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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:40 am

Jesus unless they turn it over we're fucked. Can't even slow them down.


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Post by Kodiak. » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:40 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:37 am
Considering he’s throw several deep balls on the money, I have my opinion on it. I find he often tries to make sure his guy has a play, rather than overthrow it. For years now.
It was a bad throw. Turned Claypool around, but he's playing very well.

The whining bitching when Ben isn't absolutely perfect on every throw has gotten beyond tiresome. Hard to believe so-called fans want him to fail just so they can say "told you so".
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:40 am

Well they held up.
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Post by stillcajun » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:40 am

Karl Joseph sighting!

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Post by tbsteel » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:37 am
JackLambert58 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:19 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:19 am
I get that Ben was trying to be a bit careful with that deep ball to 11 but the underthrow cost us points.
Was it caution or can he not put it on the money anymore?
Considering he’s throw several deep balls on the money, I have my opinion on it. I find he often tries to make sure his guy has a play, rather than overthrow it. For years now.
That is all it was.

Claypool was open and he was making sure he didn't overthrow it and that they still got a big play out of it.

Claypool didn't have to stumble over himself though. The playcalling the next 3 plays was atrocious.
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Post by Steel Bingo » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am

Defense forced Herbert to throw before he wanted to a number of times on that drive.

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Post by Flanker » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:39 am
Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:38 am
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:35 am


His momentum was going one way. He had to slam on the breaks and get back to the ball. He wasn't scoring on that play no matter what.

It was a bad throw. Plain and simple and it could end up being huge when this game is over.
No way Macy underthrows a ball... EVER!
That was a bad throw and a massively costly one no matter the QB.
It didn't massively cost us anything... I'm pretty sure an incompletion or interception is worse.

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Post by El Kabong » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:42 am

Steel Bingo wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am
Defense forced Herbert to throw before he wanted to a number of times on that drive.
We're going to need a lot more of that.
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Post by COR-TEN » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am

All things considered, 17- 10 at the half isn't bad.

They sure as shit have to adjust, though.
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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am

Well at least we have Tomlin adjustments to look forward to in the 2nd half.
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Post by JackLambert58 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am

Kodiak. wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:40 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:37 am
Considering he’s throw several deep balls on the money, I have my opinion on it. I find he often tries to make sure his guy has a play, rather than overthrow it. For years now.
It was a bad throw. Turned Claypool around, but he's playing very well.

The whining bitching when Ben isn't absolutely perfect on every throw has gotten beyond tiresome. Hard to believe so-called fans want him to fail just so they can say "told you so".
Who here wants Ben to fail?
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Post by Kodiak. » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am

Before the game, EVERYONE would have taken 10-17 with Ben playing well at half. We're in a game most thought we'd get the doors blown off.

I just hope they can figure out who's calling plays for LAC.
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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am

no more FG for the steelers in the second half peroid

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am

Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:39 am
Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:38 am


No way Macy underthrows a ball... EVER!
That was a bad throw and a massively costly one no matter the QB.
It didn't massively cost us anything... I'm pretty sure an incompletion or interception is worse.
I won't even bother to call you stupid.

It cost the Steelers a TD. They got ZERO POINTS on that drive and the Chargers responded to that GIGANTIC FAILURE by going 98 yards for touchdown.

:lol:

So yeah, it didn't cost the team anything.

:lol:
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Post by Roeth2Rudolph » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:44 am

Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:39 am
Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:38 am


No way Macy underthrows a ball... EVER!
That was a bad throw and a massively costly one no matter the QB.
It didn't massively cost us anything... I'm pretty sure an incompletion or interception is worse.
Oh it cost us four points, make no mistake about it. Zero doubt that's a TD had Mason been the QB.

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:44 am

JackLambert58 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am
Kodiak. wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:40 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:37 am
Considering he’s throw several deep balls on the money, I have my opinion on it. I find he often tries to make sure his guy has a play, rather than overthrow it. For years now.
It was a bad throw. Turned Claypool around, but he's playing very well.

The whining bitching when Ben isn't absolutely perfect on every throw has gotten beyond tiresome. Hard to believe so-called fans want him to fail just so they can say "told you so".
Who here wants Ben to fail?
Nobody, but watching the butthurt is hilarious.
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Post by AirRescueFF » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:44 am

They're gonna run them ragged after the kickoff.
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Post by franco32 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:44 am

Ben isn't going to matter very much if the D is not even capable of being a speed bump. Very little pressure. Gaping holes on runs. Guys wide open all night.

Missing TJ, Haden, and Minkah is a killer.

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:44 am

Roeth2Rudolph wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:44 am
Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:39 am


That was a bad throw and a massively costly one no matter the QB.
It didn't massively cost us anything... I'm pretty sure an incompletion or interception is worse.
Oh it cost us four points, make no mistake about it. Zero doubt that's a TD had Mason been the QB.
We didn't get ANY points on that drive.

