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Post by .Kodiak » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:03 am

Quite the opening drive. A Mike Tomlin classic, right up to the point they eschewed the FG to go for 4th and 1 at the 10 :D

18 plays. Nearly 10 minutes. Might be a ball game after all.



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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:13 am

Not looking good. Someone needs to clock the OSU QB with ball or not. He is not Henry!

Probably, OsU fans should I the same for Leonard. Knock the Peter in Your Ass 2:16 prayer sweatband into oblivion.

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Post by jebrick » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:26 am

ND does not have the offense to come from behind. Leonard can't pass the ball very well.
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Post by .Kodiak » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:36 am

jebrick wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:26 am
ND does not have the offense to come from behind. Leonard can't pass the ball very well.
He's like a Kenny Pickett with better legs!

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Post by Steel Ubaldo » Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:39 am

We’ve entered the portion of the game where the curb stomping officially begins. OSU may beat ND by 40 if they sweep the leg and show no mercy. :lol:

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:10 am

That was a pretty quick TE spin move for 7… Friermuth doesn’t have that. Why doesn’t he have that? Because our TE coach doesn’t teach, coach or have them practice it.

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Post by 955876 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:15 am

Ohio State would kick our ass.

We’d be in a dog fight with ND. Might pull it out in the 4th.
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Post by .Kodiak » Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:29 am

WHY would you kick the FG there?!?!?

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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:30 am

.Kodiak wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:29 am
WHY would you kick the FG there?!?!?
Was just going to write the same thing, how stupid

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Post by .Kodiak » Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:45 am

Well we might have a ball game again

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Post by .Kodiak » Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:47 am

LOL...and had they made the FG it would be 31-25....

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Post by Obviously » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:14 pm

Ohio State vs. Notre Dame is akin to a 70's Raiders-Cowboys Super Bowl to me. I despise both teams, but I despise Notre Dame the most so glad OSU won.
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Post by jebrick » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:20 pm

OSU is one of the best team that money can buy but that is major college football today.
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Post by Ice » Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:23 pm

Fun game, really fun playoff, and a great job of sticking together as a team after the disaster after Thanksgiving, pulling together and getting the job they all came back and came together for done. Just a really easy group of kids to like all year long, and a bright spot in an otherwise uninspiring 2024-5 football landscape for me.
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Post by Charles Demarr » Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:55 pm

Ice wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:23 pm
Fun game, really fun playoff, and a great job of sticking together as a team after the disaster after Thanksgiving, pulling together and getting the job they all came back and came together for done. Just a really easy group of kids to like all year long, and a bright spot in an otherwise uninspiring 2024-5 football landscape for me.
100%

Day and company deserve a ton of credit. They could've folded after the Michigan debacle but instead played one of the most impressive 4 game stretches in college football history. Now onto the miserable Steelers offseason.

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Post by Ice » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:24 pm

That Buckeye team, contrasted with what I watched from the Steelers on Sunday... made me wish the pros played Saturdays and college Sundays.
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:52 pm

I'll admit I'm biased against OSU but after they lost to a 6-5 Michigan team, IN COLUMBUS, when Michigan was missing their only offensive weapon (Colston Loveland) and their best defensive player (Will Johnson), OSU should have fallen a lot farther down the rankings than they did and did not deserve to play a home game in the College Football Playoff.

Let me preface this by saying that OSU was the most talented team in college football and they deserved their title, but I don't care what anybody says. You cannot lose to a 6-5 UM team at home, late in the year and only fall like 3 spots or whatever it was. That was just ridiculous.

My Indiana Hoosiers had 1 loss on the season - to #2 Ohio State and Indiana beat Michigan. No, I don't think Indiana was a better team than OSU (especially with Kurtis Rourke playing the entire season with a torn MCL or whatever it was) but I believe Indiana deserved a home game in the playoff before OSU did.
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Post by Ice » Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:15 pm

Funny, most would say maybe after SMU, IU was the least deserving playoff team, and certainly nobody was going to rank them ahead of tOSU after what happened in Columbus less than a month earlier.

