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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:38 pm

The guy has some issues. I’ve said for a while if he was fired I wouldn’t be bothered with it

- He is often way too conservative
- I question personnel moves and roster make up often
- He is slow to change course
- Overall his record is mediocre
- I can’t say he’s been great assembling a staff

He has been to 2 Super Bowls and is a Lombardi winner.

There are many HCs much worse. Most in fact.


All of that said, fire away with criticism if you wish. Make all the wild ass unfounded assertions you care to. Let’s all try to keep it to football criticisms and concerns. No real need for invective far beyond that is there ??

The world will be a much better place if we all leave bigotry and hatred behind one day

Do you really want to be known as a scum bag who attacks other posters and NFL professionals way beyond reason ??

There are some posters here who literally haven’t ever been right about anything but they work hard to maintain their rep here as a degenerate scum bag

Is that really for you ?? Is that what you have to offer here ?? Do you have any worthwhile football discussion in you ??

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Post by Quixotic » Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:19 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:38 pm
There are many HCs much worse.
I’ve been running a business for more than 25 years. I have NEVER hired someone because they were “not as bad as some” other candidates. And I have never asked a prospective client to hire us because, “there are much worse” companies out there.

That there are “much worse” coaches out there doesn’t justify keeping one who consistently under performs. Accepting this excuse has put the Steelers where they are.

Maybe there are much worse coaches out there. Maybe not. But even if we accept that hypothesis, why would we not be looking for the “much better” coaches out there, rather than excusing our losing with the idea that things could be “much worse?”

This is not the WHATEVER IT TAKES Steeler mindset with which I grew up.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:10 pm

You hire best candidate

Regardless of skin color

Tomlin’s act is old and tired now

Time to move on

Give Flores a shot….despite the defense looking like trash

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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:11 pm

What’s your excuse for the people who wanted Cowher to be fired?

Were they racist scumbags also?

Suck a dick

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:28 pm

Quixotic wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:19 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:38 pm
There are many HCs much worse.
I’ve been running a business for more than 25 years. I have NEVER hired someone because they were “not as bad as some” other candidates. And I have never asked a prospective client to hire us because, “there are much worse” companies out there.

That there are “much worse” coaches out there doesn’t justify keeping one who consistently under performs. Accepting this excuse has put the Steelers where they are.

Maybe there are much worse coaches out there. Maybe not. But even if we accept that hypothesis, why would we not be looking for the “much better” coaches out there, rather than excusing our losing with the idea that things could be “much worse?”

This is not the WHATEVER IT TAKES Steeler mindset with which I grew up.
Do you read much ??

I never said not to strive for better

But the point of the post was in fact Tomlin is often made out to be some kind of horrible abberation here and that simply isn’t true
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:30 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:10 pm
You hire best candidate

Regardless of skin color

Tomlin’s act is old and tired now

Time to move on

Give Flores a shot….despite the defense looking like trash
You are one of the people here who never post anything regarding quality.

I hope you enjoy being a scum bag

It’s who you are

Obviously
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:31 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:11 pm
What’s your excuse for the people who wanted Cowher to be fired?

Were they racist scumbags also?

Suck a dick
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Post by Baltostiller » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:56 pm

I posted this last year I think but Super Bowl winning coaches, since 2000, have been with their teams for under 8 years (outside of Cowher's Ben miracle and Belicheat). Coaches like Reid have had to relocate to win it all. Tomlin's bullshit schtick is already old and he needs to move on.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:00 pm

Baltostiller wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:56 pm
I posted this last year I think but Super Bowl winning coaches, since 2000, have been with their teams for under 8 years (outside of Cowher's Ben miracle and Belicheat). Coaches like Reid have had to relocate to win it all. Tomlin's bullshit schtick is already old and he needs to move on.
I think there is some wisdom to the idea of a HC getting stale after a certain point

One thing I think doesn’t get illuminated enough is I really believe Rooney hired Tomlin as CEO more than anything else

I think many posters here don’t have a clue what that means
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Post by StillerInCT » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:11 pm

We've won 3 playoff games since 2011. I realize that's racist but whatever.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:29 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:30 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:10 pm
You hire best candidate

Regardless of skin color

Tomlin’s act is old and tired now

Time to move on

Give Flores a shot….despite the defense looking like trash
You are one of the people here who never post anything regarding quality.

