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Edmunds brothers

Post by Jizz Mop » Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:43 pm

Would you entertain another set of brothers?

Obviously it would require signing Terrell first

But if the money was right, would you consider plugging Tremaine in at ILB?



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Post by Orangesteel » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:28 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:43 pm
Would you entertain another set of brothers?

Obviously it would require signing Terrell first

But if the money was right, would you consider plugging Tremaine in at ILB?
I consider this a done-deal. I also think Tomlin is trying to convince William Jackson’s brother, Barry Jackson, to quit his real estate career and come play nickel for the Steelers.
“Thoughts are a waste of time for me.” - Michael Pettaway Tomlin

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Post by Jizz Mop » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:33 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:28 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:43 pm
Would you entertain another set of brothers?

Obviously it would require signing Terrell first

But if the money was right, would you consider plugging Tremaine in at ILB?
I consider this a done-deal. I also think Tomlin is trying to convince William Jackson’s brother, Barry Jackson, to quit his real estate career and come play nickel for the Steelers.
Barry walking away from his re career would be huge. Barry has the prototypical size and speed to not only sell 6,000 sf homes in the LA area, but also to blanket receivers with his 8 foot wingspan.

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Post by Orangesteel » Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:34 pm

We appreciate what Barry can bring to a hungry band of brothers. We think Barry’s best ability is his availability.
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Post by cop1211 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:26 am

He'd be my number 1 target in free agency, add him and a LT Wynn, Cam Robinson, Taylor Lewan.

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Post by Steelperch » Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:58 am

Jizz Mop wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:43 pm
Would you entertain another set of brothers?

Obviously it would require signing Terrell first

But if the money was right, would you consider plugging Tremaine in at ILB?
Tremaine is the LB version of Terrell. Bills fans bitch about him a lot. Super athletic, but it doesn’t always translate to the football field and is often out of position. That said, he’s better than the bums we have now. All comes down to the cost.

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Post by Pickett's Platoon » Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:40 pm

Robert vs Tremaine???

I'm going w/ the RON choice on this one.

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Post by DP39 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:57 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:58 am
Jizz Mop wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:43 pm
Would you entertain another set of brothers?

Obviously it would require signing Terrell first

But if the money was right, would you consider plugging Tremaine in at ILB?
Tremaine is the LB version of Terrell. Bills fans bitch about him a lot. Super athletic, but it doesn’t always translate to the football field and is often out of position. That said, he’s better than the bums we have now. All comes down to the cost.
^Exactly.

I'll also add that Matt Milano covers up a lot of Tremaine's dumbness/lack of instinct -- much like Minkah does for his brother, Terrell.

I think you let Terrell Edmunds walk and go get SEA's Ryan Neal for less money ($2.5M/per). I believe T. Austin could turn he and Minkah into every bit (and then some) of the Bill's Poyer & Hyde combo.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:29 pm

Good to great Inside linebackers and linebackers in general need to have the ability to look at formations, understand tendencies, comprehend and quickly adjust to audibles......

And then most importantly read, recognize, react and fly to the area of play and ball carrier.

To me, one of the best indicators for LBs is tackles for loss. The smarts to understand and recognize a play, head to the play and get to the ball carrier with suddenness, before the offensive blocking has time to account for you.

TFL amongst linebackers in 2022.
Some inside LBs some OLBs.

Frankie Luvu - 19
Nwoso -15
Zadaius Smith-15
Judon - 14
Parsons -14
Perryman -14
Quincy Williams-13
Mack -13
Foyesade -12
Highsmith -12
Zaire Franklin-12
Justin Jones -12
Josh Allen-12
Matt Milano -12
Dan Hunter -12
Roquan -11
Zacen Collins -11
Reddick-11
Nick Morrow -11
Floyd -10
Lavonte David -10
TJ Edward's-10
Wagner -10
Von -10
Demarco Davis -10
Tranquil-10
Eldon Robert's 10
Bolton 9
Queen 9
Gay 9
Preston Smith 9

Four more with 9

TJ watt 8 in 10 games with half an arm.
He had 21 last year. 23 the year before.

This is the range with players getting a TFL every other game....

Eight more players with 8
Handful more with 7....

Tremaine Edward's 6, six.
7 last year and 4 the year before that.

That's 17 combined in the last 3 years combined, in 43 games.

He did have 10 in 2019.
Why the decline as he has gained experience reading defenses?


James Farrior had 32 TFL in his first 3 seasons in Pittsburgh and had more than Edwards did this year in 8 of his 10 seasons with Pittsburgh.

For all the measrables Tremaine has...
6'-5" 250. Fast....
Where are the impact plays?

6.5 career sacks.

Forced fumbles and recoveries means you are also around the ball.

ZERO FORCED FUMBLES in the last 4 years.
And ZERO fumble recoveries in his career.

How about playoffs?
Has he stepped up.

6 career playoff games. Totaled One Sack. One TFL.
Let's watch #49 today and next few weeks.

I would be a hard NO on giving Edward's a huge contract.
"Tomlin has never appreciated the role of scheme and play call in the ability for player's to execute" Kodiak.
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Post by meanjustinbarlow » Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:34 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:29 pm
Good to great Inside linebackers and linebackers in general need to have the ability to look at formations, understand tendencies, comprehend and quickly adjust to audibles......

And then most importantly read, recognize, react and fly to the area of play and ball carrier.

To me, one of the best indicators for LBs is tackles for loss. The smarts to understand and recognize a play, head to the play and get to the ball carrier with suddenness, before the offensive blocking has time to account for you.

TFL amongst linebackers in 2022.
Some inside LBs some OLBs.

