Tomlin Press Conference

[bradshaw2ben]

Okay, so a day late and likely a dollar short. Here it comes.

Our business is winning, and we haven't been handling our business.

Usually, there are consequences to getting short fields and settling for FGs. Also didn't minimize negativity when the defense had to defend short fields.

Some of the penalties have been significant this year.

Possession down play on offense has to be better. Have to win our share of 3rd downs.

Vance and Xavier both went down + no Rosie Nix, left only Gentry and limited us in our ability to run the football.

Was impressed by Minkah learning and absorbing snaps so quickly. Will be good for him to learn more and become even more productive.

The competitior in all of us is a little pissed off.

Injuries:

Nix still out (knee)

??? Vance, Grimble, Chickillo

Likely: Haden

Cincy: different faces, some continuity, no AJ Green. Tyler Boyd awesome. John Ross bigtime fast start, splash plays.

New faces in the backend on defense. Good CB tandem. Bates and Shawn Williams complement each other as safeties. Good STs unit (Erickson).

[Jobu]

I can’t hear it, but I’ll fill you in anyway...
Blah blah blah we embrace it. Blah blah blah blades of grass. Blah blah blah standard and iron and next man up. Blah blah blah in stadiums. Blah blah blah....obviously.

[LakecrestSteeler]

It is probably like the scene in Superman II, where Zod is in the White House and the President breaks from Zod’s script and pleads for Superman..... Tomlin breaks from script; looks into the camera, panicked....BENJAMIN! WHERE ARE YOU! WE NEED YOU! PLEASE SAVE US! PLEASE SAVE ME AND MY STREAK!

[rooneytunes]

Everything is pushed out a day because of Monday night football so I believe the press conference is actually tomorrow

[Steelafan77]

Do we really expect anything said that will be informative? Honestly, by not hearing it we have more information. The tired old horseshit out of tomlin's mouth is always the same. Communication. Execution. 9'ers were the better team and a tip of the cap. Then a few dozen obviouslys and a couple dozen if you wills. Followed by a several defending blades of grass and a couple we embrace it statements. The whole time not one actual relevant football question by anyone in the press conference because they might be banned from the invitation to ask any of the "scripted" questions. So sick and tired of the bullshit!

[bradshaw2ben]

and away we go...

[El Kabong]

Do we really expect anything said that will be informative? Honestly, by not hearing it we have more information. The tired old horseshit out of tomlin's mouth is always the same. Communication. Execution. 9'ers were the better team and a tip of the cap. Then a few dozen obviouslys and a couple dozen if you wills. Followed by a several defending blades of grass and a couple we embrace it statements. The whole time not one actual relevant football question by anyone in the press conference because they might be banned from the invitation to ask any of the "scripted" questions. So sick and tired of the bullshit!

Would you prefer if Tomlin handled press conferences like Belichick and answered every question with "we're on to Cincinnati"? HC's don't want to give anything away in pressers. Not sure why people expect Tomlin to.

[Steelafan77]

Ha! Yeah, tomlin wishes he was that smart....

[JackLambert58]

Do we really expect anything said that will be informative? Honestly, by not hearing it we have more information. The tired old horseshit out of tomlin's mouth is always the same. Communication. Execution. 9'ers were the better team and a tip of the cap. Then a few dozen obviouslys and a couple dozen if you wills. Followed by a several defending blades of grass and a couple we embrace it statements. The whole time not one actual relevant football question by anyone in the press conference because they might be banned from the invitation to ask any of the "scripted" questions. So sick and tired of the bullshit!

Would you prefer if Tomlin handled press conferences like Belichick and answered every question with "we're on to Cincinnati"? HC's don't want to give anything away in pressers. Not sure why people expect Tomlin to.

Both of them tell us approximately the same thing. Belichick gives you nothing, and Tomlin's all about verbal diarrhea still giving you nothing.

