Our greatest fear?

[R_S]

That's an insult to Alex Jones.

[FortyThree]

It's impossible to insult Alex Jones. He's a piece of shit.

[BethlehemSteel]

It's impossible to insult Alex Jones. He's a piece of shit.

Seems you're in the demographic of liberal cuck. Who is your hero 43?

I do not subscribe to Alex Jones's methods

[FortyThree]

It's impossible to insult Alex Jones. He's a piece of shit.

Seems you're in the demographic of liberal cuck. Who is your hero 43?

I do not subscribe to Alex Jones's methods

The fact that you just used the word "cuck" tells me all I need to know.

You should probably join Prison Planet. You're just enough of a rube to believe that shit.

[steeledge]

Greatest fear....fear itself

It sells a good story line.

We got jobbed by the money brokers that control th NFL

Gameplan Fail
Lack of calls made which stopped our momentum at every turn
Fumble bullshit, see above
No desire or actual play that got us here
THe CBS narrative seemed way to scripted from moment of pregame, game open and right up to the hunt trophy

Let's watch the game again and see if things are really as they seem.

Tomlin and Steelers seem to have been given the fade order

Awww, Beth, fuck off with your conspiracy theories!


Please...

[steeledge]

What I'm saying is either Tomlin is that stupid to throw out that game plan out there doomed to fail or the NFL got its hooks in and had a good cover for their preferred outcome

Your answer is staring you right in the face, Beth.

Now, back away from the keyboard...

[BethlehemSteel]

It's impossible to insult Alex Jones. He's a piece of shit.

Seems you're in the demographic of liberal cuck. Who is your hero 43?

I do not subscribe to Alex Jones's methods

The fact that you just used the word "cuck" tells me all I need to know.

You should probably join Prison Planet. You're just enough of a rube to believe that shit.

No, youre probably out with your pink hat shouting tolerant left

[FortyThree]

Haha, is that supposed to be an insult?

[BethlehemSteel]

Haha, is that supposed to be an insult?

this is how i picture you

[steeledge]

is there a point at which you become ashamed by your unabashed lunacy, B(eth)S(teel)?

[FortyThree]

Haha, is that supposed to be an insult?

this is how i picture you

Nah I recently shaved and I think I'm probably much taller than that dude.

[Legacy User]

I'm sure the Steelers went with the gameplans they sincerely believed in. You can call them stupid or insane if you wish. Or maybe, just maybe, they didn't think they had the horses to run the schemes they needed to to beat the Pats so went with schemes they felt were the best given the circumstances.

So, Beth, why would the NFL favor the Pats? After the rift caused by Deflategate, shouldn't the NFL want the Pats to lose? And go to any Bengals message board. According to them, the Steelers are one of the leagues Golden Teams with all of the millions of fans we have. Why wouldn't the NFL favor us to win?

[86n96]

Keep fighting the good fight, Beth. You may be a nutjob motherfucker, but you're our nutjob motherfucker.

[BethlehemSteel]

Sure thing. Have to keep you folks always thinking outside the box, because many of life's answers lie there.

[Obviously]

Legendary thread.

[Legacy User]

I'm sure the Steelers went with the gameplans they sincerely believed in. You can call them stupid or insane if you wish. Or maybe, just maybe, they didn't think they had the horses to run the schemes they needed to to beat the Pats so went with schemes they felt were the best given the circumstances.

So, Beth, why would the NFL favor the Pats? After the rift caused by Deflategate, shouldn't the NFL want the Pats to lose? And go to any Bengals message board. According to them, the Steelers are one of the leagues Golden Teams with all of the millions of fans we have. Why wouldn't the NFL favor us to win?

This is where I am at. I am DEFINITELY in the camp that things are not on the up and up. But it's hard to wrap my head around this one. I thought the officiating was EMBARRASSING this week. Are you to tell me that the Patriots played a PERFECT game and didn't commit ONE infraction? Bullshit. But why would the league be trying to help the team they were just recently in court with? Was this part of the "settlement"?

As for the gameplan I think it's just a "we do what we do" situation. Tomlin ain't that bright. He coaches on gut. He excels in coaching against guys who are on his level of intelligence. He (generally) motivates his team well and keeps his players' belief. But against top tier coaches, he's deer in the headlights.

[Nick79]

I'm sure the Steelers went with the gameplans they sincerely believed in. You can call them stupid or insane if you wish. Or maybe, just maybe, they didn't think they had the horses to run the schemes they needed to to beat the Pats so went with schemes they felt were the best given the circumstances.

