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Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
by SteelerDayTrader
Yesterday was fun but ultimately probably not the best big picture outcome.

The Steelers REALLY need to draft Will Anderson and that likely means a top 3 pick if not number 1 outright

Additionally we haven’t seen much evidence that Kenneth has a quality NFL arm or NFL level accuracy. Yes it’s a little early but we have seen 8 quarters of sub par performance in those areas

Trubisky for his part played great yesterday however leopard, spots, etc etc

This team doesn’t have QB capable of winning a Lombardi so let’s lose on pace to add some real impact talent

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:13 pm
by K_C_
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
Yesterday was fun but ultimately probably not the best big picture outcome.

The Steelers REALLY need to draft Will Anderson and that likely means a top 3 pick if not number 1 outright

Additionally we haven’t seen much evidence that Kenneth has a quality NFL arm or NFL level accuracy. Yes it’s a little early but we have seen 8 quarters of sub par performance in those areas

Trubisky for his part played great yesterday however leopard, spots, etc etc

This team doesn’t have QB capable of winning a Lombardi so let’s lose on pace to add some real impact talent
Get used to Kenneth. He's gonna be around awhile big boy.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:16 pm
by SteelerDayTrader
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:13 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
Yesterday was fun but ultimately probably not the best big picture outcome.

The Steelers REALLY need to draft Will Anderson and that likely means a top 3 pick if not number 1 outright

Additionally we haven’t seen much evidence that Kenneth has a quality NFL arm or NFL level accuracy. Yes it’s a little early but we have seen 8 quarters of sub par performance in those areas

Trubisky for his part played great yesterday however leopard, spots, etc etc

This team doesn’t have QB capable of winning a Lombardi so let’s lose on pace to add some real impact talent
Get used to Kenneth. He's gonna be around awhile big boy.
Probably. But that doesn’t mean he looks like a competitive pro QB.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:24 pm
by K_C_
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:16 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:13 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
Yesterday was fun but ultimately probably not the best big picture outcome.

The Steelers REALLY need to draft Will Anderson and that likely means a top 3 pick if not number 1 outright

Additionally we haven’t seen much evidence that Kenneth has a quality NFL arm or NFL level accuracy. Yes it’s a little early but we have seen 8 quarters of sub par performance in those areas

Trubisky for his part played great yesterday however leopard, spots, etc etc

This team doesn’t have QB capable of winning a Lombardi so let’s lose on pace to add some real impact talent
Get used to Kenneth. He's gonna be around awhile big boy.
Probably. But that doesn’t mean he looks like a competitive pro QB.
Sure he does. That first drive yesterday was a thing of beauty. Perfection. He did lots of excellent things against the Jets too and his receivers were a joke vs. Buffalo or that's actually a competitive game.

Is he going to be inconsistent and struggle? Sure. He's a rookie. That's what they do.

Get used to it and get used to him. This is a rebuild.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:36 pm
by kramer
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
Yesterday was fun but ultimately probably not the best big picture outcome.

The Steelers REALLY need to draft Will Anderson and that likely means a top 3 pick if not number 1 outright

Additionally we haven’t seen much evidence that Kenneth has a quality NFL arm or NFL level accuracy. Yes it’s a little early but we have seen 8 quarters of sub par performance in those areas

Trubisky for his part played great yesterday however leopard, spots, etc etc

This team doesn’t have QB capable of winning a Lombardi so let’s lose on pace to add some real impact talent
Why do you call him “Kenneth”? Do you secretly want him to fuck you?

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:38 pm
by kramer
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:24 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:16 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:13 pm


Get used to Kenneth. He's gonna be around awhile big boy.
Probably. But that doesn’t mean he looks like a competitive pro QB.
Sure he does. That first drive yesterday was a thing of beauty. Perfection. He did lots of excellent things against the Jets too and his receivers were a joke vs. Buffalo or that's actually a competitive game.

Is he going to be inconsistent and struggle? Sure. He's a rookie. That's what they do.

Get used to it and get used to him. This is a rebuild.
You have to be honest and admit that outside of the first drive the Pickett-led offensive did nothing.

Whether that’s Canada’s inability to adjust or pickets inability to be dynamic is it’s own question

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:58 pm
by StillerInCT
My fear with Pickett is that the current staff won't be able to develop him the way Whiz/Arians did for Ben. He really is starting his career off in a disadvantaged position.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:04 pm
by StillerInCT
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
Yes it’s a little early but
Gee. Ya think?

