Reg. Season #4: Steelers vs. Chiefs Game Comments.

[Legacy User]

And my post birthday gift.

[jeemie]

Ben 22/27 300 yards 5 TDs 0 INTs

Bell 18 carries for 144 yards/5 catches for 34 yards

Brown 4 catches for 64 yards 2 TDs

Coates 6 catches for 79 yards

Coates' YPC took a big hit...

[Legacy User]

and a gift for people in general.

[Legacy User]

Much better feeling than last week. Good job, Steelers.

[BethlehemSteel]

Just believe baby

[Kodiak]

I think he used the word "rookies" but I think he probably meant developmental players.

I'm not even talking developmental players. There's plenty of cap space for 6-12 year vets like DHB, Gay, DWill and others. The money isn't really the issue - it's purely rather than inexperience but upside is better than the vet. And we've seen (and complained) a lot over the years about vets with no upside still making mistakes.

[Havoc]

Ben 22/27 300 yards 5 TDs 0 INTs

Bell 18 carries for 144 yards/5 catches for 34 yards

Brown 4 catches for 64 yards 2 TDs

Coates 6 catches for 79 yards

Great to see Coates developing.

Really like the adjustment to the deep ball first play of the game.

[Steelafan77]

Great bounce back win tonight. Good evening folks.

Go Steelers!

[steelsmitty]

3-1 with wins over the bengals and chiefs...I think everyone would've taken that before the season began. Last week was an aberration and this team is for real.

[stillcajun]

Now we're worried about offending the Chiefs?

So when people say they want the Steelers to put their foot on the gas and not let up the whole game, they don't really mean it.

THIS^^^

Send a freaking message to the rest of the league that the Philly game was an aberration. This is the real Steelers team that you will be facing from here on out.

[Legacy User]

I think he used the word "rookies" but I think he probably meant developmental players.

I'm not even talking developmental players. There's plenty of cap space for 6-12 year vets like DHB, Gay, DWill and others. The money isn't really the issue - it's purely rather than inexperience but upside is better than the vet. And we've seen (and complained) a lot over the years about vets with no upside still making mistakes.

So I'm not sure what your arguing. You mention 3 guys that are either starters or back ups who get snaps. I think his point was that there will be injuries, even sometimes multiple injuries in a position and that your going to have a younger player fill in - how you prepare for that scenario can make a difference. It's a hard job to do when your playing in games that are close in the 4th qtr... when you have blowouts in the 4th quarter, it *should* be a godsend.

You don't even have to look around the league, look at the Steelers RB situation last year.

[drmalba]

That wasnt a bad team we just beat down - a quality team with a good defense.
I was confused at them continuously lining Bell up as a receiver, and I wondered if he wasnt getting into a good rhythm with the offense because of it. But apparently it threw the Chiefs off too. Pretty imaginative and aggressive gameplan for this one.

[JackLambert58]

Nothing but dominance tonight. Great fucking win. Need to keep this up.

[Legacy User]

I don't know what we're gonna do. You know, since our offense is completely overrated.

[Steel Ubaldo]

I don't know what we're gonna do. You know, since our offense is completely overrated.

Well, we won't be wetting our beds this week. Some will still find a reason to bewail and lament. However, cases of bewailing and lamenting will be down exponentially this week. Great win!

[stillcajun]

Haley loathes Kansas City. He really proved it to night. That was some killer O tonight. From an abysmal team loss to a great team win. Great job Stillers!

[jeemie]

Like what I saw tonight...from the players and the coaches. Obviously they were humiliated by last Sunday and put in the work during the week to wipe away that stain.

They have to keep bringing imaginative and aggressive game plans. They have to have confidence such aggression will work.

History has shown Tomlin will revert into a shell again, and we can't always count on imagination and aggression.

I see them keep this up...I'll have more faith in this season.

It shouldn't have to require severe adversity for the Steelers to get aggressive.

[Kodiak]

This offense, even without Bryant (whom Coates is doing a pretty good job imitating), should challenge records. It's only fear that will hold this offense back.

To have Leveon Bell....and then a guy like DWill...is an embarrassingly good problem to have for an OC. JJ is a solid receiving threat, and Grimble doesn't look like a slouch (not to mention eventually getting Ladarius back). AB and Coates is as good as it gets in the NFL, and Wheaton/DHB are above average #3's.

It IS a failure any time this offense doesn't put up 30+, against any defense. And I didn't even mention Ben Roethlisberger is your QB.

What I want to see from Haley is taking advantage of these riches and getting more easy plays, generating more confusion on the defense. With the players around him, Ben SHOULD break every record in the books. No bullshit, no exaggeration.

[Legacy User]

Haley loathes Kansas City. He really proved it to night. That was some killer O tonight. From an abysmal team loss to a great team win. Great job Stillers!

The Grey was filled with a turrible resolve. Andy the dancing bear Reid had no chance, no chance.

[steelmann58]

I like to know what Kevin Greene said to them in the locker room

[steelmann58]

I like to know what Kevin Greene said to them in the locker room

[bradshaw2ben]

Ben AT HIS BEST is better than anyone ever to play the position.

Also illustrates he has more inconsistent/bad games than other greats....but you wonder how much multiple systems, bad OL's (most of his career) and a revolving door at WR have held him back.

WTF are you talking about? Ben has very few bad games compared to even the best QBs of all time. You. Are. Spoiled.

[Legacy User]

Ben AT HIS BEST is better than anyone ever to play the position.

Also illustrates he has more inconsistent/bad games than other greats....but you wonder how much multiple systems, bad OL's (most of his career) and a revolving door at WR have held him back.

