10 games into the season, where are you?

[Jizz Mop]

Me?

I’m 9-8, 8-9…..if we make playoffs we are one and done, but I don’t think this team plays with any kind of consistency that would make anyone optimistic

We will know a lot more at the conclusion of this next 3-game stretch

Things I think I know:

Tomlin still sucks
Austin blows
Smith is mediocre to poor

We fucked up not getting a WR2

If Jones actually pans out, we have a nice young nucleus of oline talent

The Outlier keeps becoming more impressive

Slay sucks and Pierre is our best cover corner

Ramsey and Dugger are a nice back end, I thought we were toast when Elliot went down

Harmon is gonna be a really good player for years to come

DK needs more targets

We will go into the 26 draft not knowing what we have w Howard

Jizz

[gojira5150]

Me?

I’m 9-8, 8-9…..if we make playoffs we are one and done, but I don’t think this team plays with any kind of consistency that would make anyone optimistic

We will know a lot more at the conclusion of this next 3-game stretch

Things I think I know:

Tomlin still sucks
Austin blows
Smith is mediocre to poor

We fucked up not getting a WR2

If Jones actually pans out, we have a nice young nucleus of oline talent

The Outlier keeps becoming more impressive

Slay sucks and Pierre is our best cover corner

Ramsey and Dugger are a nice back end, I thought we were toast when Elliot went down

Harmon is gonna be a really good player for years to come

DK needs more targets

We will go into the 26 draft not knowing what we have w Howard

Jizz

Nothing else needs to be said. 100% spot on. Can't believe these Monkeys took 3 years to get the outlier involved in the offensive game plan. The biggest mismatch in the Redzone, especially at the 5 yard line.

[W&M_Steeler]

I am realizing STD was ahead of the curve- he's been criticizing Low Watt and hyping the Outlier unironically for a few seasons now.

[CKSteeler]

I am realizing STD was ahead of the curve- he's been criticizing Low Watt and hyping the Outlier unironically for a few seasons now.

You're not ahead of the curve when you criticize a player dominating in his prime and then claim you were right when his play declines as he ages. Every NFL player declines as they age.

[tbsteel]

in hell.

[SteelerDayTrader]

I am realizing STD was ahead of the curve- he's been criticizing Low Watt and hyping the Outlier unironically for a few seasons now.

Was ????

IS

I could have this team 15M under the cap and winning a playoff game or two in one offseason

[W&M_Steeler]

I am realizing STD was ahead of the curve- he's been criticizing Low Watt and hyping the Outlier unironically for a few seasons now.

You're not ahead of the curve when you criticize a player dominating in his prime and then claim you were right when his play declines as he ages. Every NFL player declines as they age.

Calling out TJ for primarily being a stat-focused self promoter who is more interested in accolades and money than winning seems pretty ahead of the curve to me.

[W&M_Steeler]

I am realizing STD was ahead of the curve- he's been criticizing Low Watt and hyping the Outlier unironically for a few seasons now.

Was ????

IS

I could have this team 15M under the cap and winning a playoff game or two in one offseason

was and is I meant

[Steel Ubaldo]

Right now I am NHALSing like a mofo

I am 3 wins away from cashing on my NHALS bet

[drmalba]

I am realizing STD was ahead of the curve- he's been criticizing Low Watt and hyping the Outlier unironically for a few seasons now.

Was ????

IS

I could have this team 15M under the cap and winning a playoff game or two in one offseason

The rule is puff puff PASS.

[StillerDownSouth]

Right now I am NHALSing like a mofo

I am 3 wins away from cashing on my NHALS bet

This is where I'm at, 9 wins cashes my NHALS bet, and 10 wins with a split against Baltimore prob wins me my division winner bet...Steelers are mediocre to marginally above mediocre in a league full of teams that are the exact same, each year there are 3-5 really good teams that have good coaching and usually a great QB that have a legit shot to win a championship, the Steelers have neither good coaching or a great QB, therefore I really just watch because they've been my team for 52 years and will continue to be my team. I don't like to see them lose, but the realist in me knows that its ok to have a stinker of a season every now and then, just to reap the high draft picks, especially when you need a new QB, but unfortunately, one of Tomlin's greatest skills is to always have a high floor / low ceiling team, meaning he's a good coach if NHALS is your desired result, which evidently Art's desired result has and always will be NHALS.

[CKSteeler]

I am realizing STD was ahead of the curve- he's been criticizing Low Watt and hyping the Outlier unironically for a few seasons now.

