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Johnson blasts refs

Post by RemoAZ » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:41 pm

I posted this in the game thread but I thought it needed it's own since it's getting a lot of attention and I'd bet a huge fine. I certainly didn't think it cost them the game but the refs weren't good. All the pussy roughing calls are hurting the game too imo.

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More Diontae Johnson: “They were calling some stupid stuff. They should get fined for making terrible calls. That’s how pissed I am. They cost us the game.”
"They must have got paid good today or something."


And Tomlin barking at the ref on the sideline:

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Post by jeemie » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:45 pm

I bet Tomlin eats a fine for that one, especially since the official he said that to was a woman.

And I am telling you- the Steelers made their displeasure with the officials well know LAST week (only there the calls favored both teams, and especially the Steelers at the end), and it almost felt like the officials were getting even.

I suspect we will be in for more of the same treatment...maybe even worse...on Thursday.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:47 pm

I’m glad Tomlin is supposedly blasting the refs

It has to be done by the HC
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Post by Jobu » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:49 pm

DJ will have a lighter wallet next week…and won’t be getting the benefit of the doubt on close calls for the foreseeable future.
These guys need to shut the fuck up and just play better.

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:51 pm

I said it in another thread, DJ needs to shut up about the refs and start trying to catch a TD at least once a season or so. I guess DJ wasn't paying attention last week when the refs handed the Steelers the win with an obvious bad spot. The Steelers lost the game today because they're not very good, not because of the refs.

I'm starting to get really sick of DJ in general. Tomlin's hissy fit on the sidelines was pathetic too. Instead of ripping on the refs, maybe think about implementing an offense that isn't terrible? Just a thought.

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Post by steelmann58 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:54 pm

He still drops balls but liked Tomlin steeping up

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Post by RemoAZ » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:55 pm

And of course tied with the moronic FG call for worst one in the NFL this season. I don't know about you guys but these calls make the game less enjoyable for me. Every time there's a good tackle or block, you have to stop and check for flags before you can cheer.

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Post by Kodiak. » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:58 pm

There is no more pathetic sight than watching a bad team and its HC - lucky to be 4-2 - bitching about officiating calls.

Lining up in the neutral zone on a FG kick is called at least every few weeks league wide. You bitch about that call when your offense sucks and it's a herculean effort to gain a yard, much less score points.

Keep running your mouths. Maybe Rooney will get embarrassed enough for heads to roll.
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Post by Mick » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:03 am

You lose your QB while trailing in the first half, you expect to lose. Calls really didn’t matter today.

That said, there was a defender lined up in neutral zone on the kick and no one on offense close.

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Post by Jobu » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:06 am

RemoAZ wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:55 pm
And of course tied with the moronic FG call for worst one in the NFL this season. I don't know about you guys but these calls make the game less enjoyable for me. Every time there's a good tackle or block, you have to stop and check for flags before you can cheer.

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He landed on the QB. By rule that’s roughing the passer.
And lining up in the neutral zone is always a penalty, whether on a FG or normal play.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:12 am

I really think we need to do away with replay and just let the calls happen with changes to rules rarely happening and less attempts to define minute details of the game

I grew up in the beginning of the tv replay era but many years before it was pushed into the game

The refs were a much more a smaller secondary affect to the game

Rarely were games decided by refs late

Were bad calls made or not made ??

Yes. But they were pretty evenly applied and the refs tended to swallow their whistles in the 4th and everyone knew that

Now things seem increasingly in the hands of the refs the entire game

And many of the rules are so minute it’s very difficult to make a clean call that comes from a legit intended violation

Falling on the QB is a penalty unless it’s just not

Too much bullshit like that
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Post by Kodiak. » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:39 am

“I hadn't seen that called in 17 years of standing on the sidelines,” Tomlin said. “I have never seen that.”

Your WR's get called for that 3-4X a year going back to Hines Ward, dumbass
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:44 am

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Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:47 pm
I’m glad Tomlin is supposedly blasting the refs

It has to be done by the HC
Ditto. He doesn’t do it enough.

