Pickett’s First 4th Quarter Comeback Victory!

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Pickett’s First 4th Quarter Comeback Victory!

Post by LakecrestSteeler » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:13 am

That was a bonafide 4th quarter comeback, capped with a cementing 2 point conversion!

1 down 43 to go!

Ben had 5 his rookie year!



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Post by K_C_ » Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:13 pm

I wish Kenny had 9 Pro Bowlers to help him out.

We might have 1 this season.

Maybe 1.

....and we actually deserve to have ZERO.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:04 pm

If they can add some talent to the Oline next year I like Kenny’s outlook in year 2

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Post by franco32 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:09 pm

Yeah, he did that in spite of going into turtle mode on the first two series of the 2nd half, a few jail breaks up front, numerous drops from his WRs, and stellar playcalls like shovels to Watt and screens to Gentry. Not bad.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:23 pm

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If they can add some talent to the Oline next year I like Kenny’s outlook in year 2
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Post by Rod & Wire Mill » Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:25 pm

franco32 wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:09 pm
Yeah, he did that in spite of going into turtle mode on the first two series of the 2nd half, a few jail breaks up front, numerous drops from his WRs, and stellar playcalls like shovels to Watt and screens to Gentry. Not bad.
That screen pass call was hall of shame worthy. What exactly was supposed to happen there? I don’t understand why they have to waste plays or even whole series

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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:43 pm

Rod & Wire Mill wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:25 pm
franco32 wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:09 pm
Yeah, he did that in spite of going into turtle mode on the first two series of the 2nd half, a few jail breaks up front, numerous drops from his WRs, and stellar playcalls like shovels to Watt and screens to Gentry. Not bad.
That screen pass call was hall of shame worthy. What exactly was supposed to happen there? I don’t understand why they have to waste plays or even whole series
Watching Kurt Warner's video on Pickett - he talks about some of the routes/plays just not being designed to really help anything, like having a WR buzz in front of a guy and turn to the sideline to "draw" him over so the hook route opens for the TE.... but like Warner says why waste the time? Just have the WR run his route directly that way - he shows how it just takes too long to develop and lets the covering LB cover both guys in that moment where the QB needs to make a decision.

it's crap like that... stuff that might work in college... Matt Canada needs to figure out how to open up NFL defenses with guys who can move much faster and who are 10 times smarter.
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Post by RemoAZ » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:03 pm

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Yeah, he did that in spite of going into turtle mode on the first two series of the 2nd half, a few jail breaks up front, numerous drops from his WRs, and stellar playcalls like shovels to Watt and screens to Gentry. Not bad.
The Tomlin special. Start running the clock out at halftime if you have a lead. Leave the defense on the field the whole second half? We run towards those situations, now away from them!
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Post by RemoAZ » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:13 pm

https://twitter.com/ThePoniExpress/stat ... 2212167680
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Orlovsky LOVING Pickett this morning. Feels so good to have a young franchise QB.
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Post by langer » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:20 pm

Matt Canada has coordinated DJ to run sideways and backwards and clubfooted Gentry and Old Man Najee to be the primary targets on plays with three RBs sitting on their asses waiting to be unleashed.

Just a stupid team.....
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Post by 955876 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:22 pm

screens to Gentry
That play was a dud last week. So their big adjustment was to run that okay again this week except this time run it to the left side.

Not surprisingly, the play failed to do shit each time.

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Post by Ice » Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:35 pm

RemoAZ wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:13 pm
https://twitter.com/ThePoniExpress/stat ... 2212167680
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Orlovsky LOVING Pickett this morning. Feels so good to have a young franchise QB.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:05 pm

You know how everyone thinks their newborn is the cutest kid who's ever lived? I feel like I'm watching some new parents' endless slideshow.
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Post by Steel Ubaldo » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:20 pm

I think last night was a good result, I thought KP played better. He still has tons of room to improve. I think he will get better. If he can get some OL to block for him he will improve even more. He’s not Ben. He is never going to be…BUT he is not the abomination that some are making him out to be.

I still think he will turn out to be like Jimmy G. That’s not terrible.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:26 pm

Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:20 pm
I think last night was a good result, I thought KP played better. He still has tons of room to improve. I think he will get better. If he can get some OL to block for him he will improve even more. He’s not Ben. He is never going to be…BUT he is not the abomination that some are making him out to be.

