Warren Shames Pickens

[meanjustinbarlow]

God I should hate public bickering, but I hate Pickens so much at this point that I love seeing this:


https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/12/20/steel ... cking-fail


When asked about Pickens not blocking for him for fear of injury.

“It is what it is,” Warren said, per Ray Fittipaldo of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “At the end of the day, [Pickens] was doing what he thought was best for him. Some people play the game differently. If I was in that position, I would have blocked for him. But we play differently.”

[jeemie]

Faulkner supposedly shamed him in the film room yesterday.

[jebrick]

But if he has no shame....

[alancac98]

Faulkner supposedly shamed him in the film room yesterday.

What good is shaming him in the film room. They should have told him that he can sit his ass on the sidelines and watch the game from there! Then look at him and say "Fuck You!"

[Ovie]

Faulkner supposedly shamed him in the film room yesterday.

What good is shaming him in the film room. They should have told him that he can sit his ass on the sidelines and watch the game from there! Then look at him and say "Fuck You!"

Or tell everyone he's benched because the staff is concerned about him getting hurt, so they wanted to respect his wishes and benched him to keep him safe.

[jeemie]

Faulkner supposedly shamed him in the film room yesterday.

What good is shaming him in the film room. They should have told him that he can sit his ass on the sidelines and watch the game from there! Then look at him and say "Fuck You!"

Sorry I should have said in the offensive room where everyone was watching film.

So Pickens was called out in front of the entire offense.

[bradshaw2ben]

Faulkner supposedly shamed him in the film room yesterday.

What good is shaming him in the film room. They should have told him that he can sit his ass on the sidelines and watch the game from there! Then look at him and say "Fuck You!"

But but NHALS!!! Still in the playoff hunt!!!

[franco32]

Everyone is focused on Pickens, but DJ is in that club too. I've seen a lot of players on this team taking plays or part of plays off. I've seen Freiermuth do it. I've seen Larry O and Leal do it. JPJ makes business decisions about his body all the time.

It's the culture. If you have to discipline people in December about their effort (on a team fighting for a playoff spot), then your coaching staff has failed miserably in setting the tone.

[Orangesteel]

Everyone is focused on Pickens, but DJ is in that club too. I've seen a lot of players on this team taking plays or part of plays off. I've seen Freiermuth do it. I've seen Larry O and Leal do it. JPJ makes business decisions about his body all the time.

It's the culture. If you have to discipline people in December about their effort (on a team fighting for a playoff spot), then your coaching staff has failed miserably in setting the tone.

This. Pickens probably sees film of other guys doing it, more senior guys, and says “why the hell am I going to put my ass on the line if others aren’t???”

It’s a COACHING issue and it’s creating systemic problems.

Where are all of the Tomlin guys to defend him? Have they left the message board completely?

[franco32]

Everyone is focused on Pickens, but DJ is in that club too. I've seen a lot of players on this team taking plays or part of plays off. I've seen Freiermuth do it. I've seen Larry O and Leal do it. JPJ makes business decisions about his body all the time.

It's the culture. If you have to discipline people in December about their effort (on a team fighting for a playoff spot), then your coaching staff has failed miserably in setting the tone.

This. Pickens probably sees film of other guys doing it, more senior guys, and says “why the hell am I going to put my ass on the line if others aren’t???”

It’s a COACHING issue and it’s creating systemic problems.

Where are all of the Tomlin guys to defend him? Have they left the message board completely?

I can't speak for them lately, and apologies if I'm mistaken, but aren't Smashmouth and Texas somewhat supportive of Tomlin still?

[franco32]

Also, I think it was STD that thought Rooney could just force an OC on Tomlin and that might possibly work.

I think the cancer has to be attacked at the top. Mikey has to go and a whole new staff hired.

[Stosh-67]

Everyone is focused on Pickens, but DJ is in that club too. I've seen a lot of players on this team taking plays or part of plays off. I've seen Freiermuth do it. I've seen Larry O and Leal do it. JPJ makes business decisions about his body all the time.

It's the culture. If you have to discipline people in December about their effort (on a team fighting for a playoff spot), then your coaching staff has failed miserably in setting the tone.

Yup.
Its spreading.
Coach has lost this team.
Lets see if he can get it back on Saturday........
For a quarter or two anyway.

I can not recall another season in my Steeler memory in which I saw multiple players taking plays off.
It did not start this year......many seem to think Bush took off plays, avoided injury.

[Jobu]

Everyone is focused on Pickens, but DJ is in that club too. I've seen a lot of players on this team taking plays or part of plays off. I've seen Freiermuth do it. I've seen Larry O and Leal do it. JPJ makes business decisions about his body all the time.

It's the culture. If you have to discipline people in December about their effort (on a team fighting for a playoff spot), then your coaching staff has failed miserably in setting the tone.

Yup.
Its spreading.
Coach has lost this team.
Lets see if he can get it back on Saturday........
For a quarter or two anyway.