I hope you enjoy being a scum bag

It’s who you are

Obviously
This really hurts my feelings…..knowing that my posts are being judged by the great troll STD, and that you think my posts don’t add anything in terms of quality.

This will keep me up tonight.

Very hurtful words

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Post by Quixotic » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:35 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:28 pm
Quixotic wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:19 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:38 pm
There are many HCs much worse.
I’ve been running a business for more than 25 years. I have NEVER hired someone because they were “not as bad as some” other candidates. And I have never asked a prospective client to hire us because, “there are much worse” companies out there.

That there are “much worse” coaches out there doesn’t justify keeping one who consistently under performs. Accepting this excuse has put the Steelers where they are.

Maybe there are much worse coaches out there. Maybe not. But even if we accept that hypothesis, why would we not be looking for the “much better” coaches out there, rather than excusing our losing with the idea that things could be “much worse?”

This is not the WHATEVER IT TAKES Steeler mindset with which I grew up.
Do you read much ??

I never said not to strive for better

But the point of the post was in fact Tomlin is often made out to be some kind of horrible abberation here and that simply isn’t true
English is a language you understand, right?

I merely said that mediocrity is not a virtue, and that this generation of the Steelers, exemplified by Tomlin, has attempted to frame it as such. I realize this concept is a little subtle for a blunt instrument like yourself. But stretch. I think maybe you can get it.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:37 pm

StillerInCT wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:11 pm
We've won 3 playoff games since 2011. I realize that's racist but whatever.
I know you’re being facetious but personally, I’m am so tired of race and racism being thrown around.

Here, on the news, from idiot college students….it’s just never ending.

Morgan Freeman was so spot on with this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:40 pm

Quixotic wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:35 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:28 pm
Quixotic wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:19 pm


I’ve been running a business for more than 25 years. I have NEVER hired someone because they were “not as bad as some” other candidates. And I have never asked a prospective client to hire us because, “there are much worse” companies out there.

That there are “much worse” coaches out there doesn’t justify keeping one who consistently under performs. Accepting this excuse has put the Steelers where they are.

Maybe there are much worse coaches out there. Maybe not. But even if we accept that hypothesis, why would we not be looking for the “much better” coaches out there, rather than excusing our losing with the idea that things could be “much worse?”

This is not the WHATEVER IT TAKES Steeler mindset with which I grew up.
Do you read much ??

I never said not to strive for better

But the point of the post was in fact Tomlin is often made out to be some kind of horrible abberation here and that simply isn’t true
English is a language you understand, right?

I merely said that mediocrity is not a virtue, and that this generation of the Steelers, exemplified by Tomlin, has attempted to frame it as such. I realize this concept is a little subtle for a blunt instrument like yourself. But stretch. I think maybe you can get it.
Dear Jackass

Try to understand. You misinterpreted the entire post and went off on a tangent

That in itself is no big deal but you had to up the ante making an issue of something I never said

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Post by Ice » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:41 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:38 pm
The guy has some issues. I’ve said for a while if he was fired I wouldn’t be bothered with it

- He is often way too conservative
- I question personnel moves and roster make up often
- He is slow to change course
- Overall his record is mediocre
- I can’t say he’s been great assembling a staff

He has been to 2 Super Bowls and is a Lombardi winner.

There are many HCs much worse. Most in fact.


All of that said, fire away with criticism if you wish. Make all the wild ass unfounded assertions you care to. Let’s all try to keep it to football criticisms and concerns. No real need for invective far beyond that is there ??

The world will be a much better place if we all leave bigotry and hatred behind one day

Do you really want to be known as a scum bag who attacks other posters and NFL professionals way beyond reason ??

There are some posters here who literally haven’t ever been right about anything but they work hard to maintain their rep here as a degenerate scum bag

Is that really for you ?? Is that what you have to offer here ?? Do you have any worthwhile football discussion in you ??

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:41 pm

StillerInCT wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:11 pm
We've won 3 playoff games since 2011. I realize that's racist but whatever.
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Post by langer » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:44 pm

Coach Mike sees himself in Najee, if you will, and so forth.

