*cumsTexas Steel wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:36 am26-18... so close i'll give it to you.Jizz Mop wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:53 pmI predicted 26-16 in prediction game thread.swissvale72 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:38 pmYe of little faith. Steelers win by two scores, like 23-13.
10 point win against this shitty team isn’t exactly a blowout.
Tomlin special tonight?
Re: Tomlin special tonight?
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Cleveland's D is fine. Even very good at times. Their problem has been an abysmal offense. Winston + Chubb and minus Watson is a huge improvement.jmacinwbp wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:53 pmNot saying you're wrong with the analysis, but what is it about the Ravens and Bengals D that really scares you into thinking this version of the Steelers can't at least split with them? The Raven's O didn't look all that spectacular against a suspect/below average stains D on Sunday, and the Bengals D is simply atrocious, maybe one of the worst Pittsburgh will face in the entire season. From his play on Sunday, were you sold on Jaimeson not throwing as many picks as TDs vs the Norf?bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:34 pmI think the Commandos are better than the Steelers, so beating them in Washington would be a bit of an upset. Also, splitting the division games is doable but it would surprise me at this point. As I've been saying, I think that stretch is somewhere between 2 and 4 wins max.anpsteel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:13 pmLets hope not
The gauntlet starts in week 10
Skins
Ravens
Browns
Bengals
Browns
Eagles
Ravens
Chiefs you
Bengals
IF they split their division games, which is certainly possible, there are 3 losses
I feel like the game against the skins, is the Trap game. There's a loss
Eagles... they always lose to philly L
Chiefs, that's an L
So, that's easily 6 losses in the last 9 games
Could they sweep any of the division teams?? Yeah, but that's no certainty
Could they beat the Skins?? That's the most winnable of the games, outside of the division games.
Anyway- we'll find out what this team is about, soon enough.
I think Stephanski giving up the play calling to Dorsey, might make the stains the most difficult team to not get swept by, but that's only if Chubb is fully healed from the knee, and back to his All Pro form. One of the stains main problems was their coach thinking he was way too smart, and fucking up a rolling game plan that had Chubb crushing things on the ground, by trying to be more "pass friendly" with suspect play @Qb. Not too mention doing this plays right into Pittsburgh's strength of a strong pass rush from their OLBs.
Ravens offense is really, really good this year. Better than they have been.
Cincinnati's defense isn't great but they're every bit as good if not better than Dallas's defense.
These last two games give cause for some real optimism. Like, they at least look like a team that's a few players and maybe a year away. OT is not solved yet and they still have some issues in the middle of the defense... but they could do better than expected after the bye if they can clean things up and get Broderick Jones off the field. Washington will be a good test.
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You know, I’ve been screaming for Tomlin’s head as loudly as anyone.
But I’m going to do something most won’t.
I’m going to give him some respect.
He’s still too conservative, and still can’t manage timeouts to save his life.
We still give up on drives too easily once we’re within FG range.
I have concerns on how we’ve managed the tackle situation.
But he’s winning games, and even doing it competently. And even with the gripes I have above, I haven’t noticed myself yelling at him nearly as much this season.
I was pushing for Fields to keep his job. But Tomlin has proven me wrong, and I have no problem admitting it. Russ is taking this offense to heights we haven’t seen since a few years before Ben retired.
As badly as he’s handled the QB situation in the previous couple
of years, I have to admit he’s handled it masterfully this season. Maybe it’s pure luck, maybe it’s him just making promises to Russ based on his infamous “gut” and just lucking into a positive result.
Who cares? As critical as I’ve been to him based on prior results, it’s only fair I give him credit now.
We have two rookies on defense (Wilson and Beanie) making big contributions on D.
Special teams has gone from an Achilles heel to one of the best units in the league.
Najee is running like a poor man’s Derrick Henry.
Warren isn’t getting as many touches as last season, likely due to the previous point, but when he does he’s as dynamic as ever.
The line is in shambles due to injury and Jones sucking out loud…but they’re still doing enough to keep the offense running.
Pickens was a ticking time bomb, but has settled down and is beginning to realize the potential we all know he had.
I stand in front of you all and say that Mike Tomlin has my respect thus far this season.
It is now his job to keep it.
(Yes, I’ve been drinking. Why do you ask?)
But I’m going to do something most won’t.
I’m going to give him some respect.