It was literally a 14 points swing when the Chargers went 98 yards in response.
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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:45 am

tbsteel wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:37 am
JackLambert58 wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:19 am


Was it caution or can he not put it on the money anymore?
Considering he’s throw several deep balls on the money, I have my opinion on it. I find he often tries to make sure his guy has a play, rather than overthrow it. For years now.
That is all it was.

Claypool was open and he was making sure he didn't overthrow it and that they still got a big play out of it.

Claypool didn't have to stumble over himself though. The playcalling the next 3 plays was atrocious.
He overthrew him the time before. Played it safe since he was so wide open. No issues with that. They still need to be able to punch it in from there to beat a good team.
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Post by El Kabong » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:45 am

Roeth2Rudolph wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:44 am
Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:39 am


That was a bad throw and a massively costly one no matter the QB.
It didn't massively cost us anything... I'm pretty sure an incompletion or interception is worse.
Oh it cost us four points, make no mistake about it. Zero doubt that's a TD had Mason been the QB.
Yes there is doubt about that. There's plenty of doubt about that.
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Post by Kodiak. » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:45 am

Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am
It didn't massively cost us anything... I'm pretty sure an incompletion or interception is worse.
It's at least 3 points, but they made the right decision to go for it.

What's crystal clear is that Canada - and he's called a great game save ONE play - comes up with the most horrendous plays when it really matters.
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Post by Roeth2Rudolph » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:46 am

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:44 am
Roeth2Rudolph wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:44 am
Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am

It didn't massively cost us anything... I'm pretty sure an incompletion or interception is worse.
Oh it cost us four points, make no mistake about it. Zero doubt that's a TD had Mason been the QB.
We didn't get ANY points on that drive.

It was literally a 14 points swing when the Chargers went 98 yards in response.
Oh yeah. Jesus

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Post by JJT07 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:46 am

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am
Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:39 am


That was a bad throw and a massively costly one no matter the QB.
It didn't massively cost us anything... I'm pretty sure an incompletion or interception is worse.
I won't even bother to call you stupid.

It cost the Steelers a TD. They got ZERO POINTS on that drive and the Chargers responded to that GIGANTIC FAILURE by going 98 yards for touchdown.

:lol:

So yeah, it didn't cost the team anything.

:lol:

To be fair, if we weren't the dumbest most inept team at 1st and goal from the 5, this argument is probably not even happening.

I agree, it was underthrown, but we have to punch it in there, and I don't think the goal to go sequence was on Ben.

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:46 am

Kodiak. wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am
Before the game, EVERYONE would have taken 10-17 with Ben playing well at half. We're in a game most thought we'd get the doors blown off.

I just hope they can figure out who's calling plays for LAC.
The offense wasn’t magically going to start putting up 30+ burgers. Hell, even getting 20+ would be surprising.

With this many injuries on defense, a victory would be damn impressive.
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Post by Flanker » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:46 am

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am
Flanker wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:41 am
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:39 am


That was a bad throw and a massively costly one no matter the QB.
It didn't massively cost us anything... I'm pretty sure an incompletion or interception is worse.
I won't even bother to call you stupid.

It cost the Steelers a TD. They got ZERO POINTS on that drive and the Chargers responded to that GIGANTIC FAILURE by going 98 yards for touchdown.

:lol:

So yeah, it didn't cost the team anything.

:lol:
Would you bother to call me stupid if I stood on a box and advocated for Mason fucking Rudolph over Ben for weeks on end?... I would. :lol:

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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:46 am

Kodiak. wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am
Before the game, EVERYONE would have taken 10-17 with Ben playing well at half. We're in a game most thought we'd get the doors blown off.

I just hope they can figure out who's calling plays for LAC.
Total agree

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:46 am

Ben has some magic left for the second half.

Defense just needs to sell out on the rush. Nothing to lose…what’s the worst that could happen they score on every drive and go through us like a hot knife through butter?

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:47 am

Kodiak. wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:43 am
Before the game, EVERYONE would have taken 10-17 with Ben playing well at half. We're in a game most thought we'd get the doors blown off.

I just hope they can figure out who's calling plays for LAC.
Ben is playing well, but we are going to need a lot more than 10 points per half to win this one.

The offense looked pretty good and Ben looked good outside of that massive fuck up under throw to Claypool.

This simply is a game where we cannot have fuck ups like that and we're going to need AT LEAST 3 TD's in the second half.
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Post by drmalba » Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:47 am

We literally have half of our practice squad starting on Defense tonight and we're down one TD. We're moving the ball consistently well on offense. Things could be much, much worse.

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