I do as well, they both aren't good at football, are over-rated media creations and are slow as shit.
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:46 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:10 pm


This really hurts my feelings…..knowing that my posts are being judged by the great troll STD, and that you think my posts don’t add anything in terms of quality.

This will keep me up tonight.

Very hurtful words

:roll:
STD begins thread...
"Do you really want to attack another poster beyond reason?"

Then says in the same thread....
"You're one of those posters who is a fraud and is total trash."

I mean, if your aim is to ask for more civility, this is an odd way of going about it.

If your aim is to say that anyone who disagrees with me on anything is trash, this all seems appropriate.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:53 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:46 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:10 pm


This really hurts my feelings…..knowing that my posts are being judged by the great troll STD, and that you think my posts don’t add anything in terms of quality.

This will keep me up tonight.

Very hurtful words

:roll:
STD begins thread...
"Do you really want to attack another poster beyond reason?"

Then says in the same thread....
"You're one of those posters who is a fraud and is total trash."

I mean, if your aim is to ask for more civility, this is an odd way of going about it.

If your aim is to say that anyone who disagrees with me on anything is trash, this all seems appropriate.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:08 pm

langer wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:44 pm
Coach Mike sees himself in Najee, if you will, and so forth.

I do as well, they both aren't good at football, are over-rated media creations and are slow as shit.
Najee is either playing hurt, or was simply a beneficiary of playing in a loaded Bama offense and looked better than he actually was. I don’t know what to think, but he looks horrible.

If he’s not hurt, he sucks.

Warren playing behind the same mediocre line displays better vision, burst and speed. And more importantly, better YPC numbers.

Tomlin?

He’s a dunce. I won’t be happy till he is gone. Hope that happens in my lifetime.

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Post by langer » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:32 pm

Coach Mike's position is more important than football. That's why he's there, and that's why he sees himself there, as well as seeing himself in Najee, it's bigger than football.

LOL
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Post by StillerInCT » Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:31 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:41 pm
StillerInCT wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:11 pm
We've won 3 playoff games since 2011. I realize that's racist but whatever.
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Post by StillerInCT » Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:35 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:37 pm
StillerInCT wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:11 pm
We've won 3 playoff games since 2011. I realize that's racist but whatever.
I know you’re being facetious but personally, I’m am so tired of race and racism being thrown around.

Here, on the news, from idiot college students….it’s just never ending.

Morgan Freeman was so spot on with this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s
It's sad. I grew up to appreciate everybody. I just love how STD has to even bring it up that we should avoid it. Historically it's his way to invalidate any opinion that differs from his on Tomlin. Outside of one person on this board there really isn't much (or any racism). Other than RON (formerly a member) and Lynch/B2K we're pretty civilized here. I can't recall anybody but those two ever bringing it up in arguments about Tomlin.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:50 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:38 pm
The guy has some issues. I’ve said for a while if he was fired I wouldn’t be bothered with it

- He is often way too conservative
- I question personnel moves and roster make up often
- He is slow to change course
- Overall his record is mediocre
- I can’t say he’s been great assembling a staff

He has been to 2 Super Bowls and is a Lombardi winner.

There are many HCs much worse. Most in fact.


All of that said, fire away with criticism if you wish. Make all the wild ass unfounded assertions you care to. Let’s all try to keep it to football criticisms and concerns. No real need for invective far beyond that is there ??

The world will be a much better place if we all leave bigotry and hatred behind one day

Do you really want to be known as a scum bag who attacks other posters and NFL professionals way beyond reason ??

There are some posters here who literally haven’t ever been right about anything but they work hard to maintain their rep here as a degenerate scum bag

Is that really for you ?? Is that what you have to offer here ?? Do you have any worthwhile football discussion in you ??

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Accurate assessment. Probably in HOF too.

Treating coaches as if they have a shelf life is probably a statistically sound strategy.

Tomlin is past his shelf life. And he probably values work life balance more than other coaches that are past their shelf life, but do not have a proper work life balance.

Those above him are or have failed him too, or are complicit in his lieutenant hiring/firing. It was an organizational effort to get where we are!

I do not lose my marbles if he stays or goes. Canada I lose my marbles over though.

When they start making surprising moves and not moves put forth by fans, we will know we are back on track.

