George Pickens

[swissvale72]

Imploded yet??

[TimmayLake]

The only thing he's imploding is the stat sheet.

He's going out perform the Steelers #1 and #2 WRs COMBINED.

But I've heard he has a bad attitude, so fuck'em?

[Steeldrama]

Imploded yet??

Well

He was benched for the first series last night so it’s not all sunshine and roses

[TimmayLake]

Even with the benching 9 catches for 144 yards and a TD is better than any Steelers WR has done this year...

[swissvale72]

The ESPN crew were just commenting on what a stupid fucking trade this was by the Steelers, although Tomlin ass kiss her Mike Greenwell says something like he's not going to doubt that decision-making by the management of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[.Kodiak]

This is all pipe-dream revisionist history.

On the Steelers, Pickens WOULD be sulking and fussing over lack of targets. Arthur Smith's offense is very #2 receiver unfriendly.

[Orangesteel]

Pickens is a freak. Super talented. Steelers botched this one big time. Turns out Tomlin is not the leader of men.

[Steeldrama]

This is all pipe-dream revisionist history.

On the Steelers, Pickens WOULD be sulking and fussing over lack of targets. Arthur Smith's offense is very #2 receiver unfriendly.

^^^
This

[Mick]

Curious what good #2 WRs struggled under OC (/HC) arthur smith.

[swissvale72]

This is all pipe-dream revisionist history.

On the Steelers, Pickens WOULD be sulking and fussing over lack of targets. Arthur Smith's offense is very #2 receiver unfriendly.

^^^
This

Revisionist?? so we really didn't see Pickens contorting himself to make impossible fucking catches last year or to catch a game winners against the Raiders on Christmas Eve or against the ravens with a minute remaining the following season or the 86 yard catch and run to open up against the Bengals at the close of 23 season?? So that shit didn't really happen??

The trade of George Pickens for a third round draft pick ranks right up there with the dumping of Santonio Holmes and the buddy dial for nothing trade as the worst trades in steeler history

[Gonzo]

This is all pipe-dream revisionist history.

On the Steelers, Pickens WOULD be sulking and fussing over lack of targets. Arthur Smith's offense is very #2 receiver unfriendly.

this is it
Cowboys chuck the ball around and his talents are used and there are plenty of balls to go around
steelers were not going to use him like that -- maybe 50-60 catches and a few sideline lobs per game
he would have pouted here but its not necessarily because he is always awful ... he didnt want to be here under our current O scheme

[Sir Lambert]

I think they needed to get rid of him. When you have a player like that, you don't have a team, even if that player is good at catching a ball.

[Stosh-67]

as i stated in the Week 11 thread.

Pickens with 6 for 100+ and a TD in first half.

55 catches on the year

7th TD of season. Steelers wrs have 10 combined.
He may be hitting 1000 yards next week.

* he would not have half these numbers on Pittsburgh

I do not know too many WR's that would be happy with this offense, philosophy, game planning, play calling, etc.
Its not only the place WR go to suffer....
But its an offense that requires the QB to have a high level of health insurance if not long term disability insurance.
With a bottom line of it being an offense that is not designed to score a lot of point = mediocre football = .500 = playoff abominations.

[StillerDownSouth]

This is all pipe-dream revisionist history.

On the Steelers, Pickens WOULD be sulking and fussing over lack of targets. Arthur Smith's offense is very #2 receiver unfriendly.

this is it
Cowboys chuck the ball around and his talents are used and there are plenty of balls to go around
steelers were not going to use him like that -- maybe 50-60 catches and a few sideline lobs per game
he would have pouted here but its not necessarily because he is always awful ... he didnt want to be here under our current O scheme

Until Tomlin and Dunce are gone, really no need to have anything other than receivers who can block. If I was a WR, Pittsburgh would be the last team in the league I would want to play for under the current regime.

[Gonzo]

as i stated in the Week 11 thread.

Pickens with 6 for 100+ and a TD in first half.

55 catches on the year

7th TD of season. Steelers wrs have 10 combined.
He may be hitting 1000 yards next week.

* he would not have half these numbers on Pittsburgh

I do not know too many WR's that would be happy with this offense, philosophy, game planning, play calling, etc.
Its not only the place WR go to suffer....
But its an offense that requires the QB to have a high level of health insurance if not long term disability insurance.
With a bottom line of it being an offense that is not designed to score a lot of point = mediocre football = .500 = playoff abominations.

young quality WRs are not going to want to be here -- they are looking for C2 and they wont get the numbers they are capable of and risk whims of being a non-factor. We will get C2 and C3 guys we have to pay top dollar for that are content to play out the string under a nice contract -- Metcalf.
We will get these type guys and young WRs like Austin or Wilson who are just happy to have a job or re-treads also happy to have a job. And the Steelers are fine with this situation because its a choice.
Not a complaint about or O -- just reality.

[955876]

I think they needed to get rid of him. When you have a player like that, you don't have a team, even if that player is good at catching a ball.

What kind of team do we have now?

I mean, we have a choir boy in Captain Scam Heyward serving as Jibba’s right hand man leading the defense and look what those turds have out on tape several times this year.

[Steelperch]

This is all pipe-dream revisionist history.

On the Steelers, Pickens WOULD be sulking and fussing over lack of targets. Arthur Smith's offense is very #2 receiver unfriendly.

The solution to that is to get rid of the coaching staff that doesn’t value the modern NFL passing game, not the top 10 talent WR who just wants to catch some fucking passes.

[Stosh-67]

Gonna be real interesting to see what the Boys do if George continues to add to what he is projected thru 17 games.