[swissvale72]

Do we really expect anything said that will be informative? Honestly, by not hearing it we have more information. The tired old horseshit out of tomlin's mouth is always the same. Communication. Execution. 9'ers were the better team and a tip of the cap. Then a few dozen obviouslys and a couple dozen if you wills. Followed by a several defending blades of grass and a couple we embrace it statements. The whole time not one actual relevant football question by anyone in the press conference because they might be banned from the invitation to ask any of the "scripted" questions. So sick and tired of the bullshit!

Would you prefer if Tomlin handled press conferences like Belichick and answered every question with "we're on to Cincinnati"? HC's don't want to give anything away in pressers. Not sure why people expect Tomlin to.

I would.

[DP39]

Do we really expect anything said that will be informative? Honestly, by not hearing it we have more information. The tired old horseshit out of tomlin's mouth is always the same. Communication. Execution. 9'ers were the better team and a tip of the cap. Then a few dozen obviouslys and a couple dozen if you wills. Followed by a several defending blades of grass and a couple we embrace it statements. The whole time not one actual relevant football question by anyone in the press conference because they might be banned from the invitation to ask any of the "scripted" questions. So sick and tired of the bullshit!

Would you prefer if Tomlin handled press conferences like Belichick and answered every question with "we're on to Cincinnati"? HC's don't want to give anything away in pressers. Not sure why people expect Tomlin to.

If Tomlin won SBs like Belichick I wouldn't care WTF he said during his PCs. I would just listen and say that's my guy; he's a M-F'n genius!

[COR-TEN]

Do we really expect anything said that will be informative? Honestly, by not hearing it we have more information. The tired old horseshit out of tomlin's mouth is always the same. Communication. Execution. 9'ers were the better team and a tip of the cap. Then a few dozen obviouslys and a couple dozen if you wills. Followed by a several defending blades of grass and a couple we embrace it statements. The whole time not one actual relevant football question by anyone in the press conference because they might be banned from the invitation to ask any of the "scripted" questions. So sick and tired of the bullshit!

Would you prefer if Tomlin handled press conferences like Belichick and answered every question with "we're on to Cincinnati"? HC's don't want to give anything away in pressers. Not sure why people expect Tomlin to.

Yeah. I don't get it. It's just another reason to shit on tomlin. I don't care about criticizing his decisions - help yourself - but ridiculing his press conferences and buzz words/ insulting him constantly is a waste of time. Get over it. It is what it fucking is. Repeating the same shit over, and over, and over, and over, and over shit over, and over, and over, and over, and over shit over, and over, and over, and over, and over shit over, and over, and over, and over, and over. . . What the fuck is the point? It's not going to get him fired.

[955876]

I don't think people complain about the language of his pressers because they expect him to provide some golden nuggets of information.

I think they complain because they are sick & tired of the man sounding like a blithering fucking idiot every time he opens his mouth.

All sizzle & no steak.

All hat & no cowboy.

Guy is a complete fraud and his use of language is nothing more than bullshit Jibba Jabba to give the impression he is on top of things.

[El Kabong]

I don't think people complain about the language of his pressers because they expect him to provide some golden nuggets of information.

I think they complain because they are sick & tired of the man sounding like a blithering fucking idiot every time he opens his mouth.

All sizzle & no steak.

All hat & no cowboy.

Guy is a complete fraud and his use of language is nothing more than bullshit Jibba Jabba to give the impression he is on top of things.

I think when the team isn't doing well, people want Tomlin to come out and say he recognizes the problems and outline specific plans to fix them, but no coach is ever going to do that in a press conference, so people get frustrated. What Tomlin is doing is the equivalent of "we're on to Cincinnati." He probably should just say that.

[955876]

I personally don’t watch his press conferences so really couldn’t care less what he says.

Get the bullet points here and bash what he says in them because to me his gibberish is simply an extension of how he coaches.

[Steelafan77]

I think when the team isn't doing well, people want Tomlin to come out and say he recognizes the problems and outline specific plans to fix them, but no coach is ever going to do that in a press conference, so people get frustrated. What Tomlin is doing is the equivalent of "we're on to Cincinnati." He probably should just say that.

