OT-Call For Roger Goodell To Resign?

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OT-Call For Roger Goodell To Resign?

Post by Steelafan77 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:16 pm

Had to share. YT Vid would not embed, sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiSF3AR698I#t=54



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Post by BethlehemSteel » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:38 pm

Where can the public vote? Id rug up the counter software to vote 24/7

Fuck roger
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Post by BethlehemSteel » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:30 pm

I've come to hate Doberman but bravo. That was the best!!!
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Post by Kodiak » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:36 pm

I've said it before....Goodell is the classic mediocre/incompetent leader or CEO that was in the right place at the right time to ride the wave.

It was only a matter of time before his shitty PR policy masquerading as a code of conduct bit him in the ass. It's the one part of his job, maybe the only part, that he mostly owns.
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Post by Jobu » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:46 pm

Don't waste your time. The only people that matter, the owners, love him. He'll be around until HE decides he doesn't want to do it anymore. You all will save yourself some ulcers if you just accept it and let it go.

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:01 pm

Jobus Rum wrote:Don't waste your time. The only people that matter, the owners, love him. He'll be around until HE decides he doesn't want to do it anymore. You all will save yourself some ulcers if you just accept it and let it go.


This fiasco is getting a lot of heat from the media. It's great. All on goofwell's fake rug
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Post by Legacy User » Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:00 am

I normally want to vomit when I listen to Olbermann, but KO hits a home run with this...outside of the BR crap (the reason why nothing was given to BR after the first "offense", is that there was no "offense")

I hope this causes chaos at NFL HQ.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:14 am

optioncoach wrote:I normally want to vomit when I listen to Olbermann, but KO hits a home run with this...outside of the BR crap (the reason why nothing was given to BR after the first "offense", is that there was no "offense")

I hope this causes chaos at NFL HQ.

Reminds me of an old saying, you can't rape the willing.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:07 am

I hate Roge...but Keif makes me wonder just how bad it could be if it were up to pussies like him. Something like new NFL commish Gloria Allred.

The hypersensitive, completely feminized sports media never fails to ignore basic facts to stir up "uncivilized" sissy shit storms of outrage against football off of phony assumptions...all the while the typical football fan is oblivious to the agenda...despite the fact it is always the weeping Keifs, obnoxious and stupid Romes, the so sophisticated Gumball, shoe box sized Cuntas, etc....at the helm of the stinking pile of televised shit, a mass market Macey's sized Float of assume the opposite of truth in a televised parade of "obvious yet not stated facts" ...obvious only due to ridiculous exposure and repetition of Big Feminist Sports Medias own making ...the big log, pipe clogging bullshit inferences in the stream of dozens of mostly bullshit sports programs .

1- NFL players commit domestic violence at half the rate of the general population. Rice faced the same penalty any first offender would and the NFL fined him 500K on top of that. Where is the injustice? Why all the outrage when no injury of any sort was reported by EMTs or the police? Not even a phantom concussion....

2- I've never heard or read Redskins as a slur. I've read Mein Kamf, Turner Diaries, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Wall Street Journal, really every controversial piece of literature or publication of the past 100 years, I can rattle off racial slurs you have never heard of...yet I never have come across Redskin as a slur. Beyond that...their uniform is almost uniquely positive in it's representation of a racial mythos...beats the shit out of a fat Leprechaun.

3- CTE as defined by Boston University is complete bullshit. There standard is so common and symptoms so broad that the latest findings included the commentary "that every brain sent to Boston will be CTE positive." Hopefully something really bad happens to these fuckers, Will Smith and the upcoming hollywood football hit job.

Nearly all of these sports journalists of today are complete pussies that secretly harbor the intention of killing every contact sport. Fuck Keif...he didn't even cry this time.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:44 am

I agree with KO here and he makes a great speech of what a shitty Commish the Rog really is. And as stated we know he isn't going anywhere.

But.....when you have shitty lawmakers you need to figure out how to get around them. Obvious he's inconsistently consistent. And the only thing he's consistent about is, sincere or not, he wants to see genuine remorse to the public. Show how sorry you are and that you've learned your lesson so the media can write that story too.

Its the difference between A-rod and Giambi, Bonds, McGwire, old Ryan Braun vs new Ryan Braun. He wants you to own up to it in the public eye as to not put a blackmark on the game to effect his precious bottom line.

Only problem is Rog, YOU ARE the biggest black mark on the game right now

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:57 pm

I have plenty of issues with Roge, but this is shit journalism of the shittiest kind.