95+ - 1500+ and 12.

even if he slows down a bit....
80 -1,400 and 10.

Cowboys gonna shell out another $125million plus to WR #2.?

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id ... eedee-lamb

CeeDee Lamb signed a 4 year, $136,000,000 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including $38,000,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $34,000,000. In 2025, Lamb will earn a base salary of $1,850,000, a restructure bonus of $25,000,000 and a workout bonus of $7,560, while carrying a cap hit of $15,339,913 and a dead cap value of $84,257,560.

Nice bargain they have with 24 year old workhorse Javonte William at $3 mil on one year deal

[langer]

Arthur Smith's offense is very #2 receiver unfriendly.

Wideouts come to Pittsburgh to die.

Wasn't always that way, but under Captain Mike and his band of drooling morons, it is.

[955876]

This is all pipe-dream revisionist history.

On the Steelers, Pickens WOULD be sulking and fussing over lack of targets. Arthur Smith's offense is very #2 receiver unfriendly.

^^^
This

To me this is a Pittsburgh problem and not a WR problem.

Unless we plan on always putting Scrub McSuckins at WR2 maybe we should revisit this stupid offensive strategy that favors scrubs like Conner Heyward over a legit #2 WR.

[TimmayLake]

LOL @ people doing mental backflips to convince themselves that it's good that we traded Pickens because he's too good to afford him

This isn't exactly a team overflowing with receiving talent. If Pickens has 1500 yards 10 TDs it would be the smart move to pay the man and not give Scam or The Jogger another $80,000,000 extension.

[CKSteeler]

He was benched along with Lamb to start the game as has been mentioned. He's in a contract year and can't even dot his i's and cross his t's on a team that is feeding him the ball the way he should want.

Should the Steelers have sucked it up and kept him rather than trade him for a measly 3rd rounder? Yea, probably if they were really going all in on this season as every other move suggests. But Pickens was not a part of the long term plan here and for good reason. He's not the sort of guy you pay. I don't even care if you have a franchise QB. Short of selling your soul to use him to help get a ring, he's a clown you don't want around.

I don't know what Dallas is really getting out of this trade, either, besides some fun highlight plays that no one will remember and undoubtedly headaches behind the scenes.

I'm firmly in the camp that yes Pickens will implode and fuck up his career. Doesn't mean it's going to happen overnight like it did with Brown (who was given repeated chances to fuck up post-Pittsburgh, as I'm sure Pickens will).

But bottom line is who the fuck cares about any of this? Put Pickens on this team and they're no closer to being a contender than they are now. They're ceiling is still a first round playoff debacle. The Steelers plan makes no fucking sense overall is a larger overarching argument to make, but again...we already knew that. They're fucking idiots.

[CKSteeler]

The one thing I will say positive about Pickens is that he's showing he's not some #2. He's better than Metcalf and should have been the #1 option here. But again, it wouldn't have moved the needle for this team.

[TimmayLake]

What does "implode" mean? Just having a few diva moments or a bad attitude is par for the course for ANY top WR. It's part of what makes them competitive.

Unless Pickens misses multiple games due solely to his conduct I don't consider that an implosion.

[CKSteeler]

Implosion means his ass will be out of the league somewhere in his second contract.

[TimmayLake]

Implosion means his ass will be out of the league somewhere in his second contract.

I bet this doesn't happen

[955876]

Implosion means his ass will be out of the league somewhere in his second contract.

Who cares???

He should have been retained if this team was really “all-in”.

If he pouts and causes problems in his co tract year you bench him and role CAIII or Wilson out there like you’ve been doing anyways

What happens to him during contract 2 is not our problem as we would t be giving him a new deal.

He is being a good soldier though this year because even idiot diva malcontent dipshits know to behave in their contract year.

Just like I said he would when we pulled off that dumb trade.

Look at us now, still like pulling teeth to love the ball and still searching for another WR.

But but but Arthur Smiff.

Their lack of involving a #2 is their own making and could easily be fixed.

[langer]

Chase Claypool's out of the league.

Pittsburgh is death for WRs.

He wasn't very good to begin with and needed lots of coaching and guidance. Can't get that here.

[swissvale72]

Implosion means his ass will be out of the league somewhere in his second contract.

Who cares???

He should have been retained if this team was really “all-in”.

If he pouts and causes problems in his co tract year you bench him and role CAIII or Wilson out there like you’ve been doing anyways

What happens to him during contract 2 is not our problem as we would t be giving him a new deal.

He is being a good soldier though this year because even idiot diva malcontent dipshits know to behave in their contract year.

Just like I said he would when we pulled off that dumb trade.

Look at us now, still like pulling teeth to love the ball and still searching for another WR.

But but but Arthur Smiff.

Their lack of involving a #2 is their own making and could easily be fixed.

VERY reminiscent of Santonio Holmes with the Jets in 2010. And we certainly could have used him during that Chinese fire drill of a final possession in the SB, down 6 points.

[LakecrestSteeler]

This is all pipe-dream revisionist history.

On the Steelers, Pickens WOULD be sulking and fussing over lack of targets. Arthur Smith's offense is very #2 receiver unfriendly.

The solution to that is to get rid of the coaching staff that doesn’t value the modern NFL passing game, not the top 10 talent WR who just wants to catch some fucking passes.

Get rid of the coaching staff that doesn't want to prevent defensive injuries by having offensive prowess!

Get rid of the coaching staff that doesn't want to improve defensive prowess by increasing offensive prowess.

Mike Tomlin probably: "OMG...you can spend money on offense and change offensive philosophy and improve the defense?" If only we had recent examples of that in Steeler lore...84 + 7 or some math like that.