I expect a good coach to own up to his shortcomings... I expect a coach to say that he takes full responsibility for the teams disastrous start and that he will be working harder to clean up his mess. Focusing his coaching staff in on what generates the terrible plays, penalties and shitty ball security. In game management, time outs/challenges. Preparedness as a Team. Not just walking through because its the Browns or Radiers. Actually preparing for a fight to the Death. I see they finally had some turnovers this last game. It's only been since? Well at least they got some. I just hope it wasn't a fluke run of luck for that one specific game and continues to progress through the process of the season.

You never hear anything of the sort. Tomlin explains everything away as he blames everyone else. We didn't execute. No shit asshole. We didn't do enough to correct our lack of 3rd down conversions. You don't say. We didn't do enough to stop the run/pass/3rd down conversions on defense. Nah Really?! My staff and I are prepared to correct these flaws and continue building on the teams strengths. You don't hear any urgency or resolve in anything he spews. Instead you hear the same horseshit he's been piling up for 11 seasons.

How do we expect the players to be accountable for their actions when Tomlin simply does not or feel he has to? Why we as fans have observed a few players on his watch destroy the the Steeler reputation by shitting all over themselves and the franchise. To me when I hear "players coach" I cringe. I visualize Tomlin as the poster boy. I visualize how this team has been far too underwhelming while progressively getting worse. How the talent has never been Fully Utilized to its Fullest Potential and how this team underperforms like clockwork.

I don't bitch about this nimrod because of his use of the english language. I bitch about this fucktard because he is a shitty coach that is far too highly rated and has rested on the individual players talent laurels far too long. He is a check stealing piece of shit that has allowed this storied franchise to become a miserable shadow of its former self. I hate the motherfucker!

[stillcajun]

I think when the team isn't doing well, people want Tomlin to come out and say he recognizes the problems and outline specific plans to fix them, but no coach is ever going to do that in a press conference, so people get frustrated. What Tomlin is doing is the equivalent of "we're on to Cincinnati." He probably should just say that.

I expect a good coach to own up to his shortcomings... I expect a coach to say that he takes full responsibility for the teams disastrous start and that he will be working harder to clean up his mess. Focusing his coaching staff in on what generates the terrible plays, penalties and shitty ball security. In game management, time outs/challenges. Preparedness as a Team. Not just walking through because its the Browns or Radiers. Actually preparing for a fight to the Death. I see they finally had some turnovers this last game. It's only been since? Well at least they got some. I just hope it wasn't a fluke run of luck for that one specific game and continues to progress through the process of the season.

You never hear anything of the sort. Tomlin explains everything away as he blames everyone else. We didn't execute. No shit asshole. We didn't do enough to correct our lack of 3rd down conversions. You don't say. We didn't do enough to stop the run/pass/3rd down conversions on defense. Nah Really?! My staff and I are prepared to correct these flaws and continue building on the teams strengths. You don't hear any urgency or resolve in anything he spews. Instead you hear the same horseshit he's been piling up for 11 seasons.

How do we expect the players to be accountable for their actions when Tomlin simply does not or feel he has to? Why we as fans have observed a few players on his watch destroy the the Steeler reputation by shitting all over themselves and the franchise. To me when I hear "players coach" I cringe. I visualize Tomlin as the poster boy. I visualize how this team has been far too underwhelming while progressively getting worse. How the talent has never been Fully Utilized to its Fullest Potential and how this team underperforms like clockwork.

I don't bitch about this nimrod because of his use of the english language. I bitch about this fucktard because he is a shitty coach that is far too highly rated and has rested on the individual players talent laurels far too long. He is a check stealing piece of shit that has allowed this storied franchise to become a miserable shadow of its former self. I hate the motherfucker!