Frankie Luvu - 19
Nwoso -15
Zadaius Smith-15
Judon - 14
Parsons -14
Perryman -14
Quincy Williams-13
Mack -13
Foyesade -12
Highsmith -12
Zaire Franklin-12
Justin Jones -12
Josh Allen-12
Matt Milano -12
Dan Hunter -12
Roquan -11
Zacen Collins -11
Reddick-11
Nick Morrow -11
Floyd -10
Lavonte David -10
TJ Edward's-10
Wagner -10
Von -10
Demarco Davis -10
Tranquil-10
Eldon Robert's 10
Bolton 9
Queen 9
Gay 9
Preston Smith 9

Four more with 9

TJ watt 8 in 10 games with half an arm.
He had 21 last year. 23 the year before.

This is the range with players getting a TFL every other game....

Eight more players with 8
Handful more with 7....

Tremaine Edward's 6, six.
7 last year and 4 the year before that.

That's 17 combined in the last 3 years combined, in 43 games.

He did have 10 in 2019.
Why the decline as he has gained experience reading defenses?


James Farrior had 32 TFL in his first 3 seasons in Pittsburgh and had more than Edwards did this year in 8 of his 10 seasons with Pittsburgh.

For all the measrables Tremaine has...
6'-5" 250. Fast....
Where are the impact plays?

6.5 career sacks.

Forced fumbles and recoveries means you are also around the ball.

ZERO FORCED FUMBLES in the last 4 years.
And ZERO fumble recoveries in his career.

How about playoffs?
Has he stepped up.

6 career playoff games. Totaled One Sack. One TFL.
Let's watch #49 today and next few weeks.

I would be a hard NO on giving Edward's a huge contract.
I think that is a very fair stat to bring up, but he seems to have a different role in that defense. More of a coverage player than a downhill player. He definitely seems to take away the middle of the field which has been undefendable for the current Steelers teams.

Maybe this means he doesn’t command a lot of money either.

10M a year, I think its a no brainer, and Spotrac has him in that ballpark pending what happens in the playoffs.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:07 pm

Agree with that thought MJB
He drops further than Milano...

I think the Steelers need that run stuffing muscle, and missle, rather than deep ILB role..

Well..
We have neither right now...so.
Lol
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Post by Dshiner » Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:20 pm

Tremaine made more plays yesterday than Bush made this past season.

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Post by Mick » Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:53 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:07 pm
Agree with that thought MJB
He drops further than Milano...

I think the Steelers need that run stuffing muscle, and missle, rather than deep ILB role..

Well..
We have neither right now...so.
Lol
disagree.

Robinson looks like he might be a plus run stuffer. On the other side of things, as a team we were fairly good against the run, and bad against the pass, with a particular weakness against any pass targeting LBs and underneath routes. We need an ILB that can cover, desperately.

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Post by Dshiner » Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:05 pm

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Post by franco32 » Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:13 pm

Just because Bush is a horrific ILB and football player in general and our biggest draft bust that I can remember, doesn't mean Edmunds is a good investment.

I'm looking for value and production.

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Post by Dshiner » Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:13 pm

Edmunds had 4 PD yesterday. How many does Bush have as a Steeler?

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Post by Deebo » Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:25 pm

Dshiner wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:13 pm
Edmunds had 4 PD yesterday. How many does Bush have as a Steeler?
Dude is barely in the screen when a ball is thrown to his area. I'm gonna guess in 4 years, he probably has maybe 10 PD's

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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:23 pm

it all depends the deal he looking for

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Post by gpclay » Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:41 pm

Deebo wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:25 pm
Dshiner wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:13 pm
Edmunds had 4 PD yesterday. How many does Bush have as a Steeler?
Dude is barely in the screen when a ball is thrown to his area. I'm gonna guess in 4 years, he probably has maybe 10 PD's
Good guess! According to Pro Football Reference, Bush has 13 PD in 52 regular season games, and one PD in one playoff game (2019).

Edit: max in any SEASON for Bush is 4 PD…

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Post by Deebo » Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:04 pm

gpclay wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:41 pm
Deebo wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:25 pm
Dshiner wrote:
Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:13 pm
Edmunds had 4 PD yesterday. How many does Bush have as a Steeler?
Dude is barely in the screen when a ball is thrown to his area. I'm gonna guess in 4 years, he probably has maybe 10 PD's
Good guess! According to Pro Football Reference, Bush has 13 PD in 52 regular season games, and one PD in one playoff game (2019).

Edit: max in any SEASON for Bush is 4 PD…
That's utterly sad

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Post by Quixotic » Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:49 pm

DP39 wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:57 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:58 am
Jizz Mop wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:43 pm
Would you entertain another set of brothers?

Obviously it would require signing Terrell first

But if the money was right, would you consider plugging Tremaine in at ILB?
Tremaine is the LB version of Terrell. Bills fans bitch about him a lot. Super athletic, but it doesn’t always translate to the football field and is often out of position. That said, he’s better than the bums we have now. All comes down to the cost.
^Exactly.

I'll also add that Matt Milano covers up a lot of Tremaine's dumbness/lack of instinct -- much like Minkah does for his brother, Terrell.

I think you let Terrell Edmunds walk and go get SEA's Ryan Neal for less money ($2.5M/per). I believe T. Austin could turn he and Minkah into every bit (and then some) of the Bill's Poyer & Hyde combo.
Minkah and almost anyone (like not anyone on this board, but you know, anyone who could get through the combine n’et) could be formidable. Because Minkah’s biggest strength is his ability to coach up other dudes. Too bad he’s gonna be rich by the time he retires. Because he could be another Tony Dungy or something.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:16 pm

I have zero idea why anyone would think Edmunds x 2 would work in the AFC North

Count me in the hells no department

Which means it’s probably what the Steelers are gonna do
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