You're not ahead of the curve when you criticize a player dominating in his prime and then claim you were right when his play declines as he ages. Every NFL player declines as they age.

Calling out TJ for primarily being a stat-focused self promoter who is more interested in accolades and money than winning seems pretty ahead of the curve to me.

You might as well say this about every single Steeler who has played for Tomlin since 2010. Any FA who has signed. Anyone who has signed an extension etc.

There's no actual basis for this claim and being that bitter and resentful that Watt defends Tomlin is absurd given the context. It's especially funny because STD's sorry ass was defending Tomlin religiously on this board up until last year claiming that people who were critical of him didn't know anything about football and/or they were racist.

[tbsteel]

I am realizing STD was ahead of the curve- he's been criticizing Low Watt and hyping the Outlier unironically for a few seasons now.

Was ????

IS

I could have this team 15M under the cap and winning a playoff game or two in one offseason

Take notes, gang.

This is the motherfucking SteelerFury Best Poster Award Winner.

When he loves a player, write that shit down and put that little note under your pillow at night. When you awake in the morning, you'll find that the note will be gone but in its place a pile of heavily damp gray pubes. Next, you're gonna need a spaghetti pot and lots of garlic....

[Deebo]

You're not ahead of the curve when you criticize a player dominating in his prime and then claim you were right when his play declines as he ages. Every NFL player declines as they age.

Calling out TJ for primarily being a stat-focused self promoter who is more interested in accolades and money than winning seems pretty ahead of the curve to me.

You might as well say this about every single Steeler who has played for Tomlin since 2010. Any FA who has signed. Anyone who has signed an extension etc.

There's no actual basis for this claim and being that bitter and resentful that Watt defends Tomlin is absurd given the context. It's especially funny because STD's sorry ass was defending Tomlin religiously on this board up until last year claiming that people who were critical of him didn't know anything about football and/or they were racist.

100%

There are plenty of receipts to prove this.

[franco32]

This isn't our first rodeo. We know how it ends. I'm primarily watching to see how some of the young guys do for the future.

The TJ Watt take is both right and wrong. Was he an all-world elite impact player who forced offenses to devote a lot of resources to him? Of course. He'll be a Hall of Famer for sure. Does that mean he's worthy of the money he got at this age? Not right now. Does that mean he wasn't a kiss-ass enabler of Tomlin? Of course not. TJ and Cam's greatest indictments are the fact that they continually ball-wash Tomlin. Why? Because they know the media will soak it up. They also know it makes them more MARKETABLE OUTSIDE OF FOOTBALL. More commercials. More podcasts. More money.

We have far too many players who were happy settling with mediocrity because it was still good for their pocketbook.

[W&M_Steeler]

This isn't our first rodeo. We know how it ends. I'm primarily watching to see how some of the young guys do for the future.

The TJ Watt take is both right and wrong. Was he an all-world elite impact player who forced offenses to devote a lot of resources to him? Of course. He'll be a Hall of Famer for sure. Does that mean he's worthy of the money he got at this age? Not right now. Does that mean he wasn't a kiss-ass enabler of Tomlin? Of course not. TJ and Cam's greatest indictments are the fact that they continually ball-wash Tomlin. Why? Because they know the media will soak it up. They also know it makes them more MARKETABLE OUTSIDE OF FOOTBALL. More commercials. More podcasts. More money.

We have far too many players who were happy settling with mediocrity because it was still good for their pocketbook.

TJ reportedly not wanting to move around he defense, coupled by his pouting about his money while never contributing to a playoff win and his newfound penchant for taking games off has lowered my estimation of him. I feel like he's more of a glory boy stat hound than a winner. Maybe there was a time that wasn't true, but I think it's showing more and more. No one is saying he sucks (not even STD), but it does feel that he lacks something in his game that guys like James Harrison and Joey Porter had. TJ is like a glorified Lamar Woodley, except at least Lamar had a game winning Super Bowl play. I think the Steelers will regret his extension.

[Deebo]

This isn't our first rodeo. We know how it ends. I'm primarily watching to see how some of the young guys do for the future.

The TJ Watt take is both right and wrong. Was he an all-world elite impact player who forced offenses to devote a lot of resources to him? Of course. He'll be a Hall of Famer for sure. Does that mean he's worthy of the money he got at this age? Not right now. Does that mean he wasn't a kiss-ass enabler of Tomlin? Of course not. TJ and Cam's greatest indictments are the fact that they continually ball-wash Tomlin. Why? Because they know the media will soak it up. They also know it makes them more MARKETABLE OUTSIDE OF FOOTBALL. More commercials. More podcasts. More money.