So, Beth, why would the NFL favor the Pats? After the rift caused by Deflategate, shouldn't the NFL want the Pats to lose? And go to any Bengals message board. According to them, the Steelers are one of the leagues Golden Teams with all of the millions of fans we have. Why wouldn't the NFL favor us to win?

This is where I am at. I am DEFINITELY in the camp that things are not on the up and up. But it's hard to wrap my head around this one. I thought the officiating was EMBARRASSING this week. Are you to tell me that the Patriots played a PERFECT game and didn't commit ONE infraction? Bullshit. But why would the league be trying to help the team they were just recently in court with? Was this part of the "settlement"?

As for the gameplan I think it's just a "we do what we do" situation. Tomlin ain't that bright. He coaches on gut. He excels in coaching against guys who are on his level of intelligence. He (generally) motivates his team well and keeps his players' belief. But against top tier coaches, he's deer in the headlights.

And, as I mentioned above, if the league was rigging the Super Bowl for maximum interest, WHY THE FALCONS?

Falcons are probably overall among the least popular teams! They have ZERO HISTORY beyond one Super Bowl appearance, name the 3 greatest Falcons of all time?

If you're rigging the outcome for interest and TV ratings, how about

Patriots/Cowboys
Patriots/Packers
Patriots/Giants
Patriots/Seahawks
Steelers/Cowboys
Steelers/Packers
Steelers/Giants
Steelers/Seahawks
Chiefs/Packers
Raiders/Packers
Raiders/Cowboys

All of these matchups have way more popular teams, with historic match ups, iconic history. If you where rigging it the Falcons are not the choice

[BethlehemSteel]

I'm sure the Steelers went with the gameplans they sincerely believed in. You can call them stupid or insane if you wish. Or maybe, just maybe, they didn't think they had the horses to run the schemes they needed to to beat the Pats so went with schemes they felt were the best given the circumstances.

So, Beth, why would the NFL favor the Pats? After the rift caused by Deflategate, shouldn't the NFL want the Pats to lose? And go to any Bengals message board. According to them, the Steelers are one of the leagues Golden Teams with all of the millions of fans we have. Why wouldn't the NFL favor us to win?

I figured that this year we'd get some hint hint, help. Well that didn't happen, but the season is still not over

Saying the steelers didn't have the horses, is a cop out. We were on a 9 game run, full of man concepts and interior pressure. Who knows, they should have been prepared to face them again since 10/23 was the last outing. Let's not beat a dead horse. They failed huge with the game plan.

Interesting that Kraft and Goofwell keep their distance, but really still ham it up plenty.

Let's see how the script ends. I still think Kraft is puppeteering Roger.

[BethlehemSteel]

is there a point at which you become ashamed by your unabashed lunacy, B(eth)S(teel)?

There is no lunacy, just a different point of view.

Enjoy the show.

[BethlehemSteel]

Like I said, i think he's still cucked into Kraft

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/01/25/r ... rophy/amp/

Roger Goodell: ‘It Would Be An Honor’ To Hand Tom Brady The Lombardi Trophy

January 25, 2017 12:46 PM
BOSTON (CBS) — One of the enduring storylines surrounding Tom Brady and the Patriots in the 2016 season, ever since the quarterback served a four-game suspension, is the idea of Roger Goodell having to hand the Lombardi Trophy or Super Bowl MVP award to Brady after the Patriots won the Super Bowl. What would the NFL commissioner do? How would he feel in such a situation?

Radio host Colin Cowherd asked Goodell that very question in a rare interview appearance by the commissioner on his show The Herd. From the perspective of most Patriots fans, having to hand the most coveted trophy in football over to Brady after everything they went through during the DeflateGate saga would make Goodell sick to his stomach. Would he feel uncomfortable?

“Not for a second,” said Goodell. “This is one of the great opportunities we have – two dominant teams playing in the Super Bowl. The Patriots and Falcons both earned the opportunity to be there, and whoever wins that championship is going to have to earn it.

“Tom Brady is one of the all-time greats; he has been for several years. He’s on the precipice of winning at least his fifth Super Bowl ring. It would be an honor.”

Goodell was also asked about why he did not go to Gillette Stadium for the AFC Championship Game between the Patriots and Steelers, instead opting to go to Atlanta for the second straight week to see the NFC Championship Game between the Falcons and Green Bay Packers. Cowherd asked Goodell if there were any safety concerns involved with avoiding Foxboro.


“No, Colin,” said Goodell. “Listen, we had two great games. I was in Boston two years ago for the divisional and the championship games. I try to get to as many stadiums as I can. But, you know, we had two great games and you have to choose. And frankly, the focus should be on the players, the coaches, and the great game, and that’s where it was this weekend and the way it should be.”

