Tomlin Has Never Had A Losing Season

[SteelerDayTrader]

Alot of you really dont want to get it......

Standing back a bit Im beginning to think this:

If you are Tomlin and you have a HOF talent like Ben who do want having the final say on the offense on game day the QB or the OC ??
Sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt.

I also think it may just come down to players.

You cant just pickup where you left off when you lose a Polamalu ....a Shazier
Most of the time Minkahs dont fall in your lap.

Add in the fact that for years Tomlin managed ALOT of mileage out of a guy so crazy that although he has HOF talent both Gruden/Mayock and Shady/Belicheat got ZERO from him. In retrospect the Steelers fleeced the hell outta the Raiders on that one.

Oh and your previously All-Pro level RB just decides to not show up for an entire year.

Tomlin isnt the greatest gameday HC but he is damn DAMN far from the worst and Id say he's very rarely if ever not in the top 5 HC's in the NFL.

I think alot of you are like Peter King. Lol. Lots of talk but in reality watch very little football on the whole. Lol.

[Kodiak]

Alot of you really dont want to get it......

I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Tomlin's task is to win championships, not give hand-jobs to the stars. Letting Ben do whatever Ben wants is neither leadership nor coaching.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Alot of you really dont want to get it......

I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Tomlin's task is to win championships, not give hand-jobs to the stars. Letting Ben do whatever Ben wants is neither leadership nor coaching.

Ok. lol. If thats what you think is happening you just roll with that

[K_C_]

they needed about 10-15 yards and had :22

Ben was 6 for 8 on the drive for 60 yards. He was hurting but he had enough juice to get a GW FG attempt, with or without Burfict.

It was a wet, shitty night. Terrible conditions to kick in. You forgot that part.

Ben almost got AB killed with that throw. He had very little left in his arm. He was dumping it off. His passes over 10 yards looked horrible.

Shoulder was gone that night. They don't win without the 30 in penalty yards but you have to take whatever you can get when you face the great AJ McCarron.

Wish they got breaks like that against studs like Tim Tebow or Blake Bortles.

Talk all you want to about how Ben couldn't have gotten a FG without the Bengals' penalties with his injured arm, but that injured arm had already moved the ball from his own 10 to the Bengals' 47. You're telling me he couldn't have gotten another 17 yards in 22 seconds? Of course he could. You just don't want to give Tomlin credit for a playoff win.

The Bengals were a good team, it was in their place, they were insanely out of control, we were screwed out of a TD on Shaz's fumble return.

And isn't keeping control of your players part of the game? If the Bengals weren't able to keep their players under control and we take advantage of that, why do we need to apologize for that?

Oh yeah sure, they had it in the bag. Ben torn up shoulder, his throws that weren't dump offs looked like utter shit and still needing to get to close to the 20 yard line in shitty conditions to give Boz a good shot.

Yeah, I'm sure we had it in the bag and when you play the great AJ McCarron, all you really want is a chance at the end of the game. That's all you can hope for, really.

"The Bengals were a good team". No sir. They were a GREAT team, especially with AJ McCarron leading the troops.

[BethlehemSteel]

Winning a Super Bowl is not a birthright.

How many fans of my age (49) of other teams can remember winning two as a kid and going to four as an adult winning two of them.

I think if Tomlin somehow won 4 more before he hangs them up Steeler fans would still have it as

1. Noll
2. Cowher
3. Tomlin

It would suck being a Browns, Bengals, Chiefs, Titans, Jets, Dolphins, Lions, Cardinals, etc.... fan

good post!!!

[steelmann58]

non losing seasons are all well and good but it still comes down to the Lombardi's

[Dan Smith--BYU]

In related news, Jerome Bettis is from Detroit and Hi5Steeler owns an Audi A8.

[the-other-burg]

The irony is that it took losing Ben to finally make a bold move to shore up the defense with Minkah. And it seems it also took losing Ben for our Defense to elevate their level of play. And of course, it took Ben being out for the coaches to elevate their game as well.

So apparently the Steelers defense, GM and coaches have just been complacent. Maybe when (and if) Ben returns this will finally be a top down complete team for a year or two.

[Texas Black & Gold]

The irony is that it took losing Ben to finally make a bold move to shore up the defense with Minkah. And it seems it also took losing Ben for our Defense to elevate their level of play. And of course, it took Ben being out for the coaches to elevate their game as well.

So apparently the Steelers defense, GM and coaches have just been complacent. Maybe when (and if) Ben returns this will finally be a top down complete team for a year or two.

I would be happy if the revolving door of players would slow down long enough for me to at least learn their names.

