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Kenny Pickett is the Best QB on the Team

Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:42 am

From what I saw of Kenny Pickett tonight, he is the best QB on the team and I would focus all energy on starting him in week 1. It is inevitable he will be starting this year. Get over with it now.

Has command of the offense…seems to know the playbook, motions, ordering people around!

Brought an X factor energy to the stadium and the fans.

Has more speed back to the LOS than 10 and 2 on the wheel.

Throws passes crisply and nobody misses strides, even with the scrubs.

Scrambles for real…not scrambling because the defense forgot about the QB, which is all Mitch and Mason can do.

Sees the field like a veteran as both QB and a runner!

Start him! Best QB on the team by a sizable margin!



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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:53 am

QB Kenny Pickett produced a 132.6 passer rating in his preseason debut - higher than any other rookie in the last 30 years (min. 10 pass attempts).

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Post by franco32 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:08 am

I was very impressed. His toughness, accuracy, and poise were excellent. There is reason to be optimistic.

But, one step at a time. Let's see him get more 2nd team snaps and take it from there. I'd like to see him with better talent around him stretching the field and seeing what he can do with his deep ball.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:34 am

The Steelers first games are

@Bengals
Cheats
@Browns
Jets
@Bills
Bucs
@Dolphins
@Eagles

And then the bye

The Steelers could be 0-8. I think 3-5 would be the absolute best they could hope for.

Maybe put Kenny in after the season is destroyed then the pressure is off
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Post by stillthere » Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:21 am

They could just as easily be 6-2 heading into the bye week.
Cinci has had 1 good season in the last 30 years maybe 2 good seasons. (When is the last time they played a first place schedule????)
Patriots are a long way from where they were a few short years ago.
Browns are going to be bad (What's new?)
Jets are going to be bad (Again, what's new?)
Bills have a good team and they seem to struggle against the Steelers even when they should not.
Bucs could be good or not they have talented parts but we will see
Miami hasn't proven shit and Flores may have a welcome back to being in the stadium gift for Ross the owner.
Iggles??? giant question mark as to what they are going to be.
Bye week

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Post by Kodiak. » Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:45 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:53 am
QB Kenny Pickett produced a 132.6 passer rating in his preseason debut - higher than any other rookie in the last 30 years (min. 10 pass attempts).
I think it's unusual for a #1 pick to be playing against grocery baggers in preseason #1.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:43 am

Kodiak. wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:45 am
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:53 am
QB Kenny Pickett produced a 132.6 passer rating in his preseason debut - higher than any other rookie in the last 30 years (min. 10 pass attempts).
I think it's unusual for a #1 pick to be playing against grocery baggers in preseason #1.
If you try to compete for a Super Bowl every year and not mortgage the organization, the Steelers would get a decent grade with the off-season moves at QB by most objective football analysts. Was happy with the #10 move, and was happy with getting Pickett….and I even understand keeping #2 around.

Now I am getting antsy with the Mason Rudolph situation…eating valuable prep snaps from KP. Hopefully #2 is off to the Jets this week, and we can get down the real business of the QB.

The grocery baggers had a few mistakes that could have caused injury too; the missed pass pro block by #40 comes to mind that led to an awkward sackle!

I think most of the national media is going to be driving a different narrative about the Steeler QB situation this week! Something along the lines of “It’s getting HOT in the Steelers’ QB kitchen!”

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:53 am

Kodiak. wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:45 am
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:53 am
QB Kenny Pickett produced a 132.6 passer rating in his preseason debut - higher than any other rookie in the last 30 years (min. 10 pass attempts).
I think it's unusual for a #1 pick to be playing against grocery baggers in preseason #1.
Also not sure how to interpret this? Meaning it makes the QB rating all the more impressive or it waters down the stat blurb when with the grocery baggers?

I am of the opinion that it makes it all the more impressive…grocery baggers against grocery baggers, but yet he was that efficient! Usually you could expect penalties, drops, mental and physical errors making for some sloppy football…instead it looked like a field general marshalling all his resources very adeptly!

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:18 am

stillthere wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:21 am
They could just as easily be 6-2 heading into the bye week.
Lolololz

Not a chance in hell they are 6-2

On defense they got Cam TJ Minkah and MAYBE one or 2 other guys who can play somewhat

On offense they have a WR unit that might be something but an OL that can’t block and an OC that is among the worst in the league

I hope they go 8-0 but 0-8 is much more likely


We will see
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Post by Jizz Mop » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:42 am

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Post by Jams » Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:59 pm

You guys realize he was playing against people who won't be on an NFL roster in 3 weeks on possibly the worst team in the NFL? All 3 QB looked good.

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Post by tbsteel » Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:59 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:34 am
The Steelers first games are

@Bengals
Cheats
@Browns
Jets
@Bills
Bucs
@Dolphins
@Eagles

And then the bye

The Steelers could be 0-8. I think 3-5 would be the absolute best they could hope for.

