Brian Flores

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Is there any chance that the Steelers could retire Mike Tomlin at the end of 2023 & sign Brian Flores as head coach? It was so clear watching the Chiefs/Bengals game that without someone with a brain as head coach, the Steelers can possily have positive season records but probably never do well in a playoff scenario no matter how strong the line-up of players. Pickett has already claimed how Flores helped him turn around his rookie season & Flores even has the respect of Minkah Fitzpatrick despite having a confrontational past relationship in Miami.

[jeemie]

Flores might not be here next season.

[Kodiak.]

Flores might not be here next season.

Correct.

And while I think Flores would be an upgrade over Mediocre Mike, we need an offensive minded coach. Is Tua and Miami as good if Flores was still coach?

[jeemie]

Oh and Tomlin is under contract until 2024

So he is HC at least until then.

[Jobu]

Flores might not be here next season.

Correct.

And while I think Flores would be an upgrade over Mediocre Mike, we need an offensive minded coach. Is Tua and Miami as good if Flores was still coach?

I agree, offensive coach. And 15-16 years from now, when the Steelers are searching for a new head coach, I hope that’s where they look!

[K_C_]

Flores might not be here next season.

Correct.

And while I think Flores would be an upgrade over Mediocre Mike, we need an offensive minded coach. Is Tua and Miami as good if Flores was still coach?

Well, 2 things:

1) Mike McDaniel wasn't the only piece added after Flores was fired to help Tua emerge into an NFL level QB. Miami only added the fastest, most dangerous WR in the NFL, to go along with a young emerging star WR already on the roster. Miami gave Tua a legit All Pro level LT and upgraded the entire RB room with new talent.

2) Not sure if you realize it, but Tua is STILL in concussion protocols. I don't think it would surprise anybody if Tua retired at some point this offseason.

He'd be crazy to continue playing.

I should add that it's common knowledge down here in South Florida that Brian Flores DID NOT want Tua Tagovailoa.

He wanted Justin Herbert.

Flores is a pretty smart cookie.

[Orangesteel]

Chargers hired Kellen Moore.

We retain Matt Canada.

That’s all you need to know about where this franchise currently is. A playoff team with Justin Herbert realizes they need to get better to compete in the AFC.

The Steelers think “everything is fine” because we beat the Panthers and the Browns at the end of the season last year and preserved NHALS.

This team is dumb. This franchise is dumb.

[955876]

Chargers hired Kellen Moore.

We retain Matt Canada.

That’s all you need to know about where this franchise currently is. A playoff team with Justin Herbert realizes they need to get better to compete in the AFC.

The Steelers think “everything is fine” because we beat the Panthers and the Browns at the end of the season last year and preserved NHALS.

This team is dumb. This franchise is dumb.

Yep…

[Professor Half Wit]

Chargers hired Kellen Moore.

We retain Matt Canada.

That’s all you need to know about where this franchise currently is. A playoff team with Justin Herbert realizes they need to get better to compete in the AFC.

The Steelers think “everything is fine” because we beat the Panthers and the Browns at the end of the season last year and preserved NHALS.

This team is dumb. This franchise is dumb.

The Steelers do not think everything is fine.

Rooney said not everything is fine.

Further, and you will not like to hear this, but on the back half of the season, the Steelers offense ended up being top 10 in a bunch of categories. The problem is that the one that counts the most, scoring touchdowns, remained shitty.

If Canada and the merry band can somehow sort out the red zone woes, there might just be something to work with.

Not endorsing it. But there it is.

[langer]

Coach Mike's considerable intellect will be captured by ChatMT, he will then always be Coach.

Which is either heaven, purgatory or hell to some.

If you will.

[Steelperch]

If ownership had any brains they’d name Flores assistant head coach and bump his salary up right now with an agreement he wouldn’t leave this off-season unless he got a HC gig. Then next year they’d be eligible for a 3rd round draft pick if he gets picked up as a HC somewhere.

Spend a little money to buy yourself a top 100 pick. If he leaves this off-season the whole rehab of Flores reputation was useless for the organization.