[El Kabong]

It was a wet, shitty night. Terrible conditions to kick in. You forgot that part.

Ben almost got AB killed with that throw. He had very little left in his arm. He was dumping it off. His passes over 10 yards looked horrible.

Shoulder was gone that night. They don't win without the 30 in penalty yards but you have to take whatever you can get when you face the great AJ McCarron.

Wish they got breaks like that against studs like Tim Tebow or Blake Bortles.

Talk all you want to about how Ben couldn't have gotten a FG without the Bengals' penalties with his injured arm, but that injured arm had already moved the ball from his own 10 to the Bengals' 47. You're telling me he couldn't have gotten another 17 yards in 22 seconds? Of course he could. You just don't want to give Tomlin credit for a playoff win.

The Bengals were a good team, it was in their place, they were insanely out of control, we were screwed out of a TD on Shaz's fumble return.

And isn't keeping control of your players part of the game? If the Bengals weren't able to keep their players under control and we take advantage of that, why do we need to apologize for that?

Oh yeah sure, they had it in the bag. Ben torn up shoulder, his throws that weren't dump offs looked like utter shit and still needing to get to close to the 20 yard line in shitty conditions to give Boz a good shot.

Yeah, I'm sure we had it in the bag and when you play the great AJ McCarron, all you really want is a chance at the end of the game. That's all you can hope for, really.

"The Bengals were a good team". No sir. They were a GREAT team, especially with AJ McCarron leading the troops.

Ben with his torn up shoulder and his little dumps off had already moved the ball 43 yards from his own 10 to the Bengal 47, but you're saying suddenly he was completely unable to get another 17. That's ridiculous.

I think your analysis is pretty shallow if all you do is look at the quarterback. Yes, the Bengals had AJ McCarron. The rest of that team was good.

But since we're only looking at the quarterback as if the rest of the team doesn't matter, then Tomlin must be doing a fantastic job with a rookie at quarterback now, huh?

[K_C_]

Talk all you want to about how Ben couldn't have gotten a FG without the Bengals' penalties with his injured arm, but that injured arm had already moved the ball from his own 10 to the Bengals' 47. You're telling me he couldn't have gotten another 17 yards in 22 seconds? Of course he could. You just don't want to give Tomlin credit for a playoff win.

The Bengals were a good team, it was in their place, they were insanely out of control, we were screwed out of a TD on Shaz's fumble return.

And isn't keeping control of your players part of the game? If the Bengals weren't able to keep their players under control and we take advantage of that, why do we need to apologize for that?

Oh yeah sure, they had it in the bag. Ben torn up shoulder, his throws that weren't dump offs looked like utter shit and still needing to get to close to the 20 yard line in shitty conditions to give Boz a good shot.

Yeah, I'm sure we had it in the bag and when you play the great AJ McCarron, all you really want is a chance at the end of the game. That's all you can hope for, really.

"The Bengals were a good team". No sir. They were a GREAT team, especially with AJ McCarron leading the troops.

Ben with his torn up shoulder and his little dumps off had already moved the ball 43 yards from his own 10 to the Bengal 47, but you're saying suddenly he was completely unable to get another 17. That's ridiculous.

I think your analysis is pretty shallow if all you do is look at the quarterback. Yes, the Bengals had AJ McCarron. The rest of that team was good.

But since we're only looking at the quarterback as if the rest of the team doesn't matter, then Tomlin must be doing a fantastic job with a rookie at quarterback now, huh?

Yeah, not having MC Hammer Jr and still needing close to 30 yards, with 22 seconds left on a shitty night.

They had it in the bag.

[bradshaw2ben]

Yeah, not having MC Hammer Jr and still needing close to 30 yards, with 22 seconds left on a shitty night.

They had it in the bag.

You said WITHOUT Burfict's dumbfuckery. So if Burfict DOESN't concuss AB into next season, they have the ball, :22 seconds, 2 and 10, need say 15 yards. With AB and a QB who, although injured, was making plays on that drive.

[K_C_]

Yeah, not having MC Hammer Jr and still needing close to 30 yards, with 22 seconds left on a shitty night.

They had it in the bag.

You said WITHOUT Burfict's dumbfuckery. So if Burfict DOESN't concuss AB into next season, they have the ball, :22 seconds, 2 and 10, need say 15 yards. With AB and a QB who, although injured, was making plays on that drive.

MC Hammer Jr didn't come close to catching that horrific pass. Burfict handed the Steelers 15 yards.

Pacman Jones handed them another 15 yards.

Without the 30 penalty yards and a QB on fumes, no way I believe they win that game.

