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Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:55 am
by Orangesteel
What kind of sick nightmare sequence is this?

They shitcanned Mayo and went and got their guy.

Imagine being a fan of an organization that isn’t complacent after winning 7 super bowls in the last 20 years.

Everything sucks. Tomlin’s “legacy” will doom this franchise for years to come.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:57 am
by StillerDownSouth
And they fired Belichek after it was obvious he wasn’t the answer anymore, if anyone should have been able to go out on their terms it probably should have been Belicheck. All these damn talking heads saying the Steelers can’t fire Tomlin, I ask why the fuck not?

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:58 am
by bradshaw2ben
Shit... we had Vrabel in the building, barely put him on the field, and tossed him out like trash. he went to NE and took off, becoming a defensive (and occasional offensive) stud for them.

Imagine if Kevin Dotson or Robert Spillane become a Head Coach someday. Kind of like that.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:02 am
by Steelperch
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:58 am
Shit... we had Vrabel in the building, barely put him on the field, and tossed him out like trash. he went to NE and took off, becoming a defensive (and occasional offensive) stud for them.

Imagine if Kevin Dotson or Robert Spillane become a Head Coach someday. Kind of like that.
What’s even worse is after Ben retired, I screamed that they needed to gut the roster and rebuild from scratch. Instead they doubled down on high priced veteran free agents and past their prime big name QBs. We sit here heading into 2026 without single star on the roster under 26 and zero quality coaches anywhere on the roster.

They now need a bigger tear down and rebuild than they needed when Ben retired. Problem is, I don’t know if the organization has the stomach to do what needs done.

I hate these assholes.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:05 am
by StillerDownSouth
It’s hard to tell the talent they have because the coaching and schematics have been so gawd awful the last 10 years, hire the right coach and some of the young guys might improve tons.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:07 am
by bradshaw2ben
Steelperch wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:02 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:58 am
Shit... we had Vrabel in the building, barely put him on the field, and tossed him out like trash. he went to NE and took off, becoming a defensive (and occasional offensive) stud for them.

Imagine if Kevin Dotson or Robert Spillane become a Head Coach someday. Kind of like that.
What’s even worse is after Ben retired, I screamed that they needed to gut the roster and rebuild from scratch. Instead they doubled down on high priced veteran free agents and past their prime big name QBs. We sit here heading into 2026 without single star on the roster under 26 and zero quality coaches anywhere on the roster.

They now need a bigger tear down and rebuild than they needed when Ben retired. Problem is, I don’t know if the organization has the stomach to do what needs done.

I hate these assholes.
It's 1969, or as close as we're going to get to it in the post-1972 era of Steelers football.

Change the Owner in charge. Change the HC. Change the staff. Change the mentality/culture. Change the front office decision-making. Do it all at once.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:09 am
by Orangesteel
Agreed. We’ve essentially delayed a rebuild for 5 seasons because of Tomlin’s dumb fat ego, one-liners and platitudes. He’s shown he’s incapable of drafting properly, building a defense and attracting up and coming young assistants who then go on to their own coaching careers.

It’s the equivalent of patchwork siding replacements and a few new windows when they entire structure needed to be torn down to the studs and reconstructed.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:22 am
by Dan Smith--BYU
Beautiful TD to Williams by Maye.=

Rodgers must be hating Tomlin and Smith in his dreams by now.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:27 am
by Steelperch
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:07 am
Steelperch wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:02 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:58 am
Shit... we had Vrabel in the building, barely put him on the field, and tossed him out like trash. he went to NE and took off, becoming a defensive (and occasional offensive) stud for them.

Imagine if Kevin Dotson or Robert Spillane become a Head Coach someday. Kind of like that.
What’s even worse is after Ben retired, I screamed that they needed to gut the roster and rebuild from scratch. Instead they doubled down on high priced veteran free agents and past their prime big name QBs. We sit here heading into 2026 without single star on the roster under 26 and zero quality coaches anywhere on the roster.

They now need a bigger tear down and rebuild than they needed when Ben retired. Problem is, I don’t know if the organization has the stomach to do what needs done.

I hate these assholes.
It's 1969, or as close as we're going to get to it in the post-1972 era of Steelers football.