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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:54 am

RemoAZ wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:55 pm
And of course tied with the moronic FG call for worst one in the NFL this season. I don't know about you guys but these calls make the game less enjoyable for me. Every time there's a good tackle or block, you have to stop and check for flags before you can cheer.

https://twitter.com/chadtyson/status/17 ... 3776601269
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The game isn't enjoyable. If it wasn't for nostalgia and the habit of watching the Steelers over the course of my entire life, I'd be done with the NFL.

The refs are far too much a part of the game. I'll leave it at that. It's how the NFL wants it. Managed outcomes.

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Post by 955876 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:25 am

CKSteeler wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:54 am
RemoAZ wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:55 pm
And of course tied with the moronic FG call for worst one in the NFL this season. I don't know about you guys but these calls make the game less enjoyable for me. Every time there's a good tackle or block, you have to stop and check for flags before you can cheer.

https://twitter.com/chadtyson/status/17 ... 3776601269
Roughing the passer 🤦‍♂️ #Steelers
The game isn't enjoyable. If it wasn't for nostalgia and the habit of watching the Steelers over the course of my entire life, I'd be done with the NFL.

The refs are far too much a part of the game. I'll leave it at that. It's how the NFL wants it. Managed outcomes.
I almost turned it off after one of the most ridiculous “roughing the passer” calls I’ve seen.

Only bested by the infamous pulling down the sock roughing call.

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Post by jebrick » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:45 am

RemoAZ wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:55 pm
And of course tied with the moronic FG call for worst one in the NFL this season. I don't know about you guys but these calls make the game less enjoyable for me. Every time there's a good tackle or block, you have to stop and check for flags before you can cheer.

https://twitter.com/chadtyson/status/17 ... 3776601269
Roughing the passer 🤦‍♂️ #Steelers
They need to have the hit that injured KP side-by-side with that one. A no call on the KP hit was criminal.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:59 am

More complaining from Steelers players: https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pi ... -shot-refs

Bad calls happen. It's sad to see the Steelers whining so much about bad calls in the first half that ultimately should have had no impact on the outcome. The whining is particularly hard to stomach considering that the Steelers got a game deciding bad call in their favor last week. When your offense is so bad that cracking 20 points in a game takes a minor miracle, then a field goal attempt becomes critically important, so blame the refs and cry when they take it away. Rather than introspection, the Steelers have apparently decided to blame their offensive shittyness on the refs instead. That's a sign of a team with no answers. Maybe this will be the final season of NHALS after all...

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Post by Mick » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:13 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:59 am
More complaining from Steelers players: https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pi ... -shot-refs

Bad calls happen. It's sad to see the Steelers whining so much about bad calls in the first half that ultimately should have had no impact on the outcome. The whining is particularly hard to stomach considering that the Steelers got a game deciding bad call in their favor last week. When your offense is so bad that cracking 20 points in a game takes a minor miracle, then a field goal attempt becomes critically important, so blame the refs and cry when they take it away. Rather than introspection, the Steelers have apparently decided to blame their offensive shittyness on the refs instead. That's a sign of a team with no answers. Maybe this will be the final season of NHALS after all...
i do feel bad for boswell, who was perfect on the season (6/6 from 50+) until the blown officiating forced him to attempt a career long 61 yarder in a downpour. Like a pitcher working on a perfect game giving up a base runner to two straight down the middle pitches getting called balls.

