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Post by K_C_ » Sat Aug 30, 2025 6:57 pm

He might be available in the 6th round, just like Will Howard, next April. Dude better stay in school.

Horrible performance.


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Post by gojira5150 » Sat Aug 30, 2025 7:14 pm

K_C_ wrote:
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He might be available in the 6th round, just like Will Howard, next April. Dude better stay in school.

Horrible performance.
If his last name was Williams, no one would care. He's not that good. Accuracy is horrible. He's overrated. Do not trade all your high picks for him. I'd rather Stillers draft Taylen Green in bottom of 1st and use all those picks elsewhere
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Post by K_C_ » Sat Aug 30, 2025 7:22 pm

Well if he ties it up here, maybe we have a different story!!
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Post by CKSteeler » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:02 pm

I think people are maybe overreacting to one game, the first game of the season at that, in his first full season as a starter. Good or bad.

His name is obviously a big part of why he's pushed as a top prospect already. But damn...can we not jump to conclusions.

Not to mention that may be the best team in college football he was facing. Not to mention that may be the best team in college football he was facing.

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Post by K_C_ » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:28 pm

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I think people are maybe overreacting to one game, the first game of the season at that, in his first full season as a starter. Good or bad.

His name is obviously a big part of why he's pushed as a top prospect already. But damn...can we not jump to conclusions.

Not to mention that may be the best team in college football he was facing. Not to mention that may be the best team in college football he was facing.
Obviously OSU is really good but they had to have lost 75% or higher of the impact players from last season that won a national championship.

Arch looked like shit. Missed several easy throws and frankly he looked skittish and nervous. More so than Julian Sayin, a true freshman and that’s sayin’ something (pun intended.)

Maybe Arch turns into another Peyton or Eli but the odds ain’t looking good.
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Post by CKSteeler » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:33 pm

The guy threw 90 passes last year. It's his first game. Obviously he's not ready right now to be in the NFL. He may not even be by season's end (and this is probably why Archie says he wont' enter the draft this year).

It's his first season as a starter. You know what correlates the most with success at the NFL level? Number of starts in college (plus completion percentage, at least it used to when it mattered more and schemes weren't so gimmicky).

Maybe he'll be a bum. I don't know or particularly care. But just saying slow your roll.

I don't want to be that guy, but you are one of the people who wanted us to have patience with Kenny fucking Pickett.

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Post by K_C_ » Sat Aug 30, 2025 9:02 pm

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Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:33 pm
The guy threw 90 passes last year. It's his first game. Obviously he's not ready right now to be in the NFL. He may not even be by season's end (and this is probably why Archie says he wont' enter the draft this year).

It's his first season as a starter. You know what correlates the most with success at the NFL level? Number of starts in college (plus completion percentage, at least it used to when it mattered more and schemes weren't so gimmicky).

Maybe he'll be a bum. I don't know or particularly care. But just saying slow your roll.

I don't want to be that guy, but you are one of the people who wanted us to have patience with Kenny fucking Pickett.
Yes, when you draft a QB in the first round, patience is probably a good idea or……wait for it……you’re quickly admitting your first round QB is/was a bust.

I get all QB’s need time to grow but Manning looked awful today. OSU is a tough place to play but this version of the Buckeyes ain’t threatening to win it all. They have a lot of warts and Arch couldn’t exploit any of them.

Terrible performance. Maybe he’ll get better but he shit the bed in a game watched by the nation. Plain and simple. I do agree he’ll very likely be in college next season too.
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Post by jebrick » Sat Aug 30, 2025 9:17 pm

Looked like he needs more experience and work on his mechanics. Not that it will stop the fitting for his HOF jacket ( according to the knob polishers in sports media).
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Post by K_C_ » Sat Aug 30, 2025 9:24 pm

Manning’s off target throw percentage today was the highest by a Texas QB in the last 10 years.
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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Sat Aug 30, 2025 9:49 pm

If he were a generational talent we wouldn't be having this discussion and he wouldn't have been benched for Ewers.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Sat Aug 30, 2025 11:06 pm

Difficult to say after one game, first game of the season where the opponent was playing lights out defense.

I understand Generational talent rises to the occasion and ’wills’ their team to wins, most times.

That said, this game was within reach at least to tie pushing an OT scenario.

Do you write off a player due to a loss that wasn’t a blowout and was very winnable in the end?

Knowing football is a team sport and while there are certain positions that influence games more than others.

The loss was not all on the QB. WR’s have to get open, Oline has to create push/run lanes and defense has to make stops.

Perhaps the loss today sparks that confidence and competitive drive pushing Manning to become a better player for it?

I’m not writing him off. Fortune cookie says, don’t fear opposition even a kite rises against the wind…. :lol:

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Post by jebrick » Sat Aug 30, 2025 11:35 pm

Steelafan77 wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 11:06 pm
Difficult to say after one game, first game of the season where the opponent was playing lights out defense.

I understand Generational talent rises to the occasion and ’wills’ their team to wins, most times.

That said, this game was within reach at least to tie pushing an OT scenario.