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:07 pm
by Professor Half Wit
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:36 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
Yesterday was fun but ultimately probably not the best big picture outcome.

The Steelers REALLY need to draft Will Anderson and that likely means a top 3 pick if not number 1 outright

Additionally we haven’t seen much evidence that Kenneth has a quality NFL arm or NFL level accuracy. Yes it’s a little early but we have seen 8 quarters of sub par performance in those areas

Trubisky for his part played great yesterday however leopard, spots, etc etc

This team doesn’t have QB capable of winning a Lombardi so let’s lose on pace to add some real impact talent
Why do you call him “Kenneth”? Do you secretly want him to fuck you?
God, who doesn’t, though!

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:25 pm
by SteelerDayTrader
StillerInCT wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:58 pm
My fear with Pickett is that the current staff won't be able to develop him the way Whiz/Arians did for Ben. He really is starting his career off in a disadvantaged position.
Lolololz

Gee…..ya think ??

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:27 pm
by StillerInCT
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:25 pm
StillerInCT wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:58 pm
My fear with Pickett is that the current staff won't be able to develop him the way Whiz/Arians did for Ben. He really is starting his career off in a disadvantaged position.
Lolololz

Gee…..ya think ??
I do

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:41 pm
by K_C_
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:38 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:24 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:16 pm


Probably. But that doesn’t mean he looks like a competitive pro QB.
Sure he does. That first drive yesterday was a thing of beauty. Perfection. He did lots of excellent things against the Jets too and his receivers were a joke vs. Buffalo or that's actually a competitive game.

Is he going to be inconsistent and struggle? Sure. He's a rookie. That's what they do.

Get used to it and get used to him. This is a rebuild.
You have to be honest and admit that outside of the first drive the Pickett-led offensive did nothing.

Whether that’s Canada’s inability to adjust or pickets inability to be dynamic is it’s own question
Yep, they did absolutely nothing after that first drive and I thought it was a combination of Pickett making poor decisions along with an awful o-line, zero running game and horrific play calling.

That’s going to happen with a young QB. Not anything I’m at all worried about.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:16 pm
by steelclan
We have no idea how good or bad KP will be. I am leaning on he won't pan out but right now making long term judgments: foolish. Canada's offense is so predictable and rigid it is frightening. The oline is still a work in progress. The starting RB lacks explosion and simply cannot make something out of nothing.

If PS do end up in top 5 of the draft, what position are they looking at and does it match the draft spot.

Can they trade Claypool and get a 3rd or even a 2nd from a desperate team, for him?

Best case would be to be in top 5 in what looks like a good QB class and have a QB needy team sell the farm to move up for the QB they want.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:25 pm
by o'donnell
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
Yesterday was fun but ultimately probably not the best big picture outcome.

The Steelers REALLY need to draft Will Anderson and that likely means a top 3 pick if not number 1 outright

Additionally we haven’t seen much evidence that Kenneth has a quality NFL arm or NFL level accuracy. Yes it’s a little early but we have seen 8 quarters of sub par performance in those areas

Trubisky for his part played great yesterday however leopard, spots, etc etc

This team doesn’t have QB capable of winning a Lombardi so let’s lose on pace to add some real impact talent
Dude, we need you to charge up that wheelchair of yours, get down to the south side, and tell these QB's how they can improve. Work with them a little. Do it for the Burgh man!

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:36 pm
by anpsteel
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:41 pm
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:38 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:24 pm


Sure he does. That first drive yesterday was a thing of beauty. Perfection. He did lots of excellent things against the Jets too and his receivers were a joke vs. Buffalo or that's actually a competitive game.

Is he going to be inconsistent and struggle? Sure. He's a rookie. That's what they do.

Get used to it and get used to him. This is a rebuild.
You have to be honest and admit that outside of the first drive the Pickett-led offensive did nothing.

Whether that’s Canada’s inability to adjust or pickets inability to be dynamic is it’s own question
Yep, they did absolutely nothing after that first drive and I thought it was a combination of Pickett making poor decisions along with an awful o-line, zero running game and horrific play calling.

That’s going to happen with a young QB. Not anything I’m at all worried about.
I really like the HB Toss, to a slow and indecisive RB.

