Pens @ Flyers 2/11 @7:00PM

[Louis Lipps Service]

Congrats to Tanger!

[Orangesteel]

Tanger now the all time goal leader for the Pens!

Fuck the flyers!

[Louis Lipps Service]

Murray has been BOSS tonight

Other than the traditional flubbed glove save where the refs bailed us out, yeah, he had a pretty damn great game.

[fractalsteel]

Bethsteel has to start the Pens threads from here out

[Louis Lipps Service]

Bethsteel has to start the Pens threads from here out

We'd need to pull him out of witness protection, first.

[Orangesteel]

And Raffl, this isn’t the Premier League. Either you get hit by the stick or you don’t. Don’t make shit up you gigantic pussy.

[bradshaw2ben]

And Raffl, this isn’t the Premier League. Either you get hit by the stick or you don’t. Don’t make shit up you gigantic pussy.

Exactly. Does Malkin automatically get reviewed for suspension on that match penalty? Edmonton up next.

[Donnie Brasco]

And Raffl, this isn’t the Premier League. Either you get hit by the stick or you don’t. Don’t make shit up you gigantic pussy.

Exactly. Does Malkin automatically get reviewed for suspension on that match penalty? Edmonton up next.

He can receive UP TO a 5 game suspension with his match penalty.
I'm guess he gets 1 considering he barely contacted the helmet and no injury

[BethlehemSteel]

Haha witness protection. You guys need it more than me

Yes, the risk of shaking the hive results in a backfire. I won't be starting game threads

Good game, except the blatant Pens Ref protection on the quick whistle. That changed the game from there on out.

the rookie had a rare bad game..... but man 51 shots and Murray was outstanding.

Flyers are not going to get into the dance, but i'd love to take guentzal off your hands for a few of our so called players.

Malkin is Malkin, has a mean streak that he can't control He's the Pens AB for sure.

One game def, maybe 2.

[fractalsteel]

Haha witness protection. You guys need it more than me

Yes, the risk of shaking the hive results in a backfire. I won't be starting game threads

Good game, except the blatant Pens Ref protection on the quick whistle. That changed the game from there on out.

the rookie had a rare bad game..... but man 51 shots and Murray was outstanding.

Flyers are not going to get into the dance, but i'd love to take guentzal off your hands for a few of our so called players.

Malkin is Malkin, has a mean streak that he can't control He's the Pens AB for sure.

One game def, maybe 2.

Mean streak, at times, out of control, too often.
As far as being AB, that is a load of shit. Never quit on his team. Doesn't complain except about his OWN play. Always shows up and is LOVED by his teammates. Puts the team ahead of himself even if that means he takes a bad penalty.
The Flyers would be lucky to ever have had a player of his talent in their history.

[Ice]

Buuuuhhhh... Eric Lindros....

[Louis Lipps Service]

Mean streak, at times, out of control, too often.
As far as being AB, that is a load of shit. Never quit on his team. Doesn't complain except about his OWN play. Always shows up and is LOVED by his teammates. Puts the team ahead of himself even if that means he takes a bad penalty.
The Flyers would be lucky to ever have had a player of his talent in their history.

Well, I'd argue that penalty last night was pretty damn selfish.

But more to your point, he's still miles away from being AB.

I'd go as far as to say there isn't anyone in hockey who is even remotely close to AB, in that regard.

Just completely different cultures.

Mike Lange was on the DVE morning show today. Basically tore Malkin a new asshole. About as animated as I've ever heard Lange speak about an individual player. But then the host took the show into the territory of the stupid by trying to cram Malkin into the AB comparison, to which Lange brushed the question off. All I could think of is that I hope that doesn't become the new narrative around town, because it's absolutely idiotic and is going to create a commotion that we don't need.

[BethlehemSteel]

Haha witness protection. You guys need it more than me

Yes, the risk of shaking the hive results in a backfire. I won't be starting game threads

Good game, except the blatant Pens Ref protection on the quick whistle. That changed the game from there on out.

the rookie had a rare bad game..... but man 51 shots and Murray was outstanding.