WTF are you talking about? Ben has very few bad games compared to even the best QBs of all time. You. Are. Spoiled.

[Kodiak]

Also illustrates he has more inconsistent/bad games than other greats....but you wonder how much multiple systems, bad OL's (most of his career) and a revolving door at WR have held him back.
WTF are you talking about? Ben has very few bad games compared to even the best QBs of all time. You. Are. Spoiled.

Totally disagree. He's laid more eggs, and not been good enough, more than the hated Manning, Brady and a few others.

Like I said, I think that's a result of external factors. But given where he stands numbers-wise, as frequently as he's been amazing then he has to have been much less than amazing even more.

[Legacy User]

Also illustrates he has more inconsistent/bad games than other greats....but you wonder how much multiple systems, bad OL's (most of his career) and a revolving door at WR have held him back.
WTF are you talking about? Ben has very few bad games compared to even the best QBs of all time. You. Are. Spoiled.

Totally disagree. He's laid more eggs, and not been good enough, more than the hated Manning, Brady and a few others.

Like I said, I think that's a result of external factors. But given where he stands numbers-wise, as frequently as he's been amazing then he has to have been much less than amazing even more.

I think a good exercise here would be to buy the NFL ticket, and pretend to be a fan of any other team in the league. Jump on their message boards and live the life of an NFL fan of a team not with Ben. Might be a bit eye opening.

[Minkah'n History]

Also illustrates he has more inconsistent/bad games than other greats....but you wonder how much multiple systems, bad OL's (most of his career) and a revolving door at WR have held him back.
WTF are you talking about? Ben has very few bad games compared to even the best QBs of all time. You. Are. Spoiled.

Totally disagree. He's laid more eggs, and not been good enough, more than the hated Manning, Brady and a few others.

Like I said, I think that's a result of external factors. But given where he stands numbers-wise, as frequently as he's been amazing then he has to have been much less than amazing even more.

Besides Tammy, Brees and Peyton get/got that perfect fast-paced dome to play half of their games.

[Legacy User]

I think a good exercise here would be to buy the NFL ticket, and pretend to be a fan of any other team in the league. Jump on their message boards and live the life of an NFL fan of a team not with Ben. Might be a bit eye opening.

If more Steelers fans did that there would be significantly less minute criticism of this team from the FO to Ben. Watch the second mix on Sunday Ticket for two weeks and you can see stuff that will make you glad that youre a Steelers fan.

Try watching the Jags last week struggle to put the Ravens away after its defense gave them two clinching turnovers and a stop on 4th down.
Try watching the Chargers blow a comfortable lead---TWICE .
Try watching the Rams win despite Fischer epically blowing with the red flag on obvious calls

I watch the ticket because I love football- such as it is. But I get to see what happens when you are just winging it as a franchise and appreciate Steelers football. If you are going to give Tomlin heck for "Unleash Hell"-- You have to give him credit for "Redemption Sunday" because it might have set this team right for the next 3/4 of the season.

[jeemie]

If you are going to give Tomlin heck for "Unleash Hell"-- You have to give him credit for "Redemption Sunday" because it might have set this team right for the next 3/4 of the season.

It set the team right for one game- I like seeing them come out and show they were embarrassed at the Philly performance.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves...still 12 games to play, and some tough opponents in there.

[Legacy User]

If you are going to give Tomlin heck for "Unleash Hell"-- You have to give him credit for "Redemption Sunday" because it might have set this team right for the next 3/4 of the season.

It set the team right for one game- I like seeing them come out and show they were embarrassed at the Philly performance.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves...still 12 games to play, and some tough opponents in there.

No one is getting ahead of anything. Bedwetting losses or over fellating after wins is not my style. Team had a bad week, it responded. Haley (as reported by Michele T) said the loss may have been a blessing in disguise because players were more receptive to coaching this week than they have been in a while. And the coaching staff, to their credit, didnt run and hide from the tape-- they owned up to it and made the players do the same. The team put forth an effort that I would say that is probably its best- top to bottom that we have seen since the SB run. I dont live in my own fears regarding the tough teams on this schedule-- its the bums that seem to give us more trouble than they should.

I think that a team can sometimes buy into the hype and think that will win games- like last week. This team went to confessional, said its Our Fathers, and has a renewed outlook that comes from being redeemed. I think Unleash Hell over reached because it got away from "one game at a time". This was a highly focused effort that should serve as the new standard.

[Stosh-67]

Besides Tammy, Brees and Peyton get/got that perfect fast-paced dome to play half of their games.

I've always said this too when comparing QB's.
Brees has played his whole career in great weather or in a dome.
From lovely San Diego to the dome in New Orleans.
8 home games in a dome and then another 4 division road games in typically great conditions with another dome game in Atlanta, Tampa Bay and Carolina. Hence, 12 of 16 games a year in which weather is not a factor.
Same for most of Mannings career as most of it was in in Indys dome and nice weather games of Houston, Jaxsonville and Tennessee. Again, 10 games a year where weather is most likely not a factor.

Can not say the same for Shady, but will say handling a slightly deflated ball in cold and wet conditions is a much greater advantage then most people realize or nah sayers admit too. That goes for everone handling, grabing, clutching, holding, catching and throwing that ball from......... center, to RB, to TE's to WR's to one said Tommy the Asterik.

Does anyone think Matt Ryan does what he did yesterday, 28 of 37 503 yards and 4 TD's ( he did have 1 INT ) playing outdoors, on grass, during a rain storm or steady wet conditions.

Ben was 22 of 27 for 300 and 5 TD's on a slippery turf with a wet ball vs a better defense than what Carolina has been throwing out this year.