Maybe put Kenny in after the season is destroyed then the pressure is off

That’s a good plan IMO. Let Trubisky sink like a rock the first half of the season and hope you can plug in Kenny when the schedule lightens up and see what he can do.
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Post by jebrick » Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:03 pm

Pickett played vs future car salesmen and shelf stockers at Walmart. It was good but I want to see him with some of the 2nd stringers at least.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:12 pm

Jams wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:59 pm
You guys realize he was playing against people who won't be on an NFL roster in 3 weeks on possibly the worst team in the NFL? All 3 QB looked good.
That cuts both ways though. Pickett had the same on his offensive unit. So does it water down the results or make it all the more impressive?

I saw Pickett standing tall ripping through progressions like a pro on a couple plays. And on the one scramble, he just seems to see the field like Ben. For a rookie he should have had tunnel vision and been looking for the sidelines, instead he was scrambling, eyes down field, juking, allowing his RB to set up a block, eyes down field, looking around, extending the play, while gliding to the sideline. Thought it was impressive for a rook…against grocery baggers, but I bet the same results would occur with the first teams. That type of downfield vision is not learned…he looked like a baller.

Overall, the 3rd string offensive unit looked pretty sharp and crisp whilst running their offense. I don’t recall and penalties for slop. KP orchestrated that offensive!

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Post by jeemie » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:14 pm

Trade or cut Rudolph and move Pickett up the depth chart.
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Post by steelclan » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:30 pm

Jams wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:59 pm
You guys realize he was playing against people who won't be on an NFL roster in 3 weeks on possibly the worst team in the NFL? All 3 QB looked good.
Yes, this is true and he was also playing with mostly players that won't be on an NFL roster. It was a solid start: he mostly made good decisions, looked poised and calm.

Things Mason Rudolph in his 5th year still struggles with.

Rudolph looked good until well, he didn't. He should've had a pick 6 and his throw on 3rd down on the goal line could've easily been picked as well.

Then he threw way too high for a wide-open Heyward in the middle of the field.

If Jets toss any draft pick PS way in a trade for him? PS should hand him a bus ticket immediately.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:42 pm

1) I’m rooting for Pickett to do well

2) Roll outs are fun. At first. Until defenses catch up and start goading you into that and consequently get you playing a limited field

3) There are 3 kinds of “mobile QBs” The running QB (Lamar Jackson) The avoid the rush in the pocket QB (7) The scrambling QB (Pickett). The scrambler is the one I’d least enjoy working with

4) Pickett has some mojo. His teammates respond well to him and he isn’t overcome by the moment. It was a bs preseason game against nobodies. At the very least right now we know Pickett has some intangibles going for him.


The Steelers are the worst team in NFL history at developing and growing the QB spot. You couldn’t create a more willfully and maliciously destructive anti-QB team if you tried.

I think they went after Pickett mainly because he became a hero at Pitt despite lacking in a lot of areas. Maybe the Steelers kinda want to promote a “hometown hero” type of bs at QB even though Kenny is from Jersey (??????!!!!!!?????!!!!!!? ?? ! ????)

I do know for an absolute fact that the Steelers deeply and proudly resent real legitimate talent. They absolutely hate truly outlier talented athletes way deep down in their soul. The Steelers LOVE them some low talent try hard guys and they LOVE the idea that if you work and struggle REAL HARD you just might make it to the mountain top before you die

I would much rather take a helicopter have some champagne at the peak hop back in the helicopter go home and move on

If the Steelers FINALLY realize how to develop the QB spot maybe Kenny has a chance.
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Post by Scunge » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:54 pm

Kodiak. wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:45 am
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:53 am
QB Kenny Pickett produced a 132.6 passer rating in his preseason debut - higher than any other rookie in the last 30 years (min. 10 pass attempts).
I think it's unusual for a #1 pick to be playing against grocery baggers in preseason #1.
Take it for what it is worth, but Matt Williamson was saying that it looked to him that Seattle had more established players out there in the second half whereas we were going to the bottom of the roster.

I agree with general premise though, Kenny probably is the best QB on the team. I was impressed with his poise and command of the offense, as well as his instincts to know when to run to pick up yards. With Mitch it seems to be a reactionary thing, almost like running as a last resort or if specifically scripted due to the play call while Pickett has a better feel for when to go off script and improvise to run. Kenny also looks so damn natural throwing on the run.

Yes, Yes, first preseason game but that went about as well as could be expected. What I like/love is that reports of him rapidly learning/digesting/growing appear to be true.

The Steelers would be doing a disservice to him by not having him be at least the #2 QB to start the season. If Mitch gets the majority of the snaps in practice as the starter, then the #2 gets the remaining snaps and the 3rd QB barely does anything throwing with the scout team and maybe not even that. It would hinder Kenny's development to not be the #2 QB. He needs to be the #2, needs to be getting those precious reps in practice, needs to be intimately involved in the game plan.

Good for Mason to have showed well this game but we really need to trade him to position Kenny to where he can maximize his growth and learning as a rookie.

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Post by jeemie » Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:03 pm

Yes this is what I think…trade Rudolph (hopefully to the Jets) or if you can’t trade him, cut him.

Kenny needs to start getting snaps with the second team at least. Rudolph is never gonna be the guy, so all he’s doing is taking practice time away from Kenny.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:12 pm

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Yes this is what I think…trade Rudolph (hopefully to the Jets) or if you can’t trade him, cut him.