Do you write off a player due to a loss that wasn’t a blowout and was very winnable in the end?

Knowing football is a team sport and while there are certain positions that influence games more than others.

The loss was not all on the QB. WR’s have to get open, Oline has to create push/run lanes and defense has to make stops.

Perhaps the loss today sparks that confidence and competitive drive pushing Manning to become a better player for it?

I’m not writing him off. Fortune cookie says, don’t fear opposition even a kite rises against the wind…. :lol:
I think he COULD be good but right now needs more starts. He had some nice throws and some not very nice throws.

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Post by Boukman » Sun Aug 31, 2025 12:04 am

In his 1st road start / big game, he looked overwhelmed and under prepared against the OSU D. Not totally surprising. I didn’t expect his footwork and throwing mechanics to be so sloppy though.

Long way to go…we’ll see if he can develop this year while being in such a big spotlight.

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Post by Steeldrama » Sun Aug 31, 2025 12:37 am

Peyton/Manning family haters couldn’t wait to pounce on this one

Definitely a poor performance

It can’t be defended

But

Arch was playing his first road game at the Horseshoe home of the National Champs.

Had to be some nerves even for a Manning.

I was looking forward to that game all week.

Neither offense was remotely impressive.

It’ was week 1 of a LONG season.

Those two teams could meet again in the playoffs

My guess is both offenses will look a whole lot better by then

Arch too
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Post by cop1211 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 1:29 am

He needs 2 seasons as a starter, I think he’ll be just fine.

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Post by 955876 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 2:46 am

As long as Jibba Jabber is still the head coach it doesn’t matter if we draft Archie Manning or Archie Bunker.

Kid could have Bradshaw’s arm, Brady’s brain, and Lamar’s wheels and Jibbs would still find a way to fuck things up.

Guy could have Margot Robbie, Scarlett Jo, and Ana de Armas all in bed drunk, naked, & wanting dick and ole Cool Shades would still manage to not score.

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Post by franco32 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:45 am

Sark didn't do Arch any favors. I thought Matt Canada was calling Texas plays for much of the first half. Way to get your young QB in a flow with all those runs.

That said Manning played poorly. There were times he had time and just couldn't pull the trigger. Obviously we have to see him and how much he grows.

Did anyone see Mateer yesterday? Not a tall guy but he can really spin the ball. I'm going to keep an eye on him.

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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 11:05 am

Matt Patricia might of had something to do with it too. Looks like he started Ozempic.

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Post by K_C_ » Sun Aug 31, 2025 11:06 am

Steeldrama wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2025 12:37 am
Peyton/Manning family haters couldn’t wait to pounce on this one

Definitely a poor performance

It can’t be defended

But

Arch was playing his first road game at the Horseshoe home of the National Champs.

Had to be some nerves even for a Manning.

I was looking forward to that game all week.

Neither offense was remotely impressive.

It’ was week 1 of a LONG season.

Those two teams could meet again in the playoffs

My guess is both offenses will look a whole lot better by then

Arch too
To be clear, I WORSHIP Eli Manning because he beat the Belichick and Brady not once, but twice for Lombardis.

LOVE the Giants and Eli for that.

Peyton is funny and while I definitely think he got too much hype (while Roethlisberger didn't get enough) Manning was a superstar.

I'm rooting for Arch Manning to succeed. The NFL needs more superstars and he obviously has the size, mobility, arm and genes.

But OSU only brought back 3 starters on defense from last season's national championship team and Arch looked like shit.

Definitely not gonna make a total judgement on one big game but holy shit he has a long way to go.
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Post by Steeldrama » Sun Aug 31, 2025 12:03 pm

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2025 11:05 am
Matt Patricia might of had something to do with it too. Looks like he started Ozempic.
Yep

Sark had no answers

The Texas DC was no slouch either once again making Jeremiah Smith largely a non factor
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Post by Ice » Sun Aug 31, 2025 12:09 pm

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2025 11:05 am
Matt Patricia might of had something to do with it too. Looks like he started Ozempic.
This. I think Matt Pat is going to end up looking like a great hire by the time all's said and done. That defense, despite only returning a handful of starters (granted, one of those was maybe the top defender in the country), looked well coached, well schemed and ready to play.
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Post by Gonzo » Sun Aug 31, 2025 4:59 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 9:02 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:33 pm
The guy threw 90 passes last year. It's his first game. Obviously he's not ready right now to be in the NFL. He may not even be by season's end (and this is probably why Archie says he wont' enter the draft this year).

It's his first season as a starter. You know what correlates the most with success at the NFL level? Number of starts in college (plus completion percentage, at least it used to when it mattered more and schemes weren't so gimmicky).

Maybe he'll be a bum. I don't know or particularly care. But just saying slow your roll.

I don't want to be that guy, but you are one of the people who wanted us to have patience with Kenny fucking Pickett.
Yes, when you draft a QB in the first round, patience is probably a good idea or……wait for it……you’re quickly admitting your first round QB is/was a bust.