That was brilliant

I hope someone throat punches Canada

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:16 pm
by ScrantonSteel
I'm not ready to give up on this season yet to look at the draft next year.... I'm happy with the win and hoping we can play even better next week and win at Miami. Then we can focus on beating the Eagles and sitting at 4-4 at the bye. Teams grow throughout the season... the S.B. winner in February isn't usually the best team in the league in mid October. Besides, who knows how a college player will be come the NFL... look at all the Tank for Tua talk a few years ago... 1. He's not the savior the Dolphins thought... 2. He's one more concussion this year away from being out of football.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:18 pm
by SteelerDayTrader
steelclan wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:16 pm
We have no idea how good or bad KP will be.
False

We have a fairly consistent body of work that is below par in addition to the fact it is absent anything spectacular

That to me says occasional outlier performance is the best we can hope for

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:25 pm
by zeke5123
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:24 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:16 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:13 pm


Get used to Kenneth. He's gonna be around awhile big boy.
Probably. But that doesn’t mean he looks like a competitive pro QB.
Sure he does. That first drive yesterday was a thing of beauty. Perfection. He did lots of excellent things against the Jets too and his receivers were a joke vs. Buffalo or that's actually a competitive game.

Is he going to be inconsistent and struggle? Sure. He's a rookie. That's what they do.

Get used to it and get used to him. This is a rebuild.
He didn't really do much against the Jets. Had one good throw.

As for the first drive yesterday, the biggest play of that drive was Devin White pushing KP after he threw the ball. Otherwise, it ends in a very long FG attempt. KP was solid on it, but it wasn't a "thing of beauty." It was a solid NFL drive. This is your problem. You can't contextualize anything. It is either the best thing ever or the worst thing.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:27 pm
by Jizz Mop
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:36 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
Yesterday was fun but ultimately probably not the best big picture outcome.

The Steelers REALLY need to draft Will Anderson and that likely means a top 3 pick if not number 1 outright

Additionally we haven’t seen much evidence that Kenneth has a quality NFL arm or NFL level accuracy. Yes it’s a little early but we have seen 8 quarters of sub par performance in those areas

Trubisky for his part played great yesterday however leopard, spots, etc etc

This team doesn’t have QB capable of winning a Lombardi so let’s lose on pace to add some real impact talent
Why do you call him “Kenneth”? Do you secretly want him to fuck you?
Somehow he thinks it makes Kenny less of a player.

Weird

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:38 pm
by Professor Half Wit
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:27 pm
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:36 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
Yesterday was fun but ultimately probably not the best big picture outcome.

The Steelers REALLY need to draft Will Anderson and that likely means a top 3 pick if not number 1 outright

Additionally we haven’t seen much evidence that Kenneth has a quality NFL arm or NFL level accuracy. Yes it’s a little early but we have seen 8 quarters of sub par performance in those areas

Trubisky for his part played great yesterday however leopard, spots, etc etc

This team doesn’t have QB capable of winning a Lombardi so let’s lose on pace to add some real impact talent
Why do you call him “Kenneth”? Do you secretly want him to fuck you?
Somehow he thinks it makes Kenny less of a player.

Weird
Why no Trent Jordan posts, then?

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:40 pm
by K_C_
zeke5123 wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:25 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:24 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:16 pm


Probably. But that doesn’t mean he looks like a competitive pro QB.
Sure he does. That first drive yesterday was a thing of beauty. Perfection. He did lots of excellent things against the Jets too and his receivers were a joke vs. Buffalo or that's actually a competitive game.

Is he going to be inconsistent and struggle? Sure. He's a rookie. That's what they do.

Get used to it and get used to him. This is a rebuild.
He didn't really do much against the Jets. Had one good throw.

As for the first drive yesterday, the biggest play of that drive was Devin White pushing KP after he threw the ball. Otherwise, it ends in a very long FG attempt. KP was solid on it, but it wasn't a "thing of beauty." It was a solid NFL drive. This is your problem. You can't contextualize anything. It is either the best thing ever or the worst thing.
:lol:

That was our first opening drive TD since Rudolph did it against the Lions last season. It was an impressive drive. You left out Kenny's 10 yard scramble (after Dotson's false start) that put the Steelers in a position to go for it on 4th down, which Warren converted. He hit Claypool for 14 earlier in the drive and was on the money. Was it Ben's drive that won a Super Bowl? No. Do I give a flying fuck that there was a roughing the passer penalty that helped? No because those are a thing. At least these refs actually called roughing after Pickett got bent over last week in Buffalo and screwed royally on at least 2 late hits.