I'll focus on his comments on the NFL and domestic violence which are summarized with the NFL just gave an entire gender another black eye with the leniency of it's penalty. This calls for the listener to make two inferences in order to share his outrage. First, that NFL players commit acts of domestic violence at a greater rate then society at large. That is clearly false, as not only do NFL players commit domestic violence at half the rate of society at large...the idea that there celebrity protects them from legal consequences are also false...NFL players are convicted in 36% of DV cases that go to trial, while the general public is convicted 27% of the time.

It also makes the listener infer that other Pro Sports organizations have more punitive guidelines then the NFL. That clearly isn't the case.

The NBA has no domestic violence policy-

To be fair, the league does have a serious addiction to marijuana. But frankly, it pales in comparison to the rash of domestic abuse charges leveled against its players, which have reached endemic proportions and cast a grim shadow over the league. In just the past week, DeAndre Liggins, Royce White and Jared Sullinger have all been accused of perpetrating acts of domestic violence (the allegations against DeAndre Liggins are particularly disturbing). But perhaps the worst part is that none of them have received a punishment from their team or the league. They must be thanking their lucky stars they weren’t caught rolling a blunt.

http://rmsports.com/basketball/the-nbas-domestic-violence-crisis/


MLB's on domestic violence-

At no time in the last quarter of a century has there been a commissioner-level sanctioning of any player for domestic violence, and most teams haven't bothered either. A review of that period shows allegations and sometimes convictions (and/or charges dismissed via pretrial intervention, as with Rice) against stars as big as Darryl Strawberry, Jose Canseco and Albert Belle without any action being taken. In 2005, Dodgers outfielder Milton Bradley was visited by police three times on domestic violence calls. No charges were filed, no team discipline initiated. The Dodgers nominated Bradley for the Roberto Clemente Award that year. In January 2000, Rockies pitcher Pedro Astacio pleaded guilty in January 2000 to a misdemeanor charge of punching his pregnant wife. He started on Opening Day that year.

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/7/28/5936835/ray-rice-chuck-knoblauch-minnesota-twins-mlb-domestic-abuse-violence

My problem with Roge is the very existence of this policy. We don't get the news blast from the other sports because they don't wallow in all the extra publicity.

I can't excuse this sort of shit journalism because I hate Roge.

I can't excuse the mainstream media's failure to publicize the numerous medical experts that have found the Boston U CTE claims to be based on shit science.

I can't pretend I ever thought of Redskin as any sort of slur until some social justice media kunt made it his cause and these elitist, sissy motherfuckers jumped on the bandwagon...

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Post by steeledge » Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:47 pm

Zivco wrote:I hate Roge...but Keif makes me wonder just how bad it could be if it were up to pussies like him. Something like new NFL commish Gloria Allred.

The hypersensitive, completely feminized sports media never fails to ignore basic facts to stir up "uncivilized" sissy shit storms of outrage against football off of phony assumptions...all the while the typical football fan is oblivious to the agenda...despite the fact it is always the weeping Keifs, obnoxious and stupid Romes, the so sophisticated Gumball, shoe box sized Cuntas, etc....at the helm of the stinking pile of televised shit, a mass market Macey's sized Float of assume the opposite of truth in a televised parade of "obvious yet not stated facts" ...obvious only due to ridiculous exposure and repetition of Big Feminist Sports Medias own making ...the big log, pipe clogging bullshit inferences in the stream of dozens of mostly bullshit sports programs .

1- NFL players commit domestic violence at half the rate of the general population. Rice faced the same penalty any first offender would and the NFL fined him 500K on top of that. Where is the injustice? Why all the outrage when no injury of any sort was reported by EMTs or the police? Not even a phantom concussion....

2- I've never heard or read Redskins as a slur. I've read Mein Kamf, Turner Diaries, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Wall Street Journal, really every controversial piece of literature or publication of the past 100 years, I can rattle off racial slurs you have never heard of...yet I never have come across Redskin as a slur. Beyond that...their uniform is almost uniquely positive in it's representation of a racial mythos...beats the shit out of a fat Leprechaun.

3- CTE as defined by Boston University is complete bullshit. There standard is so common and symptoms so broad that the latest findings included the commentary "that every brain sent to Boston will be CTE positive." Hopefully something really bad happens to these fuckers, Will Smith and the upcoming hollywood football hit job.

Nearly all of these sports journalists of today are complete pussies that secretly harbor the intention of killing every contact sport. Fuck Keif...he didn't even cry this time.

Ziv, I'm with you completely on the Redskins thing and even mostly on the CTE argument.

You are on your own with your passé reaction to the whole domestic violence thing though, and you really oughtta check yourself.

I and I believe most of society could give a rat's ass about the rate at which "NFL players commit domestic violence [when compared with] the general population".

One case is too many - are you actually using this argument to defend Ray Rice?

The glaring issue is that this felon was treated with kid gloves in response to his perpetration of a crime, and even that only because this incident was caught on tape.

