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The picks at 24 and 55

Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:49 pm

Knowing the Steelers I think it will come down to C RB and T

I suspect the Steelers will draft Dickerson at 24 and Stevenson at 55

Given only 3 options of C RB T who do you think the Steelers will draft at 24 and 55 ??


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Post by jebrick » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:18 am

Etienne at 24
Josh Myers at 55
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:03 am

jebrick wrote: โ†‘
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:18 am
Etienne at 24
Josh Myers at 55
That would be pretty damn disappointing, especially because Etienne would be the better of the two picks by far. I don't think Josh Myers is very good.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:05 am

bradshaw2ben wrote: โ†‘
Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:03 am
jebrick wrote: โ†‘
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:18 am
Etienne at 24
Josh Myers at 55
That would be pretty damn disappointing, especially because Etienne would be the better of the two picks by far. I don't think Josh Myers is very good.
I agree......but.....i could TOTALLY see the Steelers doing exactly that.....unfortunately
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Post by cop1211 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:59 am

OT Teven Jenkins

OC Landon Dickerson

RB Trey Sermon

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:57 am

cop1211 wrote: โ†‘
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:59 am
OT Teven Jenkins

OC Landon Dickerson

RB Trey Sermon
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Gone to Baltimore
Pretty good pick
1 20 Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
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Post by jebrick » Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:29 pm

I think Myers is better than Humphrey and Dickerson in moving. Issues with the later two players is they have trouble reaching the 2nd level and then doing something. If the Steelers want to switch to a power running line then fine but neither of them have shown that they can hit anything outside their gaps.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:37 pm

jebrick wrote: โ†‘
Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:29 pm
I think Myers is better than Humphrey and Dickerson in moving. Issues with the later two players is they have trouble reaching the 2nd level and then doing something. If the Steelers want to switch to a power running line then fine but neither of them have shown that they can hit anything outside their gaps.
I agree wholeheartedly about the movement skills of Humphrey & Dicerson... but Myers problem is his anchor, which.. in a word... sucks. IIRC, Christian Barmore, for example, plastered him.
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Post by Greeksteel » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:07 am

1. Najee Harris
2. Dillon Radunz
3. Quinn Meinerz

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:31 am

Greeksteel wrote: โ†‘
Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:07 am
1. Najee Harris
2. Dillon Radunz
3. Quinn Meinerz
Defense continues to get shredded in the middle of the field.

I like all three players but they need to figure out how to extract the most value out of this draft, not waste the most valuable resource they have on the lowest value position (and one where the difference to replacement value is minuscule).

Elijah Molden
Browning
Christensen
Sermon
Hainsey/Kendrick Green

Would do more for this team overall.
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Post by Greeksteel » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:57 am

bradshaw2ben wrote: โ†‘
Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:31 am
Greeksteel wrote: โ†‘
Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:07 am
1. Najee Harris
2. Dillon Radunz
3. Quinn Meinerz
Defense continues to get shredded in the middle of the field.

I like all three players but they need to figure out how to extract the most value out of this draft, not waste the most valuable resource they have on the lowest value position (and one where the difference to replacement value is minuscule).

Elijah Molden
Browning
Christensen
Sermon
Hainsey/Kendrick Green

Would do more for this team overall.
I was just going by STDs parameters

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:35 am

Ah. Sorry @Greeksteel and sorry @cop1211 i didnโ€™t realize the parameters.

Okay, then... make mine:

Etienne
Christensen
Kendrick Green

If youโ€™re going to take a RB 1, at least make it someone who isnโ€™t a plodder bell cow who will suck all the energy out of the offense. yes, Najee can do it all and Williams is a tough runnerโ€”- but damn this team needs juice so they donโ€™t have to plod down the field and convert all those third downs. Draft a short yardage guy later in the draft or even add a couple as UDFA/street FA. Spencer Brown from Baylor, perhaps?
1 20 Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
2 51 TRADE: Brandon Aiyuk, WR
3 84 Hunter Nourzad, C, Penn State
3ร— 98 Jarvis Brownlee, Jr., CB, Florida State
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:33 pm

I dont think the Steelers really know how to use juice on offense.

