Brady at 42 in Driving Rain Vs Rudolph

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Brady at 42 in Driving Rain Vs Rudolph

Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:51 pm

1.) Brady is putting on a clinic
2.) Weather is awful
3.) Brady at 42 is more mobile than Mason 24.
4.) Brady is faster than Mason.

It just highlights how non-NFL Mason is. How was he drafted? How is the drafting system so broken as not to expose these posers?



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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:54 pm

Brady has sick accuracy and his awareness of where his guys are on the field is psychic.

It's not fair to compare any young QB to that guy.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:12 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:54 pm
Brady has sick accuracy and his awareness of where his guys are on the field is psychic.

It's not fair to compare any young QB to that guy.
I almost typed an I know I know post...can’t compare Mason to 42 year old Brady.

I am calling bullshit on that statement! We can and should compare him to 42 year old Brady and even 38 year old Ben!

How was he drafted?

I remember when Iverson came into the NBA, he did not look ridiculous against Jordan.

Mahomes didn’t look ridiculous against Brady!

Should we not be able to draft a QB that doesn’t look ridiculous against a 42 year old?

For Christ sakes we put a man on the moon!

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Post by Jobu » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:16 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:12 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:54 pm
Brady has sick accuracy and his awareness of where his guys are on the field is psychic.

It's not fair to compare any young QB to that guy.
I almost typed an I know I know post...can’t compare Mason to 42 year old Brady.

I am calling bullshit on that statement! We can and should compare him to 42 year old Brady and even 38 year old Ben!

How was he drafted?

I remember when Iverson came into the NBA, he did not look ridiculous against Jordan.

Mahomes didn’t look ridiculous against Brady!

Should we not be able to draft a QB that doesn’t look ridiculous against a 42 year old?

For Christ sakes we put a man on the moon!
I’m guessing had Tomlin and Colbert been in charge of the Apollo moon mission, Neil Armstrong would have been the first man to set foot on Pluto... :shock:

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Post by Kodiak » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:18 am

Jobu wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:16 am
I’m guessing had Tomlin and Colbert been in charge of the Apollo moon mission, Neil Armstrong would have been the first man to set foot on Pluto... :shock:
No, we never would have gone to the moon. It all would have been done in a Hollywood soundstage. Wait a minute.....
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:27 am

Kodiak wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:18 am
Jobu wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:16 am
I’m guessing had Tomlin and Colbert been in charge of the Apollo moon mission, Neil Armstrong would have been the first man to set foot on Pluto... :shock:
No, we never would have gone to the moon. It all would have been done in a Hollywood soundstage. Wait a minute.....
TomBert are no worse than the others! I just don’t get how Rudolph can be such a huge flop! And he is!

There is a flaw in the evaluation process. They are not measuring dick and ball size , or putting too much emphasis on how hot the girlfriend is, or too much emphasis on combines or something. Surely to God if you put a man on the moon you can figure out how a team can draft 80% of Tom Brady every 8 years.

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Post by Jobu » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:29 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:27 am
Kodiak wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:18 am
Jobu wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:16 am
I’m guessing had Tomlin and Colbert been in charge of the Apollo moon mission, Neil Armstrong would have been the first man to set foot on Pluto... :shock:
No, we never would have gone to the moon. It all would have been done in a Hollywood soundstage. Wait a minute.....
TomBert are no worse than the others! I just don’t get how Rudolph can be such a huge flop! And he is!

There is a flaw in the evaluation process. They are not measuring dick and ball size , or putting too much emphasis on how hot the girlfriend is, or too much emphasis on combines or something. Surely to God if you put a man on the moon you can figure out how a team can draft 80% of Tom Brady every 8 years.
To be fair, there have been worse QB draft misses than Mason Rudolph...even though it doesn’t feel like it right now.

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Post by El Kabong » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:36 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:27 am
Kodiak wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:18 am
Jobu wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:16 am
I’m guessing had Tomlin and Colbert been in charge of the Apollo moon mission, Neil Armstrong would have been the first man to set foot on Pluto... :shock:
No, we never would have gone to the moon. It all would have been done in a Hollywood soundstage. Wait a minute.....
TomBert are no worse than the others! I just don’t get how Rudolph can be such a huge flop! And he is!