[Drummer Boy]

MC Hammer Jr didn't come close to catching that horrific pass. Burfict handed the Steelers 15 yards.

Pacman Jones handed them another 15 yards.

Without the 30 penalty yards and a QB on fumes, no way I believe they win that game.

Doesn't anyone here see the obvious?

K.C., you argue that Tomlin shouldn't have needed help because they had McCarron and we had Big Ben. Then you say we couldn't have won the game without the penalties because Big Ben was hurt, or essentially because we didn't have Big Ben! That's the whole fucking point! We didn't have Big Fucking Ben. His being hurt was the biggest reason we needed that drive in the first place.

We had horrible weather damping down our biggest advantage. We had a clean TD robbed from us. We had a QB who could barely throw the ball. We had to throw Laundry Jones into one of the most hostile environments ever seen, a terrible field with a crowd full of raging morons. Of course he threw a fucking pick.

And, in any case, I think Ben had a good chance to move the ball 15-20 more yards. It might have been a story you could tell your grandkids, but fucking Burfict ruined even that.

[SteelPowerful]

Tomlin never has had a losing season with or without Big Ben. He has a winning record without Big Ben. Let that sink in for a bit. He has one Lombardi and been to the dance twice. That is more than most other NFL head coaches. And many Steeler fans want him gone.

That is some crazy shit.

[tunch]

Tomlin never has had a losing season with or without Big Ben. He has a winning record without Big Ben. Let that sink in for a bit. He has one Lombardi and been to the dance twice. That is more than most other NFL head coaches. And many Steeler fans want him gone.

That is some crazy shit.

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 8-8 there too.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Tomlin never has had a losing season with or without Big Ben. He has a winning record without Big Ben. Let that sink in for a bit. He has one Lombardi and been to the dance twice. That is more than most other NFL head coaches. And many Steeler fans want him gone.

That is some crazy shit.

"Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser." George S. Patton

And anything short of annually winning the SB is considered losing.

It must be tough being the HC of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Tomlin never has had a losing season with or without Big Ben. He has a winning record without Big Ben. Let that sink in for a bit. He has one Lombardi and been to the dance twice. That is more than most other NFL head coaches. And many Steeler fans want him gone.

That is some crazy shit.

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 8-8 there too.

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 9-7, 10-7, 11-7 and 12-7. Fixed it for you.

[tunch]

Tomlin never has had a losing season with or without Big Ben. He has a winning record without Big Ben. Let that sink in for a bit. He has one Lombardi and been to the dance twice. That is more than most other NFL head coaches. And many Steeler fans want him gone.

That is some crazy shit.

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 8-8 there too.

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 9-7, 10-7, 11-7 and 12-7. Fixed it for you.

Who's the best QB Tomlin has beaten in the playoffs?

He's had the best roster in the AFC five or six times or more and repeatedly crashed the plane into the mountain.

Meanwhile, BB keeps taking trophies with wrestlers playing guard and lacrosse players at WR.

How many Patriots start for Pittsburgh? Five?

[Texas Black & Gold]

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 8-8 there too.

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 9-7, 10-7, 11-7 and 12-7. Fixed it for you.

Who's the best QB Tomlin has beaten in the playoffs? My guess is Kurt Warner

He's had the best roster in the AFC five or six times or more and repeatedly crashed the plane into the mountain.

Meanwhile, BB keeps taking trophies with wrestlers playing guard and lacrosse players at WR. Maybe because of cheating.

How many Patriots start for Pittsburgh? Five? None. The Steelers seem to go there.

[tunch]

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 9-7, 10-7, 11-7 and 12-7. Fixed it for you.

Who's the best QB Tomlin has beaten in the playoffs? My guess is Kurt Warner

He's had the best roster in the AFC five or six times or more and repeatedly crashed the plane into the mountain.

Meanwhile, BB keeps taking trophies with wrestlers playing guard and lacrosse players at WR. Maybe because of cheating.

How many Patriots start for Pittsburgh? Five? None. The Steelers seem to go there.

You seem to be a very low-IQ individual.

[El Kabong]

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 8-8 there too.

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 9-7, 10-7, 11-7 and 12-7. Fixed it for you.

Who's the best QB Tomlin has beaten in the playoffs?

He's had the best roster in the AFC five or six times or more and repeatedly crashed the plane into the mountain.

Meanwhile, BB keeps taking trophies with wrestlers playing guard and lacrosse players at WR.

How many Patriots start for Pittsburgh? Five?

Yes, I'll go with Kurt Warner. No one is arguing that Tomlin is as good as Belichick.

[Professor Half Wit]

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 9-7, 10-7, 11-7 and 12-7. Fixed it for you.