I get all QB’s need time to grow but Manning looked awful today. OSU is a tough place to play but this version of the Buckeyes ain’t threatening to win it all. They have a lot of warts and Arch couldn’t exploit any of them.

Terrible performance. Maybe he’ll get better but he shit the bed in a game watched by the nation. Plain and simple. I do agree he’ll very likely be in college next season too.
Manning did play poorly
But that’s an incredibly difficult first game
And that Ohio state defense is very good… don’t care who graduated
Ohio State is a threat to win it all … biggest factor will be if young qb can make some plays when it matters and not turn the ball over
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Post by Gonzo » Sun Aug 31, 2025 5:01 pm

franco32 wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:45 am
Sark didn't do Arch any favors. I thought Matt Canada was calling Texas plays for much of the first half. Way to get your young QB in a flow with all those runs.

That said Manning played poorly. There were times he had time and just couldn't pull the trigger. Obviously we have to see him and how much he grows.

Did anyone see Mateer yesterday? Not a tall guy but he can really spin the ball. I'm going to keep an eye on him.
I agree 100% …. He has a reputation as a great play caller but that wasn’t on display yesterday. Thought the play calls were pretty bland and predictable. That 4th and goal was so telegraphed …. Everyone watching knew what the call was and exactly where it was going

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Post by Gonzo » Sun Aug 31, 2025 5:02 pm

Ice wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2025 12:09 pm
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Sun Aug 31, 2025 11:05 am
Matt Patricia might of had something to do with it too. Looks like he started Ozempic.
This. I think Matt Pat is going to end up looking like a great hire by the time all's said and done. That defense, despite only returning a handful of starters (granted, one of those was maybe the top defender in the country), looked well coached, well schemed and ready to play.
Thant defense is going to be one of tops in college this year

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Post by K_C_ » Sun Aug 31, 2025 5:11 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2025 4:59 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 9:02 pm
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Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:33 pm
The guy threw 90 passes last year. It's his first game. Obviously he's not ready right now to be in the NFL. He may not even be by season's end (and this is probably why Archie says he wont' enter the draft this year).

It's his first season as a starter. You know what correlates the most with success at the NFL level? Number of starts in college (plus completion percentage, at least it used to when it mattered more and schemes weren't so gimmicky).

Maybe he'll be a bum. I don't know or particularly care. But just saying slow your roll.

I don't want to be that guy, but you are one of the people who wanted us to have patience with Kenny fucking Pickett.
Yes, when you draft a QB in the first round, patience is probably a good idea or……wait for it……you’re quickly admitting your first round QB is/was a bust.

I get all QB’s need time to grow but Manning looked awful today. OSU is a tough place to play but this version of the Buckeyes ain’t threatening to win it all. They have a lot of warts and Arch couldn’t exploit any of them.

Terrible performance. Maybe he’ll get better but he shit the bed in a game watched by the nation. Plain and simple. I do agree he’ll very likely be in college next season too.
Manning did play poorly
But that’s an incredibly difficult first game
And that Ohio state defense is very good… don’t care who graduated
Ohio State is a threat to win it all … biggest factor will be if young qb can make some plays when it matters and not turn the ball over
OSU returned 3 of their 11 defensive starters from their national championship squad.

Sure, Columbus is a very tough place to play and nerves could have played a part in why Manning looked so awful.

But OSU's freshman QB never looked overwhelmed and I thought Arch Manning did. Plenty.

Small sample size and I expect him to bounce back, but he was pretty terrible yesterday, no matter how you slice it.
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Post by Steeldrama » Sun Aug 31, 2025 7:14 pm

….Lanorris Sellers on the other hand
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Post by gojira5150 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 7:17 pm

955876 wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2025 2:46 am
As long as Jibba Jabber is still the head coach it doesn’t matter if we draft Archie Manning or Archie Bunker.

Kid could have Bradshaw’s arm, Brady’s brain, and Lamar’s wheels and Jibbs would still find a way to fuck things up.

Guy could have Margot Robbie, Scarlett Jo, and Ana de Armas all in bed drunk, naked, & wanting dick and ole Cool Shades would still manage to not score.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Sun Aug 31, 2025 7:55 pm

Read Cade Klubnik didn’t have as good a first game folks anticipated either.

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Post by Ice » Sun Aug 31, 2025 8:36 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2025 7:14 pm
….Lanorris Sellers on the other hand
Looked great on the first drive, little less since then. Just like tOSU, Texas, LSU and Clemson, though, you're seeing him against a much better caliber defense than guys like Green, Allar and Mateer earlier in the weekend, and I definitely give some credit for that.

Weird watching a VA Tech game where the only Beamer is coaching on the opposite sideline.
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Post by Gonzo » Sun Aug 31, 2025 10:21 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Sun Aug 31, 2025 7:14 pm
….Lanorris Sellers on the other hand
love him ! i desperately want him to be a pittsburgh steeelet especially if it’s with a new OC, HC and QB coach

and how many guys ohio state returned on D makes little difference
they are and will show to be a top D this year

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