Tua Tagovailoa is worth $53m p/yr ??

[anpsteel]

1, better than average player is worth 20% of the total cap allowance?


gtfoh

No way

Does that make less than average Justin Fields worth $20m-$30m p/yr??


The league, and honestly players at every other position, need to get this shit figured out as part of the next bargaining agreement

[Stlcrtn1974]

1, better than average player is worth 20% of the total cap allowance?


gtfoh

No way

Does that make less than average Justin Fields worth $20m-$30m p/yr??


The league, and honestly players at every other position, need to get this shit figured out as part of the next bargaining agreement

This goes to show you how bad the NFL is now. With all the rule changes to benefit the qb's and this bum gets that much money. I never thought my interest in football would be dropping but it is.

[BouldernBun]

1, better than average player is worth 20% of the total cap allowance?


gtfoh

No way

Does that make less than average Justin Fields worth $20m-$30m p/yr??


The league, and honestly players at every other position, need to get this shit figured out as part of the next bargaining agreement

This goes to show you how bad the NFL is now. With all the rule changes to benefit the qb's and this bum gets that much money. I never thought my interest in football would be dropping but it is.

This has, is and will continue to get nothing but worse. I began losing interest when sportscasts started leading with "Max Contract" stories way back when instead of, well, sports. Handing out money like this isn't interesting to me, it is pathetic and a race to the bottom (or mediocrity). Stephen Ross et al are all ruining whats left to be ruined of the NFL.

[K_C_]

Mason Rudolph was more impressive against Buffalo in the postseason, than Tua was vs the Chiefs.

Let's also remember that Miami didn't have to play at KC in the beyond freezing cold. No sir.

Miami hosted Buffalo one week earlier and Miami's poor defense, missing every single one of their pass rushers and other important pieces in their secondary turned Josh Allen over 3 times. 2 INT's and a forced fumble. Held the Buffalo offense to 14 points.

Tua, as usual late in the season, put up a very Tua like performance where the Dolphins offense was brutally awful in the second half, culminating in 4 straight punts (the first time all year Miami punted on 4 straight drives) and killing Miami's hopes to host a home playoff game.

Buffalo would have been on the road if Miami won that game, playing in Miami again.

Tua fucking sucks.

[jebrick]

The standard of paying the almost franchise QB

[Deebo]

The standard of paying the almost franchise QB

Yup, what is worse?

a) Not having an average QB
b) Paying an average QB top dollar so you're in cap hell most years

[Jtf]

Number 36 player on the top 100 list voted by peers.

Led league in yards last year

Lead league in passing rating two years ago

Was going to be the top pick in nfl draft 2020 before
Breaking hip and almost losing his leg

Led Miami franchise to first back to back playoffs since 2000 2001 That franchise has done nothing in 20 years. They had most wins since the merger up till 2004. Then they went to complete shit. Tua brought them back from the dead.

Overcame a coach who hated him and couldn’t keep a staff . People took lateral jobs to get away from Flores.
Guy fired online coach first day of practice and then nobody wanted to work with him
Came up with idea of having chain gailey because nobody wanted to work with Flores

Had two o coordinator in 2021 because nobody could stand to work with Flores

Flores
Was turned turned down by matt Canada lol
Read that one again. That is a face that even Steelers fans don’t know about.

Tua overcame that all.

Great kid. Getting better ever year.

I mean he is no Kenny picket or Russel Wilson who Broncos are paying 50 million to not play for them.

That cunt a few messages above really knows qbs.
Probably never watched all 22 but stuffs his fat mouth with hot dogs jerking off over picket. Sold a bill of goods on Kenny picket. Lol. . I mean cause picket beat some scrubs his rookie year and had no injuries on that line. And he got excited about that.

Steelers would love to have tua. I know I would .

Voted number 36 by his peers. Voted worst by kc lol

[K_C_]

Some HILARIOUS quotes in this article from Dolphins fans, after Tua looked like absolute SHIT vs KC, then asked Patrick Mahomes for his jersey after the the game.

Enjoy!!!



https://talksport.com/sport/nfl/1712001 ... -dolphins/

Tua looked a lot better in his first playoff appearance. You know the previous year when Tua was out for over a month with a concussion and didn't play and Skylar Thompson actually competed and didn't quit like Ol' Tua?

Yeah. That one.

[Pabst]

As long as Miami can keep surrounding Tua with elite talent in every single position group they should be fine

[Deebo]

As long as Miami can keep surrounding Tua with elite talent in every single position group they should be fine

Their window is going to be very slim. Hill gets paid a ton. Waddle is up there too. I predict within the next 2 years, 1 of those 3 will need a contract adjustment (Tua/Waddle/Hill)

[Pabst]

As long as Miami can keep surrounding Tua with elite talent in every single position group they should be fine

Their window is going to be very slim. Hill gets paid a ton. Waddle is up there too. I predict within the next 2 years, 1 of those 3 will need a contract adjustment (Tua/Waddle/Hill)

According to Spotrac, they're currently sitting at $71m over the projected cap for next season and $10m over the projected 2026 cap.

That'll require some adjustments and then some.

[jebrick]

As long as Miami can keep surrounding Tua with elite talent in every single position group they should be fine

Their window is going to be very slim. Hill gets paid a ton. Waddle is up there too. I predict within the next 2 years, 1 of those 3 will need a contract adjustment (Tua/Waddle/Hill)

According to Spotrac, they're currently sitting at $71m over the projected cap for next season and $10m over the projected 2026 cap.

That'll require some adjustments and then some.