Flyers are not going to get into the dance, but i'd love to take guentzal off your hands for a few of our so called players.

Malkin is Malkin, has a mean streak that he can't control He's the Pens AB for sure.

One game def, maybe 2.

Mean streak, at times, out of control, too often.
As far as being AB, that is a load of shit. Never quit on his team. Doesn't complain except about his OWN play. Always shows up and is LOVED by his teammates. Puts the team ahead of himself even if that means he takes a bad penalty.
The Flyers would be lucky to ever have had a player of his talent in their history.

He didn't quit on his team, that's not what i meant. Geno does stupid things on the ice. That's the reference. I stole that from the Burg radio guys this morning. I think it was Colin Dunlap's call.

"The Flyers would be lucky to ever have had a player of his talent in their history" - You must just came out of mommy womb in the past 20 years. We did, his name was Eric Lindros. He is in the HOF. He was generational, as Malkin and Crosby are today and as Mario and Gretzky

Enjoy your time at the top, it's coming to an end....all things must end.

[Louis Lipps Service]

Enjoy your time at the top, it's coming to an end....all things must end.

Remember when you said that 4 years ago?

That was fun.

[fractalsteel]

Haha witness protection. You guys need it more than me

Yes, the risk of shaking the hive results in a backfire. I won't be starting game threads

Good game, except the blatant Pens Ref protection on the quick whistle. That changed the game from there on out.

the rookie had a rare bad game..... but man 51 shots and Murray was outstanding.

Flyers are not going to get into the dance, but i'd love to take guentzal off your hands for a few of our so called players.

Malkin is Malkin, has a mean streak that he can't control He's the Pens AB for sure.

One game def, maybe 2.

Mean streak, at times, out of control, too often.
As far as being AB, that is a load of shit. Never quit on his team. Doesn't complain except about his OWN play. Always shows up and is LOVED by his teammates. Puts the team ahead of himself even if that means he takes a bad penalty.
The Flyers would be lucky to ever have had a player of his talent in their history.

He didn't quit on his team, that's not what i meant. Geno does stupid things on the ice. That's the reference. I stole that from the Burg radio guys this morning. I think it was Colin Dunlap's call.

"The Flyers would be lucky to ever have had a player of his talent in their history" - You must just came out of mommy womb in the past 20 years. We did, his name was Eric Lindros. He is in the HOF. He was generational, as Malkin and Crosby are today and as Mario and Gretzky

Enjoy your time at the top, it's coming to an end....all things must end.

Nah, grew up watching(live) Orr and the boys in the 60's. One thing, all those guys you mentioned aside from Lindros, they lifted the cup, multiple times.

[Ice]

In their own heads, the tone of "all things must end" probably sounds a lot less threatening and a lot more "all things haaave to end, right? I mean it has to stop at SOME point?"

Good luck on attempting comparisons between Keep Your Head Up Please Eric and Gretzky, Lemieux, or any of the real greats of hockey, Crosby and Malkin included.

If you use phrases like "in my mind" or "in our minds," you won't come off quite as delusional.

[fractalsteel]

Mean streak, at times, out of control, too often.
As far as being AB, that is a load of shit. Never quit on his team. Doesn't complain except about his OWN play. Always shows up and is LOVED by his teammates. Puts the team ahead of himself even if that means he takes a bad penalty.
The Flyers would be lucky to ever have had a player of his talent in their history.

Well, I'd argue that penalty last night was pretty damn selfish.

But more to your point, he's still miles away from being AB.

I'd go as far as to say there isn't anyone in hockey who is even remotely close to AB, in that regard.

Just completely different cultures.

Mike Lange was on the DVE morning show today. Basically tore Malkin a new asshole. About as animated as I've ever heard Lange speak about an individual player. But then the host took the show into the territory of the stupid by trying to cram Malkin into the AB comparison, to which Lange brushed the question off. All I could think of is that I hope that doesn't become the new narrative around town, because it's absolutely idiotic and is going to create a commotion that we don't need.

