Eagles just released CB Darius Slay....hmmm?
Eagles just released CB Darius Slay....hmmm?
Well, the Eagles just released CB Darius Slay.
This is the one player I always thought Teryl Austin would ask Tomlin to get him if he ever had the chance.
He just turned 32 and still one of the top CBs in the NFL. I wonder what his asking price will be?
I'd cut either Spoon or Wallace and take their $4M cap savings and add it to his pot -- whatever that is.
He's a player that you cut Spoon and Mitch, the titty kisser, for, imo. He and PP could do wonders in helping coach up a promising 2nd or 3rd round draft pick. Also, bring back Pierre on a cheap/bottom deal. I always thought his biggest problem was mental. A year or two under some really smart CBs like Slay and PP could take his game up several notches, imo. Slay, PP, Wallace, Pierre and a raw/high ceiling 2nd or 3rd rounder could make a great CB room.
Anyway, I'd give him 2 yrs/$27M with $13MG.
This is the one player I always thought Teryl Austin would ask Tomlin to get him if he ever had the chance.
He just turned 32 and still one of the top CBs in the NFL. I wonder what his asking price will be?
I'd cut either Spoon or Wallace and take their $4M cap savings and add it to his pot -- whatever that is.
He's a player that you cut Spoon and Mitch, the titty kisser, for, imo. He and PP could do wonders in helping coach up a promising 2nd or 3rd round draft pick. Also, bring back Pierre on a cheap/bottom deal. I always thought his biggest problem was mental. A year or two under some really smart CBs like Slay and PP could take his game up several notches, imo. Slay, PP, Wallace, Pierre and a raw/high ceiling 2nd or 3rd rounder could make a great CB room.
Anyway, I'd give him 2 yrs/$27M with $13MG.
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Sure why not add another 32 year old corner
Weidl probably digs him
Weidl probably digs him
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The Titty Kisser should have been released as soon as last season ended.
I cannot believe he's still on the Steelers roster.
I cannot believe he's still on the Steelers roster.
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I gotta say, I'd trust an old Patrick Peterson or Darius Slay against Chase, Higgins and guys like that anytime over dudes like Cam Sutton, Witherspoon or Pierre.Steeldrama wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:17 pmSure why not add another 32 year old corner
Weidl probably digs him
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He's still here for the same reason as Jack and Witherspoon: There's no need to release him right now and there's not currently a replacement on the roster.
I agree with you 100%, but you have to admit that our FO has given us reason to be VERY concerned the roster/salaries will stay this way while somehow stupidly justifying it in their minds.
And, I'm not trying to "chicken Little" this, but the longer they wait to find proper cost replacements the shallower the pool gets -- all while their excuses of why they didn't do anything get easy in their minds.
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No questionK_C_ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:42 pmI gotta say, I'd trust an old Patrick Peterson or Darius Slay against Chase, Higgins and guys like that anytime over dudes like Cam Sutton, Witherspoon or Pierre.Steeldrama wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:17 pmSure why not add another 32 year old corner
Weidl probably digs him
Totally agree
I’m just being a snarky dbag because I’m rarely happy with the Steelers laissez faire approach to offseason talent acquisition
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If the Steleers are going to do this weird half in and half out bullshit with competing, they at least could prove they're more "in" by actually trying to solidify their deficiencies?
Well, any prospective back up QB that could have replaced Trubisky is gone now, I'd imagine.
Mike White to the Dolphins. Andy Dalton got another deal, etc.
I haven't checked to see if it would save the Steelers money to release Trubisky after June 1st, but I'll bet they have no plans to release him at all.
Whether Titty Kisser agrees to take a pay cut or not.
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Well free agency is a slippery slope. Sure, I'd have loved to see the Steelers land a better ILB free agent, although Holcomb is very, very interesting, but I'd rather the Steelers take a cautious approach and not overpay a middling talent like Cam Suttton, like the Lions did.Steeldrama wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:31 pmNo questionK_C_ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:42 pmI gotta say, I'd trust an old Patrick Peterson or Darius Slay against Chase, Higgins and guys like that anytime over dudes like Cam Sutton, Witherspoon or Pierre.Steeldrama wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:17 pmSure why not add another 32 year old corner
Weidl probably digs him
Totally agree
I’m just being a snarky dbag because I’m rarely happy with the Steelers laissez faire approach to offseason talent acquisition
Miami is the team that still puzzles me. They have a roster ready to compete for a Super Bowl and they added David Long and Jalen Ramsey to it.
They also have a QB who will probably be retired by mid season. That just makes absolutely no sense.
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I honestly think they’re tryingHacksaw Jim Duggan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:35 pmIf the Steleers are going to do this weird half in and half out bullshit with competing, they at least could prove they're more "in" by actually trying to solidify their deficiencies?
I’ll withhold my final judgement until after the draft
He may land in Dallas.
Thought I read somewhere they were trying to work out a trade?
