Edmunds brothers
Edmunds brothers
Would you entertain another set of brothers?
Obviously it would require signing Terrell first
But if the money was right, would you consider plugging Tremaine in at ILB?
Obviously it would require signing Terrell first
But if the money was right, would you consider plugging Tremaine in at ILB?
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I consider this a done-deal. I also think Tomlin is trying to convince William Jackson’s brother, Barry Jackson, to quit his real estate career and come play nickel for the Steelers.
“Thoughts are a waste of time for me.” - Michael Pettaway Tomlin
Barry walking away from his re career would be huge. Barry has the prototypical size and speed to not only sell 6,000 sf homes in the LA area, but also to blanket receivers with his 8 foot wingspan.Orangesteel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:28 pmI consider this a done-deal. I also think Tomlin is trying to convince William Jackson’s brother, Barry Jackson, to quit his real estate career and come play nickel for the Steelers.
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We appreciate what Barry can bring to a hungry band of brothers. We think Barry’s best ability is his availability.
“Thoughts are a waste of time for me.” - Michael Pettaway Tomlin
He'd be my number 1 target in free agency, add him and a LT Wynn, Cam Robinson, Taylor Lewan.
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Tremaine is the LB version of Terrell. Bills fans bitch about him a lot. Super athletic, but it doesn’t always translate to the football field and is often out of position. That said, he’s better than the bums we have now. All comes down to the cost.
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Robert vs Tremaine???
I'm going w/ the RON choice on this one.
I'm going w/ the RON choice on this one.
^Exactly.Steelperch wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:58 amTremaine is the LB version of Terrell. Bills fans bitch about him a lot. Super athletic, but it doesn’t always translate to the football field and is often out of position. That said, he’s better than the bums we have now. All comes down to the cost.
I'll also add that Matt Milano covers up a lot of Tremaine's dumbness/lack of instinct -- much like Minkah does for his brother, Terrell.
I think you let Terrell Edmunds walk and go get SEA's Ryan Neal for less money ($2.5M/per). I believe T. Austin could turn he and Minkah into every bit (and then some) of the Bill's Poyer & Hyde combo.
Good to great Inside linebackers and linebackers in general need to have the ability to look at formations, understand tendencies, comprehend and quickly adjust to audibles......
And then most importantly read, recognize, react and fly to the area of play and ball carrier.
To me, one of the best indicators for LBs is tackles for loss. The smarts to understand and recognize a play, head to the play and get to the ball carrier with suddenness, before the offensive blocking has time to account for you.
TFL amongst linebackers in 2022.
Some inside LBs some OLBs.
Frankie Luvu - 19
Nwoso -15
Zadaius Smith-15
Judon - 14
Parsons -14
Perryman -14
Quincy Williams-13
Mack -13
Foyesade -12
Highsmith -12
Zaire Franklin-12
Justin Jones -12
Josh Allen-12
Matt Milano -12
Dan Hunter -12
Roquan -11
Zacen Collins -11
Reddick-11
Nick Morrow -11
Floyd -10
Lavonte David -10
TJ Edward's-10
Wagner -10
Von -10
Demarco Davis -10
Tranquil-10
Eldon Robert's 10
Bolton 9
Queen 9
Gay 9
Preston Smith 9
Four more with 9
TJ watt 8 in 10 games with half an arm.
He had 21 last year. 23 the year before.
This is the range with players getting a TFL every other game....
Eight more players with 8
Handful more with 7....
Tremaine Edward's 6, six.
7 last year and 4 the year before that.
That's 17 combined in the last 3 years combined, in 43 games.
He did have 10 in 2019.
Why the decline as he has gained experience reading defenses?
James Farrior had 32 TFL in his first 3 seasons in Pittsburgh and had more than Edwards did this year in 8 of his 10 seasons with Pittsburgh.
For all the measrables Tremaine has...
6'-5" 250. Fast....
Where are the impact plays?
6.5 career sacks.
Forced fumbles and recoveries means you are also around the ball.
ZERO FORCED FUMBLES in the last 4 years.
And ZERO fumble recoveries in his career.
How about playoffs?
Has he stepped up.
6 career playoff games. Totaled One Sack. One TFL.
Let's watch #49 today and next few weeks.
I would be a hard NO on giving Edward's a huge contract.
And then most importantly read, recognize, react and fly to the area of play and ball carrier.
To me, one of the best indicators for LBs is tackles for loss. The smarts to understand and recognize a play, head to the play and get to the ball carrier with suddenness, before the offensive blocking has time to account for you.
TFL amongst linebackers in 2022.
Some inside LBs some OLBs.
Frankie Luvu - 19
Nwoso -15
Zadaius Smith-15
Judon - 14
Parsons -14
Perryman -14
Quincy Williams-13
Mack -13
Foyesade -12
Highsmith -12
Zaire Franklin-12
Justin Jones -12
Josh Allen-12
Matt Milano -12
Dan Hunter -12
Roquan -11
Zacen Collins -11
Reddick-11
Nick Morrow -11
Floyd -10
Lavonte David -10
TJ Edward's-10
Wagner -10
Von -10
Demarco Davis -10
Tranquil-10
Eldon Robert's 10
Bolton 9
Queen 9
Gay 9
Preston Smith 9
Four more with 9
TJ watt 8 in 10 games with half an arm.
He had 21 last year. 23 the year before.
This is the range with players getting a TFL every other game....
Eight more players with 8
Handful more with 7....
Tremaine Edward's 6, six.
7 last year and 4 the year before that.
That's 17 combined in the last 3 years combined, in 43 games.
He did have 10 in 2019.