[SteelerDayTrader]

If ownership had any brains they’d name Flores assistant head coach and bump his salary up right now with an agreement he wouldn’t leave this off-season unless he got a HC gig. Then next year they’d be eligible for a 3rd round draft pick if he gets picked up as a HC somewhere.

Spend a little money to buy yourself a top 100 pick. If he leaves this off-season the whole rehab of Flores reputation was useless for the organization.

[jeemie]

If ownership had any brains they’d name Flores assistant head coach and bump his salary up right now with an agreement he wouldn’t leave this off-season unless he got a HC gig. Then next year they’d be eligible for a 3rd round draft pick if he gets picked up as a HC somewhere.

Spend a little money to buy yourself a top 100 pick. If he leaves this off-season the whole rehab of Flores reputation was useless for the organization.

Better do it quickly…he’s already out on the trail

[Jizz Mop]

Perch, B2B

I brought in a shiny Macintosh apple for both of you and placed them on your interweb desks

Jizz

[K_C_]

Perch, B2B

I brought in a shiny Macintosh apple for both of you and placed them on your interweb desks

Jizz

[Kodiak.]

If he leaves this off-season the whole rehab of Flores reputation was useless for the organization.

Hey, he might have been critical to extending NHALS!

[langer]

If ownership had any brains

[Jobu]

Perch, B2B

I brought in a shiny Macintosh apple for both of you and placed them on your interweb desks

Jizz

I know what you’re doing….
You’re gonna need apple s.

[Pickett's Platoon]

Hopefully we can keep Flores on next year and get that Affirmative Action comp pick for him in 2024.

[Jtf]

Flores might not be here next season.

Correct.

And while I think Flores would be an upgrade over Mediocre Mike, we need an offensive minded coach. Is Tua and Miami as good if Flores was still coach?

Well, 2 things:

1) Mike McDaniel wasn't the only piece added after Flores was fired to help Tua emerge into an NFL level QB. Miami only added the fastest, most dangerous WR in the NFL, to go along with a young emerging star WR already on the roster. Miami gave Tua a legit All Pro level LT and upgraded the entire RB room with new talent.

2) Not sure if you realize it, but Tua is STILL in concussion protocols. I don't think it would surprise anybody if Tua retired at some point this offseason.

He'd be crazy to continue playing.

I should add that it's common knowledge down here in South Florida that Brian Flores DID NOT want Tua Tagovailoa.

He wanted Justin Herbert.

Flores is a pretty smart cookie.

Incorrect. Listening to the Big O show in Florida he confirmed Flores wanted Jordan Love

[K_C_]

Correct.

And while I think Flores would be an upgrade over Mediocre Mike, we need an offensive minded coach. Is Tua and Miami as good if Flores was still coach?

Well, 2 things:

1) Mike McDaniel wasn't the only piece added after Flores was fired to help Tua emerge into an NFL level QB. Miami only added the fastest, most dangerous WR in the NFL, to go along with a young emerging star WR already on the roster. Miami gave Tua a legit All Pro level LT and upgraded the entire RB room with new talent.

2) Not sure if you realize it, but Tua is STILL in concussion protocols. I don't think it would surprise anybody if Tua retired at some point this offseason.

He'd be crazy to continue playing.

I should add that it's common knowledge down here in South Florida that Brian Flores DID NOT want Tua Tagovailoa.

He wanted Justin Herbert.

Flores is a pretty smart cookie.

Incorrect. Listening to the Big O show in Florida he confirmed Flores wanted Jordan Love

I like Alzugaray but he actually said Flores told him he wanted Jordan Love?

One of my very best friends is tight with several Dolphins players and is in the owner's box at every Dolphins home game.

This dude knows shit. Believe me. I wouldn't even repeat half of what he told me (including what a dick Dan Marino, his idol, is).

So unless Flores literally said that on Alzugaray's show, I don't believe it.

[Jtf]

Big O is really good I think. No ,Flores didn't say that on the show ,but Big O has good sources and I believe Flores knew so little about offense that he wanted Jordan Love. He didn't even want Herbert. He was clueless on that side of the ball One of the worst offensive coaches I have ever seen.

Now he is good for defense and that is what Steelers use him for so that is all that matters. But he couldn't get anyone to join his staff in Miami because nobody could get along with him.