Thought I read somewhere they were trying to work out a trade?
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Agreed. I'm sure they're trying. I don't blame them for not giving Cam Sutton the money the Lions did. That's why the Lions have been an utter disaster since the 60's. Dumbass moves like with Sutton.Jizz Mop wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:03 pmI honestly think they’re tryingHacksaw Jim Duggan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:35 pmIf the Steleers are going to do this weird half in and half out bullshit with competing, they at least could prove they're more "in" by actually trying to solidify their deficiencies?
I’ll withhold my final judgement until after the draft
I'll take Patrick Peterson for 2 years and drafting a corner at 17 and that makes me very happy.
Holcomb is a very interesting prospect. Reading about him and watching video, the kid can play no doubt about it. If we add a young ILB at 32 or later in the second, along with Mark Robinson, we'll be just fine.
I was just hoping they might be in on Adam Thielen to give them a Cotch like veteran to help out DJ and Pickens, especially if STD is right and Calvin Austin III isn't doing really great in his rehab. Draft a burner at some point in the draft. Gotta find someone to take the top off some defenses to help Kenny.
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Cutting Trubisky post June 1 won't do anything since he's a UFA after the season. Wentz, Mariota, Bridgewater, Brissett, Chase Daniel, and several others are still out there.K_C_ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:58 pmWell, any prospective back up QB that could have replaced Trubisky is gone now, I'd imagine.
Mike White to the Dolphins. Andy Dalton got another deal, etc.
I haven't checked to see if it would save the Steelers money to release Trubisky after June 1st, but I'll bet they have no plans to release him at all.
Whether Titty Kisser agrees to take a pay cut or not.
In Dalton's case in particular, you have to wonder if he signed somewhere he could start next season. And honestly, is Dalton *that* much of an upgrade over Trubisky? Maybe he'd be a better mentor, but I honestly don't know.
Worst case scenario is you overpay Trubisky (and others) for 1 year and you have a mountain of cap space heading into 2024.
Yes to Brissett and possibly to Wentz. That's about it.Pabst wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:23 pmCutting Trubisky post June 1 won't do anything since he's a UFA after the season. Wentz, Mariota, Bridgewater, Brissett, Chase Daniel, and several others are still out there.K_C_ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:58 pmWell, any prospective back up QB that could have replaced Trubisky is gone now, I'd imagine.
Mike White to the Dolphins. Andy Dalton got another deal, etc.
I haven't checked to see if it would save the Steelers money to release Trubisky after June 1st, but I'll bet they have no plans to release him at all.
Whether Titty Kisser agrees to take a pay cut or not.
In Dalton's case in particular, you have to wonder if he signed somewhere he could start next season. And honestly, is Dalton *that* much of an upgrade over Trubisky? Maybe he'd be a better mentor, but I honestly don't know.
Worst case scenario is you overpay Trubisky (and others) for 1 year and you have a mountain of cap space heading into 2024.
Bridgewater was brutally awful in Miami. I have friends down here that are huge Dolphins fans. They never want to see Bridgewater on a football field again. Give me Mitch all day long before Teddy or Mariota. I had hope Mariota could resurrect his career in Atlanta. Jesus he was awful. Marcus is the epitome of "athlete, not a football player". No to Daniel also.
Wentz is still young. Sure, he'll never end up being the guy the Eagles hoped he'd become but in the right situation, I could see Wentz being a quality back up. Brissett looked better than Watson last year. By a lot. Brissett is a good QB. Far better than Mitch.
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K_C_ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:47 pmYes to Brissett and possibly to Wentz. That's about it.Pabst wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 5:23 pmCutting Trubisky post June 1 won't do anything since he's a UFA after the season. Wentz, Mariota, Bridgewater, Brissett, Chase Daniel, and several others are still out there.K_C_ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:58 pm
Well, any prospective back up QB that could have replaced Trubisky is gone now, I'd imagine.
Mike White to the Dolphins. Andy Dalton got another deal, etc.
I haven't checked to see if it would save the Steelers money to release Trubisky after June 1st, but I'll bet they have no plans to release him at all.
Whether Titty Kisser agrees to take a pay cut or not.
In Dalton's case in particular, you have to wonder if he signed somewhere he could start next season. And honestly, is Dalton *that* much of an upgrade over Trubisky? Maybe he'd be a better mentor, but I honestly don't know.
Worst case scenario is you overpay Trubisky (and others) for 1 year and you have a mountain of cap space heading into 2024.
Bridgewater was brutally awful in Miami. I have friends down here that are huge Dolphins fans. They never want to see Bridgewater on a football field again. Give me Mitch all day long before Teddy or Mariota. I had hope Mariota could resurrect his career in Atlanta. Jesus he was awful. Marcus is the epitome of "athlete, not a football player". No to Daniel also.
Wentz is still young. Sure, he'll never end up being the guy the Eagles hoped he'd become but in the right situation, I could see Wentz being a quality back up. Brissett looked better than Watson last year. By a lot. Brissett is a good QB. Far better than Mitch.