[COR-TEN]

I think when the team isn't doing well, people want Tomlin to come out and say he recognizes the problems and outline specific plans to fix them, but no coach is ever going to do that in a press conference, so people get frustrated. What Tomlin is doing is the equivalent of "we're on to Cincinnati." He probably should just say that.

I expect a good coach to own up to his shortcomings... I expect a coach to say that he takes full responsibility for the teams disastrous start and that he will be working harder to clean up his mess. Focusing his coaching staff in on what generates the terrible plays, penalties and shitty ball security. In game management, time outs/challenges. Preparedness as a Team. Not just walking through because its the Browns or Radiers. Actually preparing for a fight to the Death. I see they finally had some turnovers this last game. It's only been since? Well at least they got some. I just hope it wasn't a fluke run of luck for that one specific game and continues to progress through the process of the season.

You never hear anything of the sort. Tomlin explains everything away as he blames everyone else. We didn't execute. No shit asshole. We didn't do enough to correct our lack of 3rd down conversions. You don't say. We didn't do enough to stop the run/pass/3rd down conversions on defense. Nah Really?! My staff and I are prepared to correct these flaws and continue building on the teams strengths. You don't hear any urgency or resolve in anything he spews. Instead you hear the same horseshit he's been piling up for 11 seasons.

How do we expect the players to be accountable for their actions when Tomlin simply does not or feel he has to? Why we as fans have observed a few players on his watch destroy the the Steeler reputation by shitting all over themselves and the franchise. To me when I hear "players coach" I cringe. I visualize Tomlin as the poster boy. I visualize how this team has been far too underwhelming while progressively getting worse. How the talent has never been Fully Utilized to its Fullest Potential and how this team underperforms like clockwork.

I don't bitch about this nimrod because of his use of the english language. I bitch about this fucktard because he is a shitty coach that is far too highly rated and has rested on the individual players talent laurels far too long. He is a check stealing piece of shit that has allowed this storied franchise to become a miserable shadow of its former self. I hate the motherfucker!

So tell us how you really feel!! RE : Bolded - So you want him to throw players and coaches under the bus publicly? What makes you think he doesn't ream players a new asshole in meeting rooms going over film? If there was such an uproar over BR calling out AB for flattening his route on his radio program, how do you think players would feel if the coaches did that in a press conference?

He's the face of the team, and says things like the CEO would in a yearly company meeting. Belichick says less. He says similar things. We didn't execute, we didn't stop the run, blah blah blah. Further, criticizing yourself or coaches for poor planning is a public relations nightmare. Nobody in their right mind would do that. I realize you want him gone, but why would he sabotage himself, giving MSM sports hacks reasons to beat the drum of dismissal? As an owner, would you want your coach and team in the news everyday over the 'coach controversy?'

Tomlin's gaffes and apparent mistakes have been criticized here ad nauseum, much of which is speculation. Nobody here is in the steelers facility, so I can't understand how one can make a blanket statement that he's soft and weak with his players.

[Gonzo]

Okay, so a day late and likely a dollar short. Here it comes.

Our business is winning, and we haven't been handling our business.

Usually, there are consequences to getting short fields and settling for FGs. Also didn't minimize negativity when the defense had to defend short fields.

Some of the penalties have been significant this year.

Possession down play on offense has to be better. Have to win our share of 3rd downs.

Vance and Xavier both went down + no Rosie Nix, left only Gentry and limited us in our ability to run the football.

Was impressed by Minkah learning and absorbing snaps so quickly. Will be good for him to learn more and become even more productive.

The competitior in all of us is a little pissed off.

Lord it’s difficult to hear or read his particular brand of bullshit ...

[KCSteeler]

I don't think people complain about the language of his pressers because they expect him to provide some golden nuggets of information.

I think they complain because they are sick & tired of the man sounding like a blithering fucking idiot every time he opens his mouth.

All sizzle & no steak.

All hat & no cowboy.

Guy is a complete fraud and his use of language is nothing more than bullshit Jibba Jabba to give the impression he is on top of things.

