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Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:00 am
by Jizz Mop
On this weeks episode of “Did you know Tomlin is a dumb ass?”
We had 3 4th qtr drives
Zero first downs
All three resulted in punts
We netted 3 total yards in the 4th qtr
But yet there are STILL defenders of this fucking idiot?
Play to fucking win. We don’t live in our fears right? But this shit continues year after year.
So fucking sick of sweating out a lead…his “strategy” should have backfired. That was a TD.
Fucking imbecile.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:03 am
by Steeldrama
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:13 am
by langer
He’s such a jackass that he does this over and over and still wonders why they lose games.
Is he one of the dumbest HCs to ever exist? Twenty years of the same shit. He can’t learn.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:14 am
by Jizz Mop
Only because we applied late time pressure
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:16 am
by Jizz Mop
langer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:13 am
He’s such a jackass that he does this over and over and still wonders why they lose games.
Is he one of the dumbest HCs to ever exist? Twenty years of the same shit. He can’t learn.
He’s inadequate in a lot of areas
Most would improve with an 18-19 year body of work if you will
Not our guy
Stubborn and stupid - a winning combo
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:19 am
by Steeldrama
But, But, WE WON!!!

Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:20 am
by langer
Jizz Mop wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:16 am
langer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:13 am
He’s such a jackass that he does this over and over and still wonders why they lose games.
Is he one of the dumbest HCs to ever exist? Twenty years of the same shit. He can’t learn.
He’s inadequate in a lot of areas
Most would improve with an 18-19 year body of work if you will
Not our guy
Stubborn and stupid - a winning combo
Include egotistical and arrogant while being clueless.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:31 am
by Jizz Mop
langer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:20 am
Jizz Mop wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:16 am
langer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:13 am
He’s such a jackass that he does this over and over and still wonders why they lose games.
Is he one of the dumbest HCs to ever exist? Twenty years of the same shit. He can’t learn.
He’s inadequate in a lot of areas
Most would improve with an 18-19 year body of work if you will
Not our guy
Stubborn and stupid - a winning combo
Include egotistical and arrogant while being clueless.
You forgot ugly, lazy and disrespectful.
Shut up bitch! Go fix me a turkey pot pie.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 2:21 am
by Stlcrtn1974
Jizz Mop wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:31 am
langer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:20 am
Jizz Mop wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 1:16 am
He’s inadequate in a lot of areas
Most would improve with an 18-19 year body of work if you will
Not our guy
Stubborn and stupid - a winning combo
Include egotistical and arrogant while being clueless.
You forgot ugly, lazy and disrespectful.
Shut up bitch! Go fix me a turkey pot pie.
No dad, what about you.
One of my favorite movies of all time. Saw it when I was 11 when it came out, probably have seen it 100 times.
I got a few Shermer High school class of 84 t-shirts.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 2:35 am
by steelmann58
Turtle expert doesn’t trust the offense ices his defense
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 3:10 am
by langer
Here's you Pittsburgh Steelers final drive of the game.
This is that kind of killer instinct they can't teach. Finishing off the game.
+1 YD 1 & 10 - PIT 8(2:22 - 4th) 74-S.Anderson reported in as eligible. 30-J.Warren left guard to PIT 9 for 1 yard (12-A.Gilman; 0-R.Smith).
+2 YD 2 & 9 - PIT 9(2:17 - 4th) 30-J.Warren right end to PIT 11 for 2 yards (53-K.Van Noy).
NO GAIN 3 & 7 - PIT 11(2:11 - 4th) 8-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to 11-M.Valdes-Scantling (44-M.Humphrey).
PUNT 4 & 7 - PIT 11(2:08 - 4th) 3-C.Waitman punts 53 yards to BAL 36 Center-46-C.Kuntz. 83-L.Wester to BAL 44 for 8 yards (41-P.Wilson). PENALTY on BAL-39-K.Jackson Offensive Holding 10 yards enforced at BAL 36.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 3:54 am
by CKSteeler
When Andy Red left Philly, he reinevented his playbook and approach for KC. That's often forgotten about his move.
Mike Tomlin is far, far too arrogant to do the same. Even if he was forced out it would be quietly and his ego would remain intact. I just can't ever see him putting in the work to learn from the rest of the league schematically, see where he's fallen behind, and then build off that in his own direction.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 4:23 am
by Orangesteel
The 4th quarter offense was disgraceful.