But calling the roughing wouldn’t make Pickett healthy again. And we were not treated to Good Trubisky this week. But again, Trubisky has led offenses to a bunch of 400 yard games and a 64/36 TD/Int ratio there, vs. 5/7 in the Canada offense. When he’s throwing into triple coverage, odds are he’s doing it because that’s where Canada planned the ball to go on that play.
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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:17 pm

Mick wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:13 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:59 am
More complaining from Steelers players: https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pi ... -shot-refs

Bad calls happen. It's sad to see the Steelers whining so much about bad calls in the first half that ultimately should have had no impact on the outcome. The whining is particularly hard to stomach considering that the Steelers got a game deciding bad call in their favor last week. When your offense is so bad that cracking 20 points in a game takes a minor miracle, then a field goal attempt becomes critically important, so blame the refs and cry when they take it away. Rather than introspection, the Steelers have apparently decided to blame their offensive shittyness on the refs instead. That's a sign of a team with no answers. Maybe this will be the final season of NHALS after all...
i do feel bad for boswell, who was perfect on the season (6/6 from 50+) until the blown officiating forced him to attempt a career long 61 yarder in a downpour. Like a pitcher working on a perfect game giving up a base runner to two straight down the middle pitches getting called balls.
I wasn't concerned at all about the bad calls until you pointed that out. I just made the thread for all the attention it's getting and in anticipation of the fines that are sure to follow. Sucks for Boswell. One of the few bright spots on the team. The screen shots of the play that I've seen don't show anybody off sides. Certainly too close to warrant a call. Not sure what they were thinking there.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:21 pm

Mick wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:13 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:59 am
More complaining from Steelers players: https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pi ... -shot-refs

Bad calls happen. It's sad to see the Steelers whining so much about bad calls in the first half that ultimately should have had no impact on the outcome. The whining is particularly hard to stomach considering that the Steelers got a game deciding bad call in their favor last week. When your offense is so bad that cracking 20 points in a game takes a minor miracle, then a field goal attempt becomes critically important, so blame the refs and cry when they take it away. Rather than introspection, the Steelers have apparently decided to blame their offensive shittyness on the refs instead. That's a sign of a team with no answers. Maybe this will be the final season of NHALS after all...
i do feel bad for boswell, who was perfect on the season (6/6 from 50+) until the blown officiating forced him to attempt a career long 61 yarder in a downpour. Like a pitcher working on a perfect game giving up a base runner to two straight down the middle pitches getting called balls.

No doubt it was a shitty call. But a good team doesn't have to bitch and moan about a missed first half field goal opportunity. A shitty and desperate one with a totally inept offense does, though, which is why Dionte's hyperbolic bullshit is so pathetic. It's self-pity and deflection. They aren't coping well with being so bad so are looking for others to blame for their loss. I can't remember the Steelers doing that before. It's a bad sign and gives some insight into how delusional they are inside that locker room. I am unwilling to put up with any excuses from the Steelers offense- they suck irrespective of some bad calls. Anyone blaming the refs for today's loss is letting Tomlin and Canada off the hook for the loss.

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Post by langer » Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:29 pm

Anyone blaming the refs for today's loss is letting Tomlin and Canada off the hook for the loss.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:48 pm

How about move the ball up and down the field better, and score points.
Is it now 55 gamed since we accumulated 400 yards.

I know some brush off that stat, but bottom line is, moving the ball up and down the field generally results in scoring more points.....
And not being able to move the ball up and down the field generally results in scoring fewer points and more punts.

When the defense does not score points, and does not create points off turnovers..... we do not win.

The offense has generated 52 points on its own, without the help of a turnover or missed FG.

55 straight, no 400 yard games...

And Dionte now at 23 straight games without a TD?
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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:59 pm

Mick wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:03 am
You lose your QB while trailing in the first half, you expect to lose. Calls really didn’t matter today.

That said, there was a defender lined up in neutral zone on the kick and no one on offense close.

https://twitter.com/Steelersdepot/statu ... 78/photo/1
When you look at this image, and realized the woman official threw the flag, you come to only 2 conclusions.
1) She's fucking blind.
2) She's got money on the game or has a friend who has money on the game.

There simply is no other explanation. It's a shame the NFL is so in bed with betting, but this kind of mistake should get someone fired, it's just not up to par for officiating at the professional level. I get missing on a bang bang play, that's going to happen... but this... this isn't that hard.
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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:01 pm

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“I hadn't seen that called in 17 years of standing on the sidelines,” Tomlin said. “I have never seen that.”