Change the Owner in charge. Change the HC. Change the staff. Change the mentality/culture. Change the front office decision-making. Do it all at once.
The mentality of our “stars” is another thing that is upsetting. Remember back when the Bettis, Ward, Farrior, Smith bunch had been around for a while and won some divisions and playoff games but never won a SB. Those guy were hungry. They were pissed when they fell short. I see none of that fire from the Watt/Heyward bunch. Soft ass leaders with no heart. Fuck them and they need to be sent packing with Tomlin.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:31 am
by DumlinBumlinStumlin
StillerDownSouth wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:57 am
And they fired Belichek after it was obvious he wasn’t the answer anymore, if anyone should have been able to go out on their terms it probably should have been Belicheck. All these damn talking heads saying the Steelers can’t fire Tomlin, I ask why the fuck not?
Ditto x1000

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:33 am
by DumlinBumlinStumlin
Steelperch wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:27 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:07 am
Steelperch wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:02 am


What’s even worse is after Ben retired, I screamed that they needed to gut the roster and rebuild from scratch. Instead they doubled down on high priced veteran free agents and past their prime big name QBs. We sit here heading into 2026 without single star on the roster under 26 and zero quality coaches anywhere on the roster.

They now need a bigger tear down and rebuild than they needed when Ben retired. Problem is, I don’t know if the organization has the stomach to do what needs done.

I hate these assholes.
It's 1969, or as close as we're going to get to it in the post-1972 era of Steelers football.

Change the Owner in charge. Change the HC. Change the staff. Change the mentality/culture. Change the front office decision-making. Do it all at once.
The mentality of our “stars” is another thing that is upsetting. Remember back when the Bettis, Ward, Farrior, Smith bunch had been around for a while and won some divisions and playoff games but never won a SB. Those guy were hungry. They were pissed when they fell short. I see none of that fire from the Watt/Heyward bunch. Soft ass leaders with no heart. Fuck them and they need to be sent packing with Tomlin.
I posted something last night about how Chuck Noll moved out veterans and long time malcontents in 1969-1970

Looks like I accidentally deleted it

If we are lucky to get a change. I’d like to see the new guy jettison most of this team

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 3:26 am
by Orangesteel
Let’s trade Tomlin to the Giant for Franz Kafka, straight up.

I actually like what Kafka does on offense I think they are going to be good when the stars are back next year.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 3:55 am
by CoolShades
Steelperch wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:27 am

The mentality of our “stars” is another thing that is upsetting. Remember back when the Bettis, Ward, Farrior, Smith bunch had been around for a while and won some divisions and playoff games but never won a SB. Those guy were hungry. They were pissed when they fell short. I see none of that fire from the Watt/Heyward bunch. Soft ass leaders with no heart. Fuck them and they need to be sent packing with Tomlin.

Agreed.

Both Heyward and Watt are massive disappointments and a big reason why this team has no heart, no fire, no win-at-all-costs mentality. They are two effeminate clowns who only care about personal accolades and money. tWatt with his stats and big dick contract, and Captain sCam with his WPMOTY and his pathetic podcast. Neither one are leaders. Imagine Jack Lambert working hard to perfect his Rockette leg kick sack dance like tWatt, and pouting like a bitch if he didn’t get the DPOTY award. Imagine Joe Greene crying that a QB “kneed” him in the stomach during a post-game press conference, after spending the entire 4 quarters bitching about it to the refs and anyone who would listen.

My god, the soy and the entitlement oozes out of both of them. Rookies learn what exactly from these two? Kiss Jibb’s ass and you can have a roster spot for life? Make no waves and your future will include easy practices, no stress, and massive contracts! It’s the New Steeler Way.

They think, like their fraud coach, that Canton is assured. Well, we’ll see. But the reason the Noll players of the 70’s and the Cowher players of the 2000’s are legends and are remembered is because of the effort, the Super Bowls and post-season success. These two clowns have made more money than any of those guys and have added nothing to the organization’s championship legacy. Neither one gives a shit about winning. Heyward crying like a bitch about a knee to the stomach that no one can seem to see on any video replay anywhere was pathetic, and Watt limping off the field after someone stepped on his foot was just TJ’s way to save face after failing to make any impact against two practice squad tackles. Both are overpaid, underachieving douchbags, just like their coach. And like their coach, they’ve been instrumental in destroying the tough, proud, winning culture of the organization.