Honestly, IU's ranking probably set the floor for tOSU's.
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Post by K_C_ » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:05 am

Ice wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:15 pm
Funny, most would say maybe after SMU, IU was the least deserving playoff team, and certainly nobody was going to rank them ahead of tOSU after what happened in Columbus less than a month earlier.

Honestly, IU's ranking probably set the floor for tOSU's.
IU had one loss heading into the playoff. Just one.

To #2 OSU in Columbus.

OSU's losses were to #1 Oregon and unranked, 6-5 UM who were, again, missing their best offensive player and their best defensive player and the game was in Columbus. That loss is and was ridiculously bad.

OSU had a few better wins than IU for sure, but IU beat Michigan and beat everybody else on their B1G schedule (and let's not forget that after Ohio State BARELY survived Nebraska and I believe that game was also in Columbus. Indiana a week or 2 later beat Nebraska by like 50 points.)

Indiana most definitely deserved to be in the playoff but probably didn't deserve a home game. I wouldn't argue that.

That loss to 6-5 Michigan on the final game of the B1G season AT HOME most certainly should have put OSU on the road too.
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Post by Ice » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:17 am

Just saying, however you want to frame it, the folks deciding probably looked at a really close loss against the undefeated #1 team in the country at the time, and wins over PSU and Indiana (both top 10, PSU top 5), who they handled decisively, and a 3 point last second rivalry loss for Ohio and decided it was enough to give them a home game. As a whole body of work, and factoring in the eye test, head to head results and where they were ranked to start the season, both of which always enter into the equation, it's hard to argue. Who gets the 8 seed ahead of them? Tennessee? Would that have made a huge difference? Wouldn't be IU, as the committee clearly valued the head to head results.

Plus, sheesh, best season IU's ever had in football, who knows if it gets repeated? Why waste time on sour grapes?

Trust me, I'm a Pitt alum, and that last great season was a fun enough memory that I rooted for KP on the Steelers for three years.
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Post by K_C_ » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:30 pm

Ice wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:17 am
Just saying, however you want to frame it, the folks deciding probably looked at a really close loss against the undefeated #1 team in the country at the time, and wins over PSU and Indiana (both top 10, PSU top 5), who they handled decisively, and a 3 point last second rivalry loss for Ohio and decided it was enough to give them a home game. As a whole body of work, and factoring in the eye test, head to head results and where they were ranked to start the season, both of which always enter into the equation, it's hard to argue. Who gets the 8 seed ahead of them? Tennessee? Would that have made a huge difference? Wouldn't be IU, as the committee clearly valued the head to head results.

Plus, sheesh, best season IU's ever had in football, who knows if it gets repeated? Why waste time on sour grapes?

Trust me, I'm a Pitt alum, and that last great season was a fun enough memory that I rooted for KP on the Steelers for three years.
It's not sour grapes at all. OSU was absolutely the most talented team in the country on both sides of the ball and their championship was well deserved but that UM game, again, should have been a deal breaker when it came to handing out home games in the CFP.

There was absolutely no excuse for that, rivalry or not. Michigan was terrible. 6-5 and again, the game was in Columbus. If that game was in Ann Arbor, I might agree with you. Emphasis on "might" but UM was awful and missing their 2 best players. That is simply a loss that cannot happen, especially at that stage of the college football season.

Week 1 or 2? Okay, maybe. The final game of the season??? Yeah, no.
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Post by Ice » Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:11 pm

Other than, hey, why don't you try to get yourself on the CFP committee, I'm not sure what to tell you. I think they ranked tOSU fairly. Heck, they ranked them behind one of the top 5 teams they'd beaten (albeit a considerably closer score than the IU game), on the road, in PSU, which was certainly fair after the Post-Turkey Debacle. Honestly, I think the 38-15 score from Columbus probably dropped IU out of the "real contenders" tier in the committee's eyes, the moment it happened, while tOSU remained there, and that line of thinking likely stuck there for the seeding process. There is no mathematical formula being used, and they're never going to tell you how they do it. They (and me, too) like the controversy. Welcome to the joys of National Championship contention.
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Post by jeemie » Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:54 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:05 am
Ice wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:15 pm
Funny, most would say maybe after SMU, IU was the least deserving playoff team, and certainly nobody was going to rank them ahead of tOSU after what happened in Columbus less than a month earlier.

