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Post by steelmann58 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 4:03 am

If this Steelers team come out flat and lays an egg this team will total piss me off, I hope they leave Canada home because this should be the Gunslinger game to let it all hang out.



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Post by Jizz Mop » Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:03 pm

They may lays an egg and if they does, it may not be all Canada’s faults.

It could be a total teams efforts to lays an eggs in Ben’s last home games.

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Post by K_C_ » Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:24 pm

Ben should have, LONG AGO when this season began falling apart, he should have insisted on calling his own plays.

End of story.

What was Cool Shades going to do, bench Roethlisberger?
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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:04 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:24 pm
Ben should have, LONG AGO when this season began falling apart, he should have insisted on calling his own plays.

End of story.

What was Cool Shades going to do, bench Roethlisberger?
How do we know he doesn't like what is called. I find it hard to believe that Ben is going to just go along with this bullshit offense, which by the way looks very similar to last year, being that this is his last year of playing.

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Post by K_C_ » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:08 pm

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:04 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:24 pm
Ben should have, LONG AGO when this season began falling apart, he should have insisted on calling his own plays.

End of story.

What was Cool Shades going to do, bench Roethlisberger?
How do we know he doesn't like what is called. I find it hard to believe that Ben is going to just go along with this bullshit offense, which by the way looks very similar to last year, being that this is his last year of playing.
Ben's made some comments, his usual passive aggressive lines, about the play calling this year. Didn't he even go as far as to say the Steelers didn't even have a 2 minute offense or some similar kind of comment?

Ben has been a good solider, to a fault and it's cost him. Manning, Brady and other future Hall of Famers would have told Cool Shades to blow them had they been given this offense to run.
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Post by langer » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:14 pm

Maybe Ben is contractually prohibited from criticizing management.

The entire management layer of the Steelers is really bad.
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Post by Texas Black & Gold » Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:28 pm

langer wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:14 pm
Maybe Ben is contractually prohibited from criticizing management.

The entire management layer of the Steelers is really bad.
Whether that part is true or not, I certainly appreciate that if he does criticize, it is not public. This team doesn't need anymore drama.
Maybe it is an indication of professionalism not to be publicly critical of the guy that signs your paycheck.
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Post by BethlehemSteel » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:12 pm

Ben kinda explained in his presser yesterday that all he wants to do is win the game and not dwell on the situation

But he did explain that Rooney didn’t offer to extend him past this year by choice. He’s essentially a free agent come next week

Rooney’s are fastly becoming a disaster due bistro man being a potted plant owner
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Post by RemoAZ » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:13 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:08 pm
Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:04 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 1:24 pm
Ben should have, LONG AGO when this season began falling apart, he should have insisted on calling his own plays.

End of story.

What was Cool Shades going to do, bench Roethlisberger?
How do we know he doesn't like what is called. I find it hard to believe that Ben is going to just go along with this bullshit offense, which by the way looks very similar to last year, being that this is his last year of playing.
Ben's made some comments, his usual passive aggressive lines, about the play calling this year. Didn't he even go as far as to say the Steelers didn't even have a 2 minute offense or some similar kind of comment?

Ben has been a good solider, to a fault and it's cost him. Manning, Brady and other future Hall of Famers would have told Cool Shades to blow them had they been given this offense to run.
He's never had that take charge personality unfortunately. I don't expect him to be any different Monday. He'll run what's called even when it's continually not working.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:17 pm

I hope years from now Ben authors a book titled “I played for a dumbass.”

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Post by Kodiak. » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:20 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:08 pm
Ben has been a good solider, to a fault and it's cost him.
Maybe. Or could be hubris - Ben has a lot of Uncle Rico in him.

Or maybe he did complain to Colbert/Rooney and it fell on deaf ears. Then your choices are to bend over and take it, retire or wait for FA to go to another team (assuming PIT doesn't tag you twice). Not great options.