Your WR's get called for that 3-4X a year going back to Hines Ward, dumbass
I believe he was speaking in reference to field goal attempts.. not any offensive play.
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Post by Mick » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:15 pm

ToddHaleysNineIron wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:59 pm
Mick wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:03 am
You lose your QB while trailing in the first half, you expect to lose. Calls really didn’t matter today.

That said, there was a defender lined up in neutral zone on the kick and no one on offense close.

https://twitter.com/Steelersdepot/statu ... 78/photo/1
When you look at this image, and realized the woman official threw the flag, you come to only 2 conclusions.
1) She's fucking blind.
2) She's got money on the game or has a friend who has money on the game.

There simply is no other explanation. It's a shame the NFL is so in bed with betting, but this kind of mistake should get someone fired, it's just not up to par for officiating at the professional level. I get missing on a bang bang play, that's going to happen... but this... this isn't that hard.
honestly it kind of looks to me like the Jags end is so far offsides that in order for the ref to pretend he wasn’t in the neutral zone, ref had to imagine a diagonal line of scrimmage that chopped through the right side of our oline.

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Post by Deebo » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:33 pm

ToddHaleysNineIron wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:01 pm
Kodiak. wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:39 am
“I hadn't seen that called in 17 years of standing on the sidelines,” Tomlin said. “I have never seen that.”

Your WR's get called for that 3-4X a year going back to Hines Ward, dumbass
I believe he was speaking in reference to field goal attempts.. not any offensive play.
I've been watching football for more than 17 years and have never seen offense get called for lining up offsides on a FG. Why? Bc 99.9% of refs make it a common courtesy to say "move back a little number 77" before the snap.

Now don't take that to mean I agree with DJ's take. The refs can be poor AND you should not be complaining about them since your own performance (and the offenses' ) was putrid yesterday.

Has there ever been a team so out of touch with it's own self awareness?

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Post by 955876 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:52 pm

The refs were bad. Certainly.

But they didn’t cost us the game.

- When you can’t get 1st downs and get outgained triple digit yardage to single digit yardage…

- When your defense breaks down…

- When your punter kicks the ball less than 30 yards…

- When your safety intercepts the ball in the EZ then takes it out to the 3…

- When opposing defensive players continue to talk about how basic and simple our offense is…

- When the HC tries to get people to believe these woefully pathetic offensive starts to games do not impact the game…

- When your veteran back-up QB throws into triple coverage…

- When your “star” running backs longest run on the day is 3 yards.

- When your 1st round pick QB misses wife the fuck open receivers…

There is more.

But when all the above (and then some) is who you are as a team and what you put on tape week after week then you’ve got zero business blaming the damn refs for losing a game.

You suck. That is why you lost the game.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:33 pm

Bad calls should be called out on the field and after the game. Period

Many of you bitch when it doesn’t happen and bitch when it does happen

Because bitches bitch
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Post by 955876 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:49 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:33 pm
Bad calls should be called out on the field and after the game. Period

Many of you bitch when it doesn’t happen and bitch when it does happen

Because bitches bitch
You are so dumb.

Bad calls occur in just about every game. And they do get called out. I do t have a problem with Jibbs dressing down the refs during the game.

But this isn’t that. This is players on the worst offense in football blaming a bad call on losing a game they sucked in yet again.

They sound like a bunch of losers (which they are) blaming the refs.

When your offense can go almost an entire half with no 1st downs and like 7 yards YOU lost the game, not a bad call.

And hey, maybe instead of tonguing Jibbs ass for finally showing some passion and yelling at the e tree F’s maybe get on him for his stubborn insistence on running the same plays and style that have led to the worst offesne in the league.

But ya, let’s get excited they are lashing out at the refs.

Maybe next week a few calls will go our way so our players don’t actually have to beat the other team.

The refs will do it for us… :roll:

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Post by swissvale72 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:24 pm

I'm glad they're calling out these incompetent, striped-ass mother fuckers. Offside on a FG attempt?? Bull-fuckin-shit!!

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