There is a flaw in the evaluation process. They are not measuring dick and ball size , or putting too much emphasis on how hot the girlfriend is, or too much emphasis on combines or something. Surely to God if you put a man on the moon you can figure out how a team can draft 80% of Tom Brady every 8 years.
My guess is that while it is possible to know a lot about these guys before they step foot on an NFL field, there are just some things you can't know about these guys until you actually see them play against NFL defenses.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:46 am

Jobu wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:29 am
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:27 am
Kodiak wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:18 am


No, we never would have gone to the moon. It all would have been done in a Hollywood soundstage. Wait a minute.....
TomBert are no worse than the others! I just don’t get how Rudolph can be such a huge flop! And he is!

There is a flaw in the evaluation process. They are not measuring dick and ball size , or putting too much emphasis on how hot the girlfriend is, or too much emphasis on combines or something. Surely to God if you put a man on the moon you can figure out how a team can draft 80% of Tom Brady every 8 years.
To be fair, there have been worse QB draft misses than Mason Rudolph...even though it doesn’t feel like it right now.
To be clear...not criticizing the Steelers FO. I am being critical of the whole BS NFL draft process for QBs.

It is right up there with weather, Punxy Phil, predicting rapture and JC’s return.

They need to do a deep dive on criteria, metrics, testing and the whole lot...it isn’t even close to working as a repeatable process in 2020!

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Post by fractalsteel » Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:50 am

I know he isn't really an NFL QB either but I have to think Dobbs might have given us a better chance to win. I can't believe how badly MR has regressed.
If the hit by Thomas did shrink his sack size then maybe the hit came at the right time instead of a year down the road when we might have been locked into the guy.

I know, I know, MR deserves another chance and he will get one but I'm betting he fails once again.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:05 am

fractalsteel wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:50 am
I know he isn't really an NFL QB either but I have to think Dobbs might have given us a better chance to win. I can't believe how badly MR has regressed.
If the hit by Thomas did shrink his sack size then maybe the hit came at the right time instead of a year down the road when we might have been locked into the guy.

I know, I know, MR deserves another chance and he will get one but I'm betting he fails once again.
I don’t think he will get another chance on the Steelers.

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:18 am

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Post by Kodiak » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:19 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:05 am
I don’t think he will get another chance on the Steelers.
Rudolph?

I think he'll be the back-up for at least a few years. Here's a scary thought - he has work to do to become as good as Landry. If you look at Landry's last 2-3 starts (in years 3 and 4), he was quite a bit better than Rudolph. And we all still thought he wasn't good enough to be a back-up!

Rudolph is finished as an NFL QB until he shows some consistency throwing balls beyond the LOS.
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Post by Havoc » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:23 pm

fractalsteel wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:50 am
I know he isn't really an NFL QB either but I have to think Dobbs might have given us a better chance to win. I can't believe how badly MR has regressed.
If the hit by Thomas did shrink his sack size then maybe the hit came at the right time instead of a year down the road when we might have been locked into the guy.

I know, I know, MR deserves another chance and he will get one but I'm betting he fails once again.
Dobbs would have given us a better chance to win vs the Browns.

I said early in the Rudolph experiment that I would rather be watching Dobbs at QB.

When drafting a college QB... you have 1 job... to know if he has an NFL arm or not. Rudolph does not have the arm for the intermediate game at the NFL level and that's what did him in.
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Post by ToddHaleysNineIron » Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:55 pm

he is what he is... go back and read his scouting reports - and my guess is most every QB drafted has things on their negative list that translates to the pros... the successful ones improve in those areas.

https://walterfootball.com/scoutingrepo ... udolph.php

Now - to me.. I think Rudolph's biggest problem is anticipation. The game is still too fast for him. That might take a 2 or 3 years, it may never happen.

Hodges first play to me was the huge sign that Rudolph is just not seeing the field or he's seeing ghosts.

If he figures out how to make those throws and can be accurate, he can be average which will win a lot of games with a defense like this... but I think that's a ceiling, and at this point that's going to leave a lot of people disappointed after the luxery of Ben.

I don't think Hodges is going to light the world on fire, but if he can make even a few of those passes that he made to Samuels on his first play - that's going to be a huge improvement. There are some easy pitch and catch wide open throws to be made. Rudolph hasn't seen them.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:41 pm

I outlined Rudolph's last play of this week's game AND showed a phot of last game's missed WFO WR on 4th down play... but Rudolph's next to last play this week might have been even worse. He had BOTH Mcdonald and Samuels free in the middle of the field immediately, hesitated, looked the other way, and then got sacked while trying to intentionally ground the ball for about the 3rd time in the game.

The All-22 on those last two plays is going to tell you all you need to know about why they benched him.
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