Steelers Training Camp Schedule & Questions

[Steel Bingo]

NOTES AND OBSERVATIONS: The "starting" offensive line was: (left to right) Dan Moore Jr., Isaac Seumalo, Nate Herbig, James Daniels, and Broderick Jones. The No. 2 offensive line was: (left to right) Dylan Cook, Mason McCormick, Zach Frazier, Spencer Anderson, and Troy Fautanu … Rookie free agent running back Daijun Edwards flashed some burst on a couple of running plays during the padless, non-contact practice
https://www.steelers.com/news/training- ... rt-july-25

Keep Jones at RT where he got most of his experience last season, iirc.

Allow Fautanu some time to acclimate to the NFL, while also giving D. Moore, Jr. a chance to build his trade value. Trade DM, Jr. and then allow Fautanu to play LT, where he was the best lineman on college football's best line last year.

That'd makes sense from my perspective. Just have to hope that Moore, Jr. does not get Russ crumpled during the start-up. Think I saw something where he was rated as one of the worst pass blocking Offensive Tackle last season.

[anpsteel]

Yeah Larry O sucks goat balls.
Terrible decision to extend that dude.
If Benton goes down, yinzers are looking at the worst DL in the NFL.

I agree with the poster concerned about the probability of once upon time B2B draft crush Cordarrelle Patterson to make it through the season.
Few weeks back I read a blurb where he declared himself like 30% healthy or some crazy shit.
Now he's out with a hamstring.

GEORGIA UDFA RB Daijun Edwards is going to impress on special teams and make the Steelers roster.
Book it, Dano.

I honestly haven't been this excited for the pre-season in years.

Russ
Fields

Two dogs
One bone.

Jebrick mentioned in a draft thread that one will be signed after the season to be a bridge QB
But which one?

And which College QB are they are bridging for?

Much like the Steelers' preseason, I can't remember EVER being this excited for a college football season.

12 team playoff
Conference realignment
GO DAWGS
ROLL TIDE

JUSTIN case Iron_City_ is here incognito:

[W&M_Steeler]

Something I don’t understand…

If Rusty Wilson does turn it up this year why the hell couldn’t we afford him? Who are we paying right now that would make it so we can’t afford him? If you reply with a bunch of guys on defense, my retort will be to cut all of those overpaid under-achieving assholes that are part of a defense that hasn’t done shit for this franchise in terms of playoff performance in ages.

And yes I’m talking about guys like Watt, Minkah, etc. They will be a year older. If Wilson seems to have a couple of good seasons left then I’d sign him unless they are in love with 2-3 prospects in the draft.

And we all remember the “love” they had for Kenny (HA!) coming out so I’m not even sure about that.

I'd think they could re-sign Russ (or JF) if one of them proves to be worth it yet still keep useful vets like Watt and Minkah. Don't re-sign Cam, don't spend a fortune on a WR, and devote that cap space to QB.

[PennyBacker]

NOTES AND OBSERVATIONS: The "starting" offensive line was: (left to right) Dan Moore Jr., Isaac Seumalo, Nate Herbig, James Daniels, and Broderick Jones. The No. 2 offensive line was: (left to right) Dylan Cook, Mason McCormick, Zach Frazier, Spencer Anderson, and Troy Fautanu … Rookie free agent running back Daijun Edwards flashed some burst on a couple of running plays during the padless, non-contact practice
https://www.steelers.com/news/training- ... rt-july-25

Keep Jones at RT where he got most of his experience last season, iirc.

Allow Fautanu some time to acclimate to the NFL, while also giving D. Moore, Jr. a chance to build his trade value. Trade DM, Jr. and then allow Fautanu to play LT, where he was the best lineman on college football's best line last year.

That'd makes sense from my perspective. Just have to hope that Moore, Jr. does not get Russ crumpled during the start-up. Think I saw something where he was rated as one of the worst pass blocking Offensive Tackle last season.