Who's the best QB Tomlin has beaten in the playoffs?

He's had the best roster in the AFC five or six times or more and repeatedly crashed the plane into the mountain.

Meanwhile, BB keeps taking trophies with wrestlers playing guard and lacrosse players at WR.

How many Patriots start for Pittsburgh? Five?

Yes, I'll go with Kurt Warner. No one is arguing that Tomlin is as good as Belichick.

Is anyone arguing that anyone is as good as BB?

[Texas Black & Gold]

Who's the best QB Tomlin has beaten in the playoffs? My guess is Kurt Warner

He's had the best roster in the AFC five or six times or more and repeatedly crashed the plane into the mountain.

Meanwhile, BB keeps taking trophies with wrestlers playing guard and lacrosse players at WR. Maybe because of cheating.

How many Patriots start for Pittsburgh? Five? None. The Steelers seem to go there.

You seem to be a very low-IQ individual.

Thank you. I hope you feel better.
Btw, you seem to be a BB and Patriots fan. Which begs the question, why are you here? Do you need a link to the Patriots forum?

[El Kabong]

Who's the best QB Tomlin has beaten in the playoffs?

He's had the best roster in the AFC five or six times or more and repeatedly crashed the plane into the mountain.

Meanwhile, BB keeps taking trophies with wrestlers playing guard and lacrosse players at WR.

How many Patriots start for Pittsburgh? Five?

Yes, I'll go with Kurt Warner. No one is arguing that Tomlin is as good as Belichick.

Is anyone arguing that anyone is as good as BB?

Fewer and fewer unfortunately.

[jewelsongs]

Who's the best QB Tomlin has beaten in the playoffs?

He's had the best roster in the AFC five or six times or more and repeatedly crashed the plane into the mountain.

Meanwhile, BB keeps taking trophies with wrestlers playing guard and lacrosse players at WR.

How many Patriots start for Pittsburgh? Five?

Yes, I'll go with Kurt Warner. No one is arguing that Tomlin is as good as Belichick.

Is anyone arguing that anyone is as good as BB?

We all suffer to some degree with recency bias. I think you could make a pretty good argument for Paul Brown.

[tunch]

Let's hope we make the playoffs so Tomlin can be 9-7, 10-7, 11-7 and 12-7. Fixed it for you.

Who's the best QB Tomlin has beaten in the playoffs?

He's had the best roster in the AFC five or six times or more and repeatedly crashed the plane into the mountain.

Meanwhile, BB keeps taking trophies with wrestlers playing guard and lacrosse players at WR.

How many Patriots start for Pittsburgh? Five?

Yes, I'll go with Kurt Warner. No one is arguing that Tomlin is as good as Belichick.

Is Tomlin half as good as Belichick?

The standard is the standard. I've never seen Tomlin beat a better roster yet he regularly gets whipped by shitty teams led by HOFers like Bortles and Tebow.

BB takes a bunch of retreads and dominates.

[Professor Half Wit]

Is Tomlin half as good as Belichick?

The standard is the standard. I've never seen Tomlin beat a better roster yet he regularly gets whipped by shitty teams led by HOFers like Bortles and Tebow.

BB takes a bunch of retreads and dominates.

I don’t know the coaching good Tomlin has in proportion to BB, but your argument would carry a lot more weight by showing how bad Tomlin is compared to the next best coach in the league. BB is such an outlier that everyone looks bad in toto.

But I suspect we’ll have a hard time coming to a consensus on the number two. I suspect Tomlin, at least in terms of wins, probably belongs in the convo for who the number two is. This is hard to see when BB is mentioned bc BB routinely uses Tomlin as a speed bump.

Be gentle with me. Those of superior intelligence do the world much good by teaching the truth to those who lack enough reason to arrive at the truth themselves, but who do have enough reason to learn it from those who do.

[Minkah'n Big Plays]

I think this is where I'm at.....Tomlin lost the lottery when Ben got hurt. Then he won the WSOP with a great, if not unusual, run of cards.

But at the end of the day he's still just a garage poker player....with better shades than Chris Moneymaker.

Hey, he made a sick bluff on Farha heads up.

Gotta have balls playing poker, and that week CM came to play. Yes, he really hasn't done much since 2003, lol.

[Steelafan77]

For me the bottom line is this.... non-losing season is fine. It tells a story of being competitive and having to pick in the mid-high to high RND of the draft. It also tells a story of the great Championship drought. Being one and done in the postseason....

So, while folks get excited over mediocrity I still have that 'Fanatic Hunger' for another Championship(s). You know, since the Steelers are so competitive to not have a losing season in 13 years?!