We have far too many players who were happy settling with mediocrity because it was still good for their pocketbook.

TJ reportedly not wanting to move around he defense, coupled by his pouting about his money while never contributing to a playoff win and his newfound penchant for taking games off has lowered my estimation of him. I feel like he's more of a glory boy stat hound than a winner. Maybe there was a time that wasn't true, but I think it's showing more and more. No one is saying he sucks (not even STD), but it does feel that he lacks something in his game that guys like James Harrison and Joey Porter had. TJ is like a glorified Lamar Woodley, except at least Lamar had a game winning Super Bowl play. I think the Steelers will regret his extension.

TJ used to be a balls to the wall dude who never took a play off. I was satisfied with his efforts up until about late last year.
Now he knows he's never going to win shit, so why bust your ass at all? He's making business decisions now that he's got his contract. He'll make a splash play here or there, but he's not the game wrecker he used to be. It's just going to get worse from here on out.

[W&M_Steeler]

This isn't our first rodeo. We know how it ends. I'm primarily watching to see how some of the young guys do for the future.

The TJ Watt take is both right and wrong. Was he an all-world elite impact player who forced offenses to devote a lot of resources to him? Of course. He'll be a Hall of Famer for sure. Does that mean he's worthy of the money he got at this age? Not right now. Does that mean he wasn't a kiss-ass enabler of Tomlin? Of course not. TJ and Cam's greatest indictments are the fact that they continually ball-wash Tomlin. Why? Because they know the media will soak it up. They also know it makes them more MARKETABLE OUTSIDE OF FOOTBALL. More commercials. More podcasts. More money.

We have far too many players who were happy settling with mediocrity because it was still good for their pocketbook.

TJ reportedly not wanting to move around he defense, coupled by his pouting about his money while never contributing to a playoff win and his newfound penchant for taking games off has lowered my estimation of him. I feel like he's more of a glory boy stat hound than a winner. Maybe there was a time that wasn't true, but I think it's showing more and more. No one is saying he sucks (not even STD), but it does feel that he lacks something in his game that guys like James Harrison and Joey Porter had. TJ is like a glorified Lamar Woodley, except at least Lamar had a game winning Super Bowl play. I think the Steelers will regret his extension.

TJ used to be a balls to the wall dude who never took a play off. I was satisfied with his efforts up until about late last year.
Now he knows he's never going to win shit, so why bust your ass at all? He's making business decisions now that he's got his contract. He'll make a splash play here or there, but he's not the game wrecker he used to be. It's just going to get worse from here on out.

It has been more than a season in my view. He has disappeared down the stretch the past few seasons IIRC. I used to attribute it to injuries and being worn down but now I'm not so sure. When did TJ start appearing in Dick's Sporting Goods TV commercials? Seems to me like those coincided with the start of his transformation to current TJ.

Maybe TJ is pacing himself this season and will be dominant again in late December, who knows.

Bottom line is that TJ and Cam have been the faces of this defense and team since 2019. I assign some of the blame for our current funk to them. It might not be completely fair, but I will have very few fond memories of them, particularly in comparison to the 2000s D. They represent a regrettable era of Steelers football.

[Deebo]

TJ reportedly not wanting to move around he defense, coupled by his pouting about his money while never contributing to a playoff win and his newfound penchant for taking games off has lowered my estimation of him. I feel like he's more of a glory boy stat hound than a winner. Maybe there was a time that wasn't true, but I think it's showing more and more. No one is saying he sucks (not even STD), but it does feel that he lacks something in his game that guys like James Harrison and Joey Porter had. TJ is like a glorified Lamar Woodley, except at least Lamar had a game winning Super Bowl play. I think the Steelers will regret his extension.

TJ used to be a balls to the wall dude who never took a play off. I was satisfied with his efforts up until about late last year.
Now he knows he's never going to win shit, so why bust your ass at all? He's making business decisions now that he's got his contract. He'll make a splash play here or there, but he's not the game wrecker he used to be. It's just going to get worse from here on out.

It has been more than a season in my view. He has disappeared down the stretch the past few seasons IIRC. I used to attribute it to injuries and being worn down but now I'm not so sure. When did TJ start appearing in Dick's Sporting Goods TV commercials? Seems to me like those coincided with the start of his transformation to current TJ.

Maybe TJ is pacing himself this season and will be dominant again in late December, who knows.