Honestly, IU's ranking probably set the floor for tOSU's.
IU had one loss heading into the playoff. Just one.

To #2 OSU in Columbus.

OSU's losses were to #1 Oregon and unranked, 6-5 UM who were, again, missing their best offensive player and their best defensive player and the game was in Columbus. That loss is and was ridiculously bad.

OSU had a few better wins than IU for sure, but IU beat Michigan and beat everybody else on their B1G schedule (and let's not forget that after Ohio State BARELY survived Nebraska and I believe that game was also in Columbus. Indiana a week or 2 later beat Nebraska by like 50 points.)

Indiana most definitely deserved to be in the playoff but probably didn't deserve a home game. I wouldn't argue that.

That loss to 6-5 Michigan on the final game of the B1G season AT HOME most certainly should have put OSU on the road too.
IIRC Ohio State got the last home seed.

Road teams were Tennessee, Indiana, SMU and Clemson.

Which one of those should have gotten a home game over OSU?
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Post by K_C_ » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:41 pm

jeemie wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:54 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:05 am
Ice wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:15 pm
Funny, most would say maybe after SMU, IU was the least deserving playoff team, and certainly nobody was going to rank them ahead of tOSU after what happened in Columbus less than a month earlier.

Honestly, IU's ranking probably set the floor for tOSU's.
IU had one loss heading into the playoff. Just one.

To #2 OSU in Columbus.

OSU's losses were to #1 Oregon and unranked, 6-5 UM who were, again, missing their best offensive player and their best defensive player and the game was in Columbus. That loss is and was ridiculously bad.

OSU had a few better wins than IU for sure, but IU beat Michigan and beat everybody else on their B1G schedule (and let's not forget that after Ohio State BARELY survived Nebraska and I believe that game was also in Columbus. Indiana a week or 2 later beat Nebraska by like 50 points.)

Indiana most definitely deserved to be in the playoff but probably didn't deserve a home game. I wouldn't argue that.

That loss to 6-5 Michigan on the final game of the B1G season AT HOME most certainly should have put OSU on the road too.
IIRC Ohio State got the last home seed.

Road teams were Tennessee, Indiana, SMU and Clemson.

Which one of those should have gotten a home game over OSU?
Out of those teams? I'd definitely go with Indiana.

IU had 1 loss going into the CFP. That loss was to #2 OSU in Columbus. That's it.

OSU had a loss to #1Oregon (I believe that was at a neutral site) and.....wait for it....to 6-5 Michigan (who was missing it's only offensive weapon, Colston Loveland and it's best defensive player, All American corner Will Johnson) in Columbus.

Yep, I think that Michigan loss AT HOME and when it occurred (final game of the freaking season!) should have been OSU's home field deal breaker.
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Post by jeemie » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:31 pm

Except the results told a different take

Indiana got steamrolled by Notre Dame (game wasn't as close as the score indicates) while OSU ended up beating every team in the top eight at some point this season.

Yeah the Michigan loss was bad but OSU was better than Indiana and it showed.
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Post by K_C_ » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:53 pm

jeemie wrote:
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Except the results told a different take

Indiana got steamrolled by Notre Dame (game wasn't as close as the score indicates) while OSU ended up beating every team in the top eight at some point this season.

Yeah the Michigan loss was bad but OSU was better than Indiana and it showed.
OSU might have lost at Notre Dame too. That’s a very tough place to play and didn’t Notre Dame beat the piss out Georgia soon after? They sure did.

Again, the loss to Michigan wasn’t just “bad.” It was HORRIFIC. Michigan was 6-5. Every great player from their national title team was in the NFL and their 2 best current players were out.

Indiana never suffered a defeat to an unranked team at all, at any point in the season especially at home and they boat raced all competition except for OSU in Columbus. OSU was ranked #2 in the country.