Left Tackle in general was a problem spot last year, not just Dan Moore, Jr. Jones in his first start there helped to get KP knocked out of the Texans game with a knee injury.

Pittsburgh drafted the best LT in the '24 draft. I hope he sees time at the position there, also.

[bradshaw2ben]

Keep Jones at RT where he got most of his experience last season, iirc.

Allow Fautanu some time to acclimate to the NFL, while also giving D. Moore, Jr. a chance to build his trade value. Trade DM, Jr. and then allow Fautanu to play LT, where he was the best lineman on college football's best line last year.

That'd makes sense from my perspective. Just have to hope that Moore, Jr. does not get Russ crumpled during the start-up. Think I saw something where he was rated as one of the worst pass blocking Offensive Tackle last season.

Left Tackle in general was a problem spot last year, not just Dan Moore, Jr. Jones in his first start there helped to get KP knocked out of the Texans game with a knee injury.

Pittsburgh drafted the best LT in the '24 draft. I hope he sees time at the position there, also.

IMO this is about Broderick Jones' ego. All NFL OL should be about putting the best 5 on the field and figuring out how to play wherever and with whomever they need to to get the job done. If I had to bet on which combo was more likely to be better than good, it'd be Fautanu at LT & Jones at RT vs the other way around.

[gojira5150]

I really hope the Steelers start Justin (to see what he has). Yes I know it's one pass in training camp, but man-o-man he has a Canon of an arm. That throw yesterday was awesome. Is there a QB in the upcoming draft that has an arm like Justin and his crazy athletic ability. He finally will have talent around him. When he got DJ Moore he got better. He's only 25y/o.

[Orangesteel]

Fields definitely flashes but it’s the equivalent to hitting it so pure on the driving range then heading out to the first tee and shitting all over your shoes.

Fields is a monster athlete for sure but we all know the limitations. Nothing can top a pocket passer that can throw dimes when guys like Chris Jones and Aaron Donald are crashing down.

I think the Steelers have a unique opportunity this season to really throw some crazy packages out there that will move the ball and confuse defenses. But please please please be honest Kahn and Tomlin; Fields isn’t the future.

[tbsteel]

Personal speculation, Wilson is more week-to-week than day-to-day. He's gimpy as hell in this video from today:

https://x.com/MarkKaboly/status/1816896 ... 29/video/1

[gojira5150]

Fields definitely flashes but it’s the equivalent to hitting it so pure on the driving range then heading out to the first tee and shitting all over your shoes.

Fields is a monster athlete for sure but we all know the limitations. Nothing can top a pocket passer that can throw dimes when guys like Chris Jones and Aaron Donald are crashing down.

I think the Steelers have a unique opportunity this season to really throw some crazy packages out there that will move the ball and confuse defenses. But please please please be honest Kahn and Tomlin; Fields isn’t the future.

Then who will be the future? As we all know here, NHALS is Cool Breezes goal 1st & foremost so that means we will not be picking in the top 10. So, if Steelers are picking where they normally are (18-25), are we fine with Drafting say Quinn Ewers. Is he better than Fields. Has he got a bigger arm, crazy athleticism? We have NO idea how any of these QB's drafting next year will be like in the NFL. Fields has had success and was much better when they finally got a real NFL caliber WR (DJ Moore).

[Orangesteel]

Personal speculation, Wilson is more week-to-week than day-to-day. He's gimpy as hell in this video from today:

https://x.com/MarkKaboly/status/1816896 ... 29/video/1

Meh. If it was bad they wouldn’t even have him doing that, no?

[zeke5123]

Something I don’t understand…

If Rusty Wilson does turn it up this year why the hell couldn’t we afford him? Who are we paying right now that would make it so we can’t afford him? If you reply with a bunch of guys on defense, my retort will be to cut all of those overpaid under-achieving assholes that are part of a defense that hasn’t done shit for this franchise in terms of playoff performance in ages.