I wish I could like this post 100 times. I cannot tell you how many times I have used the all sizzle and no steak comparison. He could fuck up a two car parade.

[Gonzo]

Correct ... things like “didn’t minimize negativity” I guess I only have myself to blame for not regulating my masculine desires to overcome adverse feelings via violent outreach and other such things if you will ... live and let live as it were.

The sky is blue ... not it’s not the area above our heads and such is colored in a bluish hue as compared to other things that are distinctly not blue obviously.

[Steelafan77]

So tell us how you really feel!! RE : Bolded - So you want him to throw players and coaches under the bus publicly? What makes you think he doesn't ream players a new asshole in meeting rooms going over film? If there was such an uproar over BR calling out AB for flattening his route on his radio program, how do you think players would feel if the coaches did that in a press conference?

He's the face of the team, and says things like the CEO would in a yearly company meeting. Belichick says less. He says similar things. We didn't execute, we didn't stop the run, blah blah blah. Further, criticizing yourself or coaches for poor planning is a public relations nightmare. Nobody in their right mind would do that. I realize you want him gone, but why would he sabotage himself, giving MSM sports hacks reasons to beat the drum of dismissal? As an owner, would you want your coach and team in the news everyday over the 'coach controversy?'

Tomlin's gaffes and apparent mistakes have been criticized here ad nauseum, much of which is speculation. Nobody here is in the steelers facility, so I can't understand how one can make a blanket statement that he's soft and weak with his players.

What I mean by urgency and resolve is what it sounds like. Coach up the poor points of the team. Improve the strengths. He does none of it. Tomlin stands on the sidelines bug-eyed and hopes Ben and whomever is hot at the time play well enough to win. The guy is a bum. A lousy example of a coach. Tomlin throws players and coaches under the bus all the time in case you've missed any of the last 11 years he gets behind the podium after a loss. I outlined that in my OP. Tomlin hasn't to my knowledge stood there and excepted any blame himself. Has always doled it out to execution, explaining away the loss because the other team was playing better. What does that say? Tomlin has never said, I am taking Full Responsibility for this atrocious loss. Never. Ben is the one that goes out to the media and claims responsibility. Not Tomlin. You are right about one thing. We aren't in the locker room or classrooms or fields practicing. All we can do is judge by the results. The results have been consistently embarrassing, pathetic, humiliating, disappointing, laughable and just damn mind blowing baffling. Do these results display themselves as a sign that Tomlin has this coaching thing Down, after 11 seasons to you? It doesn't to me. We can agree to disagree Cor. I like your opinions you bring some levity to the board that otherwise has the tendency to go off the deep end. I believe wholeheartedly Tomlin is a piece of shit and should NOT be coaching my Steelers. I root for the Steelers Not Tomlin. So I have to accept my undying fandom as a Steelers fan as Bitter Sweet. Thanks for sharing in the football talk.

[COR-TEN]

So tell us how you really feel!! RE : Bolded - So you want him to throw players and coaches under the bus publicly? What makes you think he doesn't ream players a new asshole in meeting rooms going over film? If there was such an uproar over BR calling out AB for flattening his route on his radio program, how do you think players would feel if the coaches did that in a press conference?

He's the face of the team, and says things like the CEO would in a yearly company meeting. Belichick says less. He says similar things. We didn't execute, we didn't stop the run, blah blah blah. Further, criticizing yourself or coaches for poor planning is a public relations nightmare. Nobody in their right mind would do that. I realize you want him gone, but why would he sabotage himself, giving MSM sports hacks reasons to beat the drum of dismissal? As an owner, would you want your coach and team in the news everyday over the 'coach controversy?'

Tomlin's gaffes and apparent mistakes have been criticized here ad nauseum, much of which is speculation. Nobody here is in the steelers facility, so I can't understand how one can make a blanket statement that he's soft and weak with his players.