OSU won it all and props to them but starting that run at home sure helped them plenty.
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Post by jebrick » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:11 pm

Indiana did not have elite talent and it showed every time they played a team with talented players. ND has talent, they always get talent. They have an offense that can't pass the ball but a load of talent.

I hope Indiana gets some good players from the portal and improves their talent. They have a great coach and great system but transfers from James Madison still have a hard time against 4 and 5 start recruits at almost every position.
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Post by Ice » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:29 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:41 pm
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Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:54 pm
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IU had one loss heading into the playoff. Just one.

To #2 OSU in Columbus.

OSU's losses were to #1 Oregon and unranked, 6-5 UM who were, again, missing their best offensive player and their best defensive player and the game was in Columbus. That loss is and was ridiculously bad.

OSU had a few better wins than IU for sure, but IU beat Michigan and beat everybody else on their B1G schedule (and let's not forget that after Ohio State BARELY survived Nebraska and I believe that game was also in Columbus. Indiana a week or 2 later beat Nebraska by like 50 points.)

Indiana most definitely deserved to be in the playoff but probably didn't deserve a home game. I wouldn't argue that.

That loss to 6-5 Michigan on the final game of the B1G season AT HOME most certainly should have put OSU on the road too.
IIRC Ohio State got the last home seed.

Road teams were Tennessee, Indiana, SMU and Clemson.

Which one of those should have gotten a home game over OSU?
Out of those teams? I'd definitely go with Indiana.

IU had 1 loss going into the CFP. That loss was to #2 OSU in Columbus. That's it.

OSU had a loss to #1Oregon (I believe that was at a neutral site) and.....wait for it....to 6-5 Michigan (who was missing it's only offensive weapon, Colston Loveland and it's best defensive player, All American corner Will Johnson) in Columbus.

Yep, I think that Michigan loss AT HOME and when it occurred (final game of the freaking season!) should have been OSU's home field deal breaker.
The #6 Ohio State one point loss to #1 Oregon was at the neutral site known as Autzen Stadium in Eugene, OR, by the way. Showed they were on even footing talent-wise.

Had the IU loss at tOSU been by one point instead of 23, maybe the committee would've looked at it differently. Coming out of that game, nobody thought Indiana and Ohio State were on even footing.

No way was IU getting a home game ahead of Ohio State after that.

Maybe in years past, the TTUN loss has a bigger (likely fatal) effect, but in those years, IU wouldn't have made the 4 team field, either.
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Post by Steelcody7 » Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:55 pm

As an Ohio State fan I agree that the Michigan loss was awful. That being said, it's a rivalry and Michigan's defense is built to face OSU. It was also only a three point loss and their only other loss was by one point on a "neutral" field to the number one team in the country. OSU would beat Indiana nine out of ten games if they played ten times. Also, watching OSU provided some relief from watching our very vanilla, uninspired and poorly coached Steelers team. I missed two or three Steelers games. Prior to this year I didn't miss watching a Steelers game for literally any reason. I'm so tired of the same old shit from them that I likely won't watch every game next season either. It's like punishing myself every week. I also got married in September so my mother in law was impressed that I agreed to miss a couple of games, lol.

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Post by Ice » Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:38 pm

Steelcody7 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:55 pm
As an Ohio State fan I agree that the Michigan loss was awful. That being said, it's a rivalry and Michigan's defense is built to face OSU. It was also only a three point loss and their only other loss was by one point on a "neutral" field to the number one team in the country. OSU would beat Indiana nine out of ten games if they played ten times. Also, watching OSU provided some relief from watching our very vanilla, uninspired and poorly coached Steelers team. I missed two or three Steelers games. Prior to this year I didn't miss watching a Steelers game for literally any reason. I'm so tired of the same old shit from them that I likely won't watch every game next season either. It's like punishing myself every week. I also got married in September so my mother in law was impressed that I agreed to miss a couple of games, lol.
Great Steelers season to impress the inlaws! Never even thought of it that way. Makings of an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm right there.

Also, hopefully the biggest lesson Ryan Day learned this year was that you don't have to play to TTUN's strength just to prove you can, and play to your own. It's the only game where he lives in his fears.
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