His big problem was that Jim Caldwell quit after two months. That was bad sign around the league and then he fired the oline coach 5 days into miami 's training camp his first year That caused any respected coach to want to leave his staff and no respected coach wanted to join.

He had several d coaches take lateral moves like Patrick Graham to just get away from him. He had to take Ryan Fitzpatrick's suggestion that he hire Chan Gailey because nobody wanted to work with him. He even wanted Matt Canada and Canada turned down the interview. lol Can you imagine that?

Never seen a coach not understand one side of the ball as much as Flores. I think his value is over rated by some. I wasn't impressed with his work with the Steelers backers this year. I do think he will stay with Steelers because he will want to do them a solid and get them draft picks by staying one year longer. Then he will move on. Just a lot of things people don't know about Flores.

[955876]

Never seen a coach not understand one side of the ball as much as Flores.

Well then he and Jibbs must be two peas from the same pod

[K_C_]

Big O is really good I think. No ,Flores didn't say that on the show ,but Big O has good sources and I believe Flores knew so little about offense that he wanted Jordan Love. He didn't even want Herbert. He was clueless on that side of the ball One of the worst offensive coaches I have ever seen.

Now he is good for defense and that is what Steelers use him for so that is all that matters. But he couldn't get anyone to join his staff in Miami because nobody could get along with him.

His big problem was that Jim Caldwell quit after two months. That was bad sign around the league and then he fired the oline coach 5 days into miami 's training camp his first year That caused any respected coach to want to leave his staff and no respected coach wanted to join.

He had several d coaches take lateral moves like Patrick Graham to just get away from him. He had to take Ryan Fitzpatrick's suggestion that he hire Chan Gailey because nobody wanted to work with him. He even wanted Matt Canada and Canada turned down the interview. lol Can you imagine that?

Never seen a coach not understand one side of the ball as much as Flores. I think his value is over rated by some. I wasn't impressed with his work with the Steelers backers this year. I do think he will stay with Steelers because he will want to do them a solid and get them draft picks by staying one year longer. Then he will move on. Just a lot of things people don't know about Flores.

Well, as for his work with the Steelers linebackers, it's pretty clear the dude didn't have a lot to work with. Also, we all know Tomlin's conservative approach to both offense and defense and my bet is that Flores wanted Mark Robinson on the field much sooner than it actually happened. I could be wrong int that respect. I doubt I am. Tomlin pushed hard to acquire Bush and somebody had to have finally convinced Tomlin to drastically cut Bush's snaps and go with Spillane and Robinson. I'm betting that was Flores.

Also, Highsmith has flirted the last few years with becoming a high level pass rusher. That finally happened in Flores' first season and has to be looked at as significant.

I also believe Miami was simply a clusterfuck and a lot of that Flores was far more a victim of, than he was the problem. Remember when Miami had won like 3 or 4 in a row with Fitzpatrick at QB (I forget exactly how many games it was) and all of a sudden, Fitzpatrick is benched because Miami knew they had to see what they had in Tua. I personally know Miami fans who blame Flores for that. Do you believe for a second Flores wanted to make that move or did it come from ownership?

[steelmann58]

some guys just are better as Coord spot than HC

[blu]

some guys just are better as Coord spot than HC

Tomlin came here as a defensive/defensive back specialist as head coach & has showed prowess in nothing. A head coach like Brian Flores has not only has pushed the defense to being better & to whom Kenny Pickett claims to have turned his season around would be such a major upgrade.

[Pickett's Platoon]

Also, Highsmith has flirted the last few years with becoming a high level pass rusher. That finally happened in Flores' first season and has to be looked at as significant.

Remember people here saying that Highsmith would never equal up to, much less surpass the great Dong Dupree???

[langer]

Kinda figured that the whole lawsuit thing wasn't really that straightforward.

Sues Donks, then they request to interview him. Hooookay.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... ordinator/

[steelmann58]

Arizona

[Kodiak.]

Kinda figured that the whole lawsuit thing wasn't really that straightforward.

Sues Donks, then they request to interview him. Hooookay.

Is this a premature take? Wasn't the gist of his lawsuit that he and other minority coaches were only getting token interviews?