Kenny Pickett is the Best QB on the Team

[Ice]

So…I’m going to call today “Overreaction Sunday”…everyone OK with that?

Both positively and negatively.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Yes this is what I think…trade Rudolph (hopefully to the Jets) or if you can’t trade him, cut him.

Kenny needs to start getting snaps with the second team at least. Rudolph is never gonna be the guy, so all he’s doing is taking practice time away from Kenny.

Why the fuck would the Jets or any other team trade for Mason fucking Rudolph ??

Is there a clipboard holder shortage I’m not aware of ?? A dearth of 3rd string QBs ??

There are gonna be plenty Mason Rudolph types cut very soon

The Jets just lost Zach Wilson for 2-4 weeks. He might be ready for their opener…likely not.

I also said cut him if no one else wants him.

What’s the gain if you cut him ?? I’m not a big Rudolph supporter but no reason right now to cut him

[Kodiak.]

What’s the gain if you cut him ?? I’m not a big Rudolph supporter but no reason right now to cut him

Well, if they can't trade him they'll cut him. And I think, in the past, if a vet isn't in their plans they've cut him earlier than not to give him a chance to make another team. Not really in PIT best interest, but that's how they've operated.

I honestly don't know if Rudolph would make another team. At least half the teams already have a back-up that's better than him. So there is a possibility, if PIT really wants to carry 3 QB's (not counting the R7 pick), that they could cut and re-sign him for vet min and save a few million bucks of cap.

[jeemie]

For me it’s driven by the OL. No way I rush Pickett in there if he just gets decked, a la burrow and many other rooks.

I’d look at win % too. If the team is winning with trubiski go with the hot hand for a while.

IOW the various conflicts and scenarios are not important. I doubt Pickett loses sleep over being 2 or 3 on the depth chart.

There’s a bigger plan to put in place here. Last night confirmed Pickett has it. Arm, movement, brains. Just have some patience. No reason to rush it

He should be the #2 at least.

Rudolph is wasting a roster space.

[Ice]

Well, do the Steelers keep Rudolph (and his 3 million dollar salary) on the 53, at the expense of, say, a good looking ST specialist in Boykin or a good looking PR prospect in Sims? As the 3rd QB, he's not going to be getting a hat on Sundays. You can't keep him on the PS... it's basically 2nd team QB or bust.

I'd be happy calling it "agenda confirmation Sunday," too, btw.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Given that this team isn’t gonna come close to making the playoffs I agree with the 2 QB idea

[Kodiak.]

He should be the #2 at least.

Rudolph is wasting a roster space.

He should be #2 now. I don't think it's a big deal, or wrong, that he started camp as #3. The flip side of that coin is Rudolph gives you a better look at guys on the margin because he knows the offense. But outside of a few idiots that own Rudolph jerseys, I don't think anyone was under the delusion that Pickett wouldn't be the #2 QB heading into the season.

If Pickett is too fragile to get a series with the first team next week, then fine. But he should finish out preseason getting #2 reps. There might even be a decent chance [or should be] that Rudolph is traded or released this week.

It would be really dumb to suddenly make a rookie that operated as #3 all camp your backup heading into the season.

[Kodiak.]

Given that this team isn’t gonna come close to making the playoffs I agree with the 2 QB idea

They do have another QB in camp, one they thought enough of to waste an R7 pick on.

I don't think there's another team carrying 3 QB's that has as their #3 a first round pick or a 5-yr vet. Purely a developmental position, and that should be Oladokun. Why spend an R7 on the guy and not even give him a shot to make the roster?

[Ice]

Plus you actually can stash Oladokun on the PS (and save $3 million in cap to possibly pay, say, some vet OT, ILB or IDL depth during cuts).

[Jobu]

Reportedly, Oladokun had been nothing more than an oversized paperweight on the practice field. Hasn’t had a single snap in team drills.
One would think ( hope) that they drafted this guy with a purpose, and there is going to be some kind of move within the QB room in the next week or two. The optimist in me wants to believe they are going to hold on to Rudolph long enough to “showcase” him in the preseason, in the hope of getting a team, a QB desperate team to bite.
Let’s remember that the Steelers got a 5th round pick for Josh Dobbs, a guy that makes Rudolph look like Eli Manning in comparison, so there can be some draft value there.
But then, this is the Mike Tomlin/A2 Steelers we are talking about here, so it could very likely be… what you see, is what you get!

[Kodiak.]

Reportedly, Oladokun had been nothing more than an oversized paperweight on the practice field. Hasn’t had a single snap in team drills.
One would think ( hope) that they drafted this guy with a purpose

The only reason I can think that they used an R7 pick (which, let's be honest, is pretty much worthless, anyway) and still expose him to waivers is because they didn't think with the current QB room he would be willing to sign as a UDFA.

