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Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:48 am
by TimmayLake
Shipley was a 7th round pick…
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-fraz ... 3254a7b4f6
Think this was a bit of a reach pick?
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:51 am
by Stillchest
Hopefully, only from a measurables standpoint.
I'm hoping Frazier is more football functional at the NFL level than A.Q.
This team had many holes to fill, a result of not drafting and developing well enough.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:52 am
by Stosh-67
No.
Bigger than AQ.
2+ " Taller.
Bit heavier.
This kid hands are almost 11"
4 year starter.
Day 1 Starter.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:53 am
by TimmayLake
Analysis
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
Draft Projection
Round 3
NFL Comparison
A.Q. Shipley
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:18 am
by anpsteel
I’ll trust Weidl over lance zierlein, 100 out of 100 times
Also, who exactly do you suppose is playing Center next season, if you don’t take Frazier there?
Last, they are ridiculously fortunate that he fell this far.
Almost every draft simulator had the top 3 centers gone by 2.51
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:59 am
by RemoAZ
Pre-Draft Analysis
Frazier is a four-year starter and three-time team captain who played center and guard at West Virginia. He was a four-time heavyweight wrestling champion in high school, and he's tough to beat once he locks onto defenders with his big hands. He has the quickness to reach and seal defenders on zone runs. Frazier has a nasty disposition and good finishing power. He gets set quickly, has a strong punch and anchors well in pass protection. -- Steve Muench
Matt Miller's pro comp: Creed Humphrey
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:32 am
by ironzabo
Frazier might well be the steal of the entire haul at this slot.
My man Andy
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:59 am
by Suwanee88
When the Stiller’s drafted Pat Freirmuth a few years ago, I was screaming Creed Humphrey at the TV….so to see Muth announce Frazier as our next starting Center…..bizarre.
I have to admit, I was leaning A Mitchell when this pick was announced, but I am happy. He’s gonna be a good one!
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:01 am
by LakecrestSteeler
Stosh-67 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:52 am
No.
Bigger than AQ.
2+ " Taller.
Bit heavier.
This kid hands are almost 11"
4 year starter.
Day 1 Starter.
Carlton Haselrig meets Maurkice Pouncey.
Not quite the wrestling chops as Haselrig, but 4 time heavyweight state champion is pretty impressive. Who knows what would have happened if he would have stuck with wrestling. Also bigger than Haselrig.
Haselrig never played football until the Steelers and became an All Pro.
Guessing Frazier playing football all through high school and a 4 year starter in college plus his chops as a heavyweight wrestler will serve him pretty well in the NFL.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:40 am
by Mick
Main notable thing about shipley was 29” arms. Frazier is 32” and a bit? Not in the same universe there.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:38 pm
by Obviously
One of the best measureables is what STD thinks of him. STD hates him so you know he's gonna be great.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:39 pm
by bradshaw2ben
I would, however, like to point out that AQ Shipley had 72 starts in a 9-year NFL career... meaning he wasn't terrible.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:39 pm
by bradshaw2ben
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:38 pm
One of the best measureables is what STD thinks of him. STD hates him so you know he's gonna be great.
Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:49 pm
by Obviously
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:39 pm
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:38 pm
One of the best measureables is what STD thinks of him. STD hates him so you know he's gonna be great.
Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.
Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:00 pm
by bradshaw2ben
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:49 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:39 pm
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:38 pm
One of the best measureables is what STD thinks of him. STD hates him so you know he's gonna be great.
Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.
Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.
Mason Rudolph
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:19 pm
by Jobu
In no universe is Zach Frazier’s NFL equivalent AQ Shipley.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:28 pm
by Charles Demarr
Now go back and look at all the shit projections and comps Lance has done over the past few years.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:53 pm
by zeke5123
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:49 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:39 pm
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:38 pm
One of the best measureables is what STD thinks of him. STD hates him so you know he's gonna be great.
Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.
Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.
Literally the last guy he has been right about and has been searching for that high ever since.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:09 pm
by Pabst
Charles Demarr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:28 pm
Now go back and look at all the shit projections and comps Lance has done over the past few years.
Ah, draft season. Where everyone cherry picks the two or three guys they liked that turned out great but glosses over the other 20 that were total busts.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:52 pm
by Havoc
RemoAZ wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:59 am
Pre-Draft Analysis
Frazier is a four-year starter and three-time team captain who played center and guard at West Virginia. He was a four-time heavyweight wrestling champion in high school, and he's tough to beat once he locks onto defenders with his big hands. He has the quickness to reach and seal defenders on zone runs. Frazier has a nasty disposition and good finishing power. He gets set quickly, has a strong punch and anchors well in pass protection. -- Steve Muench
Matt Miller's pro comp: Creed Humphrey
The championship wrestling background is interesting.
So, he's not just a straight line athlete (not a good fit for the center position) like the desperate draft pick Greene.
The championship wrestling background means he probably has some level of natural awareness, body control, some natural ability to know how to leverage his body.
We shall see if he can play in the NFL at a high level.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm
by SteelerDayTrader
I’m not a big Frazier fan
I would’ve been able to be more hopeful about him quicker if he was pick 98 or 119
If the Steelers put solid OG play next to him he should be good enough most of the time
At 51 it seems like the same kind of lazy homer draft/scouting that got us Kenny Touchdown
But he’s a Steeler now so I am rooting for him
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:56 pm
by Obviously
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:00 pm
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:49 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:39 pm
Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.
Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.
Mason Rudolph
Mason was really never given a chance until last season where he was pretty good. He'll never be Ben or maybe even Justin Fields but I would not have protested if he were kept on as a backup.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:08 pm
by Mick
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:56 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:00 pm
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:49 pm
Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.
Mason Rudolph
Mason was really never given a chance until last season where he was pretty good. He'll never be Ben or maybe even Justin Fields but I would not have protested if he were kept on as a backup.
how did rudolph not get a chance his 2nd year?
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:44 pm
by .Kodiak
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:00 pm
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:49 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:39 pm
Yeah, if you're going to use that kind of an argument... KC loves Roman Wilson.
Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.
Mason Rudolph
Isaac Redman.
And not KC, but the "board" biggest miss might be Mapletron
Soft like syrup
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:51 pm
by Obviously
Mick wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:08 pm
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:56 pm
Mason was really never given a chance until last season where he was pretty good. He'll never be Ben or maybe even Justin Fields but I would not have protested if he were kept on as a backup.
how did rudolph not get a chance his 2nd year?
If you're talking about 2019, he got hurt.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:03 pm
by anpsteel
.Kodiak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:44 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:00 pm
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:49 pm
Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.
Mason Rudolph
Isaac Redman.
And not KC, but the "board" biggest miss might be Mapletron
Soft like syrup
He's a top 3 receiver in the league.
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:18 pm
by Pabst
.Kodiak wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:44 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:00 pm
Obviously wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:49 pm
Don't know about KC's record except for with Pickett. Well Cotchery was pretty good for the Steelers.
Mason Rudolph
Isaac Redman.
And not KC, but the "board" biggest miss might be Mapletron
Soft like syrup
This board was all about Karl Joseph in 2016
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:24 pm
by SteelerDayTrader
SteelerDayTrader wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm
If the Steelers put solid OG play next to him he should be good enough most of the time
Your welcome
Re: Zach Fraziers comp is AQ Shipley
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:27 pm
by Charles Demarr
Pabst wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:09 pm
Charles Demarr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:28 pm
Now go back and look at all the shit projections and comps Lance has done over the past few years.
Ah, draft season. Where everyone cherry picks the two or three guys they liked that turned out great but glosses over the other 20 that were total busts.
Yeah… there are a couple of “experts” on this site that are notorious for this.