He’s still too conservative, and still can’t manage timeouts to save his life.
We still give up on drives too easily once we’re within FG range.
I have concerns on how we’ve managed the tackle situation.
But he’s winning games, and even doing it competently. And even with the gripes I have above, I haven’t noticed myself yelling at him nearly as much this season.
I was pushing for Fields to keep his job. But Tomlin has proven me wrong, and I have no problem admitting it. Russ is taking this offense to heights we haven’t seen since a few years before Ben retired.
As badly as he’s handled the QB situation in the previous couple
of years, I have to admit he’s handled it masterfully this season. Maybe it’s pure luck, maybe it’s him just making promises to Russ based on his infamous “gut” and just lucking into a positive result.
Who cares? As critical as I’ve been to him based on prior results, it’s only fair I give him credit now.
We have two rookies on defense (Wilson and Beanie) making big contributions on D.
Special teams has gone from an Achilles heel to one of the best units in the league.
Najee is running like a poor man’s Derrick Henry.
Warren isn’t getting as many touches as last season, likely due to the previous point, but when he does he’s as dynamic as ever.
The line is in shambles due to injury and Jones sucking out loud…but they’re still doing enough to keep the offense running.
Pickens was a ticking time bomb, but has settled down and is beginning to realize the potential we all know he had.
I stand in front of you all and say that Mike Tomlin has my respect thus far this season.
It is now his job to keep it.
(Yes, I’ve been drinking. Why do you ask?)
I'm drinking too, and can't believe what I just read LLS. Maybe there will be more who begrudgingly give some cred to Tomlin,and his anti NHALS philosophy this season. If you can't see that as long as Russ keeps being Russell, the turtle is history, long, long gone, after the last two games, you're intentionally being blind.
Ultimately none of it will mean shit, Qb choices, new OC, turtle/no turtle, better game management, etc ...etc ... if they don't impressively win a PO game or two at the end of the season. Without those wins , it's going to be another failed season for Coach T.
Ultimately none of it will mean shit, Qb choices, new OC, turtle/no turtle, better game management, etc ...etc ... if they don't impressively win a PO game or two at the end of the season. Without those wins , it's going to be another failed season for Coach T.
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Pretty much agree with you, Lipps. And...I think Tomlin does have a way with his players. CA III unsolicited comments on this postgame is the latest exampleLouis Lipps Service wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:04 amYou know, I’ve been screaming for Tomlin’s head as loudly as anyone.
But I’m going to do something most won’t.
I’m going to give him some respect.
He’s still too conservative, and still can’t manage timeouts to save his life.
We still give up on drives too easily once we’re within FG range.
I have concerns on how we’ve managed the tackle situation.
But he’s winning games, and even doing it competently. And even with the gripes I have above, I haven’t noticed myself yelling at him nearly as much this season.
I was pushing for Fields to keep his job. But Tomlin has proven me wrong, and I have no problem admitting it. Russ is taking this offense to heights we haven’t seen since a few years before Ben retired.
As badly as he’s handled the QB situation in the previous couple
of years, I have to admit he’s handled it masterfully this season. Maybe it’s pure luck, maybe it’s him just making promises to Russ based on his infamous “gut” and just lucking into a positive result.
Who cares? As critical as I’ve been to him based on prior results, it’s only fair I give him credit now.
We have two rookies on defense (Wilson and Beanie) making big contributions on D.
Special teams has gone from an Achilles heel to one of the best units in the league.
Najee is running like a poor man’s Derrick Henry.
Warren isn’t getting as many touches as last season, likely due to the previous point, but when he does he’s as dynamic as ever.
The line is in shambles due to injury and Jones sucking out loud…but they’re still doing enough to keep the offense running.
Pickens was a ticking time bomb, but has settled down and is beginning to realize the potential we all know he had.
I stand in front of you all and say that Mike Tomlin has my respect thus far this season.
It is now his job to keep it.
(Yes, I’ve been drinking. Why do you ask?)
I am leaning toward your position, regarding the Commanders being better, as well.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:34 pmI think the Commandos are better than the Steelers, so beating them in Washington would be a bit of an upset. Also, splitting the division games is doable but it would surprise me at this point. As I've been saying, I think that stretch is somewhere between 2 and 4 wins max.anpsteel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:13 pmLets hope not
The gauntlet starts in week 10
Skins
Ravens
Browns
Bengals
Browns
Eagles
Ravens
Chiefs
Bengals
IF they split their division games, which is certainly possible, there are 3 losses
I feel like the game against the skins, is the Trap game. There's a loss
Eagles... they always lose to philly L
Chiefs, that's an L
So, that's easily 6 losses in the last 9 games
Could they sweep any of the division teams?? Yeah, but that's no certainty
Could they beat the Skins?? That's the most winnable of the games, outside of the division games.