Bottom line is that TJ and Cam have been the faces of this defense and team since 2019. I assign some of the blame for our current funk to them. It might not be completely fair, but I will have very few fond memories of them, particularly in comparison to the 2000s D. They represent a regrettable era of Steelers football.

What's laughable in all of this is that Watt and Heyward are 2 perennial all pros, yet Tomlin's defense always got their shit pushed in during the playoffs. Give any other coach 2 of these guys and they would have won something of significance.

Regrettable indeed!

[W&M_Steeler]

TJ used to be a balls to the wall dude who never took a play off. I was satisfied with his efforts up until about late last year.
Now he knows he's never going to win shit, so why bust your ass at all? He's making business decisions now that he's got his contract. He'll make a splash play here or there, but he's not the game wrecker he used to be. It's just going to get worse from here on out.

It has been more than a season in my view. He has disappeared down the stretch the past few seasons IIRC. I used to attribute it to injuries and being worn down but now I'm not so sure. When did TJ start appearing in Dick's Sporting Goods TV commercials? Seems to me like those coincided with the start of his transformation to current TJ.

Maybe TJ is pacing himself this season and will be dominant again in late December, who knows.

Bottom line is that TJ and Cam have been the faces of this defense and team since 2019. I assign some of the blame for our current funk to them. It might not be completely fair, but I will have very few fond memories of them, particularly in comparison to the 2000s D. They represent a regrettable era of Steelers football.

What's laughable in all of this is that Watt and Heyward are 2 perennial all pros, yet Tomlin's defense always got their shit pushed in during the playoffs. Give any other coach 2 of these guys and they would have won something of significance.

Regrettable indeed!

The 2020 playoff game against the Browns was the ultimate turning point for this group. Sure, the offense crapped the bed in the 1st quarter. But the defense couldn't make a stop anytime the game started to get close. Some here blame it all on Cassius Marsh, but the Browns had multiple back-ups starting on their Oline (one guy was brand new to the team that week) and still dominated despite the Steelers starting two Hall of Famers in their prime in the defensive front 7. Tomlin and Co bear a lot of the blame, but Cam and TJ are also responsible in part for this

[rooneytunes]

We make the Elite 8

[955876]

I am realizing STD was ahead of the curve- he's been criticizing Low Watt and hyping the Outlier unironically for a few seasons now.

You're not ahead of the curve when you criticize a player dominating in his prime and then claim you were right when his play declines as he ages. Every NFL player declines as they age.

And, he didn’t just hype Washington, he had him as a top 5 pick.

[anpsteel]

Of the remaining seven games, there are probably only two that they will be favored to win

They are underdogs against the Bears and will be against the bills ravens and Lions

If they win three games, which of course is the NHALS objective, that might be the best they can do

Does 9–8 get them a wild card? Probably not.

They need to win at least one against the ravens to win the division, at 10 -7

Winning the division is likely their only path to the playoffs

At the moment, if they are the number four seed as the division winner, they’d likely play either the Chargers or the bills in the playoffs

That’s not a high probability win

[W&M_Steeler]

I am realizing STD was ahead of the curve- he's been criticizing Low Watt and hyping the Outlier unironically for a few seasons now.

You're not ahead of the curve when you criticize a player dominating in his prime and then claim you were right when his play declines as he ages. Every NFL player declines as they age.

And, he didn’t just hype Washington, he had him as a top 5 pick.

Eh, real NFL GMs make weirder decisions. Kyle Pitts was a #4 overall pick recently and I'd rather have Washington.

[Gonzo]

this season all comes down to the Ravens games
Ravens have easier schedule -- I assume they win the easy ones and split the packers/patriots
that makes them 9-6 (aside from steelers games)
Steelers most likely lose bills and lions and will give them a split on bears/dolphins (I think they blow one of these two) and beat the browns
that makes them 8-7 (aside from Ravens games)
so steelers need to beat ravens twice or steal game from bears/bills/or lions or hope rats lose both packers and patriots
no matter the mix of W-L seems aside from head-to-head these two teams will be within one game of each other
it is possible tow win both games (but unlikely IM)) as I have watched ravens a bit and lamar looks different -- dont know if its injury, lost a step already, or is trying to be a different kind of QB as he ages. But, Ravens are far more creative on O than Steelers which gives them an edge.
my thought is steelers MUST win one of next two games as if they go into baltimore at 6-6 the Slide will be On

[steelmann58]

We can be behind 2 games them and need to win those 2 games

[Gonzo]

We can be behind 2 games them and need to win those 2 games

That’s true
One or two games back we need to win both