Kenny sealing the deal after that is all that matters.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:42 pm
by K_C_
anpsteel wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:36 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:41 pm
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:38 pm


You have to be honest and admit that outside of the first drive the Pickett-led offensive did nothing.

Whether that’s Canada’s inability to adjust or pickets inability to be dynamic is it’s own question
Yep, they did absolutely nothing after that first drive and I thought it was a combination of Pickett making poor decisions along with an awful o-line, zero running game and horrific play calling.

That’s going to happen with a young QB. Not anything I’m at all worried about.
I really like the HB Toss, to a slow and indecisive RB.

That was brilliant

I hope someone throat punches Canada
Jesus H Christ that play pissed me off.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:43 pm
by kramer
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:27 pm
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:36 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:11 pm
Yesterday was fun but ultimately probably not the best big picture outcome.

The Steelers REALLY need to draft Will Anderson and that likely means a top 3 pick if not number 1 outright

Additionally we haven’t seen much evidence that Kenneth has a quality NFL arm or NFL level accuracy. Yes it’s a little early but we have seen 8 quarters of sub par performance in those areas

Trubisky for his part played great yesterday however leopard, spots, etc etc

This team doesn’t have QB capable of winning a Lombardi so let’s lose on pace to add some real impact talent
Why do you call him “Kenneth”? Do you secretly want him to fuck you?
Somehow he thinks it makes Kenny less of a player.

Weird
Yeah, I don’t get it. Love the ignore feature on here. He was raising my blood pressure way too much

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:48 pm
by Professor Half Wit
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:42 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:36 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:41 pm


Yep, they did absolutely nothing after that first drive and I thought it was a combination of Pickett making poor decisions along with an awful o-line, zero running game and horrific play calling.

That’s going to happen with a young QB. Not anything I’m at all worried about.
I really like the HB Toss, to a slow and indecisive RB.

That was brilliant

I hope someone throat punches Canada
Jesus H Christ that play pissed me off.
KC, you weren't the one tweeting death threats at Dotson after he tweeted out an apology for his play were you?

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:51 pm
by K_C_
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:48 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:42 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:36 pm


I really like the HB Toss, to a slow and indecisive RB.

That was brilliant

I hope someone throat punches Canada
Jesus H Christ that play pissed me off.
KC, you weren't the one tweeting death threats at Dotson after he tweeted out an apology for his play were you?
No, I'm banned for life from Twitter for Trump hatred.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:09 pm
by o'donnell
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:43 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:27 pm
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:36 pm


Why do you call him “Kenneth”? Do you secretly want him to fuck you?
Somehow he thinks it makes Kenny less of a player.

Weird
Yeah, I don’t get it. Love the ignore feature on here. He was raising my blood pressure way too much
I find the wheelchair bound basement boy hilarious myself.

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:13 pm
by Jobu
Professor Half Wit wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:38 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:27 pm
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:36 pm


Why do you call him “Kenneth”? Do you secretly want him to fuck you?
Somehow he thinks it makes Kenny less of a player.

Weird
Why no Trent Jordan posts, then?
Because “Low” Watt is a better jab?

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:20 pm
by K_C_
Ben2Ken wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:09 pm
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:43 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:27 pm


Somehow he thinks it makes Kenny less of a player.

Weird
Yeah, I don’t get it. Love the ignore feature on here. He was raising my blood pressure way too much
I find the wheelchair bound basement boy hilarious myself.
:lol:

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:15 pm
by kramer
Ben2Ken wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:09 pm
kramer wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:43 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:27 pm


Somehow he thinks it makes Kenny less of a player.

Weird
Yeah, I don’t get it. Love the ignore feature on here. He was raising my blood pressure way too much
I find the wheelchair bound basement boy hilarious myself.
As do I. You have good taste

Re: Rooting for the draft……

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:43 pm
by bradshaw2ben
steelclan wrote:
Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:16 pm
We have no idea how good or bad KP will be. I am leaning on he won't pan out but right now making long term judgments: foolish. Canada's offense is so predictable and rigid it is frightening. The oline is still a work in progress. The starting RB lacks explosion and simply cannot make something out of nothing.

If PS do end up in top 5 of the draft, what position are they looking at and does it match the draft spot.

Can they trade Claypool and get a 3rd or even a 2nd from a desperate team, for him?

Best case would be to be in top 5 in what looks like a good QB class and have a QB needy team sell the farm to move up for the QB they want.
This is exactly how the teams that didn't draft Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes because they had a serviceable QB thought before the draft.