Anyway- we'll find out what this team is about, soon enough.
The "trap" aspect, is: Away Game, Non-Division, Non Conference, opponent... with a much more meaningful game following.
Add to it, coming off a bye
I can easily see the Steelers coming out flat, and Washington putting up a bunch of points early.
As far as that game being the most "winnable" of the non-division games... I think that is legit.
Could they beat KC?? Maybe, but when it comes to Mahomes, I'm not counting on it. On the upside, the game is in Pitt
Could they beat the Eagles? Maybe, but when it comes to the Eagles, I'm not counting on it. On the downside, the game is in Philly
No matter how the Commanders game plays out, they are going to be hard pressed to win more than 4 of those final games.
AND part of that challenge is, unlike having difficult match ups and rival games spread across the schedule, this is going to be 9 weeks in a row, of hard games.
IMO, the only way they win more than 4, is if they get the offensive production up, and start playing more aggressively. They are not going to win these games by "trying to get to 3rd down" in the typical Tomlin fashion. Settling for FGs will not work.
I’m on board with this too. He has deserved any and all criticism but at this specific point in time I think he’s doing a good job thus far this season.Louis Lipps Service wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:04 amYou know, I’ve been screaming for Tomlin’s head as loudly as anyone.
But I’m going to do something most won’t.
I’m going to give him some respect.
He’s still too conservative, and still can’t manage timeouts to save his life.
We still give up on drives too easily once we’re within FG range.
I have concerns on how we’ve managed the tackle situation.
But he’s winning games, and even doing it competently. And even with the gripes I have above, I haven’t noticed myself yelling at him nearly as much this season.
I was pushing for Fields to keep his job. But Tomlin has proven me wrong, and I have no problem admitting it. Russ is taking this offense to heights we haven’t seen since a few years before Ben retired.
As badly as he’s handled the QB situation in the previous couple
of years, I have to admit he’s handled it masterfully this season. Maybe it’s pure luck, maybe it’s him just making promises to Russ based on his infamous “gut” and just lucking into a positive result.
Who cares? As critical as I’ve been to him based on prior results, it’s only fair I give him credit now.
We have two rookies on defense (Wilson and Beanie) making big contributions on D.
Special teams has gone from an Achilles heel to one of the best units in the league.
Najee is running like a poor man’s Derrick Henry.
Warren isn’t getting as many touches as last season, likely due to the previous point, but when he does he’s as dynamic as ever.
The line is in shambles due to injury and Jones sucking out loud…but they’re still doing enough to keep the offense running.
Pickens was a ticking time bomb, but has settled down and is beginning to realize the potential we all know he had.
I stand in front of you all and say that Mike Tomlin has my respect thus far this season.
It is now his job to keep it.
(Yes, I’ve been drinking. Why do you ask?)
Pleased to see the offensive progression now that Wilson is playing.
Time to get 88 more involved with continued oasses to DW. Specifically down the seam. I think those should be coming.
As you said, it’s up to him where the opinion goes from here.
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I’m reluctant to give Tomlin credit for starting Wilson. He has a better look than all of us at the QB position in practices etc. I feel pretty confident all of us witnessing Fields struggle some in games solidified the need to start Wilson and see what he has. Wilson has made the the O better. Maybe it’s luck or coincidence or whatever.
IMO if the Tomlin TD’s don’t start turning into 6 vs 3 points we’ll get bounced rather quickly if we do make the playoffs. I’m hopeful that it starts to get better and better as time goes on giving all the 1’s more reps together etc.
Sitting at 6-2 going into the bye week with the O-line and other injuries we’ve had is pretty remarkable.
IMO if the Tomlin TD’s don’t start turning into 6 vs 3 points we’ll get bounced rather quickly if we do make the playoffs. I’m hopeful that it starts to get better and better as time goes on giving all the 1’s more reps together etc.
Sitting at 6-2 going into the bye week with the O-line and other injuries we’ve had is pretty remarkable.
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