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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:44 am

The needs are offensive side of the ball which need to include TE,WR,RB .



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Post by Ice » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:14 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:44 am
The needs are offensive side of the ball which need to include TE,WR,RB .
You can go ahead and add in OL depth, too. Maybe a developmental guy at C, though the Steelers usually like to spend a prime time pick on that position.
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:57 pm

We badly need a speed WR who can play immediately.

Add him to Diontae, JuJu and JW and we're in good shape going forward.

Don't be surprised if Tevin Jones shows the Steelers he can really play the rest of this year and owns the 5th WR spot for the future.

TE and RB are quickly becoming needs for sure.
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Post by Jobu » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:00 pm

O-line...O-line...O-line...
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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:04 pm

I’d like to see us draft a RB and sign a FA WR

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Post by stairway 2 seven » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:03 pm

Need to keep Hargrave. I never thought id say it but keep Dupree too. Then:
Fast wr that can catch
OG to replace foster
lb to replace barron
Rb

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Post by Jobu » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:25 pm

Need to keep Hargrave. I never thought id say it but keep Dupree too.
It’s very likely one of the two is gone...probably Hargrave. He’s going to want to get paid a lot. In the Steelers scheme, with everyone healthy, he’s a part time player. They aren’t giving him the 12 mil or so he’ll probably get in the FA market.

For everyone insisting the Steelers draft a RB, what current RB do you think they’re going to cut? Conner...no. Snell...no. Samuels...maybe, but doubtful. I’ll be shocked if they waste one of their limited 2020 picks on a RB. Maybe a late rounder.

I don’t want them using a premium pick on a TE until they actually start using the TE.
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Post by cop1211 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:35 pm

They need OG, and DE, Tuitt has multiple injuries, and Heywood is long in the tooth.
I dont think they draft a WR until the 4th. Unless a real good one falls to the 2nd round.
Then you have Dupree, if he goes then OLB is a must in the second in my opinion. I'm guessing they resign him.

2.OG
3.DE
4A.WR
4B.OLB
5.CB
6.WR
7.DT


2021

1.OC
2.LT
3.RB
4.TE
5.S
6.CB
7.DT
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:36 pm

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Need to keep Hargrave. I never thought id say it but keep Dupree too.
It’s very likely one of the two is gone...probably Hargrave. He’s going to want to get paid a lot. In the Steelers scheme, with everyone healthy, he’s a part time player. They aren’t giving him the 12 mil or so he’ll probably get in the FA market.

For everyone insisting the Steelers draft a RB, what current RB do you think they’re going to cut? Conner...no. Snell...no. Samuels...maybe, but doubtful. I’ll be shocked if they waste one of their limited 2020 picks on a RB. Maybe a late rounder.

I don’t want them using a premium pick on a TE until they actually start using the TE.
Well, Conner is a proven china doll. That isn't debatable.

Samuels has underwhelmed but he's playing dinged behind a sieve of an offensive line that has seriously regressed. Snell has looked okay but nothing special.

You are probably right that they don't draft a back, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't. If Conner could stay healthy we'd be fine.

He cannot.
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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:47 am

I think We need a Speed WR to help JuJU and they also need a playmaking TE to make Vance a true solid number two.I also agree they need a back that you can team with Shell and a Home run Hitter.

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Post by StillerDownSouth » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:57 am

If there is a Zeke/Dalvin/Sequon type back coming out that can be had in the 2nd round I would be all in. A stud RB can mask offensive problems.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:51 am

This team has many holes. Coaching is where this team really needs to pick up the pieces....

Start with a RB. WR and TE are high on the Christmas list. OLine/DLine, LB'er both Inside and Edge, Corner and Safety all high on the Christmas list. The real decision is where to start? I wouldn't mind seeing a majority of the 2020 draft picks go to offense.

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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:24 pm

I agree most of the picks on Offense and the UDFA should be targeted for the defense

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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:13 pm

I mean these wish lists that are basically "I want everything" are great, but let's be realistic.

You have to prioritize.
I don't think RB is high on the list. You have 3 younger guys - regardless of what you think of them - who all things considered puts that position on far more firm position than the others. So that's not a position I target.

The WR position needs serious help as does the TE position - I think I start with those two based on who is available. I think you consider Ben coming back and these two positions are going to have the biggest impact. I think with the WR position - you don't necessarily need a true #1 because that's probably not going to happen... but if you can find a guy who can take the top off and do that really well - that's probably a good fit for utilizing Juju and DJ.

Obviously a TE that can do everything is probably going to be hard to find... maybe we can find one that can stretch the field a bit but would be a work in progress blocking wise.

Another year of seasoning for our running backs and I think they can certainly do what's needed for this offense.
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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:29 pm

WR and TE will be 1-2 and they need to target a pas catching TE IMO

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Post by RemoAZ » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:40 pm

Trading Tomlin to the Redskins for a 1 and 3 would get everyone more excited about the draft.
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Post by Jobu » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:54 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
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WR and TE will be 1-2 and they need to target a pas catching TE IMO
Why? They don’t use the TE...at least not in the manner that justifies a high draft pick. They’ll re-sign Vannett. VM, NV, ZG...that’s what they’ll move on with.
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Post by Jobu » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:11 pm

They have 5 draft picks right now, probably 6 when the comps are handed out. They must start to address the O-line...at least two picks need to go O-line. I wouldn’t be shocked or upset if they use their round 2 pick here.
The offensive line is deteriorating fast. Pouncey and Foster are about done. Villanueva has gone from pro bowl to toilet bowl...my gawd is he bad! Feiler is so so and DeCastro, other than the Aaron Donald beat down has been OK, but he’s getting long in the tooth also. Zach Banner in the 6th lineman role has been less than JAG. Finley...meh. Chuks still has some promise, but he’s regressed. Derwin Gray is a fat fuck. With few exceptions, fat fucks in today’s NFL usually fail.
You can add all the WRs, TEs, and RBs you want, if you don’t rebuild the offensive line it won’t matter.
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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:45 pm

They better find an upgrade at OL Coach if they start drafting Lineman

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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:35 pm

If draft was today, they lose the 18th pick for MF. I'd say that was good trade.

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Post by El Kabong » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:34 am

Jobu wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:11 pm
They have 5 draft picks right now, probably 6 when the comps are handed out. They must start to address the O-line...at least two picks need to go O-line. I wouldn’t be shocked or upset if they use their round 2 pick here.
The offensive line is deteriorating fast. Pouncey and Foster are about done. Villanueva has gone from pro bowl to toilet bowl...my gawd is he bad! Feiler is so so and DeCastro, other than the Aaron Donald beat down has been OK, but he’s getting long in the tooth also. Zach Banner in the 6th lineman role has been less than JAG. Finley...meh. Chuks still has some promise, but he’s regressed. Derwin Gray is a fat fuck. With few exceptions, fat fucks in today’s NFL usually fail.
You can add all the WRs, TEs, and RBs you want, if you don’t rebuild the offensive line it won’t matter.
Shouldn't a good coach be able to be successful with a crappy offensive line?
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Post by steelmann58 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:37 am

sorry losing MM was a major blow.

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