And yes I’m talking about guys like Watt, Minkah, etc. They will be a year older. If Wilson seems to have a couple of good seasons left then I’d sign him unless they are in love with 2-3 prospects in the draft.

And we all remember the “love” they had for Kenny (HA!) coming out so I’m not even sure about that.

I'd think they could re-sign Russ (or JF) if one of them proves to be worth it yet still keep useful vets like Watt and Minkah. Don't re-sign Cam, don't spend a fortune on a WR, and devote that cap space to QB.

Cam frees up space. There are ways to find money instead of cutting a DPOY player in Watt (who should’ve won it last year).

[anpsteel]

I really hope the Steelers start Justin (to see what he has). Yes I know it's one pass in training camp, but man-o-man he has a Canon of an arm. That throw yesterday was awesome. Is there a QB in the upcoming draft that has an arm like Justin and his crazy athletic ability. He finally will have talent around him. When he got DJ Moore he got better. He's only 25y/o.

From what I’ve read, minus the few long passes, he hasn’t been good

He’s completed about 50% of his passes.

That’s in a situation without contact

His backup on the other hand has apparently looked really good

[zeke5123]

I really hope the Steelers start Justin (to see what he has). Yes I know it's one pass in training camp, but man-o-man he has a Canon of an arm. That throw yesterday was awesome. Is there a QB in the upcoming draft that has an arm like Justin and his crazy athletic ability. He finally will have talent around him. When he got DJ Moore he got better. He's only 25y/o.

From what I’ve read, minus the few long passes, he hasn’t been good

He’s completed about 50% of his passes.

That’s in a situation without contact

His backup on the other hand has apparently looked really good

Isn’t that par for the course for Fields? Makes a few big splash plays. Is otherwise well below the line. Better than Pickett but still not good.

[anpsteel]

So I was just reading that Dan Moore has stayed at LT, and Jones and Fautanu have alternated at RT


This coaching staff is seriously fucking retarded

I love that you use 2 consecutive 1st round picks (one of which you used multiple picks because you traded up) - anyway 2 first round picks - and both are playing out of position- meanwhile you still have the shitty LT still playing in that position- that is the problem to start with

Fucking more stupid, they could not be

[bradshaw2ben]

Listen—this week was no pads and barely camp. It was largely the vets showing the noobs how practice is done. It means less than last year’s preseason.

Otherwise, we’d be acknowledging that Kyle Allen is by far the best QB on this team and Payton Wilson is going to be all-pro in year 1.

[Ice]

Wait, we're not acknowledging that?

[Deebo]

Listen—this week was no pads and barely camp. It was largely the vets showing the noobs how practice is done. It means less than last year’s preseason.

Otherwise, we’d be acknowledging that Kyle Allen is by far the best QB on this team and Payton Wilson is going to be all-pro in year 1.

So you're saying nothing was learned from last camp where the entire team was pre-season champs?

[anpsteel]

Listen—this week was no pads and barely camp. It was largely the vets showing the noobs how practice is done. It means less than last year’s preseason.

Otherwise, we’d be acknowledging that Kyle Allen is by far the best QB on this team and Payton Wilson is going to be all-pro in year 1.

I get it, and yes, it was likely an over reaction on my part, but it feels like the continuance of the Tomlin standard.


I've come back off the ledge

Thanks

[Mick]

Listen—this week was no pads and barely camp. It was largely the vets showing the noobs how practice is done. It means less than last year’s preseason.

Otherwise, we’d be acknowledging that Kyle Allen is by far the best QB on this team and Payton Wilson is going to be all-pro in year 1.

I mean, the conclusion would be

Kyle Allen + backup offense going against backup defense >>> Justin Fields + starting offense going against starting defense.

I’m perplexed if anyone finds that reality to be surprising in some way.

[bradshaw2ben]

Listen—this week was no pads and barely camp. It was largely the vets showing the noobs how practice is done. It means less than last year’s preseason.

