Which QB to Draft for the Steelers: A Poll

[Roeth2Rudolph]

Trubisky could work. I could get behind that for the right price.

[JackLambert58]

Trubisky could work. I could get behind that for the right price.

Fuck that! He's another Tomczak.

[Baltostiller]

You're all wrong. Ben is coming back next year. Write it down and call me on it.

[RemoAZ]

You're all wrong. Ben is coming back next year. Write it down and call me on it.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Ben come back, they draft the Levis kid in the middle rounds and they bring Trubisky in to compete for the backup spot. None of that would be a stretch. Even if Ben comes back for another year, they can't be sold on the backup situation the way it currently is and more importantly, for the future.

[Roeth2Rudolph]

Nah, he's done after this year win lose or draw. Rudolph is the #1 for 2022 as we sit here now, but I bet they sign a Trubisky type to compete with him in camp.

[bradshaw2ben]

You're all wrong. Ben is coming back next year. Write it down and call me on it.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Ben come back, they draft the Levis kid in the middle rounds and they bring Trubisky in to compete for the backup spot. None of that would be a stretch. Even if Ben comes back for another year, they can't be sold on the backup situation the way it currently is and more importantly, for the future.

I could live with that, especially if they use Levis in a Slash/Taysom Hill kind of role.

[Orangesteel]

It’s just a crime and so goddamn stupid that they have held on to Mason this long.

We should have went after a veteran QB years ago. It would have helped us the year Ben was out and probably would have resulted in a W last Sunday.

But no, the talent evaluation for the QB position with this coaching staff is abysmal and lazy. But hey, they had a first round grade on Mason! Idiots.

Edit: oh, and let me ask you Tomlin, how’s that reclamation project going with Haskins??? Sounds like very well. If you can peel him away from his cell phone for 3 minutes to study the playbook.

[Charles Demarr]

IF Ben isnt our QB next season, I have this uneasy feeling that our QB next year will be none other than Mitch Trubisky.

I'm not sure that I hate that either.

[jebrick]

@bradshaw2ben has me buying in on Levis. Especially if he could fulfill a Slash or Weapon X like role for his first season in the offense. He shouldn’t need to be a franchise guy right away, but get him 20 plays a game, a mix of rushes and passes.

He’s a QB, so its fine for him to slide and avoid hits, but he shouldn’t be afraid of or adverse to contact.

If he can eventually take over as the starter, QB2 should always be a proven alternative. Understanding that a quarterback who plays like a linebacker could miss more time than traditional signal callers.

There is little reason for Levis to come out this season and be a 3rd round pick when he can spend another year and be a 1st round pick.

[Roeth2Rudolph]

It’s just a crime and so goddamn stupid that they have held on to Mason this long.

We should have went after a veteran QB years ago. It would have helped us the year Ben was out and probably would have resulted in a W last Sunday.

Yeah, maybe he could have thrown passes to himself and not fumbled the game away, twice.

[Ice]

@bradshaw2ben has me buying in on Levis. Especially if he could fulfill a Slash or Weapon X like role for his first season in the offense. He shouldn’t need to be a franchise guy right away, but get him 20 plays a game, a mix of rushes and passes.

He’s a QB, so its fine for him to slide and avoid hits, but he shouldn’t be afraid of or adverse to contact.

If he can eventually take over as the starter, QB2 should always be a proven alternative. Understanding that a quarterback who plays like a linebacker could miss more time than traditional signal callers.

There is little reason for Levis to come out this season and be a 3rd round pick when he can spend another year and be a 1st round pick.

The other school of thought on this would involve a deeper dive into who's returning for UK next year, etc., but in the SEC (or any power conference, really), a QB from a middle of the pack team can start to look real bad, fast. Is it possible Levis, his family, his agent may feel this year might be the high water mark for him?

[bradshaw2ben]

@bradshaw2ben has me buying in on Levis. Especially if he could fulfill a Slash or Weapon X like role for his first season in the offense. He shouldn’t need to be a franchise guy right away, but get him 20 plays a game, a mix of rushes and passes.

He’s a QB, so its fine for him to slide and avoid hits, but he shouldn’t be afraid of or adverse to contact.

If he can eventually take over as the starter, QB2 should always be a proven alternative. Understanding that a quarterback who plays like a linebacker could miss more time than traditional signal callers.

There is little reason for Levis to come out this season and be a 3rd round pick when he can spend another year and be a 1st round pick.

The other school of thought on this would involve a deeper dive into who's returning for UK next year, etc., but in the SEC (or any power conference, really), a QB from a middle of the pack team can start to look real bad, fast. Is it possible Levis, his family, his agent may feel this year might be the high water mark for him?