On his relationship with Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Goodell admitted that the two have had their differences in recent years – but that it’s simply part of doing business with each other.


“I wouldn’t be doing my job if somebody wasn’t unhappy with a decision that you make or where you’re doing it,” said Goodell. “Robert and I can disagree about things – we have a healthy respect for one another. But that’s true with any owner. That doesn’t impact my relationship or the fact that we work together to try to make the NFL better, ultimately.

“I can’t agree with everyone at every moment, and I shouldn’t. … It’s not personal, it’s professional, and it’s to make sure were doing everything to protect the great game we have and promote it.”

If Goodell really is feeling any discomfort over potentially handing trophies over to Brady, Kraft, or Bill Belichick, he will certainly keep it hidden

[jeemie]

I'm sure the Steelers went with the gameplans they sincerely believed in. You can call them stupid or insane if you wish. Or maybe, just maybe, they didn't think they had the horses to run the schemes they needed to to beat the Pats so went with schemes they felt were the best given the circumstances.

So, Beth, why would the NFL favor the Pats? After the rift caused by Deflategate, shouldn't the NFL want the Pats to lose? And go to any Bengals message board. According to them, the Steelers are one of the leagues Golden Teams with all of the millions of fans we have. Why wouldn't the NFL favor us to win?

This is where I am at. I am DEFINITELY in the camp that things are not on the up and up. But it's hard to wrap my head around this one. I thought the officiating was EMBARRASSING this week. Are you to tell me that the Patriots played a PERFECT game and didn't commit ONE infraction? Bullshit. But why would the league be trying to help the team they were just recently in court with? Was this part of the "settlement"?

As for the gameplan I think it's just a "we do what we do" situation. Tomlin ain't that bright. He coaches on gut. He excels in coaching against guys who are on his level of intelligence. He (generally) motivates his team well and keeps his players' belief. But against top tier coaches, he's deer in the headlights.

And, as I mentioned above, if the league was rigging the Super Bowl for maximum interest, WHY THE FALCONS?

Falcons are probably overall among the least popular teams! They have ZERO HISTORY beyond one Super Bowl appearance, name the 3 greatest Falcons of all time?

If you're rigging the outcome for interest and TV ratings, how about

Patriots/Cowboys
Patriots/Packers
Patriots/Giants
Patriots/Seahawks
Steelers/Cowboys
Steelers/Packers
Steelers/Giants
Steelers/Seahawks
Chiefs/Packers
Raiders/Packers
Raiders/Cowboys

All of these matchups have way more popular teams, with historic match ups, iconic history. If you where rigging it the Falcons are not the choice

If you listen to Brian Tuohy of TheFixIsIn.com, Atlanta is opening a brand new stadium, The Mercedes Benz Dome, next year. It's going to make Jerrah's palace look like a dump, with a retractable dome that opens and closes like a flower, and a scoreboard that wraps around the entire ring at the top of the stadium.

IIRC, that same stadium hosts a Super Bowl in a couple of years, but wouldn't it look good on opening Thursday night in September with a Super Bowl banner being raised, and a new star in the QB Fraternity being born?

Additionally, wouldn't you know it, but there are rematches for both championship games and the Super Bowl scheduled for next season.

So, for example, if New England wins, they could host Atlanta Thursday night for the opener in a Super Bowl rematch.

If Atlanta wins, they can raise their banner in that beautiful new stadium while playing host to those Green Bay Packers.

[BethlehemSteel]

Is that a recent blogging by him? edit, AH i see he published his 2016 update finally.

Hmm...fits the narrative on new stadum/super bowl appearance/hosting a SB

Lets hope the script is an Arthur Blank Win, and his speech:

Roger: I'd like to thank everyone in the Falcons organization, the fans and the moral righteous!!

We did cheat a few years ago, but we admitted our wrongs and took the punishment as we should, no complaints

We are now America's Champions.

I'd buy a falcons jersey if he said that.

[Thrillsseeker]

Here we were...trembling about the prospect of Dion Lewis/James White matched up on our LBs. These two, plus Blount caught a total of 6 balls for 24 yards. Of course, with Edelman & Hogan wide the fuck open all night, the backs didn't need to do shit in the passing game.

No doubt. Just unreal still taking in and letting what happened even sink in. I'll never get over it. I'm not seething mad still but damn If I'm not let down and or ready to listen to nfl radio on my drive in/home for work. Can't do it.