Kenny needs to start getting snaps with the second team at least. Rudolph is never gonna be the guy, so all he’s doing is taking practice time away from Kenny.
Why the fuck would the Jets or any other team trade for Mason fucking Rudolph ??

Is there a clipboard holder shortage I’m not aware of ?? A dearth of 3rd string QBs ??

There are gonna be plenty Mason Rudolph types cut very soon
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:27 pm

I expect Pickett to be smooth early, as he oozes confidence and plays vanilla defenses. Once they get a book on him and break him down, I also expect the fall to be precipitous. In other words, the Tommy Maddox post XFL career arc.

Could be fun for a while
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Post by yygy » Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:39 pm

For me it’s driven by the OL. No way I rush Pickett in there if he just gets decked, a la burrow and many other rooks.

I’d look at win % too. If the team is winning with trubiski go with the hot hand for a while.

IOW the various conflicts and scenarios are not important. I doubt Pickett loses sleep over being 2 or 3 on the depth chart.

There’s a bigger plan to put in place here. Last night confirmed Pickett has it. Arm, movement, brains. Just have some patience. No reason to rush it
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Post by Scunge » Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:40 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:27 pm
I expect Pickett to be smooth early, as he oozes confidence and plays vanilla defenses. Once they get a book on him and break him down, I also expect the fall to be precipitous. In other words, the Tommy Maddox post XFL career arc.

Could be fun for a while
Or, if Pickett is surrounded by this loaded and stacked first team of Harris, Freiermuth, DJ, Claypool, Pickens, and Austin, they may allow him to thrive and not fall at all.

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Post by steelclan » Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:45 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:27 pm
I expect Pickett to be smooth early, as he oozes confidence and plays vanilla defenses. Once they get a book on him and break him down, I also expect the fall to be precipitous. In other words, the Tommy Maddox post XFL career arc.

Could be fun for a while
Lol fair enough.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:07 pm

Scunge wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:40 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:27 pm
I expect Pickett to be smooth early, as he oozes confidence and plays vanilla defenses. Once they get a book on him and break him down, I also expect the fall to be precipitous. In other words, the Tommy Maddox post XFL career arc.

Could be fun for a while
Or, if Pickett is surrounded by this loaded and stacked first team of Harris, Freiermuth, DJ, Claypool, Pickens, and Austin, they may allow him to thrive and not fall at all.
Tommy had incredible talent around him. QBs without some outlier talent usually have trouble sustaining the success. It’s always possible he’ll exceed that but we’re not going to know until he’s faced some great D and they’ve faced him.
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Post by 955876 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:44 pm

Last night confirmed Pickett has it. Arm, movement, brains. Just have some patience. No reason to rush it
We need to see how he does on the deep outs, the deep balls down the field, AND how he is able to throw the ball in cold & windy conditions before stating he has the "arm".

I hope he does. Looked really good last night and appears to have some moxy to him which is important in a QB. But we just don't know about his arm yet IMO.

Can he make big time NFL "franchise" QB throws when the weather turns?

Again, I hope he does.

And it would literally be Jibbs being Jibbs if he does something stupid like having KP the #3 going into the season.

He doesn't need to start but he needs 2nd team reps and needs to prepare each week as if he is one play away.

I don't care if Rudolph is the better option to preserve an 8-8-1 season. Fuck that.

If Mitch goes down and KP has to get thrown to the wolves so be it. He doesn't appear to be so mentally fragile that struggling early would have a long-term impact.

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Post by Jobu » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:55 pm

So…I’m going to call today “Overreaction Sunday”…everyone OK with that? :lol:

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Post by Kodiak. » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:09 pm

Jams wrote:
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You guys realize he was playing against people who won't be on an NFL roster in 3 weeks on possibly the worst team in the NFL? All 3 QB looked good.
Right. It was basically another college game for him. He was a good college QB.
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Post by Kodiak. » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:15 pm

Scunge wrote:
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Or, if Pickett is surrounded by this loaded and stacked first team of Harris, Freiermuth, DJ, Claypool, Pickens, and Austin, they may allow him to thrive and not fall at all.
That's about as homer of a comment as anyone could make. We haven't seen Austin take a snap even in preseason yet. Clayturd is lazy and probably on his way out of the league in a few years. Muth is a very average TE. Harris was one of the worst RB's in the league last year.

Even if those guys were all as close to as good as you think they are, it's still not going to matter a hell of a lot if the OL doesn't get a lot better.
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Post by jeemie » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:20 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
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Yes this is what I think…trade Rudolph (hopefully to the Jets) or if you can’t trade him, cut him.

Kenny needs to start getting snaps with the second team at least. Rudolph is never gonna be the guy, so all he’s doing is taking practice time away from Kenny.
Why the fuck would the Jets or any other team trade for Mason fucking Rudolph ??

Is there a clipboard holder shortage I’m not aware of ?? A dearth of 3rd string QBs ??

There are gonna be plenty Mason Rudolph types cut very soon
The Jets just lost Zach Wilson for 2-4 weeks. He might be ready for their opener…likely not.

I also said cut him if no one else wants him.
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