I still think he will turn out to be like Jimmy G. That’s not terrible.
I was actually thinking about this last night, watching Pickett.

Jimmy G is 100% the product of the talent around him.

The 49ers have won playoff games with Jimmy G playing like absolute shit.

Pickett is going to end up being significantly better than Jimmy G. By a lot.

Is Pickett going to be Ben? Absolutely not. Pickett is not going to be a Hall of Famer, but he has the chance to be a very good QB who can compete with the big boys if we improve the o-line, get him another weapon besides George PIckens and Freiermuth (maybe Calvin Austin III can be that guy) and get the poor bastard better coaching.

But I'm not buying that Pickett is going to be Jimmy G.
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Post by SteelPro » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:31 pm

Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:20 pm
I think last night was a good result, I thought KP played better. He still has tons of room to improve. I think he will get better. If he can get some OL to block for him he will improve even more. He’s not Ben. He is never going to be…BUT he is not the abomination that some are making him out to be.

I still think he will turn out to be like Jimmy G. That’s not terrible.
So the question is.. is that good enough? Can you ultimately win a super bowl with that? I'll say maybe you can while the salary is low enough that you can build greatest into your roster in other areas.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:31 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:05 pm
You know how everyone thinks their newborn is the cutest kid who's ever lived? I feel like I'm watching some new parents' endless slideshow.
There’s a few of us trying to counter the non-stop negativity towards Pickett

Call us rebels

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:44 pm

SteelPro wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:31 pm
Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:20 pm
I think last night was a good result, I thought KP played better. He still has tons of room to improve. I think he will get better. If he can get some OL to block for him he will improve even more. He’s not Ben. He is never going to be…BUT he is not the abomination that some are making him out to be.

I still think he will turn out to be like Jimmy G. That’s not terrible.
So the question is.. is that good enough? Can you ultimately win a super bowl with that? I'll say maybe you can while the salary is low enough that you can build greatest into your roster in other areas.
Pickett's going to be a lot better than Jimmy G.

So yeah...I think it'll be good enough.
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Post by Steel Ubaldo » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:53 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:26 pm
Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:20 pm
I think last night was a good result, I thought KP played better. He still has tons of room to improve. I think he will get better. If he can get some OL to block for him he will improve even more. He’s not Ben. He is never going to be…BUT he is not the abomination that some are making him out to be.

I still think he will turn out to be like Jimmy G. That’s not terrible.
I was actually thinking about this last night, watching Pickett.

Jimmy G is 100% the product of the talent around him.

The 49ers have won playoff games with Jimmy G playing like absolute shit.

Pickett is going to end up being significantly better than Jimmy G. By a lot.

If Pickett going to be Ben? Absolutely not. Pickett is not going to be a Hall of Famer, but he has the chance to be a very good QB who can compete with the big boys if we improve the o-line, get him another weapon besides George PIckens and Freiermuth (maybe Calvin Austin III can be that guy) and get the poor bastard better coaching.

But I'm not buying that Pickett is going to be Jimmy G.
I hope you’re right. I like Pickett. He improved every year he was at Pitt. I saw most of his games he played. I think he will improve similarly with the Steelers.

If he gets a better OL and another weapon or 2, I think it will expedite his improvement. I’m not going to worry about coaching because Tomlin is going nowhere. But an innovative offensive mind would work wonders for him as well.

I’ll never understand writing him off after a few games into his rookie season. His confidence will continue to grow with more experience. There are also some more wins in his immediate future which is also going to help.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:56 pm

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Post by Pabst » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:02 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:31 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:05 pm
You know how everyone thinks their newborn is the cutest kid who's ever lived? I feel like I'm watching some new parents' endless slideshow.
There’s a few of us trying to counter the non-stop negativity towards Pickett

Call us rebels
It's a pure strawman and it's frankly pissing me off.

No one here is calling Pickett the franchise savior or getting him fitted for a HOF jacket. It's been tempered praise for a guy who looks good at times but is also going through typical rookie growing pains (with a sub-par roster). Meanwhile some posters who hated the pick from day 1 have been comparing him to Ryan Leaf before we're halfway through his rookie season.