What irks me is when even the media calls to question the inconsistency to BR's case, (and lest we forget, the Ginger Idget handed down a six games suspension in that one), they all - including Olberman - keep spewing this "multiple offenses" horse shit.

What "multiple offenses" if there was never any charges?!?!


I'm just glad Ben is keeping to the high road....

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:09 pm

I also find it odd that Ziv chooses to call the media's portrayal and reaction to all this "feminized." Very interesting.

But why should Roger resign? He's doing exactly what the owners want him to or he'd be out on his ass. The NFL is more profitable and popular than ever. The owners must be pleased as pie. This is like saying that the CEO of Walmart should resign for making his company zillions of dollars by selling cheap, shitty products that you don't think people should consume.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:06 pm

Steeledge wrote:I and I believe most of society could give a rat's ass about the rate at which "NFL players commit domestic violence [when compared with] the general population".


The point is the outrage is generated by people making the inference that the NFL has a problem with domestic violence. Whatever your opinion of domestic violence is, the NFL has less then half the problem with domestic violence as society at large.

Steeledge wrote:One case is too many - are you actually using this argument to defend Ray Rice?


From a SBI perspective I would be all for a season long suspension if I thought he was worth a damn.

Steeledge wrote:The glaring issue is that this felon was treated with kid gloves in response to his perpetration of a crime, and even that only because this incident was caught on tape.


Well he isn't a felon. This isn't even a misdemeanor. Once he completes anger management classes his record will entirely be expunged. You are misguided if your comments on this incident reflects a belief that domestic violence is under prosecuted...over 20 states have mandatory arrest on 911 calls where if the cop believes an incident could have happened...even if there are unanimous statements to the contrary.

500 K for an incident that the Police and EMTs found no proof of injury in is hardly kid gloves.

Steeledge wrote:What "multiple offenses" if there was never any charges?!?!


Keif again is...well he's a complete fraud of a journalist. Roge was obviously talking about multiple offenses of the NFL conduct policy, not arrests. The better to not have to point out other professional sports have just as significant domestic violence problems...yet have no penalty further then the legal ramifications.

Still Lit wrote:I also find it odd that Ziv chooses to call the media's portrayal and reaction to all this "feminized." Very interesting.


I lay all this overstated, militant, zero tolerance for domestic violence at the "academic" feminists feet. There activism is responsible for the ridiculous mandatory arrest laws...that have actually increased the murder rate 50% in domestic violence incidents in states that have adopted those laws. Football is one of there favorite targets...remember Superbowl Sunday is an epidemic of giving the women folk a good kickin? Complete made up bullshit cited as fact for over a decade.The sports media have picked it all up...pro title 9, anti-contact sports in the guise of player safety bullshit, locker room bullying, every anti-male position they can attach themselves to.

Sure, domestic violence is a social problem. But it has been completely overblown by this zero tolerance bullshit. All assaults aren't created equal. This one left no injury at all...and it cost Rice 500K. That is way out of line.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:28 pm

Zivco wrote:
Steeledge wrote:I and I believe most of society could give a rat's ass about the rate at which "NFL players commit domestic violence [when compared with] the general population".


The point is the outrage is generated by people making the inference that the NFL has a problem with domestic violence. Whatever your opinion of domestic violence is, the NFL has less then half the problem with domestic violence as society at large.

Steeledge wrote:One case is too many - are you actually using this argument to defend Ray Rice?


From a SBI perspective I would be all for a season long suspension if I thought he was worth a damn.

Steeledge wrote:The glaring issue is that this felon was treated with kid gloves in response to his perpetration of a crime, and even that only because this incident was caught on tape.


Well he isn't a felon. This isn't even a misdemeanor. Once he completes anger management classes his record will entirely be expunged. You are misguided if your comments on this incident reflects a belief that domestic violence is under prosecuted...over 20 states have mandatory arrest on 911 calls where if the cop believes an incident could have happened...even if there are unanimous statements to the contrary.

500 K for an incident that the Police and EMTs found no proof of injury in is hardly kid gloves.

Steeledge wrote:What "multiple offenses" if there was never any charges?!?!


Keif again is...well he's a complete fraud of a journalist. Roge was obviously talking about multiple offenses of the NFL conduct policy, not arrests. The better to not have to point out other professional sports have just as significant domestic violence problems...yet have no penalty further then the legal ramifications.

Still Lit wrote:I also find it odd that Ziv chooses to call the media's portrayal and reaction to all this "feminized." Very interesting.