Very selfish and out of control. The Flyers went after him and the punch to the back of the head(cowardly) was the breaking point. It is the one thing that I detest about his game-he can be taken out of the game by those tactics. It is the albatross around his career neck.

All the criticism he is getting for it is deserved.
Too bad for him, because he played great last night. His line was the best line over the course of the game but that one instance took it all away for the individual.

He deserves to be suspended.

I think the NFL media is to blame for some of what we see from NFL players. The NHL media is more interested in the play rather then the personal side of players or their off ice life.

[Pabst]

Buuuuhhhh... Eric Lindros....

Oh hey! We were just talking about franchise-crippling drama queens!

[Donnie Brasco]

Enjoy your time at the top, it's coming to an end....all things must end.

Remember when you said that 4 years ago?

That was fun.

Remember about 10 years ago that they all claimed their youngsters were ready?
Same line every October "this is the year we take the next step"

[Donnie Brasco]

Buuuuhhhh... Eric Lindros....

Actually that's probably the best hockey comparison: insanely talented dude who is letting other people influence his life for the worst
Lindros had his parents...AB has TO

[Donnie Brasco]

He can receive UP TO a 5 game suspension with his match penalty.
I'm guess he gets 1 considering he barely contacted the helmet and no injury

Hey I got something right

[Louis Lipps Service]

Buuuuhhhh... Eric Lindros....

Actually that's probably the best hockey comparison: insanely talented dude who is letting other people influence his life for the worst
Lindros had his parents...AB has TO

Not to turn this into another AB discussion, but the whole TO thing boggles my mind. In theory, TO actually should be the perfect adviser for AB. Because if anyone knows the dangers of living an unnecessarily extravagant lifestyle, it's him. He blew threw $80 million dollars so quickly that he was nearly bankrupt a few years after he retired.

In fact, in googling that info to make sure I was remembering it correctly, I came across this quote, from TO:

"My advice to any fan or athlete out there: Just don't live beyond your means," says Owens. "At that time I got sucked into wanting to be like everybody else, the guys with the Mercedes and all the flashy cars and the jewelry. I think those are some of the most idiotic purchases I think players can do, especially when they don't have that money in the bank account to really pay for that stuff."

So is TO telling AB all of this stuff, and AB is just not listening? (quite possibly)

Or is TO doing an about face and possibly just hanging around AB to enjoy the extravagant lifestyle again? (also quite possibly)

[Donnie Brasco]

Jason Mackey
✔
@JMackeyPG
Malkin: “We’re winning 3-0. There’s four [plus] minutes left. We know Philly is gonna start doing shit and running around when they’re losing.”

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12:49 PM - Feb 14, 2019



Shelly Anderson
@_ShellyAnderson
Malkin divulged his recent injury was to his neck, which he indicated made it all the more significant that Raffl punched him in the neck before the stick swing that got him suspended.

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12:46 PM - Feb 14, 2019

[Louis Lipps Service]

Jason Mackey
✔
@JMackeyPG
Malkin: “We’re winning 3-0. There’s four [plus] minutes left. We know Philly is gonna start doing shit and running around when they’re losing.”

13
12:49 PM - Feb 14, 2019



Shelly Anderson
@_ShellyAnderson
Malkin divulged his recent injury was to his neck, which he indicated made it all the more significant that Raffl punched him in the neck before the stick swing that got him suspended.

7
12:46 PM - Feb 14, 2019

I mean, I get it, but there's probably a 100 better ways to handle that. This is the NHL. He could have just turned around and punched Raffl and that'd have been fine. Or slash him in the back of the leg like everyone else in the league does. With the way games get reffed in the final minutes of game, he might not have even got called for doing one of those things.

Ideally, you do nothing and not put your team at a disadvantage in a game that would have otherwise been over. But if you absolutely have to lose your cool, he picked the one of the worst ways to do it.

You KNOW they're going to come down on you the second you intentionally swing a stick at someone's head. That's like the cardinal rule of hockey and that's just something a guy who's been in the NHL for 10+ absolutely has to know.