It really depends who comes out and who doesn't. If the hot underclassmen like McCall go back, next year Levis could face some stiff competition for draft status. If this year's candidates are less exciting, he might find a good landing spot. But the best reason by far for him to come out is: he's not going to get better playing for that team and in that system than he would developing on a pro roster.

[jebrick]

There is little reason for Levis to come out this season and be a 3rd round pick when he can spend another year and be a 1st round pick.

The other school of thought on this would involve a deeper dive into who's returning for UK next year, etc., but in the SEC (or any power conference, really), a QB from a middle of the pack team can start to look real bad, fast. Is it possible Levis, his family, his agent may feel this year might be the high water mark for him?

If he has an agent then he is already leaving Does anyone think it is his high water mark?

If I were his dad, I would take an insurance policy out for injury and gamble that he is in for a much better payout. Currently, he would be the 7th best QB in this draft. Perhaps that puts him in the 3rd round or perhaps not. In 2023 he might be competing with Young and Stroud for #1 pick but he would still be a 1st round pick with even some improvement.

If he does not come out then the Steelers should be riding Rudolph to that top 10 pick and get a real good QB and not one of these day 2+ wonders

[Ice]

Yeah, kid is actually in kind of an interesting position, from a "should he or shouldn't he?" perspective.

[RemoAZ]

You're all wrong. Ben is coming back next year. Write it down and call me on it.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Ben come back, they draft the Levis kid in the middle rounds and they bring Trubisky in to compete for the backup spot. None of that would be a stretch. Even if Ben comes back for another year, they can't be sold on the backup situation the way it currently is and more importantly, for the future.

I could live with that, especially if they use Levis in a Slash/Taysom Hill kind of role.

This team could sure as hell could use a slash type player to help the running game and converting short yardage.

[bradshaw2ben]

@jebrick I think you have to look at it as: They can't pick just add QB in the next 2 years. Pick a day 2-3er this year and still go after a bigger fish in 2023 0r 2024. Or both. They need 3 guys who either can play acceptable starter ball or have upside to be more than that. They have 39-year old Ben right now, and that's it.

A bigger issue is: they are quickly becoming a thin team with older stars, and not just at QB.

[jebrick]

@jebrick I think you have to look at it as: They can't pick just add QB in the next 2 years. Pick a day 2-3er this year and still go after a bigger fish in 2023 0r 2024. Or both. They need 3 guys who either can play acceptable starter ball or have upside to be more than that. They have 39-year old Ben right now, and that's it.

A bigger issue is: they are quickly becoming a thin team with older stars, and not just at QB.

Which is why I voted for Cole Kelly in the 5th round. This is shit year for QB. Next year will be pretty good. Get someone with minimal issues later and restock the team this draft and look at Qbs in 2023 draft.

[SteelerDayTrader]

I like the idea of drafting a QB 5th or later and hoping Ben comes back but if he doesn’t riding the Rudolph train to a top pick in 2023

1 WILB
2 SS
3 WR
3 DL
5 QB
7 RT/RG
7 RB

Could help a lot. Particularly if Norwood shows he can play and you let Fitzpatrick walk

[Aussie_steeler]

Cleanout the Qb room.

Bring in a free agent Qb for 2 years and draft a mid round QB if no legit 1st rounder is there. I cannot see a franchise player this draft.

Brennan Armstrong Virginia in the 3rd for me.

I can see the wisdom here; and by the way, if both QBs are ready to go, the UVA/Pitt game this weekend should be a live one. Confession: I voted for the Pitt guy in the poll. Go Panthers!

We get limited games here in Oz. Have seen mostly ACC games with a lot of Hartman, Armstrong, Howell. Also seen a few games of Corral & Nix as well but not much of Pickett.

In my downunder perspective the more I watch Armstrong the more I see a bit of Steve Young. I may be very wrong but I think he will have a job in the big league.

Hope I get to see the Pitt Virginia game.

[Fpuntlin]

I like the idea of never reaching for a QB.

Trubisky would be an interesting idea. I don't think there will be any shortage of those types of reclamation projects with minimal draft/cap capital. That's the way to go. See if a guy with NFL talent can be serviceable or better on a new team, until you have a shot at that franchise QB in the draft.

Sucking for a top-10 pick is no guarantee of landing a franchise QB. That's how you become the Browns.

There's also the angle that if you believe Tomlin will finally be fired or retired soon, then you really don't want to spend a premium pick on QB until you have that new HC in place.

This team has struggled to develop DB's. WR since Mann retired. OL since before and after Munchak. Possibly RB. The offensive IQ of this coaching staff is abysmal. Even if you got the right QB in the draft, they'll screw him up.

[bradshaw2ben]

Cleanout the Qb room.

Bring in a free agent Qb for 2 years and draft a mid round QB if no legit 1st rounder is there. I cannot see a franchise player this draft.

Brennan Armstrong Virginia in the 3rd for me.