Bless you all that have or that choose to live up there near that shit. I can't even imagine. My thoughts are with you. Your stronger men than me. I just simply couldn't do it.

I'm looking forward to FA and the draft to see how the new pieces to our puzzle will fit into our team. Fuck NE. Let's go Falcons!

[BethlehemSteel]

CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS



Just prior to this Sunday's games, I was alerted to this website which details future match-ups for each NFL team per the league's dictated scheduling system through 2019. Assuming the site is correct--and I don't know why you'd make a fake website dedicated to that--the NFL's lucky streak was about to continue. In 2017, the NFL and its broadcast partners were to be blessed with a rematch of both Conference Championship games--the Falcons were scheduled to host the Packers while the Patriots would travel to PIttsburgh to again face the Steelers. On top of that, again thanks to this "quirk," the Falcons were to play New England and the Packers are set to battle the Steelers in 2017. In other words, by sheer "coincidence" the NFL could potentially be guaranteed not just AFC and NFC Championship rematches, but a Super Bowl rematch as well...if things worked out (wink, wink).

As fate would have it, both the Steelers and the Packers reportedly came down with "the flu" in the days leading up to their respective games. Bummer. The Steelers also had a crazed Patriots fan pull the fire alarm at the team's hotel at 3 am the morning of their game. Steelers star RB Le'Veon Bell "injured" his groin early in the game and never returned. Packers got their #1 WR Jordy Nelson back from broken ribs and did worse.

Any of this sound funny to you?

In the NFC Championship game, the Packers were steamrolled by the Falcons and Matt Ryan. I had written a few weeks ago that because the Falcons were set to open up a new stadium (seen above) in 2017 that went from being privately funded to publicly--and that many in Atlanta weren't happy with that--there was a chance (5% in my mind) for the Falcons to reach the Super Bowl to appease those angered by the change. Well, here they are.

I had also written that the Giants, with their three star WRs, should throw for 500 yards on the Packers weak pass defense (and if not, something was up). They didn't. Neither did the Cowboys feed Dez Bryant as they should have since he looked like a man among boys during the game. But only the Falcons were bright enough to see this mismatch and used Julio Jones to exploit it to the hilt. And people were surprised Aaron Rodgers' "magic" failed the Packers?

CBS Sports had an article about the 2016 NFL playoffs being the "worst ever." Why? Too many lopsided games and not enough nailbiters. And while this is true, another thought occurred to me--where have the referees been in this playoff season? Could this be a teltale sign that officials do influence NFL outcomes, and have artificially kept regular season games closer than they should have been? Because not one playoff game has been "marred" by a "bad" call. Certainly a few have been questionable--did the Falcons recover the Packers fumble on the 1-yard line or was it a touchback, and did Tom Brady fumble on the QB sneak which the Steelers recovered?--but nothing that has really altered a game or caused controversy.

In the AFC Championship game, there wasn't a single flag thrown in the entire first half. In the end, five penalties were assesed--three on the Steelers (for 19 yards) and two on the Patriots (for 10 yards). There were 10 total assessed in the Packers-Falcons game, the biggest of which was the facemasking call against Rodgers (!) and on the subsequent play, a seemingly "make-up" pass interference flag against the very Falcons DB Rodgers facemasked.

If this wasn't a case of the referees "letting them play," I don't know what is. Maybe both the Falcons and the Patriots picked up on this faster and used it to their advantage better which is why both ran away with their respective games. But for the NFL supposedly having their "best of the best" officials on the field, those referees weren't too concerned with holding, pass interference, or any other subjective penalties that could be called. It was noticeable enough that Grady Jackson of the Falcons told Pro Football Weekly that the Packers struggle when a game is "played fair." That, football fans, is a scary statement.

So Super Bowl LI(e) is the Falcons v. the Patriots. Who wins? I'm sticking with my original assessment which was that there's no way NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell hands that Lombardi Trophy over to Tom Brady after the entire "Deflategate" debacle. Now I know millions of NFL fans and most sportswriters would love for that very scenario to play out. And God knows, Goodell makes enough money to endure a little egg on his face by eating a plateful of crow. But that's not the way the NFL typically rolls.

Atlanta's never won a Super Bowl despite being in the league the same number of years the Super Bowl has been in existence, and I can foresee the spectacle that is the franchise hoisting the Championship banner on opening night of their new stadium on primetime TV. That's what the NFL loves, and that's what I believe we'll see.

Stay tuned...

[Steelcody7]

Only a delusional wack job believes the NFL is fixed.