Tomlin backs into wins, it’s by design.
He’s an idiot.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 5:49 am
by Sir Lambert
Like I've said before, it seems that the goal in every game is to almost lose.
Do they ever score in the 4th quarter when they have the lead?
How often does the other team fail to pick up first downs in the 4th quarter when the Steelers have the lead? It's happened at least once this year, I think. But the majority of the other team's possessions when the Steelers have the lead in the 4th quarter end with points or 0:00 on the clock.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:17 am
by langer
This last drive could be another overt manipulation of the game.
What else could explain that. Big Coach T acting all manly wanting his vaunted elite D to finish the game off? A real QB would have.
Any other explanations? Pure stupidity? There is that.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 2:18 pm
by jeemie
langer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:17 am
This last drive could be another overt manipulation of the game.
What else could explain that. Big Coach T acting all manly wanting his vaunted elite D to finish the game off? A real QB would have.
Any other explanations? Pure stupidity? There is that.
They were inside the ten and he was scared to pass, even though Rodgers was not sacked and not really pressured all that much all game?
But seriously it goes down to feel, and Tomlin doesn't have it.
He almost always chooses a sub-optimal way of trying to win games, usually at the expense of closing out all other options.
Me? When the Steelers (with officiating help) kept the Ravens out of the end zone, I looked at the time left and the timeouts the Ravens had and said "we need two first downs". That would inform my offensive strategy- how do I most efficiently get two first downs?
Tomlin, of course, probably immediately thinks he has to run the ball to get the other team to burn their timeouts, no matter how much more difficult it makes it to get a first down.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 2:33 pm
by swissvale72
Yeah...should have been passing on first or second down, particularly with the weakness of the run game on Sunday. That said, I wasn't at all surprised they didn't do so.
Steelers REALLY benefited on the hold call on the punt, forcing ravens to start final possession on the 26 rather than 44.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 3:55 pm
by zeke5123
To make it worse, he took a timeout when the Ravens had the ball. The down and distance meant that as a practical matter, the Steelers would have meaningful time on the clock if the Ravens scored one way or another. Timeout was not needed.
But the timeout helped Baltimore (i.e., the trailing team) if they failed to score. Tomlin saved them probably 25 seconds and a timeout. That is inconsistent with his RRP strategy after the turnover.
He really is a retard.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:15 pm
by lifelongsteel
The Tomlin Paradox
We almost universally agree he's a poor coach. With extra scorn for his lack of game plans, lack of half time adjustments, poor in game management, etc.. We also generally agree that the Steelers are not a very talented team. Terrible skill guys. Cast off DBs. Old, past their prime guys, etc. And of course, we know they haven't had a top 20 QB since Ben retired.
How is he accomplishing NHALS? Why hasn't the bottom fallen out?
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 7:22 pm
by CKSteeler
lifelongsteel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 6:15 pm
The Tomlin Paradox
We almost universally agree he's a poor coach. With extra scorn for his lack of game plans, lack of half time adjustments, poor in game management, etc.. We also generally agree that the Steelers are not a very talented team. Terrible skill guys. Cast off DBs. Old, past their prime guys, etc. And of course, we know they haven't had a top 20 QB since Ben retired.
How is he accomplishing NHALS? Why hasn't the bottom fallen out?
The secret sauce isn't really that special here. Players do "enjoy" playing for Mike Tomlin for the most part. Every team is going to have malcontents, but his teams usually don't crumble. He's never lost the locker room for whatever we think of him. If Tomlin were to step back and hire the right people to run the offense and defense, he could probably be a top tier coach just from the level of buy-in he gets from his players. On paper, Pittsburgh *should* be a great place to go coach. You get more patience and job security here than anywhere else in the sport. But in reality you have to answer to Tomlin and as a result its where careers go to die. Don't think for a second that up and coming coaches aren't fully aware of the history of his assistant coaches ending up out of the league.
He had really great talent for much of his tenure. Well above league average. As the talent has declined, he's fallen back on a proven formula to achieve mediocrity.
The entire organization follows his lead. The front office every year gets him the pieces to remain semi-competitive in the short term even if it hurts their long term prospects. Most other organizations you'd have division and back sniping after what we've seen here. You'd have the FO probably wanting to tear shit down and rebuild, but the guys in the FO are probably painfully aware that the key to job security is keeping Mediocre Mike happy. The owner isn't really pushing for greatness so you give his buddy Mike T what he wants and stay employed.