What I mean by urgency and resolve is what it sounds like. Coach up the poor points of the team. Improve the strengths. He does none of it. Tomlin stands on the sidelines bug-eyed and hopes Ben and whomever is hot at the time play well enough to win. The guy is a bum. A lousy example of a coach. Tomlin throws players and coaches under the bus all the time in case you've missed any of the last 11 years he gets behind the podium after a loss. I outlined that in my OP. Tomlin hasn't to my knowledge stood there and excepted any blame himself. Has always doled it out to execution, explaining away the loss because the other team was playing better. What does that say? Tomlin has never said, I am taking Full Responsibility for this atrocious loss. Never. Ben is the one that goes out to the media and claims responsibility. Not Tomlin. You are right about one thing. We aren't in the locker room or classrooms or fields practicing. All we can do is judge by the results. The results have been consistently embarrassing, pathetic, humiliating, disappointing, laughable and just damn mind blowing baffling. Do these results display themselves as a sign that Tomlin has this coaching thing Down, after 11 seasons to you? It doesn't to me. We can agree to disagree Cor. I like your opinions you bring some levity to the board that otherwise has the tendency to go off the deep end. I believe wholeheartedly Tomlin is a piece of shit and should NOT be coaching my Steelers. I root for the Steelers Not Tomlin. So I have to accept my undying fandom as a Steelers fan as Bitter Sweet. Thanks for sharing in the football talk.

I feel your pain. I do. If I cannot do anything about it, I try to focus on the game and the players instead of tearing my hair out (whatever is left) because tomlin and co make questionable decisions. I understand your frustrations with tomlin. I even share many of them. I've oft criticized arians, haley, and now fichtner along with butler. At the very least both the OC and DC should be replaced along with some of their staff. B2B summarized it succinctly. Stale. But I don't know if tomlin is asking for them to snap out of it. I assume he does, whereas most here assume he doesn't. And I also blame BR a bit, because it's becoming clear that he does in fact, have a great deal of influence both on the offense, and the overall structure of the coaching staff. He doesn't want change, and if there is change, I'm betting he's retiring.

Not that I'm trying to defend tomlin, but the first thing I do is think about context, what I know, what I don't know, and go from there when judging his decision making. I try to avoid seeing Moncrief miss a catch causing an INT, and then instantly blaming tomlin because he chose and or approved the signing. That happens a lot around here. He didn't have a history of dropping passes, and nobody can blame tomlin because sean davis took a wrong angle or didn't play the ball instead of the player - despite being told that repeatedly in practice or meetings (and they've addressed that with Fitz). At some point, assessing blame can be a slippery slope influenced by confirmation bias. I guess I'm just a bit more patient. Grimble doesn't fumble, Boz doesn't lose his mind, and a few other player mistakes and last season looks different. I think the phrase "the buck stops here" is a fallacy. It's assigning blame for the sake of assigning blame, as opposed to looking at the real causes. But I ask myself all the time : Why would 90% of players and probably 90% of owners take tomlin in a heartbeat. And it's their industry.

Anyway, thanks for indulging me in a civil manner. Most here would just prefer to insult or mock me, then walk it back and say they were just trying to be humorous. I'm too old for that shit.

Cheers

[955876]

Why would 90% of players and probably 90% of owners take tomlin in a heartbeat. And it's their industry.

Please direct us to the poll & subsequent results supporting this “90%” claim.

How many owners have you spoken to or read where they provided you their personal opinion on Tomlin?

You talk of bias and then come back with a completely fabricated statement.

You have zero idea how many owners would do what.

Same goes for the players.

We’ve literally had just very recently several players force their way off this team.

We have past players now as well being talked about in regards for their disdain of Tomlin.

So your 90% number was completely pulled out of thin air.

I don't doubt some players would love to play for him. Particularly now that’s its known what a loose and undisciplined program he runs.

Lastly, a little note on the Grimble fumble. Sure a HC can’t control something like that. The right helmet or fist on the ball at just the right time can certainly cause a fumble.