Wentz and Brissett are a sort of anti-Kenny Pickett. Both will look good-to-great through the course of a game but then make a soul crushing mistake in crunch time. That said, both would be an upgrade to Mitch so it all comes down to price.
I guess my opinion comes down to this: Let's say we cut Mitch and sign whoever - Does the $2 or $3 million in cap savings really move the needle? We marginally improve on a position that, ideally, never sees the field, but that move by itself doesn't help fill another need.
Vet backups make bank now. Tomlin is going to have an experienced backup, period. You guys thinking someone with similar experience will come cheaper than Mitch are crazy. Mitch is going nowhere this year unless some crazy GM offers a pick for him which isn't going to happen. It's more likely they approach him and try to work out an extension to lower his cap hit. Then we'll see if he really thinks he'll get a shot to start somewhere again.
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I’ve always been a believer that your backup needs to have a similar skill set as your starter. I think Trubisky gives you that backing up Pickett. If he needs to go into the game, you don’t need to change the offense.
Then there is the very real possibility that they are holding on to Trubisky with the thought of trading him around/on draft weekend.
Then there is the very real possibility that they are holding on to Trubisky with the thought of trading him around/on draft weekend.
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All of this constant chatter about cutting Myles Jack and Mitch is boring and pointless.
Free agency has started and the top tier players and mid sized players have all quickly been gobbled up. If the Steelers were going to make a big splash or pursue higher quality players then the cutting of Jack, Mitch, the restructuring of Cam, Minkah, Watt would have occurred before free agency started. They have shown their hand, they are going to be more quiet this offseason.
I think they are content to sign their own and extend Alex Highsmith, and that is not a bad plan. Especially if they have a master plan where they ARE going to trade down and garner multiple picks. We have 4 picks in the top 80, but what if they trade down and end up with 6 picks in the top 100?
Say we end up with a 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3? Now is the time to embrace the draft, and not to keep signing age 30+ players. Allow the team building to occur naturally, allow the young draft picks to learn and develop, what is the damn hurry? It isn't like this is a Super Bowl team that is one 32 year old signing away from a Championship.
Free agency has started and the top tier players and mid sized players have all quickly been gobbled up. If the Steelers were going to make a big splash or pursue higher quality players then the cutting of Jack, Mitch, the restructuring of Cam, Minkah, Watt would have occurred before free agency started. They have shown their hand, they are going to be more quiet this offseason.
I think they are content to sign their own and extend Alex Highsmith, and that is not a bad plan. Especially if they have a master plan where they ARE going to trade down and garner multiple picks. We have 4 picks in the top 80, but what if they trade down and end up with 6 picks in the top 100?
Say we end up with a 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3? Now is the time to embrace the draft, and not to keep signing age 30+ players. Allow the team building to occur naturally, allow the young draft picks to learn and develop, what is the damn hurry? It isn't like this is a Super Bowl team that is one 32 year old signing away from a Championship.
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Those young guys get better by not having aging obstacles in their way for playing time.
I say again, please explain to me how extending Alex Highsnith works for either party. Highsmith is going to want top 10 EDGE $ (like $25M/yr) and the Steelers are already trotting out the most expensive defense in the NFL, with a $30M/yr EDGE.
I think there’s only a few scenarios:
1. Highsmith plays well, Steelers make the most of it this season, lose him to FA, get a comp 3rd in 2025
2. Highsnith plays poorly early, Steelers underperform as a whole, they trade Highsmith at the deadline if someone offers better than a 3rd
3. Highsmith plays… okay, they sign him to a friendly prove it deal after the season but we’re all hoping for a bounce back
I say again, please explain to me how extending Alex Highsnith works for either party. Highsmith is going to want top 10 EDGE $ (like $25M/yr) and the Steelers are already trotting out the most expensive defense in the NFL, with a $30M/yr EDGE.
I think there’s only a few scenarios:
1. Highsmith plays well, Steelers make the most of it this season, lose him to FA, get a comp 3rd in 2025
2. Highsnith plays poorly early, Steelers underperform as a whole, they trade Highsmith at the deadline if someone offers better than a 3rd
3. Highsmith plays… okay, they sign him to a friendly prove it deal after the season but we’re all hoping for a bounce back
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I agree with the trade Down to add more picks. Then a poster brought up a great point about a speedy Wr. I think the Steelers like Miller in the slot.ps love them to add Slay even though he is older
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Eagles never officially released CB Darius Slay today and now one source said that the Pro-Bowl CB is “expected to stay with the Eagles. It’s not final, but that’s the way it is looking right now.” A new deal could be in the works.
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Eagles never officially released CB Darius Slay today and now one source said that the Pro-Bowl CB is “expected to stay with the Eagles. It’s not final, but that’s the way it is looking right now.” A new deal could be in the works.
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