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SF. KC. Pitt

Post by steelmann58 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:02 am

All these teams are in the mix for availability of WR. Think SF is the most Desperate at this point and followed by KC. The Steelers need to be proactive if they want to add a WR.



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Post by K_C_ » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:17 am

steelmann58 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:02 am
All these teams are in the mix for availability of WR. Think SF is the most Desperate at this point and followed by KC. The Steelers need to be proactive if they want to add a WR.
I see WR as an issue. You see WR as an issue.

I'm not sure the Steelers see WR as a major issue and if they do make a move at that position, I'm now convinced it will a bargain basement type trade.

I can't see them parting with anything higher than a 5th rounder for a Mike Williams type. I'm sure Cooper Kupp is available but he has A LOT of wear on his tires and can't seem to stay healthy anymore. Again, I wouldn't give up anything higher than a 5th.

Now, if younger prospects with much higher upside become available like Garrett Wilson (even though he had a tough time last night) then I guess it could become interesting. I just think they would have made a move at that position by now if they intended to.

I think they draft a partner in crime for Pickens very, very early next April and they also might be waiting to see what they have in Roman Wilson.

Oh and I'll add that I could see KC adding Diontae Johnson within the next week and Hopkins could end up in San Fran, if I had to guess.
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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:28 am

SF or KC will be the first two getting WR. And I guess you’re right it will be a lower level guy like Williams or Slayton. I agree would not touch Cooper at this point.

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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:54 am

Now Add Possibly The Ravens

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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:04 am

No way Jets give up on Wilson.
Williams is their #4 now.
A 5th and no more..
He's 30.
Has about 1300 yards total last 2.5 years.
With AA throwing him under the bus ...
I could see MW wanting out
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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:05 am

Adam Theilan?
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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:21 am

I'll be surprised if steelers do anything

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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:29 am

I like Adam hopefully the Steelers check in

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:35 am

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:17 am
steelmann58 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:02 am
All these teams are in the mix for availability of WR. Think SF is the most Desperate at this point and followed by KC. The Steelers need to be proactive if they want to add a WR.
I see WR as an issue. You see WR as an issue.

I'm not sure the Steelers see WR as a major issue and if they do make a move at that position, I'm now convinced it will a bargain basement type trade.

I can't see them parting with anything higher than a 5th rounder for a Mike Williams type. I'm sure Cooper Kupp is available but he has A LOT of wear on his tires and can't seem to stay healthy anymore. Again, I wouldn't give up anything higher than a 5th.

Now, if younger prospects with much higher upside become available like Garrett Wilson (even though he had a tough time last night) then I guess it could become interesting. I just think they would have made a move at that position by now if they intended to.

I think they draft a partner in crime for Pickens very, very early next April and they also might be waiting to see what they have in Roman Wilson.

Oh and I'll add that I could see KC adding Diontae Johnson within the next week and Hopkins could end up in San Fran, if I had to guess.
I’d roll the dice on QB play conjuring up better WR play than a trade will.

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Post by Still Diesel » Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:03 am

Depending on his health the Steelers might be thinking it’s a good time to get Russell Wilson and Roman Wilson acquainted. Roman Wilson may get some more snaps after the bye. His health may determine if they add a 2nd tier free agent via trade.

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Post by jebrick » Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:52 am

Stosh-67 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:04 am
No way Jets give up on Wilson.
Williams is their #4 now.
A 5th and no more..
He's 30.
Has about 1300 yards total last 2.5 years.
With AA throwing him under the bus ...
I could see MW wanting out
I do not see what Williams gives you other than age. He is not a viable #2
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Post by Ice » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:28 pm

Add me to the list of "Steelers stand pat" guesses. They just hit 30+ points in the last two games, both easy wins. I would assume that in Tomlin's mind, the offense is fixed and just fine.
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:48 pm

Ice wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:28 pm
Add me to the list of "Steelers stand pat" guesses. They just hit 30+ points in the last two games, both easy wins. I would assume that in Tomlin's mind, the offense is fixed and just fine.
While I agree with you, I'm not sure this is the right move.

The Steelers have a legit shot to make some noise in the AFC. They have a big time defense and might have finally found a passing offense.

Pickens and Freiermuth are playing well. Darnell Washington, Van Jefferson and CAIII are helping but this is where we really need one dynamic receiver to compliment Pickens and Fry Daddy.

If we could pry a Courtland Sutton or Garrett Wilson type player away from a team going nowhere (or other teams whose seasons are already over) then the Steelers could be very, very dangerous.

Don't get me wrong, I agree they will stand pat and hope Roman Wilson becomes that dymanic guy once he's healthy.

Hope it works out well because we only have 1 dynamic guy at that position right now and if the Steelers are trying to actually compete for a Lombardi, adding a young stud at that position might be the right move.

I might also give Miami a call about Jaylen Waddle. Tua has decided that when he returns, he isn't going to wear the Guardian Cap. We all know how this is going to work out and in a few weeks, Miami will be in full on rebuilding mode.
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Post by Ice » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:54 pm

Isn't Roman Wilson still trying to jump on the moving train? I ask that to say that they don't even seem to be anything other than nonchalant about even investigating their in-house options.
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:59 pm

Ice wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:54 pm
Isn't Roman Wilson still trying to jump on the moving train? I ask that to say that they don't even seem to be anything other than nonchalant about even investigating their in-house options.
Wilson had the ankle that kept him out since training camp and then pulled a hammy early in the week before the Jets game.