Why the decline as he has gained experience reading defenses?
James Farrior had 32 TFL in his first 3 seasons in Pittsburgh and had more than Edwards did this year in 8 of his 10 seasons with Pittsburgh.
For all the measrables Tremaine has...
6'-5" 250. Fast....
Where are the impact plays?
6.5 career sacks.
Forced fumbles and recoveries means you are also around the ball.
ZERO FORCED FUMBLES in the last 4 years.
And ZERO fumble recoveries in his career.
How about playoffs?
Has he stepped up.
6 career playoff games. Totaled One Sack. One TFL.
Let's watch #49 today and next few weeks.
I would be a hard NO on giving Edward's a huge contract.
"Tomlin has never appreciated the role of scheme and play call in the ability for player's to execute" Kodiak.
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I think that is a very fair stat to bring up, but he seems to have a different role in that defense. More of a coverage player than a downhill player. He definitely seems to take away the middle of the field which has been undefendable for the current Steelers teams.Stosh-67 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:29 pmGood to great Inside linebackers and linebackers in general need to have the ability to look at formations, understand tendencies, comprehend and quickly adjust to audibles......
And then most importantly read, recognize, react and fly to the area of play and ball carrier.
To me, one of the best indicators for LBs is tackles for loss. The smarts to understand and recognize a play, head to the play and get to the ball carrier with suddenness, before the offensive blocking has time to account for you.
TFL amongst linebackers in 2022.
Some inside LBs some OLBs.
Frankie Luvu - 19
Nwoso -15
Zadaius Smith-15
Judon - 14
Parsons -14
Perryman -14
Quincy Williams-13
Mack -13
Foyesade -12
Highsmith -12
Zaire Franklin-12
Justin Jones -12
Josh Allen-12
Matt Milano -12
Dan Hunter -12
Roquan -11
Zacen Collins -11
Reddick-11
Nick Morrow -11
Floyd -10
Lavonte David -10
TJ Edward's-10
Wagner -10
Von -10
Demarco Davis -10
Tranquil-10
Eldon Robert's 10
Bolton 9
Queen 9
Gay 9
Preston Smith 9
Four more with 9
TJ watt 8 in 10 games with half an arm.
He had 21 last year. 23 the year before.
This is the range with players getting a TFL every other game....
Eight more players with 8
Handful more with 7....
Tremaine Edward's 6, six.
7 last year and 4 the year before that.
That's 17 combined in the last 3 years combined, in 43 games.
He did have 10 in 2019.
Why the decline as he has gained experience reading defenses?
James Farrior had 32 TFL in his first 3 seasons in Pittsburgh and had more than Edwards did this year in 8 of his 10 seasons with Pittsburgh.
For all the measrables Tremaine has...
6'-5" 250. Fast....
Where are the impact plays?
6.5 career sacks.
Forced fumbles and recoveries means you are also around the ball.
ZERO FORCED FUMBLES in the last 4 years.
And ZERO fumble recoveries in his career.
How about playoffs?
Has he stepped up.
6 career playoff games. Totaled One Sack. One TFL.
Let's watch #49 today and next few weeks.
I would be a hard NO on giving Edward's a huge contract.
Maybe this means he doesn’t command a lot of money either.
10M a year, I think its a no brainer, and Spotrac has him in that ballpark pending what happens in the playoffs.
Agree with that thought MJB
He drops further than Milano...
I think the Steelers need that run stuffing muscle, and missle, rather than deep ILB role..
Well..
We have neither right now...so.
Lol
He drops further than Milano...
I think the Steelers need that run stuffing muscle, and missle, rather than deep ILB role..
Well..
We have neither right now...so.
Lol
"Tomlin has never appreciated the role of scheme and play call in the ability for player's to execute" Kodiak.
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Tremaine made more plays yesterday than Bush made this past season.
disagree.
Robinson looks like he might be a plus run stuffer. On the other side of things, as a team we were fairly good against the run, and bad against the pass, with a particular weakness against any pass targeting LBs and underneath routes. We need an ILB that can cover, desperately.
Just because Bush is a horrific ILB and football player in general and our biggest draft bust that I can remember, doesn't mean Edmunds is a good investment.
I'm looking for value and production.
I'm looking for value and production.
Edmunds had 4 PD yesterday. How many does Bush have as a Steeler?
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it all depends the deal he looking for
Good guess! According to Pro Football Reference, Bush has 13 PD in 52 regular season games, and one PD in one playoff game (2019).
Edit: max in any SEASON for Bush is 4 PD…
Minkah and almost anyone (like not anyone on this board, but you know, anyone who could get through the combine n’et) could be formidable. Because Minkah’s biggest strength is his ability to coach up other dudes. Too bad he’s gonna be rich by the time he retires. Because he could be another Tony Dungy or something.DP39 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:57 pm^Exactly.Steelperch wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:58 amTremaine is the LB version of Terrell. Bills fans bitch about him a lot. Super athletic, but it doesn’t always translate to the football field and is often out of position. That said, he’s better than the bums we have now. All comes down to the cost.
I'll also add that Matt Milano covers up a lot of Tremaine's dumbness/lack of instinct -- much like Minkah does for his brother, Terrell.
I think you let Terrell Edmunds walk and go get SEA's Ryan Neal for less money ($2.5M/per). I believe T. Austin could turn he and Minkah into every bit (and then some) of the Bill's Poyer & Hyde combo.
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I have zero idea why anyone would think Edmunds x 2 would work in the AFC North
Count me in the hells no department
Which means it’s probably what the Steelers are gonna do
Count me in the hells no department
Which means it’s probably what the Steelers are gonna do
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