Sustained mediocrity and post-season failure. That’s their legacy. They can’t leave soon enough.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:00 am
by RealSwiss
Hard to believe Vrabel was basically unemployed last year.

Patriots were 4-13 last year I think. Now with the same quarterback and new head coach, they're on a ten game winning streak.

I can't remember if there was any interest in him from the Steelers for any type of assistant or coaching role after his TN firing, He didn't interview or anything, did he? I know Id seen his name kicked around there but don't know details.

Yet another Steelers what-if. Thats how Im starting to see the Tomlin Steelers - a continuous string of wasted/ignored opportunities.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:23 am
by AirRescueFF
https://x.com/NFL_Memes/status/19957020 ... bkSYQ&s=19


Our real fanbase can absolutely relate to this, but for the past decade.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 9:53 am
by langer
Mayo was their Coach T, he started out with focusing on Current Topics, barely mentioned football.

He was tasked with rebuilding, failed spectacularly like a certain Coach T, and they had a moment of clarity and got rid of the cancer.

Fascinating.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:48 pm
by .Kodiak
StillerDownSouth wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:05 am
It’s hard to tell the talent they have because the coaching and schematics have been so gawd awful the last 10 years, hire the right coach and some of the young guys might improve tons.
This X1000.

People forget that the guy who really saved NHALS in 2019 was Fitzpatrick. And then we schemed the playmaker out of him, decided he was overpaid, and traded him.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:50 pm
by .Kodiak
RealSwiss wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:00 am
Hard to believe Vrabel was basically unemployed last year.

Patriots were 4-13 last year I think. Now with the same quarterback and new head coach, they're on a ten game winning streak.

I can't remember if there was any interest in him from the Steelers for any type of assistant or coaching role after his TN firing, He didn't interview or anything, did he? I know Id seen his name kicked around there but don't know details.

Yet another Steelers what-if. Thats how Im starting to see the Tomlin Steelers - a continuous string of wasted/ignored opportunities.
My gawd we could have traded Tomlin to CHI last year and signed Ben Johnson. :oops: :oops: :oops:

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:35 pm
by anpsteel
Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:55 am
What kind of sick nightmare sequence is this?

They shitcanned Mayo and went and got their guy.

Imagine being a fan of an organization that isn’t complacent after winning 7 super bowls in the last 20 years.

Everything sucks. Tomlin’s “legacy” will doom this franchise for years to come.
Isn't that an incredible concept

lol

I wish someone would wave the Patriot's coaching moves in Art's face daily.

They fired Belichick who is exponentially better than Tomlin in strategy and performance-

Canned the mistake after one season, to get the guy they wanted, and are now much better positioned.

Side note- letting Vrabel walk isn't George Pickens level stupid, but it's probably in the top 5 bad personnel decisions by this franchise

Poor decision making list:

1. Johnny Unitas
2. Len Dawson
3. Mike Merriweather
4. Hardy Nickerson
5. Probably George Pickens... but Vrabel is in contention

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 9:26 pm
by gojira5150
anpsteel wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:35 pm
Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:55 am
What kind of sick nightmare sequence is this?

They shitcanned Mayo and went and got their guy.

Imagine being a fan of an organization that isn’t complacent after winning 7 super bowls in the last 20 years.

Everything sucks. Tomlin’s “legacy” will doom this franchise for years to come.
Isn't that an incredible concept

lol

I wish someone would wave the Patriot's coaching moves in Art's face daily.

They fired Belichick who is exponentially better than Tomlin in strategy and performance-

Canned the mistake after one season, to get the guy they wanted, and are now much better positioned.

Side note- letting Vrabel walk isn't George Pickens level stupid, but it's probably in the top 5 bad personnel decisions by this franchise

Poor decision making list:

1. Johnny Unitas
2. Len Dawson
3. Mike Merriweather
4. Hardy Nickerson
5. Probably George Pickens... but Vrabel is in contention
Rod Woodson - Can you add his name as well. I was PO'd when that happened

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 9:30 pm
by R_S
StillerDownSouth wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:57 am
And they fired Belichek after it was obvious he wasn’t the answer anymore, if anyone should have been able to go out on their terms it probably should have been Belicheck. All these damn talking heads saying the Steelers can’t fire Tomlin, I ask why the fuck not?
Talk about moments you want to throw your TV out the window. That was when Herm Edwards, one of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet, said "who you gonna get" when they were discussing the possibility of moving on from Tomlin.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 9:36 pm
by swissvale72
gojira5150 wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 9:26 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:35 pm
Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:55 am
What kind of sick nightmare sequence is this?