He should be good to go soon and Cool Shades was easing him in during the Raiders game with a few snaps.

I have a feeling they see Wilson as a guy that might be able to make a big difference the second half of the season.
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Post by Deebo » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:03 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:54 am
Now Add Possibly The Ravens
Do you mean the Bucs? Evans and Godwin look to be out multiple weeks. They have to be calling EVERYONE bc their corps just got decimated in 1 night.

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Post by Pabst » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:24 pm

Stealing this from facebook: San Fran's healthiest receiver was shot in the chest 2 months ago.

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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:34 pm

Ladd McConkey is making plays for LAC. No reason Wilson can’t get involved now that we have a real passer under center.
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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:37 pm

And Deebo, Jennings, Kittle, Pearsall and Mason/CMC when healthy is still a very solid group.

I’m not sure SF is part of this equation. Steelers should be front of the pack in hopefully bringing someone in.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:29 pm

Still Diesel wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:03 am
Depending on his health the Steelers might be thinking it’s a good time to get Russell Wilson and Roman Wilson acquainted. Roman Wilson may get some more snaps after the bye. His health may determine if they add a 2nd tier free agent via trade.
I doubt seriously you’ll see much of Roman Wilson, especially not before the bye. If he doesn’t really get cranked into the offense by the time of the Washington game, wouldn’t be shocked if they don’t thrust him in to divisional play. Barring injury to another WR, I think they’ll slow play him.

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Post by Pabst » Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:49 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:37 pm
And Deebo, Jennings, Kittle, Pearsall and Mason/CMC when healthy is still a very solid group.

I’m not sure SF is part of this equation. Steelers should be front of the pack in hopefully bringing someone in.
"When healthy" is doing some heavy lifting in this statement.

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Post by daikyu » Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:47 pm

The coaches were pretty explicit that Roman Wilson is suffering from lack of Reps/conditioning because of his injury. They were slowly phasing him in and then he got injured again before the Jets game.

We are all anxious for Wilson to play and contribute but he has been snakebit so far.

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Post by Louis Lipps Service » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:16 pm

I can't imagine SF dealing for a WR that is anything more than a rental or a JAG.

Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle and McCaffrey are all signed long term. They can't possibly throw more capitol at yet another top 2 WR.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:18 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:29 pm
Still Diesel wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:03 am
Depending on his health the Steelers might be thinking it’s a good time to get Russell Wilson and Roman Wilson acquainted. Roman Wilson may get some more snaps after the bye. His health may determine if they add a 2nd tier free agent via trade.
I doubt seriously you’ll see much of Roman Wilson, especially not before the bye. If he doesn’t really get cranked into the offense by the time of the Washington game, wouldn’t be shocked if they don’t thrust him in to divisional play. Barring injury to another WR, I think they’ll slow play him.
One should really answer, how long does it take on average for the WiFi mesh network to be turned on between a WR and QB for it to even be worthwhile to trade? And do you want a 2G, 3G, 4G or 5G-gigabyte network?

This got me thinking about Caitlin Clark, a prolific passer entering the WNBA, she led the league in turnovers, mainly due to her aggressive passing and then after about 2 months all her teammates learned their heads need to be on a swivel and hands ready anywhere and anytime on the court. Things started to click.

In the NFL there are obvious differences. We probably saw the Adams and Rodgers trade being the best scenario one could hope for and they were not lighting things up.

I found myself thinking a trade for a WR is just plug and play, but that is not true and does a disservice to the skill and work needed for a QB and WR to mesh.

3-5 weeks for a WR2 or WR3 to add the type of value that surpasses your existing crew is probably a good estimate?

Obviously, you bring in a Megatron, Moss or GP there are things you can do right away.

But to get the receiver up to speed so matriculation of the ball down the grid iron isn’t thwarted, 4-6 weeks is probably the real answer for a WR to add decent value to a team.

The longer we wait, the realization of trade value will be more difficult! The longer you wait you are just cloning one of your existing WRs until the gains are realized in the following season.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:32 am

My sources saying Cooper Kuff talks.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:58 am

Stosh-67 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:32 am
My sources saying Cooper Kuff talks.
I don’t believe the rumors one bit. Pure agent BS.

If I heard Stafford was getting shopped too then maybe.

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Post by steelmann58 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:28 am

I said it at the start of all the WR talk that they were happy with their room and don’t see them making any big moves there

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:27 am

Stosh-67 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:32 am
My sources saying Cooper Kuff talks.
The Rams reportedly want a 2 for Kupp which is ridiculous.

3 years ago Kupp might have been worth a second rounder.

Now I'd consider a 5th. No higher. Might not even part with a 7th.

Kupp is hurt all the time.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:46 am

Hearing DeAndre Hopkins to the Chiefs.
Isn't that special....
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Post by Stosh-67 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:46 am

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/a ... pkins.html

75 - 1,057 - 7 last year with Levis, Tannehill and Willis and no other receiver on the team with more than 530 yards

Only 32.
played in all 17 games last year

Only started in 3 of 6 games this year?
He coming off the bench?
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