A week ago I was 95% certain they would cut or trade Rudolph. Pretty much 100% now. Release and re-sign is possible - they simply aren't going to pay a 3rd string QB $3M.

[stillthere]

The Steelers are the worst team in NFL history at developing and growing the QB spot. You couldn’t create a more willfully and maliciously destructive anti-QB team if you tried.

Yeah Cleveland has done a bang up job of developing QB over the last 30ish years.
As an extension of Cleveland Baltimore has done a bang up job of developing nothing at the QB position either.
Andy Dalton soooooo developed. We have not even looked outside the AFCN yet.
NYJ that Mark Sanchez sure developed.
Miami had Dan Marino and then a black hole at the position since.

Fuck Maddox developed more than probably a third of the QB's in the NFL during his 3 year run in Pittsburgh. Fuck even Neil #14 developed more than a crap ton of QB's.

I know your dumb little shtick is to poo poo and doom & gloom and when the team finally has a losing season under Tomlin you will pat yourself on the back and tell everyone how right you were and how smart you are. It really is kind of sad.

[stillthere]

Reportedly, Oladokun had been nothing more than an oversized paperweight on the practice field. Hasn’t had a single snap in team drills.
One would think ( hope) that they drafted this guy with a purpose

The only reason I can think that they used an R7 pick (which, let's be honest, is pretty much worthless, anyway) and still expose him to waivers is because they didn't think with the current QB room he would be willing to sign as a UDFA.

A week ago I was 95% certain they would cut or trade Rudolph. Pretty much 100% now. Release and re-sign is possible - they simply aren't going to pay a 3rd string QB $3M.

Oladokun will end up on the practice squad so he can simulate Watson & Jackson in division during practice. He probably won't take a single snap in a preseason game and only will get practice reps during closed practices when they head back to the UPMC complex.

[DP39]

Reportedly, Oladokun had been nothing more than an oversized paperweight on the practice field. Hasn’t had a single snap in team drills.
One would think ( hope) that they drafted this guy with a purpose

The only reason I can think that they used an R7 pick (which, let's be honest, is pretty much worthless, anyway) and still expose him to waivers is because they didn't think with the current QB room he would be willing to sign as a UDFA.

A week ago I was 95% certain they would cut or trade Rudolph. Pretty much 100% now. Release and re-sign is possible - they simply aren't going to pay a 3rd string QB $3M.

Oladokun will end up on the practice squad so he can simulate Watson & Jackson (for Jackson, at least, only a better passer ) in division during practice. He probably won't take a single snap in a preseason game and only will get practice reps during closed practices when they head back to the UPMC complex.

Fix it for ya...

[COR-TEN]

The Steelers are the worst team in NFL history at developing and growing the QB spot. You couldn’t create a more willfully and maliciously destructive anti-QB team if you tried.

Yeah Cleveland has done a bang up job of developing QB over the last 30ish years.
As an extension of Cleveland Baltimore has done a bang up job of developing nothing at the QB position either.
Andy Dalton soooooo developed. We have not even looked outside the AFCN yet.
NYJ that Mark Sanchez sure developed.
Miami had Dan Marino and then a black hole at the position since.

Fuck Maddox developed more than probably a third of the QB's in the NFL during his 3 year run in Pittsburgh. Fuck even Neil #14 developed more than a crap ton of QB's.

I know your dumb little shtick is to poo poo and doom & gloom and when the team finally has a losing season under Tomlin you will pat yourself on the back and tell everyone how right you were and how smart you are. It really is kind of sad.

I was going to say the same thing. The steelers success rate for developing players is probably above the mean for the NFL. I know around these parts NHLS is an insult, but how many teams can say the same thing? No, I didn't look up stats.

Anyway, I only saw highlights, but the conservative route would be make MR #2, and develop pickett for a year, and then eject MR in 2023 camp and create a QB battle between trubisky and picketts. If trubisky wins, then Pickett is #2 with a chance to be #1 in 2024. I understand MR's cap hit would remove the possibility of adding depth, but I don't see this team going the knee jerk route of cutting MR, promoting Pickett to #2, and going with the camp paper weight as #3. Maybe the steelers are waiting until later in the camp "season" to see what everybody does/ what other teams' needs are. Tomlin has suggested as much, IIRC, that it's an ongoing process. The only thing I see as given is that trubisky is #1 to start the season.

[stillthere]

The only reason I can think that they used an R7 pick (which, let's be honest, is pretty much worthless, anyway) and still expose him to waivers is because they didn't think with the current QB room he would be willing to sign as a UDFA.