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Post by 955876 » Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:56 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:08 pm
langer wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:44 pm
Coach Mike sees himself in Najee, if you will, and so forth.

I do as well, they both aren't good at football, are over-rated media creations and are slow as shit.
Najee is either playing hurt, or was simply a beneficiary of playing in a loaded Bama offense and looked better than he actually was. I don’t know what to think, but he looks horrible.

If he’s not hurt, he sucks.

Warren playing behind the same mediocre line displays better vision, burst and speed. And more importantly, better YPC numbers.

Tomlin?

He’s a dunce. I won’t be happy till he is gone. Hope that happens in my lifetime.
IF Najee has been playing hurt then his awful production is on Jibbs and not Harris.

Zero reason to run an unhealthy back out there when you have a healthy Warren and Snell.

It would be beyond idiotic to run an injured player out there.

So maybe he is injured as Jibbs is in fact a stupid as fuck. However, even I have to question Jibbs being THAT stupid.

Would not surprise me if he is though. Not in the least.

I’m sure after the season is over we will hear how poor Najee was injured all year and that’s why he was among the league’s worst RBs.

And yet, the Pittsburgh media won’t dare question why Jibbs kept running him out there when he had healthy (and in the case of Warren) better backs available on the bench.

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Post by Jobu » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:28 pm

955876 wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:56 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:08 pm
langer wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:44 pm
Coach Mike sees himself in Najee, if you will, and so forth.

I do as well, they both aren't good at football, are over-rated media creations and are slow as shit.
Najee is either playing hurt, or was simply a beneficiary of playing in a loaded Bama offense and looked better than he actually was. I don’t know what to think, but he looks horrible.

If he’s not hurt, he sucks.

Warren playing behind the same mediocre line displays better vision, burst and speed. And more importantly, better YPC numbers.

Tomlin?

He’s a dunce. I won’t be happy till he is gone. Hope that happens in my lifetime.
IF Najee has been playing hurt then his awful production is on Jibbs and not Harris.

Zero reason to run an unhealthy back out there when you have a healthy Warren and Snell.

It would be beyond idiotic to run an injured player out there.

So maybe he is injured as Jibbs is in fact a stupid as fuck. However, even I have to question Jibbs being THAT stupid.

Would not surprise me if he is though. Not in the least.

I’m sure after the season is over we will hear how poor Najee was injured all year and that’s why he was among the league’s worst RBs.

And yet, the Pittsburgh media won’t dare question why Jibbs kept running him out there when he had healthy (and in the case of Warren) better backs available on the bench.
Who’s to say, but that foot looked to be fine when attempted to hurdle the DB.

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Post by 955876 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:59 am

Who’s to say, but that foot looked to be fine when attempted to hurdle the DB.
It certainly did.

Which means (unfortunately) Jibbs is off the hook for playing an injured back and Najee is most likely going to end up a bust.

Jibbs is however officially on the hook for playing the inferior player.

I’d bet Warren would produce a 100 yard game if given starter carries.

We do what we do though.

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Post by langer » Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:15 pm

Who is the better hurdler, Warren or Najee?

It's an important feature for a factor back.
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Post by gojira5150 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:44 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:37 pm
StillerInCT wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:11 pm
We've won 3 playoff games since 2011. I realize that's racist but whatever.
I know you’re being facetious but personally, I’m am so tired of race and racism being thrown around.

Here, on the news, from idiot college students….it’s just never ending.

Morgan Freeman was so spot on with this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s
He's 100% correct.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:00 pm

StillerInCT wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:35 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:37 pm
StillerInCT wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:11 pm
We've won 3 playoff games since 2011. I realize that's racist but whatever.
I know you’re being facetious but personally, I’m am so tired of race and racism being thrown around.

Here, on the news, from idiot college students….it’s just never ending.

Morgan Freeman was so spot on with this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s
It's sad. I grew up to appreciate everybody. I just love how STD has to even bring it up that we should avoid it. Historically it's his way to invalidate any opinion that differs from his on Tomlin. Outside of one person on this board there really isn't much (or any racism). Other than RON (formerly a member) and Lynch/B2K we're pretty civilized here. I can't recall anybody but those two ever bringing it up in arguments about Tomlin.
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