Either that or they have a deep seeded dislike of real outlier talent
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Post by Jobu » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:13 pm

but damn this team needs juice so they donโ€™t have to plod down the field and convert all those third downs.
Ummm...the Steelers/Tomlin/A2 are the poster boys for the โ€œplodding, get to 3rd down offenseโ€.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:14 pm

Jobu wrote: โ†‘
Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:13 pm
but damn this team needs juice so they donโ€™t have to plod down the field and convert all those third downs.
Ummm...the Steelers/Tomlin/A2 are the poster boys for the โ€œplodding, get to 3rd down offenseโ€.
If that's what they're going to do, then sure AF don't waste 1st rounder on it! Draft Josh Johnson or Gerrid Doaks or Spencer Brown in the 6th or 7th and use that draft capital elsewhere. Hell, draft Josh Johnson if you're just going to draft a running "modern" QB, anyway, because he is the lead blocker on the zone read play like Dan Kreider AND he's a pretty damn good RB.
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Post by steelmann58 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:24 am

Eiteene ( because Harris is gone) and then Dickerson

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Post by Charles Demarr » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:32 pm

1.) Etienne or Harris
2.) Baron Browning
3.) Josh Myers or Brady Christensen

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Post by K_C_ » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:39 pm

1) Zaven Collins
2) Walker Little
3) Trey Sermon
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Post by Steeldrama » Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:47 pm

1.) Najee Harris RB Alabama
2.) Landon Dickerson OC Alabama
3.) Spencer Brown OT Northern Iowa
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:52 pm

Charles Demarr wrote: โ†‘
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1.) Etienne or Harris
2.) Baron Browning
3.) Josh Myers or Brady Christensen
I think this is close to what I think they will do, although unfortunately, I think they'll shy away from Christensen because he's 24 and doesn't play power 5. Josh Meyers would be about my 5th or 6th choice for the Steelers but what are you gonna do. Steelers gonna Steeler.
1 20 Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
2 51 TRADE: Brandon Aiyuk, WR
3 84 Hunter Nourzad, C, Penn State
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:22 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote: โ†‘
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Steelers gonna Steeler.
yep
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Post by cop1211 » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:19 am

K_C_ wrote: โ†‘
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1) Zaven Collins
2) Walker Little
3) Trey Sermon
I'd be good with this. Maybe Gainwell in the 3rd.

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Post by K_C_ » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:12 pm

cop1211 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:19 am
K_C_ wrote: โ†‘
Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:39 pm
1) Zaven Collins
2) Walker Little
3) Trey Sermon
I'd be good with this. Maybe Gainwell in the 3rd.
Gainwell would likely be a better fit for today's modern NFL offenses, but Sermon just looks more like the kind of guy the Steelers would pick.

Obviously neither are Jerome Bettis-like ground and pounders, but Sermon seems more capable of pounding it between the tackles. At least I bet the Steelers perceive him to be.

I could be wrong, but Tomlin is still going to want to score slowly. Gainwell would help them score TD's too fast. :lol:

Zaven Collins, to me, just SCREAMS Steelers linebacker. Has some Shazier in him.

I will literally be shocked if Collins is there and the Steelers take somebody else.
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Post by cop1211 » Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:08 pm

K_C_ wrote: โ†‘
Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:12 pm
cop1211 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:19 am
K_C_ wrote: โ†‘
Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:39 pm
1) Zaven Collins
2) Walker Little
3) Trey Sermon
I'd be good with this. Maybe Gainwell in the 3rd.
Gainwell would likely be a better fit for today's modern NFL offenses, but Sermon just looks more like the kind of guy the Steelers would pick.

Obviously neither are Jerome Bettis-like ground and pounders, but Sermon seems more capable of pounding it between the tackles. At least I bet the Steelers perceive him to be.

I could be wrong, but Tomlin is still going to want to score slowly. Gainwell would help them score TD's too fast. :lol:

Zaven Collins, to me, just SCREAMS Steelers linebacker. Has some Shazier in him.

I will literally be shocked if Collins is there and the Steelers take somebody else.
Totally agree I was thinking with Snell and the addition of Ballage maybe they would go for a guy whoโ€™s got some juice and wiggle and not run one back into the ground, go running back by committee .

PS Iโ€™d like RB Carter from UNC or Gainwell.

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Post by Ice » Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:51 pm

I am very scared that they seem to think a guy like Snell "adds" something to the RB room. Tomlin's has coached Bell, Parker, even Mike Alstott in the way back. He presumably knows what a competent NFL RB looks like. There isn't one on the roster at the moment.
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Post by Jobu » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 pm

Ice wrote: โ†‘
Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:51 pm
I am very scared that they seem to think a guy like Snell "adds" something to the RB room.
Iโ€™m not just scared of this...Iโ€™m certain of it. They didnโ€™t draft this guy because they like the shoes he wears. Snell is the epitome of the Tomlin/A2 โ€œget to third downโ€ RB.
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Post by Ice » Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:17 pm

That's a sad prospect.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:42 pm

Ice wrote: โ†‘
Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:17 pm
That's a sad prospect.
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