I can not recall another season in my Steeler memory in which I saw multiple players taking plays off.
It did not start this year......many seem to think Bush took off plays, avoided injury.

Bush took games off.

[beerbrother]

Faulkner supposedly shamed him in the film room yesterday.

What good is shaming him in the film room. They should have told him that he can sit his ass on the sidelines and watch the game from there! Then look at him and say "Fuck You!"

Or tell everyone he's benched because the staff is concerned about him getting hurt, so they wanted to respect his wishes and benched him to keep him safe.

If he injures his vagina it might really hurt.

[langer]

coughjason gildongcoughcough

[Works At A Bank]

I love that Warren was calling him out like that. This team is a dumpster fire. Tomlin has been skidding and keeping the car out of the ditch but the wheels are officially off this jalopy and he’s driving it into a brick wall.

If Jibbs is still with the PS in 2024 - it’ll only get worse. Remember back when Tomlin was taunting we don’t want any hostages…now the crazies are running the insane asylum.

[langer]

Now Coach Mike is the hostage.

[CKSteeler]

I remember people defending the decision to keep trotting Devin Bush out on the field. I said it was setting a terrible example for the entire team.

Not saying Bush is the reason these guys think they can get away with it, but Devin Bush certainly proved that you could mail it in, sickeningly avoiding contact as a fucking LB, and this coaching staff would keep playing you because of your draft position.

And all those people claiming Bush was still better than his back-ups can eff off. Spillane is putting up a better season than any Steelers ILB since Shazier this year on another team. Even if Bush were actually better, and he sure as shit wasn't regardless of what athletic ability he may have, it was a real shitty example and slap in the face to guys like Watt and Heyward.

I know Tomlin still has buy in from his top guys like Watt and Heyward, but fuck if I understand it. I would have taken one look at the choice to keep playing Bush and said fuck you, Mike.

[955876]

I know Tomlin still has buy in from his top guys like Watt and Heyward, but fuck if I understand it. I would have taken one look at the choice to keep playing Bush and said fuck you, Mike.

A fair point.

Another fair point would be why do veterans such as Watt and especially Heyward allow that sort of pathetic effort from guys like Bush?

Isn’t father Heyward the most responsible on D to pass down the “Steeler Way”? It’s on them as much as it is Tomlin. They are his peers. They have to look each other in the eye in the huddle.

If I’m out there banging heads all game and you are prancing around behind me avoiding contact ima have a problem with your ass and will certainly say something.

Especially as the senior member of the defense.

He isn’t blameless.

[Rod & Wire Mill]

I remember people defending the decision to keep trotting Devin Bush out on the field. I said it was setting a terrible example for the entire team.

Not saying Bush is the reason these guys think they can get away with it, but Devin Bush certainly proved that you could mail it in, sickeningly avoiding contact as a fucking LB, and this coaching staff would keep playing you because of your draft position.

And all those people claiming Bush was still better than his back-ups can eff off. Spillane is putting up a better season than any Steelers ILB since Shazier this year on another team. Even if Bush were actually better, and he sure as shit wasn't regardless of what athletic ability he may have, it was a real shitty example and slap in the face to guys like Watt and Heyward.

I know Tomlin still has buy in from his top guys like Watt and Heyward, but fuck if I understand it. I would have taken one look at the choice to keep playing Bush and said fuck you, Mike.

Very much agree with this sentiment.

[CoolShades]

I know Tomlin still has buy in from his top guys like Watt and Heyward, but fuck if I understand it. I would have taken one look at the choice to keep playing Bush and said fuck you, Mike.

A fair point.

Another fair point would be why do veterans such as Watt and especially Heyward allow that sort of pathetic effort from guys like Bush?

Isn’t father Heyward the most responsible on D to pass down the “Steeler Way”? It’s on them as much as it is Tomlin. They are his peers. They have to look each other in the eye in the huddle.

If I’m out there banging heads all game and you are prancing around behind me avoiding contact ima have a problem with your ass and will certainly say something.

Especially as the senior member of the defense.

He isn’t blameless.

Does Tomlin really have buy in from Cam and TJ? Or at this point in their careers, are they both playing politics?

TJ and especially Cam have been around Tomlin for a long time. Maybe they know it’s pointless to go after someone that is a Tomlin pet.

I think those guys are going to look at their barren fingers after they retire and regret not speaking up.

[breeze]

Why is it that the WR position attracts these types? What happened to the Larry Fitzgerald, Megatron, Ward, Holt, receivers? Michael Irvin was as flamboyant as anyone but he always came to play and went hard. Seems like a generational thing happening as the game as shifted from RB dependent to WR dependent.

[Gonzo]

Pickens really should be benched at least a game
Odd to me that he isn’t

[Gonzo]

I guess that’s why you don’t bench him;)

[jeemie]

Warren is a special dude.

Not only did he say what he would do if the situation was reversed, he then went out on the field and backed it up.

If his block on Austin's touchdown isn't playing on a continuous loop in the film room all this week, Mike Tomlin is an idiot.