That -$71m is without losing any players ( which is impressive)

[Works At A Bank]

53 million a year for a player that is a hit or two away from ending his career. Not even a great career at that. Makes perfect sense. I agree that the QB salaries have to reigned in a bit. Wtf

[RemoAZ]

53 million a year for a player that is a hit or two away from ending his career. Not even a great career at that. Makes perfect sense. I agree that the QB salaries have to reigned in a bit. Wtf

That's what I was thinking. This guy looked like he was going to die on the field not too long ago. I guess they figure insurance will pay if he gets injured.

[K_C_]

As long as Miami can keep surrounding Tua with elite talent in every single position group they should be fine

Their window is going to be very slim. Hill gets paid a ton. Waddle is up there too. I predict within the next 2 years, 1 of those 3 will need a contract adjustment (Tua/Waddle/Hill)

The word around South Florida is that Tyreek Hill has 10 baby mama's.

Dude might have to play until his legs fall off because only AB and Hill could be THAT stupid.

Has the fucking guy ever heard of a condom?

[Pabst]

Their window is going to be very slim. Hill gets paid a ton. Waddle is up there too. I predict within the next 2 years, 1 of those 3 will need a contract adjustment (Tua/Waddle/Hill)

According to Spotrac, they're currently sitting at $71m over the projected cap for next season and $10m over the projected 2026 cap.

That'll require some adjustments and then some.

That -$71m is without losing any players ( which is impressive)

Just looked at their depth chart. That defense is....something. Basically a prayer that players well over 30 can still produce and a few key guys come back 100% from injury.

[bradshaw2ben]

As long as Miami can keep surrounding Tua with elite talent in every single position group they should be fine

I mean, the talent is dope... the HC is really the magic. That makes it even weirder that they paid Tua.

[jebrick]

According to Spotrac, they're currently sitting at $71m over the projected cap for next season and $10m over the projected 2026 cap.

That'll require some adjustments and then some.

That -$71m is without losing any players ( which is impressive)

Just looked at their depth chart. That defense is....something. Basically a prayer that players well over 30 can still produce and a few key guys come back 100% from injury.

I should have also added that the -$10M in 2026 is with only 39 players under contract.

[Pabst]

I should have also added that the -$10M in 2026 is with only 39 players under contract.

It's only 34. Spotrac does a poor job of tracking void years.

And speaking of....If you think Miami looks bad, Cleveland is a whole other level of screwed: Cleveland already has $100 million in voided cap dollars allocated for 2027. Stated another way, 1/3 of the Browns cap will be going to players not under contract.

[Jobu]

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden ... ranchises/

[K_C_]

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden ... ranchises/

I agree with a lot of what Madden is driving at in this article but 1) Jordan Love played FANTASTIC especially at the end of the season and with the youngest group of WR's in the league 2) Trevor Lawrence has won a playoff game and has elite QB traits. Size, mobility, huge arm and he's smart. Although he isn't mentioned, Justin Herbert is similar. Herbert and Lawrence are exactly what everybody is looking for in a starting QB and you basically have to pay them.

Tua is a great kid, but he's injury prone and ALWAYS plays like shit when the weather changes and the games mean more. Christ Miami fans understand this plenty well. They love Tua the guy, but he's too fragile and lacks a killer instinct. Some may tout Tua FINALLY staying healthy for 17 games last season, but Mike McDonald (who B2B rightly praised as a wonderful head coach/OC) literally tailored Miami's offense so the ball comes out so fast, Tua is no longer getting hit. Problem is, later in the season it isn't so easy for those timing routes to work and Tua inevitably falters. He also lacks elite traits. He can't be mobile or he'll die. He's short and while he has a really good arm, it isn't anywhere near the level of Herbert or Lawrence.

The interesting guy is Brock Purdy. No question he has played fantastic football for the 49ers, but he landed in the perfect situation and he's surrounded by elite offensive weapons at every position, has a wall for an offensive line and his head coach is a genius level play designer/caller.

If I'm Brock, I don't look to break the bank. Should he get more than Tua? Of course, but Brock shouldn't be looking at being anywhere near the highest paid at his position, or I could most definitely be seeing San Fran moving on from him.

[RemoAZ]

I should have also added that the -$10M in 2026 is with only 39 players under contract.

It's only 34. Spotrac does a poor job of tracking void years.

And speaking of....If you think Miami looks bad, Cleveland is a whole other level of screwed: Cleveland already has $100 million in voided cap dollars allocated for 2027. Stated another way, 1/3 of the Browns cap will be going to players not under contract.

And how long before they release their fully guaranteed QB for something off the field or quitting on the team aka getting injured? Can't wait for that. Of course Tomlin would just sign him so maybe that wouldn't be so funny.

[Pabst]

And how long before they release their fully guaranteed QB for something off the field or quitting on the team aka getting injured? Can't wait for that. Of course Tomlin would just sign him so maybe that wouldn't be so funny.

According to the players survey the Steelers have a poorly rated massage room, so I doubt Watson has any interest.

Back to the Browns: They are projected to be a whopping $85 million over next year's cap, and that doesn't include pending UFAs Chubb, Cooper, Wills, and JOK. If you want a challenge, head to overthecap and try to get them compliant for next season without totally gutting the roster.

At least the Saints were bona fide Super Bowl contenders when they buried themselves in cap hell like this.

[BouldernBun]

And how long before they release their fully guaranteed QB for something off the field or quitting on the team aka getting injured? Can't wait for that. Of course Tomlin would just sign him so maybe that wouldn't be so funny.

Back to the Browns: They are projected to be a whopping $85 million over next year's cap, and that doesn't include pending UFAs Chubb, Cooper, Wills, and JOK. If you want a challenge, head to overthecap and try to get them compliant for next season without totally gutting the roster.

At least the Saints were bona fide Super Bowl contenders when they buried themselves in cap hell like this.

Burying themselves like that should also be pretty high up on the Favorite Cleveland Browns Moments thread. Rare genius!