At the same time, Grimble wasn’t carrying the football in the proper hand. Something he had ample time to do before contact. A simple shift of the football and he could have easily used his free hand on the contact side to prevent what happened.

That is coaching. Or lack thereof.

We don’t sweat the small details on this team.

[955876]

Oh, and you also cited how the season looks better if Biz makes some more of those kicks.

Kind of like that last second kick he missed out in Oakland after being rushing onto the field. A slippery field at that.

Maybe better use of his time outs (you know, the ones we came home with) would have made that kick more controlled and less of the cluster fuck that it was.

Coaching.

[COR-TEN]

I'll take the word of those inside the industry; Journalists, beat reporters, off the record statements that repeat the same thing - That tomlin is viewed favorably by other coaches and owners - over some asshole sitting on his man cave sofa any day. Someone that disputes common knowledge because they have a man crush on some other guy on the internet.

Geez. I'm too old for this shit.

[955876]

What “other guy” do I have a man crush on?

Am I not basing my opinion on what Tomlin has “put on tape”?

Can you dispute the two counter points I made when you cited Grimble’s fumble and Boz’s missed kicks as reasons our season went south?

Better coaching eliminates those two things.

You are creating stats based on your own opinions and bias with you X amount of owners think this...

You know nothing about what other owners think and likely neither do those “industry insiders” you cite (cough Pittsburgh media).

You think an owner of another team would publicly criticize Tomlin? To what purpose?

I’m sure Jibba would land another job.

But then, lots of poor coaches have been recycled in this league. Plenty of actual proof to support that.

And what exactly are you getting too old for? Actual debate?

Don’t get upset simply because you get challenged on a comment you made that was pulled from thin air.

[COR-TEN]

You aren't posting in response to me in good faith, talking about football. You are here to try to discredit me. Thus the stalking. It's blatantly obvious.

You know as well as I that industry insiders view tomlin favorably. Yet here you are nit picking and expecting citations for what is common knowledge. And it's not just inside pgh. Any talk of tomlin's dismissal is intended to garner clicks, and fuel the advertising industry.

This is why I will again, put you on ignore. You repeat ad nauseum the same shit, over and over again. You couldn't respond to anything else in my post, and looked for any crack you could put a wedge into. You seem to have some sort of vendetta.

I pity you. This is football for fucks sake, and you turn it into some sort of internet warrior battle.

It's pathetic.

Bye bye, asshole.

[955876]

The man literally doesn’t know how to properly utilize his time outs in his what, 13th season as a head coach and you are going to argue that journalist and beat writers have the “inside scoop” that he looked at favorably?

So freaking what?

Do those beat writers form your opinion or can you arrive at that yourself?

How can you continue to excuse such blatant incompetence over what should be the most elementary and basic of duties ie calling a time out.

[955876]

You are projecting into my post what you want to see and then complain about.

I didn’t put a personal attack or call you names.

I simply challenged you to support the “90%” nonsense you cited.

It was made up and not based on anything other than some notion Tomlin is viewed favorably.

Well goodie gum drops. That is all that matters. What some blogger or Pitt media hack thinks.

Never mind the ample evidence right in front of your own eyes that show time and again the man trips all over himself when it comes to the most basic of HC duties.

That is why I’m debating. You on the other hand run from it, cite a bloggers irrelevant opinion, then cry that I’m somehow stalking or purposely fucking with you all because you can’t support your own statements.

Instead of whining maybe support your own stance.

I’ve done that with my opinion. Try it with yours.

Never seen somebody be so mentally fragile around here as you.

You take counter points as personal insults.

Maybe try coming up with better points. You know, like something better than “media bloggers & journalist” day he’s viewed favorably so he must be a good coach.

What do you see Cor-Ten with your eyes?

And you can put me on ignore all you want. It’s rather childish and telling of your ability to debate.

Crying because you got a counter pointed. Oh noes.

Lastly, notice who goes to name calling. It’s you not me.

Show where in my post it wasn’t related to discussing the topic with you.

Twisting reality just a tad here.