Otherwise, we’d be acknowledging that Kyle Allen is by far the best QB on this team and Payton Wilson is going to be all-pro in year 1.

I mean, the conclusion would be

Kyle Allen + backup offense going against backup defense >>> Justin Fields + starting offense going against starting defense.

I’m perplexed if anyone finds that reality to be surprising in some way.

We'll get a better feel for it when Justin Fields is leading the same offense Kyle Allen was leading vs the 2nd teamers... but, of course Allen should be playing well. He's been around the block and is not a terrible backup.

[jebrick]

I think the media has Payton Wilson already fitted for his HOF jacket.

I have lower expectations due to trying to fit 2 rookies into the OLine and moving another one to the other side. Plus adding a new offense. this would be a great season to have 5 preseason games.

[bradshaw2ben]

And you watch-- they'll barely play Russ in preseason. They'll trot out Fields and gameplan like it's the Super Bowl.

Then week 1 comes and they'll look lost for 3 quarters while they "get up to speed" and "shake off the rust".

[Jobu]

And you watch-- they'll barely play Russ in preseason. They'll trot out Fields and gameplan like it's the Super Bowl.

Then week 1 comes and they'll look lost for 3 quarters while they "get up to speed" and "shake off the rust".

Just easing in…

[Orangesteel]

And you watch-- they'll barely play Russ in preseason. They'll trot out Fields and gameplan like it's the Super Bowl.

Then week 1 comes and they'll look lost for 3 quarters while they "get up to speed" and "shake off the rust".

FWIW, Wilson has historically played large chunks of preseason games. That was under Carroll, so might not apply to what we know Tomlin likes to do.

Pickett played a lot in the preseason last year. Remember we all thought we were going to the Super Bowl? I’d say if it’s up to Russ then he will play the first two quarters of the first two games. Mike Tomlin might stop that shit dead in its tracks.

[jebrick]

I am going to be worried next week if Moore is still at LT and Jones at RT.

[DP39]

I am going to be worried next week if Moore is still at LT and Jones at RT.

Could they be giving him more run there to build up his perceived value (look, he's SO good our 1st rounders couldn't supplant him) -- as a viable LT via trade within the next month or so? hmm....

[daikyu]

I think you are reading too much into this. The team has said Moore is a poor RT (not in those words). Jones is a good RT. If the new guy, Fantanu (sp?) can't get up to speed at RT they will wait until he can take over at RT before moving Jones to LT.

I am going to be worried next week if Moore is still at LT and Jones at RT.

Could they be giving him more run there to build up his perceived value (look, he's SO good our 1st rounders couldn't supplant him) -- as a viable LT via trade within the next month or so? hmm....

[DP39]

I think you are reading too much into this. The team has said Moore is a poor RT (not in those words). Jones is a good RT. If the new guy, Fantanu (sp?) can't get up to speed at RT they will wait until he can take over at RT before moving Jones to LT.

I am going to be worried next week if Moore is still at LT and Jones at RT.

Could they be giving him more run there to build up his perceived value (look, he's SO good our 1st rounders couldn't supplant him) -- as a viable LT via trade within the next month or so? hmm....

I don't disagree with what you've stated, and also feel it's the most likely answer. But, I was just throwing out the possibility (maybe 5-10%) of trading him while currently trying to increase his value....in the process of what you stated playing out, that is.

[Mick]

OT3, CB4, and WR3, officially or not, are starting jobs in the NFL.

[RemoAZ]

And you watch-- they'll barely play Russ in preseason. They'll trot out Fields and gameplan like it's the Super Bowl.

Then week 1 comes and they'll look lost for 3 quarters while they "get up to speed" and "shake off the rust".

Ever year with Ben the 2nd half of his career. He and the offense didn't start looking good until the 3rd or 4th game. If it's broke, Tomlin just ignores it.