[Donnie Brasco]

Jason Mackey
✔
@JMackeyPG
Malkin: “We’re winning 3-0. There’s four [plus] minutes left. We know Philly is gonna start doing shit and running around when they’re losing.”

13
12:49 PM - Feb 14, 2019



Shelly Anderson
@_ShellyAnderson
Malkin divulged his recent injury was to his neck, which he indicated made it all the more significant that Raffl punched him in the neck before the stick swing that got him suspended.

7
12:46 PM - Feb 14, 2019

I mean, I get it, but there's probably a 100 better ways to handle that. This is the NHL. He could have just turned around and punched Raffl and that'd have been fine. Or slash him in the back of the leg like everyone else in the league does. With the way games get reffed in the final minutes of game, he might not have even got called for doing one of those things.

Ideally, you do nothing and not put your team at a disadvantage in a game that would have otherwise been over. But if you absolutely have to lose your cool, he picked the one of the worst ways to do it.

You KNOW they're going to come down on you the second you intentionally swing a stick at someone's head. That's like the cardinal rule of hockey and that's just something a guy who's been in the NHL for 10+ absolutely has to know.

Yea definitely not absolving him.
That quote looks especially stupid since he KNEW they were gonna start shit yet got goaded into it.

[Louis Lipps Service]

Jason Mackey
✔
@JMackeyPG
Malkin: “We’re winning 3-0. There’s four [plus] minutes left. We know Philly is gonna start doing shit and running around when they’re losing.”

13
12:49 PM - Feb 14, 2019



Shelly Anderson
@_ShellyAnderson
Malkin divulged his recent injury was to his neck, which he indicated made it all the more significant that Raffl punched him in the neck before the stick swing that got him suspended.

7
12:46 PM - Feb 14, 2019

I mean, I get it, but there's probably a 100 better ways to handle that. This is the NHL. He could have just turned around and punched Raffl and that'd have been fine. Or slash him in the back of the leg like everyone else in the league does. With the way games get reffed in the final minutes of game, he might not have even got called for doing one of those things.

Ideally, you do nothing and not put your team at a disadvantage in a game that would have otherwise been over. But if you absolutely have to lose your cool, he picked the one of the worst ways to do it.

You KNOW they're going to come down on you the second you intentionally swing a stick at someone's head. That's like the cardinal rule of hockey and that's just something a guy who's been in the NHL for 10+ absolutely has to know.

Yea definitely not absolving him.
That quote looks especially stupid since he KNEW they were gonna start shit yet got goaded into it.

I was thinking about this on my drive into work this morning for reasons that I'll never figure out.

The mentality difference between football and hockey with this stuff is kind of fascinating. I've played both sports all throughout my life, and it's visible at just about every level from high school on.

In football, you're taught to never retaliate under any circumstances. A guy could rip off your helmet and beat you with it and you're expected to stand there and take it. Every single football coach I've ever had would have flayed me alive if I would have ever taken a retaliation penalty.

It's so much different in hockey. In hockey, you have "the code". If someone does something to you behind the play, the expectation is basically that you're going to retaliate. Worse still, if you don't retaliate, there's a good chance one of your teammates will, if the original cheap shot was egregious enough. Now, there's certainly some guidelines on when it's appropriate to do so, and Malkin definitely violated that part of it in this case. But it's still there.

For comparison's sake, I put what Malkin did in a hockey game as the rough equivalent of a football player taking a swing at another player in a game. That football player would be ejected and universally derided from fans and media alike and possibly even slapped with the hothead/problem child tag (think about a guy like Steve Smith, for example).

In hockey, it's "yeah, he shouldn't have done it, but hey, the other guy started it, so what can you do?".

[fractalsteel]

Did you see Malkin's interview after practice yesterday? He was mumbling a bit but over the years I have learned to understand Malkinese. He said what your post was about. He was not contrite and he said he went too far but Raffl had been laying cheap shots all game to him and his teammates.
He sounded much different than the guy who was apologetic a day earlier.

Malkin set a precedent as well with his actions in Philly. He swings that stick intentionally again and the league will come down hard on him.