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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:03 pm

Some needs to step in an tell tomlin to find the Best OC out there and hire him
also now that Whipple has be canned from NEB maybe bring him back as QB Coach for Kenny

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Post by Steel Ubaldo » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:08 pm

SteelPro wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:31 pm
Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:20 pm
I think last night was a good result, I thought KP played better. He still has tons of room to improve. I think he will get better. If he can get some OL to block for him he will improve even more. He’s not Ben. He is never going to be…BUT he is not the abomination that some are making him out to be.

I still think he will turn out to be like Jimmy G. That’s not terrible.
So the question is.. is that good enough? Can you ultimately win a super bowl with that? I'll say maybe you can while the salary is low enough that you can build greatest into your roster in other areas.
Maybe. I think it could be especially while he is salary controlled and get some OL help and another weapon. However, how could anyone make any kind of definitive assessment on a QB a few weeks into his career with this offensive line? There isn’t one guy on this OL that would’ve started in 2004 or 2005 for the Steelers. Not 1.

Better coaching would help too but I won’t hold my breath. Remember this is the same HC that squandered the back half of a HOF QB’s career. The same HC that hasn’t won a playoff game in years.

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Post by Jobu » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:16 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:03 pm
Some needs to step in an tell tomlin to find the Best OC out there and hire him
also now that Whipple has be canned from NEB maybe bring him back as QB Coach for Kenny
I’m not gonna hold my breath waiting for any of that to happen…
Canada will be fired in January, Sullivan will be hoisted to OC, and the assistant to the assistant ball boy will be named QB coach. The (attrition) offense will remain the same.

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Post by RemoAZ » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:18 pm

Pabst wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:02 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:31 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:05 pm
You know how everyone thinks their newborn is the cutest kid who's ever lived? I feel like I'm watching some new parents' endless slideshow.
There’s a few of us trying to counter the non-stop negativity towards Pickett

Call us rebels
It's a pure strawman and it's frankly pissing me off.

No one here is calling Pickett the franchise savior or getting him fitted for a HOF jacket. It's been tempered praise for a guy who looks good at times but is also going through typical rookie growing pains (with a sub-par roster). Meanwhile some posters who hated the pick from day 1 have been comparing him to Ryan Leaf before we're halfway through his rookie season.
Agree. It's annoying as hell coming from "fans". It's not like he's taking over the kind of team Ben did as a rookie and leading them down the drain. Not sure who the "endless slideshow" comment is towards but I see no one here calling for anything more than hopeful potential. Not sure how you can argue with that.
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Post by Steelknife » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:51 pm

Kenny Pickett is going to be fine.

Y'all are so dramatic.

This team is talent depleted everywhere on offense. Pickens is our only genuinely above average skill position player on offense. Almost none of our OL would be starting on most other teams in the league.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:54 pm

Steelknife wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:51 pm
Kenny Pickett is going to be fine.

Y'all are so dramatic.

This team is talent depleted everywhere on offense. Pickens is our only genuinely above average skill position player on offense. Almost none of our OL would be starting on most other teams in the league.
Right on every single point.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:59 pm

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You know how everyone thinks their newborn is the cutest kid who's ever lived? I feel like I'm watching some new parents' endless slideshow.
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Post by lifelongsteel » Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:09 pm

Steelknife wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:51 pm
Kenny Pickett is going to be fine.

Y'all are so dramatic.

This team is talent depleted everywhere on offense. Pickens is our only genuinely above average skill position player on offense. Almost none of our OL would be starting on most other teams in the league.
This is right (although I think you've overstated the talent deficiency just a tad)

The Anti-Kenny group is made up of the following (some fall into multiple camps):
- People that love Ben, think liking Ken means you're anti-Ben, so they're anti-Ken
- Draftniks who have ripped Kenny since long before the draft and want to be proven right
- Those who believe that you can't win without a transcendent QB like Mahomes, and believe (probably correctly) that Kenny doesn't have that type of ceiling

I'm trying to enjoy the new QB, hope for the best in regards to his development, and get the most honest assessments possible.

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Post by yygy » Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:18 pm

Pickett and I’ll add Pickens too are the only excitement coming from the Steelers that I see.

I’m to the point where if I have some thing to do, I’ll do it during the Steelers defensive series. But the rookies are must see tv
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