A week ago I was 95% certain they would cut or trade Rudolph. Pretty much 100% now. Release and re-sign is possible - they simply aren't going to pay a 3rd string QB $3M.

Oladokun will end up on the practice squad so he can simulate Watson & Jackson (for Jackson, at least, only a better passer ) in division during practice. He probably won't take a single snap in a preseason game and only will get practice reps during closed practices when they head back to the UPMC complex.

Fix it for ya...

I agree that he is probably a better passer than Jackson already. But there are more and more mobile QB's every year. So having a guy that can get the D a good simulated look is a big bonus.

[Jobu]

Oladokun, like Watson, runs in the 4.7ish 40 range. Lamar is a low 4.3 guy and slippery as all get out. Oladokun might give you a Watson-esque look, but he’s not coming close to mimicking Jackson.
And if that’s the main reason the Steelers drafted the kid, 7th round or not, it’s a waste of a draft pick.
Again, I hope they have other plans.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Let’s not forget that dicking around with Tommy Maddox might have cost us an undefeated season! Not many have this take. It is usually the Steelers and Cowher did a great job of meshing Ben into the season with less than ideal circumstances. “They took their time and helped mold him as a game manager for that year”

Here is another take…maybe they were awful at believing what their eyes were seeing with Ben, and they actually hosed up an undefeated season because they overestimated their ability at evaluating QB talent and coming up with a way to integrate a superstar rookie into an established NFL team and organization.

Again…just get it over with! Work to get KP to start week 1! This is the nearly-United States of America where sports is a pretty big deal people! Everyone keeps standing on the shoulders of those before them to raise the quality level of the sport and the athlete!

Today’s rookie QB is like an iPhone versus the bagged Motorola monstrosity cell phone rookies of yesteryear. This is not your Granpappy’s NFL any more!

Let’s get it over with and get 1 year closer to getting our franchise QB. This idea that you have to coddle NFL QB rookies like a semi-flaccid condom covered penis getting inserted into a magic vagina or you lose the chance of an erection forever Is outdated in 2022!

Start KP week 1! Nothing to lose…gets us to the answer quicker!

[Jobu]

Let’s not forget that dicking around with Tommy Maddox might have cost us an undefeated season! Not many have this take. It is usually the Steelers and Cowher did a great job of meshing Ben into the season with less than ideal circumstances. “They took their time and helped mold him as a game manager for that year”

Here is another take…maybe they were awful at believing what their eyes were seeing with Ben, and they actually hosed up an undefeated season because they overestimated their ability at evaluating QB talent and coming up with a way to integrate a superstar rookie into an established NFL team and organization.

Again…just get it over with! Work to get KP to start week 1! This is the nearly-United States of America where sports is a pretty big deal people! Everyone keeps standing on the shoulders of those before them to raise the quality level of the sport and the athlete!

Today’s rookie QB is like an iPhone versus the bagged Motorola monstrosity cell phone rookies of yesteryear. This is not your Granpappy’s NFL any more!

Let’s get it over with and get 1 year closer to getting our franchise QB. This idea that you have to coddle NFL QB rookies like a semi-flaccid condom covered penis getting inserted into a magic vagina or you lose the chance of an erection forever Is outdated in 2022!

Start KP week 1! Nothing to lose…gets us to the answer quicker!

Can’t argue with that. The sooner he fails, the sooner you can move on.

[SteelerDayTrader]

I’m generally against starting rookie QBs week 1 for exactly the reason I stated earlier

I think guys getting their head/confidence messed up kills WAY MORE QBs than anything else

I know many of you wanna believe the Steelers are only a few players away…….I think that’s pretty far fetched

Let Trubisky or Rudolph destroy the season and then put Kenny in later in the season against a team you think you can beat and see what happens

[Kodiak.]

I’m generally against starting rookie QBs week 1 for exactly the reason I stated earlier

Kenny isn't doing shit as a rookie with that OL and Matt Canada.

Trubisky has just as much pedigree, and some success in the NFL. Let's see what he has, first, since there's not really any upside to throwing Kenny into the fire right away.


It's almost like no one understands Kenny was playing last night against grocery baggers in vanilla man coverage. A nice job of pitch-n-catch, and showed good composure. But that's absolutely no indication if he's remotely ready [or able] to do it in a real game against a first string NFL defense.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I’m generally against starting rookie QBs week 1 for exactly the reason I stated earlier

Kenny isn't doing shit as a rookie with that OL and Matt Canada.

Trubisky has just as much pedigree, and some success in the NFL. Let's see what he has, first, since there's not really any upside to throwing Kenny into the fire right away.