Ben is done in PIT, and by most accounts they didn't want him back this year (seems they were more interested in going 4-13 with Rudolph). But if SF or DEN come calling, I don't think he's retiring...Notably hasn't said he's retiring, just "probably last game in Heinz". And I'm guessing when he said that he wasn't leaving the door open for a home playoff game.
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Post by Kodiak. » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:20 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:17 pm
I hope years from now Ben authors a book titled “I played for a dumbass.”
And the follow-up "Why Goodell is a turd"
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Post by Steeldrama » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:38 pm

If I woke up this morning with my head sewn to the carpet I wouldn’t be more surprised to see Ben Roethlisberger wearing another team’s jersey or writing tell all books or doing anything other than living the lake life with his family here in the rich mans playground that is Georgia
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Post by langer » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:40 pm

Potential titles for Ben's book:

Playing Through Pain and Broken Noses, Lessons in Leadership

How to Win With Idiots, by Ben Roethlisberger

Short Wide Receivers are a Pain in the Ass

Running for Your Life in Your Thirties, and Succeeding

Winning Through Adversity, and Lack of a Coherent Strategy

The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success: A Practical Guide to Ignoring Idiot Offensive Coordinators

Winning with Passive Aggressiveness

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Post by langer » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:42 pm

I can see Ben pulling a Carson Palmer or Kurt Warner and making a few more millions for not practicing and playing 17 Sundays for a few hours.
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Post by Steeldrama » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:48 pm

langer wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:42 pm
I can see Ben pulling a Carson Palmer or Kurt Warner and making a few more millions for not practicing and playing 17 Sundays for a few hours.
He’s going to retire and you’re never going to hear from him again….
…Unless you live here in Georgia and your son plays on the same little league team.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:49 pm

langer wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:40 pm
Potential titles for Ben's book:

Playing Through Pain and Broken Noses, Lessons in Leadership

How to Win With Idiots, by Ben Roethlisberger

Short Wide Receivers are a Pain in the Ass

Running for Your Life in Your Thirties, and Succeeding

Winning Through Adversity, and Lack of a Coherent Strategy

The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success: A Practical Guide to Ignoring Idiot Offensive Coordinators

Winning with Passive Aggressiveness

How Not To Ride a 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa
How Not to Hookup by Ben Roethlisberger
How to Make a One Night Stand Last Longer than One Night BT Ben Roethlisberger

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:51 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:48 pm
langer wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:42 pm
I can see Ben pulling a Carson Palmer or Kurt Warner and making a few more millions for not practicing and playing 17 Sundays for a few hours.
He’s going to retire and you’re never going to hear from him again….
…Unless you live here in Georgia and your son plays on the same little league team.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:52 pm

langer wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:40 pm
Potential titles for Ben's book:

Playing Through Pain and Broken Noses, Lessons in Leadership

How to Win With Idiots, by Ben Roethlisberger

Short Wide Receivers are a Pain in the Ass

Running for Your Life in Your Thirties, and Succeeding

Winning Through Adversity, and Lack of a Coherent Strategy

The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success: A Practical Guide to Ignoring Idiot Offensive Coordinators

Winning with Passive Aggressiveness

How Not To Ride a 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa
Good stuff

I’d read any and all of them

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Post by Texas Black & Gold » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:10 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:51 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:48 pm
langer wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:42 pm
I can see Ben pulling a Carson Palmer or Kurt Warner and making a few more millions for not practicing and playing 17 Sundays for a few hours.
He’s going to retire and you’re never going to hear from him again….
…Unless you live here in Georgia and your son plays on the same little league team.
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We will definitely here from Ben at least one more time again. His Hall of Fame acceptance speech. ;)
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Post by K_C_ » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:22 pm

Kodiak. wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:20 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:08 pm
Ben has been a good solider, to a fault and it's cost him.
Maybe. Or could be hubris - Ben has a lot of Uncle Rico in him.

Or maybe he did complain to Colbert/Rooney and it fell on deaf ears. Then your choices are to bend over and take it, retire or wait for FA to go to another team (assuming PIT doesn't tag you twice). Not great options.

Ben is done in PIT, and by most accounts they didn't want him back this year (seems they were more interested in going 4-13 with Rudolph). But if SF or DEN come calling, I don't think he's retiring...Notably hasn't said he's retiring, just "probably last game in Heinz". And I'm guessing when he said that he wasn't leaving the door open for a home playoff game.
I already have a bet going that Ben is retiring but I'd happily make another one.