So every move this organization makes is basically geared around the delusion that they are right on the cusp. They go all in every year whereas other franchises would have pulled the bandaids off and admitted how far away they actually were. But not this group because again, Tomlin has deluded himself and they all really answer to that guy.
Tomlin is not devoid of positive attributes and the people who don't recognize that are part of the reason his defenders can always dismiss critics as a whole. It's tough for me to praise him without a heavy dose of criticism.
Tomlin's relative strengths are the cause of his fatal flaws as a coach.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 7:39 pm
by CKSteeler
In more coach fraud news, today Tomlin had the fucking gall to say this: "I've been in the hot seat for 19 years."
He then arrogantly said that he expects fans to show up Monday night against the Dolphins for more slop. It's a big game, don't you know...
There isn't a head coach anywhere in the country who has had to endure relatively less criticism and feel less pressure over his job than this fuck.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 8:07 pm
by Dan Smith--BYU
Dude is rapidly turning into Michelle Obama...gets a lot of really expensive shit she never earned but constantly entitled and complaining.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:00 pm
by 955876
CKSteeler wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 7:39 pm
In more coach fraud news, today Tomlin had the fucking gall to say this: "I've been in the hot seat for 19 years."
He then arrogantly said that he expects fans to show up Monday night against the Dolphins for more slop. It's a big game, don't you know...
There isn't a head coach anywhere in the country who has had to endure relatively less criticism and feel less pressure over his job than this fuck.
What a fucking cunt.
The only thing that’s been hot over the past 19 years is his well developed line of bullshit.
Can’t wait till this asshole is gone.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:03 pm
by 955876
He really is a retard.
Might not be a worse HC in the history of the NFL in terms of not knowing when to call or not call a time out.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:56 pm
by jeemie
955876 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:00 pm
CKSteeler wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 7:39 pm
In more coach fraud news, today Tomlin had the fucking gall to say this: "I've been in the hot seat for 19 years."
He then arrogantly said that he expects fans to show up Monday night against the Dolphins for more slop. It's a big game, don't you know...
There isn't a head coach anywhere in the country who has had to endure relatively less criticism and feel less pressure over his job than this fuck.
What a fucking cunt.
The only thing that’s been hot over the past 19 years is his well developed line of bullshit.
Can’t wait till this asshole is gone.
The other day he was being asked about Aaron Rodgers and was praising his experience, how he has seen it all.
"You sign on with him for the 'thick days'" Tomlin said.
And I was like "what the fuck does that even mean?"
I used to not mind the "well developed line of bullshit" as much as the other things I minded about him, but now he's just saying things that you can't even puzzle out the meaning for.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:23 pm
by langer
"You sign on with him for the 'thick days'" Tomlin said.
And I was like "what the fuck does that even mean?"
Jagoff is searching for the next bullshit saying for his wife's stupid t-shirts.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:53 pm
by .Kodiak
langer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:23 pm
"You sign on with him for the 'thick days'" Tomlin said.
And I was like "what the fuck does that even mean?"
Jagoff is searching for the next bullshit saying for his wife's stupid t-shirts.
You definitely need a strong collective in order to be entertaining for those meaty downs on thick days
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:09 am
by langer
.Kodiak wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:53 pm
langer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:23 pm
"You sign on with him for the 'thick days'" Tomlin said.
And I was like "what the fuck does that even mean?"
Jagoff is searching for the next bullshit saying for his wife's stupid t-shirts.
You definitely need a strong collective in order to be entertaining for those meaty downs on thick days
Moist, meaty, thick. THICC.
Wonder if Kiya's THICC.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:13 am
by CKSteeler
langer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:09 am
.Kodiak wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:53 pm
langer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:23 pm
"You sign on with him for the 'thick days'" Tomlin said.
And I was like "what the fuck does that even mean?"
Jagoff is searching for the next bullshit saying for his wife's stupid t-shirts.
You definitely need a strong collective in order to be entertaining for those meaty downs on thick days
Moist, meaty, thick. THICC.
Wonder if Kiya's THICC.
Nah Kiya aint. But that white woman he allegedly knocked up? Should have seen her.
Re: Turtling - Tomlin an expert
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2025 11:22 am
by Stillerz Bar
955876 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:03 pm
He really is a retard.
Might not be a worse HC in the history of the NFL in terms of not knowing when to call or not call a time out.
Or when to challenge.