Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley

[TimmayLake]

Shipley was a 7th round pick…

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-fraz ... 3254a7b4f6

Think this was a bit of a reach pick?

[Stillchest]

Shipley was a 7th round pick…

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-fraz ... 3254a7b4f6

Think this was a bit of a reach pick?

Hopefully, only from a measurables standpoint.

I'm hoping Frazier is more football functional at the NFL level than A.Q.

This team had many holes to fill, a result of not drafting and developing well enough.

[Stosh-67]

No.

Bigger than AQ.
2+ " Taller.
Bit heavier.
This kid hands are almost 11"
4 year starter.

Day 1 Starter.

[TimmayLake]

Analysis
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
Draft Projection
Round 3
NFL Comparison
A.Q. Shipley

[anpsteel]

I’ll trust Weidl over lance zierlein, 100 out of 100 times


Also, who exactly do you suppose is playing Center next season, if you don’t take Frazier there?


Last, they are ridiculously fortunate that he fell this far.

Almost every draft simulator had the top 3 centers gone by 2.51

[RemoAZ]

Pre-Draft Analysis
Frazier is a four-year starter and three-time team captain who played center and guard at West Virginia. He was a four-time heavyweight wrestling champion in high school, and he's tough to beat once he locks onto defenders with his big hands. He has the quickness to reach and seal defenders on zone runs. Frazier has a nasty disposition and good finishing power. He gets set quickly, has a strong punch and anchors well in pass protection. -- Steve Muench

Matt Miller's pro comp: Creed Humphrey

[ironzabo]

Frazier might well be the steal of the entire haul at this slot.

My man Andy

[Suwanee88]

When the Stiller’s drafted Pat Freirmuth a few years ago, I was screaming Creed Humphrey at the TV….so to see Muth announce Frazier as our next starting Center…..bizarre.

I have to admit, I was leaning A Mitchell when this pick was announced, but I am happy. He’s gonna be a good one!

[LakecrestSteeler]

No.

Bigger than AQ.
2+ " Taller.
Bit heavier.
This kid hands are almost 11"
4 year starter.

Day 1 Starter.

Carlton Haselrig meets Maurkice Pouncey.

Not quite the wrestling chops as Haselrig, but 4 time heavyweight state champion is pretty impressive. Who knows what would have happened if he would have stuck with wrestling. Also bigger than Haselrig.

Haselrig never played football until the Steelers and became an All Pro.

Guessing Frazier playing football all through high school and a 4 year starter in college plus his chops as a heavyweight wrestler will serve him pretty well in the NFL.

[Mick]

Main notable thing about shipley was 29” arms. Frazier is 32” and a bit? Not in the same universe there.

[Obviously]

One of the best measureables is what STD thinks of him. STD hates him so you know he's gonna be great.

[bradshaw2ben]

I would, however, like to point out that AQ Shipley had 72 starts in a 9-year NFL career... meaning he wasn't terrible.

[bradshaw2ben]

One of the best measureables is what STD thinks of him. STD hates him so you know he's gonna be great.

Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.

[Obviously]

One of the best measureables is what STD thinks of him. STD hates him so you know he's gonna be great.

Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.

Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.

[bradshaw2ben]

One of the best measureables is what STD thinks of him. STD hates him so you know he's gonna be great.

Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.

Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.

Mason Rudolph

[Jobu]

In no universe is Zach Frazier’s NFL equivalent AQ Shipley.

[Charles Demarr]

Shipley was a 7th round pick…

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-fraz ... 3254a7b4f6

Think this was a bit of a reach pick?

Now go back and look at all the shit projections and comps Lance has done over the past few years.

[zeke5123]

One of the best measureables is what STD thinks of him. STD hates him so you know he's gonna be great.

Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.

Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.

Literally the last guy he has been right about and has been searching for that high ever since.

[Pabst]

Shipley was a 7th round pick…

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-fraz ... 3254a7b4f6

Think this was a bit of a reach pick?

Now go back and look at all the shit projections and comps Lance has done over the past few years.

Ah, draft season. Where everyone cherry picks the two or three guys they liked that turned out great but glosses over the other 20 that were total busts.

[Havoc]

Pre-Draft Analysis
Frazier is a four-year starter and three-time team captain who played center and guard at West Virginia. He was a four-time heavyweight wrestling champion in high school, and he's tough to beat once he locks onto defenders with his big hands. He has the quickness to reach and seal defenders on zone runs. Frazier has a nasty disposition and good finishing power. He gets set quickly, has a strong punch and anchors well in pass protection. -- Steve Muench

Matt Miller's pro comp: Creed Humphrey

The championship wrestling background is interesting.

So, he's not just a straight line athlete (not a good fit for the center position) like the desperate draft pick Greene.

The championship wrestling background means he probably has some level of natural awareness, body control, some natural ability to know how to leverage his body.

We shall see if he can play in the NFL at a high level.

[SteelerDayTrader]

I’m not a big Frazier fan

I would’ve been able to be more hopeful about him quicker if he was pick 98 or 119

If the Steelers put solid OG play next to him he should be good enough most of the time

At 51 it seems like the same kind of lazy homer draft/scouting that got us Kenny Touchdown

But he’s a Steeler now so I am rooting for him

[Obviously]

Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.

Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.

Mason Rudolph

Mason was really never given a chance until last season where he was pretty good. He'll never be Ben or maybe even Justin Fields but I would not have protested if he were kept on as a backup.

[Mick]

Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.

Mason Rudolph

Mason was really never given a chance until last season where he was pretty good. He'll never be Ben or maybe even Justin Fields but I would not have protested if he were kept on as a backup.

how did rudolph not get a chance his 2nd year?

[.Kodiak]

Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.

Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.

Mason Rudolph

Isaac Redman.

And not KC, but the "board" biggest miss might be Mapletron Soft like syrup

[Obviously]

Mason Rudolph

Mason was really never given a chance until last season where he was pretty good. He'll never be Ben or maybe even Justin Fields but I would not have protested if he were kept on as a backup.

how did rudolph not get a chance his 2nd year?

If you're talking about 2019, he got hurt.

[anpsteel]

Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.

Mason Rudolph

Isaac Redman.

And not KC, but the "board" biggest miss might be Mapletron Soft like syrup

He's a top 3 receiver in the league.

[Pabst]

Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.

Mason Rudolph

Isaac Redman.

And not KC, but the "board" biggest miss might be Mapletron Soft like syrup

This board was all about Karl Joseph in 2016

[SteelerDayTrader]

If the Steelers put solid OG play next to him he should be good enough most of the time

Your welcome

[Charles Demarr]

Shipley was a 7th round pick…

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-fraz ... 3254a7b4f6

Think this was a bit of a reach pick?

Now go back and look at all the shit projections and comps Lance has done over the past few years.

Ah, draft season. Where everyone cherry picks the two or three guys they liked that turned out great but glosses over the other 20 that were total busts.

Yeah… there are a couple of “experts” on this site that are notorious for this.