He's done.

....and right now, draft position-wise, I'd have taken the 4-13 with Rudolph.

Glad Ben came back for one final go 'round but it didn't go anywhere near as well as any of us wanted it to.
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Post by Texas Black & Gold » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:28 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:22 pm
Kodiak. wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:20 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:08 pm
Ben has been a good solider, to a fault and it's cost him.
Maybe. Or could be hubris - Ben has a lot of Uncle Rico in him.

Or maybe he did complain to Colbert/Rooney and it fell on deaf ears. Then your choices are to bend over and take it, retire or wait for FA to go to another team (assuming PIT doesn't tag you twice). Not great options.

Ben is done in PIT, and by most accounts they didn't want him back this year (seems they were more interested in going 4-13 with Rudolph). But if SF or DEN come calling, I don't think he's retiring...Notably hasn't said he's retiring, just "probably last game in Heinz". And I'm guessing when he said that he wasn't leaving the door open for a home playoff game.
I already have a bet going that Ben is retiring but I'd happily make another one.

He's done.

....and right now, draft position-wise, I'd have taken the 4-13 with Rudolph.

Glad Ben came back for one final go 'round but it didn't go anywhere near as well as any of us wanted it to.
It's not over yet but it has been more of a struggle than I imagined it would be at the beginning of the year. :(
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Post by 955876 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:28 pm

Ben has been a good solider, to a fault and it's cost him. Manning, Brady and other future Hall of Famers would have told Cool Shades to blow them had they been given this offense to run.
This.

Ben certainly isn’t free of blame and has been part of the problem. Either by agreeing with what is being run or by being complicit to the garbage offense.

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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:16 pm

If Cleveland passes more than 5 times, Stefanski should be fired. Cleveland can possibly break the all time record of 404 yards in a game. Unless Ben plays out of his mind for 4 quarters, this might be one of the most embarrassing losses to the Browns. And I did sit through 51-0.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:27 pm

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:16 pm
If Cleveland passes more than 5 times, Stefanski should be fired. Cleveland can possibly break the all time record of 404 yards in a game. Unless Ben plays out of his mind for 4 quarters, this might be one of the most embarrassing losses to the Browns. And I did sit through 51-0.
Agree 100%

They could run it every play and we’d lose handily

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Post by rocky mtn stiller » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:28 pm

langer wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:40 pm
Potential titles for Ben's book:

Playing Through Pain and Broken Noses, Lessons in Leadership

How to Win With Idiots, by Ben Roethlisberger

Short Wide Receivers are a Pain in the Ass

Running for Your Life in Your Thirties, and Succeeding

Winning Through Adversity, and Lack of a Coherent Strategy

The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success: A Practical Guide to Ignoring Idiot Offensive Coordinators

Winning with Passive Aggressiveness

How Not To Ride a 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa
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Post by 955876 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:59 pm

It’s a shame that Benji still needs 7 TDs to pass Rivers.

Pathetic in todays NFL he has gone two weeks without a TD pass.

Or wait, he got 1?

Needs 6 now?

Fucking get it done.

Look for that cunt Tomlin to give it to Najee every chance he gets in the RZ.

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Post by Texas Black & Gold » Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:11 pm

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:16 pm
If Cleveland passes more than 5 times, Stefanski should be fired. Cleveland can possibly break the all time record of 404 yards in a game. Unless Ben plays out of his mind for 4 quarters, this might be one of the most embarrassing losses to the Browns. And I did sit through 51-0.
Either of the last two games from last season was pretty brutal. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:45 pm

Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:11 pm
Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 7:16 pm
If Cleveland passes more than 5 times, Stefanski should be fired. Cleveland can possibly break the all time record of 404 yards in a game. Unless Ben plays out of his mind for 4 quarters, this might be one of the most embarrassing losses to the Browns. And I did sit through 51-0.
Either of the last two games from last season was pretty brutal. :oops: :oops: :oops:
51-0 was the worse thing I ever witnessed.

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