It's almost like no one understands Kenny was playing last night against grocery baggers in vanilla man coverage. A nice job of pitch-n-catch, and showed good composure. But that's absolutely no indication if he's remotely ready [or able] to do it in a real game against a first string NFL defense.

I saw enough to move him up so he is sharing snaps with Trubisky and the first team. You may be right about the grocery baggers. But let’s get that box checked with proof!

No reason not to keep progressing Kenny Pickett to starting in week 1; not one reason, yet! Keep moving forward with him. There is still plenty of time to do it safely, professionally, and planfully!

[Kodiak.]

I saw enough to move him up so he is sharing snaps with Trubisky and the first team. You may be right about the grocery baggers. But let’s get that box checked with proof!

They need to get Trubisky ready to start Wk1.

Let's see how Pickett does against 2nd stringers that will actually be on an NFL roster before declaring he's ready to compete with Trubisky to start.

[yygy]

Colbert said they’d go into camp with 4 qbs.

Lot of us forget that when Ben and dobbs left the team they were down to a single qb in Rudolph. So net of 3 is not surprising.

We’ve been down to the third string before. Rare but does happen.

I’m sure we’ll see more Pickett. Not totally ruling out him opening the season. I mean if trubiski sucks it up you gotta go with the kid

[Scunge]

Or, if Pickett is surrounded by this loaded and stacked first team of Harris, Freiermuth, DJ, Claypool, Pickens, and Austin, they may allow him to thrive and not fall at all.

That's about as homer of a comment as anyone could make. We haven't seen Austin take a snap even in preseason yet. Clayturd is lazy and probably on his way out of the league in a few years. Muth is a very average TE. Harris was one of the worst RB's in the league last year.

Even if those guys were all as close to as good as you think they are, it's still not going to matter a hell of a lot if the OL doesn't get a lot better.

I find it laughable that so many of you were prepared to tear Pickett to pieces, your blades all sharpened, and then he fails to live up to your doomed expectations.

Just as Mitch disappointed many of you.

Just as Connor Heyward disappointed many of you.

Just as McFarland disappointed many of you.

Just as Matt Canada disappointed many of you.

Of course none of those players disappointed me, I thought they did very well and gave us hope and optimism for the future.

Must be something to actively hate the team you supposedly love, wishing for their demise.

[Ice]

The Steelers are the worst team in NFL history at developing and growing the QB spot. You couldn’t create a more willfully and maliciously destructive anti-QB team if you tried.

Yeah Cleveland has done a bang up job of developing QB over the last 30ish years.
As an extension of Cleveland Baltimore has done a bang up job of developing nothing at the QB position either.
Andy Dalton soooooo developed. We have not even looked outside the AFCN yet.
NYJ that Mark Sanchez sure developed.
Miami had Dan Marino and then a black hole at the position since.

Fuck Maddox developed more than probably a third of the QB's in the NFL during his 3 year run in Pittsburgh. Fuck even Neil #14 developed more than a crap ton of QB's.

I know your dumb little shtick is to poo poo and doom & gloom and when the team finally has a losing season under Tomlin you will pat yourself on the back and tell everyone how right you were and how smart you are. It really is kind of sad.

Hell, Bubby Brister went on a decent playoff run out of a tiny school in Louisiana and has two more Super Bowl rings than any Patriots QB other than Brady, and any Miami QB since Bob Griese. Before Mahomes, who was the best QB the Chiefs drafted and developed? Len Dawson?

QB in the NFL ain't easy.

[Kodiak.]

I find it laughable that so many of you were prepared to tear Pickett to pieces, your blades all sharpened, and then he fails to live up to your doomed expectations.

I've seen enough scrubs tear-up PIT defense over the years - not just in preseason but when it counts against first stringers - to take Saturday with a giant grain of salt.

I mean, if Pickett hadn't looked good that would have been pretty bad, right? OK, he proved, at least for one night, that he can play pitch-n-catch against grocery baggers in vanilla man coverage. That's a LONG LONG LONG LONG LONG way from showing us he's a franchise QB.

[LakecrestSteeler]

I saw enough to move him up so he is sharing snaps with Trubisky and the first team. You may be right about the grocery baggers. But let’s get that box checked with proof!

They need to get Trubisky ready to start Wk1.

Let's see how Pickett does against 2nd stringers that will actually be on an NFL roster before declaring he's ready to compete with Trubisky to start.

I will be waiting with bated breath. Like I said just keep progressing him.

Why does it have to be Trubisky? Because they signed him? Promises were made? It is the way the Steelers do things? Other teams do it this way? The pundits say so? The media expects it? Fans are clamoring?