They shitcanned Mayo and went and got their guy.

Imagine being a fan of an organization that isn’t complacent after winning 7 super bowls in the last 20 years.

Everything sucks. Tomlin’s “legacy” will doom this franchise for years to come.
Isn't that an incredible concept

lol

I wish someone would wave the Patriot's coaching moves in Art's face daily.

They fired Belichick who is exponentially better than Tomlin in strategy and performance-

Canned the mistake after one season, to get the guy they wanted, and are now much better positioned.

Side note- letting Vrabel walk isn't George Pickens level stupid, but it's probably in the top 5 bad personnel decisions by this franchise

Poor decision making list:

1. Johnny Unitas
2. Len Dawson
3. Mike Merriweather
4. Hardy Nickerson
5. Probably George Pickens... but Vrabel is in contention
Rod Woodson - Can you add his name as well. I was PO'd when that happened
At, or near top of list, are Santonio Holmes for a bucket of mud, and buddy dial for nothing trades.

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 10:28 pm
by anpsteel
gojira5150 wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 9:26 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:35 pm
Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 1:55 am
What kind of sick nightmare sequence is this?

They shitcanned Mayo and went and got their guy.

Imagine being a fan of an organization that isn’t complacent after winning 7 super bowls in the last 20 years.

Everything sucks. Tomlin’s “legacy” will doom this franchise for years to come.
Isn't that an incredible concept

lol

I wish someone would wave the Patriot's coaching moves in Art's face daily.

They fired Belichick who is exponentially better than Tomlin in strategy and performance-

Canned the mistake after one season, to get the guy they wanted, and are now much better positioned.

Side note- letting Vrabel walk isn't George Pickens level stupid, but it's probably in the top 5 bad personnel decisions by this franchise

Poor decision making list:

1. Johnny Unitas
2. Len Dawson
3. Mike Merriweather
4. Hardy Nickerson
5. Probably George Pickens... but Vrabel is in contention
Rod Woodson - Can you add his name as well. I was PO'd when that happened
Oh man, how did I forget Woodson.

Rod was my favorite player on that team, and I was seriously annoyed

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 10:30 pm
by anpsteel
swissvale72 wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 9:36 pm
gojira5150 wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 9:26 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:35 pm


Isn't that an incredible concept

lol

I wish someone would wave the Patriot's coaching moves in Art's face daily.

They fired Belichick who is exponentially better than Tomlin in strategy and performance-

Canned the mistake after one season, to get the guy they wanted, and are now much better positioned.

Side note- letting Vrabel walk isn't George Pickens level stupid, but it's probably in the top 5 bad personnel decisions by this franchise

Poor decision making list:

1. Johnny Unitas
2. Len Dawson
3. Mike Merriweather
4. Hardy Nickerson
5. Probably George Pickens... but Vrabel is in contention
Rod Woodson - Can you add his name as well. I was PO'd when that happened
At, or near top of list, are Santonio Holmes for a bucket of mud, and buddy dial for nothing trades.
IIRC Holmes only had one decent season with the Jets before his essentially career ending Lis Franc

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:09 am
by Steeldrama
https://x.com/BaldyNFL/status/1995669511358320743?s=20

Pats linebacker Christian Ellis

Proud carrier of the bad motherfucker wallet

Re: Patriots are Awesome Again and We Are Stuck With Tomlin

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:30 am
by 955876
.Kodiak wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:48 pm
StillerDownSouth wrote:
Tue Dec 02, 2025 2:05 am
It’s hard to tell the talent they have because the coaching and schematics have been so gawd awful the last 10 years, hire the right coach and some of the young guys might improve tons.
This X1000.

People forget that the guy who really saved NHALS in 2019 was Fitzpatrick. And then we schemed the playmaker out of him, decided he was overpaid, and traded him.
Dumbest and most pathetically desperate trade ever. And all done to preserve some meaningless record.

There is NO WAY this team thought it could win that season by adding Minkah given the garbage they had at QB.

That was just soooo dumb and short sighted.