I lay all this overstated, militant, zero tolerance for domestic violence at the "academic" feminists feet. There activism is responsible for the ridiculous mandatory arrest laws...that have actually increased the murder rate 50% in domestic violence incidents in states that have adopted those laws. Football is one of there favorite targets...remember Superbowl Sunday is an epidemic of giving the women folk a good kickin? Complete made up bullshit cited as fact for over a decade.The sports media have picked it all up...pro title 9, anti-contact sports in the guise of player safety bullshit, locker room bullying, every anti-male position they can attach themselves to.

Sure, domestic violence is a social problem. But it has been completely overblown by this zero tolerance bullshit. All assaults aren't created equal. This one left no injury at all...and it cost Rice 500K. That is way out of line.


Your generalizati

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:28 pm

Zivco wrote:
Steeledge wrote:I and I believe most of society could give a rat's ass about the rate at which "NFL players commit domestic violence [when compared with] the general population".


The point is the outrage is generated by people making the inference that the NFL has a problem with domestic violence. Whatever your opinion of domestic violence is, the NFL has less then half the problem with domestic violence as society at large.

Steeledge wrote:One case is too many - are you actually using this argument to defend Ray Rice?


From a SBI perspective I would be all for a season long suspension if I thought he was worth a damn.

Steeledge wrote:The glaring issue is that this felon was treated with kid gloves in response to his perpetration of a crime, and even that only because this incident was caught on tape.


Well he isn't a felon. This isn't even a misdemeanor. Once he completes anger management classes his record will entirely be expunged. You are misguided if your comments on this incident reflects a belief that domestic violence is under prosecuted...over 20 states have mandatory arrest on 911 calls where if the cop believes an incident could have happened...even if there are unanimous statements to the contrary.

500 K for an incident that the Police and EMTs found no proof of injury in is hardly kid gloves.

Steeledge wrote:What "multiple offenses" if there was never any charges?!?!


Keif again is...well he's a complete fraud of a journalist. Roge was obviously talking about multiple offenses of the NFL conduct policy, not arrests. The better to not have to point out other professional sports have just as significant domestic violence problems...yet have no penalty further then the legal ramifications.

Still Lit wrote:I also find it odd that Ziv chooses to call the media's portrayal and reaction to all this "feminized." Very interesting.


I lay all this overstated, militant, zero tolerance for domestic violence at the "academic" feminists feet. There activism is responsible for the ridiculous mandatory arrest laws...that have actually increased the murder rate 50% in domestic violence incidents in states that have adopted those laws. Football is one of there favorite targets...remember Superbowl Sunday is an epidemic of giving the women folk a good kickin? Complete made up bullshit cited as fact for over a decade.The sports media have picked it all up...pro title 9, anti-contact sports in the guise of player safety bullshit, locker room bullying, every anti-male position they can attach themselves to.

Sure, domestic violence is a social problem. But it has been completely overblown by this zero tolerance bullshit. All assaults aren't created equal. This one left no injury at all...and it cost Rice 500K. That is way out of line.


Your generalization of feminism is overgeneralized.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Aug 03, 2014 3:50 pm

Still Lit wrote:Your generalization of feminism is overgeneralized.


I dunno if you can over generalize about feminism...use to be porno was the favorite target and football second...but I've recently learned feminists have moved on to porno is now "sex positive"...and biology doesn't matter, there are about 50 different genders :lol:

I use to think I thought about pussy to much...these activists today...pussy, cock, both, triads, flip flops, any sexual kink under the sun on the mind 24-7....and my reading is it's almost all chicks into this shit. I dunno...it's always been singular, unobtainable pussy perfection that's been where my thoughts drift...I've got no problem with kinks, but the idea of advertising kinks as a "sophisticated lifestyle" is like a hail mary of hoping a bunch of other people validate your bent proclivities.

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Post by V DUB » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:28 pm

Haven't read the thread yet...

Thoughts on KO....I applaud him for not bowing too the NFL mafia. It's about fucking time someone called The Don on his inconsistent bullshit.

That said, he comes off a teeeeensie bit over dramatic in this rant. Seems catered too the overly political correct crowd. Calling for Rogers head over a lack of punishment, when there's 1,000 different reason's that are more deserving. Keith sound's like he witnessed his mom getting beaten nightly from a drunken step father, in this rant. By that, I mean he makes it sound personal.

Agree with his overall point, but good Lord, leave the theatrics out of it.

If anyone takes this the wrong way, let me be clear...only pussies hit women, especially meat heads that bench 250 lbs like it's a tooth pick.

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Post by Legacy User » Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:59 pm

No real man would tolerate another man hitting a woman for any reason whatsoever.

Not cool.

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Post by R_S » Mon Aug 04, 2014 12:38 am

Just because she didn't need stitched up or a hospital stay doesn't mean there was no injury. If she was knocked out cold, she had at the least a minor concussion.

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