I can see the wisdom here; and by the way, if both QBs are ready to go, the UVA/Pitt game this weekend should be a live one. Confession: I voted for the Pitt guy in the poll. Go Panthers!

We get limited games here in Oz. Have seen mostly ACC games with a lot of Hartman, Armstrong, Howell. Also seen a few games of Corral & Nix as well but not much of Pickett.

In my downunder perspective the more I watch Armstrong the more I see a bit of Steve Young. I may be very wrong but I think he will have a job in the big league.

Hope I get to see the Pitt Virginia game.

His throwing motion and footwork once seen can't be unseen. He appears to have to put his whole body into the throw to get any velocity and his feet aren't in a solid base. On the move? Running? All pretty fun.

[bradshaw2ben]

Cleanout the Qb room.

Bring in a free agent Qb for 2 years and draft a mid round QB if no legit 1st rounder is there. I cannot see a franchise player this draft.

Brennan Armstrong Virginia in the 3rd for me.

I can see the wisdom here; and by the way, if both QBs are ready to go, the UVA/Pitt game this weekend should be a live one. Confession: I voted for the Pitt guy in the poll. Go Panthers!

We get limited games here in Oz. Have seen mostly ACC games with a lot of Hartman, Armstrong, Howell. Also seen a few games of Corral & Nix as well but not much of Pickett.

In my downunder perspective the more I watch Armstrong the more I see a bit of Steve Young. I may be very wrong but I think he will have a job in the big league.

Hope I get to see the Pitt Virginia game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBSK1v1kcl8

[cop1211]

None. They need to fill out the roster in this draft and FA period and ride Mason Rudolph for a year. That should get them in position to get a real QB in the 2023 draft.

I'm on this train.

[anpsteel]

None. They need to fill out the roster in this draft and FA period and ride Mason Rudolph for a year. That should get them in position to get a real QB in the 2023 draft.

For accuracy

This upcoming draft should consist of BPA: ILB, OL, FS, CB, in no particular order accept if there is a legit 3 down ILB available in the 1st, make the move.

[Roeth2Rudolph]

We need a burner WR in a major way. That would be as high on my priority list as anything.

[K_C_]

We need a burner WR in a major way. That would be as high on my priority list as anything.

If we're picking in the 20's, I 100% agree.

[K_C_]

This team just needs so much.

I could see a D-lineman being taken with our first pick.

I could see us taking a WR.

I could see us taking a corner.

The smartest bet might be to admit the Devin Bush trade was a massive mistake and to fix that with a first round ILB.

We obviously still need help on the o-line.

But I don't see us in a position to take a day one starting QB and absolutely no QB in this draft looks like anything approaching a sure thing.

[Roeth2Rudolph]

This team just needs so much.

I could see a D-lineman being taken with our first pick.

I could see us taking a WR.

I could see us taking a corner.

The smartest bet might be to admit the Devin Bush trade was a massive mistake and to fix that with a first round ILB.

We obviously still need help on the o-line.

But I don't see us in a position to take a day one starting QB and absolutely no QB in this draft looks like anything approaching a sure thing.

Yeah we have a lotta holes no doubt. My thinking is if could just fix the offense we'd be good enough to win. Gotta be able to score 30 consistently in todays game, and a burner dragging coverage downfield would fix a lot of problems.

[StillerDownSouth]

If I were running the show, I would suggest to Ben he should go ahead and retire (probably won't have to suggest it, I think he retires no matter what), I would try to trade Rudolf for anything, if no takers then I would cut him, I would also cut Haskins and that would be that. I would then sign 2 veteran quarterbacks unless I could trade for Watson or Wilson, which would be highly unlikely, then I would draft a developmental QB in the later rounds. I would use high picks on a true LT, DL, and ILB, as for the rest of the draft I would try to find another good blocking TE and some secondary help. I would resign Edmonds on a 1 or 2 year deal only, just because we have so many holes to fill, can't fill them all. I would sign a proven offensive lineman and a proven corner via free agency. I would wait on drafting a QB in first round until 2023 draft, all of the QB's coming out this year have question marks.

[StillerDownSouth]

This team just needs so much.

I could see a D-lineman being taken with our first pick.

I could see us taking a WR.

I could see us taking a corner.

The smartest bet might be to admit the Devin Bush trade was a massive mistake and to fix that with a first round ILB.

We obviously still need help on the o-line.

But I don't see us in a position to take a day one starting QB and absolutely no QB in this draft looks like anything approaching a sure thing.

Yeah we have a lotta holes no doubt. My thinking is if could just fix the offense we'd be good enough to win. Gotta be able to score 30 consistently in todays game, and a burner dragging coverage downfield would fix a lot of problems.

Then you for sure should want to jettison Mason, pretty sure he's never led this offense to 30 points in a game ever in like 12 starts.