You can easily have corrupt officials, but it's impossible to rig the NFL. There are too many players who would out the league. (concussion victims, brain damaged, etc.) There are too many people involved to cover up such a massive league. It simply cannot happen. Not to mention the guys who love football and wouldn't play in a fixed league. (Favre, Ben, Manning, etc.) The Steelers defensive game plan was awful and no adjustments were made at half.

[jeemie]

Only a delusional wack job believes the NFL is fixed.

You can easily have corrupt officials, but it's impossible to rig the NFL. There are too many players who would out the league. (concussion victims, brain damaged, etc.) There are too many people involved to cover up such a massive league. It simply cannot happen. Not to mention the guys who love football and wouldn't play in a fixed league. (Favre, Ben, Manning, etc.) The Steelers defensive game plan was awful and no adjustments were made at half.

I could be wrong...it might be someone else...but I think Tuohy is the nutjob who thinks the reason the NFL PTB hate the Patriots so much is because Kraft and Belichick are renegades who won't play by their scripted rules, and are therefore stealing away more than their fair share of titles.

The reasoning behind this is that the NFL PTB can read the tea leaves, and know their sport has limited time left before its juggernaut falls apart, mostly because fewer and fewer kids are playing football.

Therefore, they're trying to maximize revenues now while also "spreading the championship wealth around", so each owner gets a bit of increased revenues that comes along with being a champion.

And Belichick's sophisticated cheating machine is allowing Robert Kraft to upset that particular apple cart.

It might not be Tuohy...but I know I read that somewhere. Seriously.

[R_S]

Only a delusional wack job believes the NFL is fixed.

You can easily have corrupt officials, but it's impossible to rig the NFL. There are too many players who would out the league. (concussion victims, brain damaged, etc.) There are too many people involved to cover up such a massive league. It simply cannot happen. Not to mention the guys who love football and wouldn't play in a fixed league. (Favre, Ben, Manning, etc.) The Steelers defensive game plan was awful and no adjustments were made at half.

You could say this about most major conspiracies in the world. And you would be correct.

[BethlehemSteel]

Only a delusional wack job believes the NFL is fixed.

You can easily have corrupt officials, but it's impossible to rig the NFL. There are too many players who would out the league. (concussion victims, brain damaged, etc.) There are too many people involved to cover up such a massive league. It simply cannot happen. Not to mention the guys who love football and wouldn't play in a fixed league. (Favre, Ben, Manning, etc.) The Steelers defensive game plan was awful and no adjustments were made at half.

There is plenty to be had for determined outcomes. You need to stop beating the narrative that it is squeaky clean

[jeemie]

Only a delusional wack job believes the NFL is fixed.

You can easily have corrupt officials, but it's impossible to rig the NFL. There are too many players who would out the league. (concussion victims, brain damaged, etc.) There are too many people involved to cover up such a massive league. It simply cannot happen. Not to mention the guys who love football and wouldn't play in a fixed league. (Favre, Ben, Manning, etc.) The Steelers defensive game plan was awful and no adjustments were made at half.

There is plenty to be had for determined outcomes. You need to stop beating the narrative that it is squeaky clean

Did you ever read Tuohy's season-long narratives on his website?

Watch how many times he changes his mind as to who they're favoring, Beth.

That's called "sticking to your preferred explanation no matter what the evidence is telling you".

[BethlehemSteel]

Only a delusional wack job believes the NFL is fixed.

You can easily have corrupt officials, but it's impossible to rig the NFL. There are too many players who would out the league. (concussion victims, brain damaged, etc.) There are too many people involved to cover up such a massive league. It simply cannot happen. Not to mention the guys who love football and wouldn't play in a fixed league. (Favre, Ben, Manning, etc.) The Steelers defensive game plan was awful and no adjustments were made at half.

I could be wrong...it might be someone else...but I think Tuohy is the nutjob who thinks the reason the NFL PTB hate the Patriots so much is because Kraft and Belichick are renegades who won't play by their scripted rules, and are therefore stealing away more than their fair share of titles.

The reasoning behind this is that the NFL PTB can read the tea leaves, and know their sport has limited time left before its juggernaut falls apart, mostly because fewer and fewer kids are playing football.

Therefore, they're trying to maximize revenues now while also "spreading the championship wealth around", so each owner gets a bit of increased revenues that comes along with being a champion.

And Belichick's sophisticated cheating machine is allowing Robert Kraft to upset that particular apple cart.

It might not be Tuohy...but I know I read that somewhere. Seriously.

might be the other steeler fan author on the patriot topic. i'll have to check, might be someone else though

it's a sound theory if you look at it