They can get Pickett up to Trubisky’s level. He is nearly already there. Trubisky and Rudolph have no panache or joie de vivre like Pickett has at this moment!

Kenny P is the Spaniard. Trubisky is fucked and he will be fighting that monkey all season. Have you not seen the movie? Are you not entertained?

They will be chanting SPANIARD SPANIARD SPANIARD until the Spaniard goes into the gladiator ring, called Acrisure. Kenny won’t be the best because he will kill quickly, Kenny will be the best because the crowd loves him! Trubisky and Rudolph are cursed because of this.

https://youtu.be/VnZYCQ2SC4Y

Kenny doesn’t have to win the crowd! He won the crowd from his legend at Pitt. This is all new to Mike Tomlin, the Steelers, the NFL…sure you don’t need to rush it, but you also don’t need to suppress it.

If you don’t think SPANIARD SPANIARD KENNY KENNY will be raining down from the stands first home game…there is a bridge in Pittsburgh for sale! And it will have an impact; not on the fragile “rookie”, but on the fragile 10 & 2!

And to be clear, I am not anointing KP as the PS new franchise QB, but I am anointing him to the mantle of the Steelers best chance to have an enjoyable, exciting, and entertaining season, and maybe even successful!

[El Kabong]

I saw enough to move him up so he is sharing snaps with Trubisky and the first team. You may be right about the grocery baggers. But let’s get that box checked with proof!

They need to get Trubisky ready to start Wk1.

Let's see how Pickett does against 2nd stringers that will actually be on an NFL roster before declaring he's ready to compete with Trubisky to start.

I will be waiting with bated breath. Like I said just keep progressing him.

Why does it have to be Trubisky? Because they signed him? Promises were made? It is the way the Steelers do things? Other teams do it this way? The pundits say so? The media expects it? Fans are clamoring?

They can get Pickett up to Trubisky’s level. He is nearly already there. Trubisky and Rudolph have no panache or joie de vivre like Pickett has at this moment!

Kenny P is the Spaniard. Trubisky is fucked and he will be fighting that monkey all season. Have you not seen the movie? Are you not entertained?

They will be chanting SPANIARD SPANIARD SPANIARD until the Spaniard goes into the gladiator ring, called Acrisure. Kenny won’t be the best because he will kill quickly, Kenny will be the best because the crowd loves him! Trubisky and Rudolph are cursed because of this.

https://youtu.be/VnZYCQ2SC4Y

Kenny doesn’t have to win the crowd! He won the crowd from his legend at Pitt. This is all new to Mike Tomlin, the Steelers, the NFL…sure you don’t need to rush it, but you also don’t need to suppress it.

If you don’t think SPANIARD SPANIARD KENNY KENNY will be raining down from the stands first home game…there is a bridge in Pittsburgh for sale! And it will have an impact; not on the fragile “rookie”, but on the fragile 10 & 2!

And to be clear, I am not anointing KP as the PS new franchise QB, but I am anointing him to the mantle of the Steelers best chance to have an enjoyable, exciting, and entertaining season, and maybe even successful!

I'm not sure if I agree with your point, but that was funny.

[Jobu]

They need to get Trubisky ready to start Wk1.

Let's see how Pickett does against 2nd stringers that will actually be on an NFL roster before declaring he's ready to compete with Trubisky to start.

I will be waiting with bated breath. Like I said just keep progressing him.

Why does it have to be Trubisky? Because they signed him? Promises were made? It is the way the Steelers do things? Other teams do it this way? The pundits say so? The media expects it? Fans are clamoring?

They can get Pickett up to Trubisky’s level. He is nearly already there. Trubisky and Rudolph have no panache or joie de vivre like Pickett has at this moment!

Kenny P is the Spaniard. Trubisky is fucked and he will be fighting that monkey all season. Have you not seen the movie? Are you not entertained?

They will be chanting SPANIARD SPANIARD SPANIARD until the Spaniard goes into the gladiator ring, called Acrisure. Kenny won’t be the best because he will kill quickly, Kenny will be the best because the crowd loves him! Trubisky and Rudolph are cursed because of this.

https://youtu.be/VnZYCQ2SC4Y

Kenny doesn’t have to win the crowd! He won the crowd from his legend at Pitt. This is all new to Mike Tomlin, the Steelers, the NFL…sure you don’t need to rush it, but you also don’t need to suppress it.

If you don’t think SPANIARD SPANIARD KENNY KENNY will be raining down from the stands first home game…there is a bridge in Pittsburgh for sale! And it will have an impact; not on the fragile “rookie”, but on the fragile 10 & 2!

And to be clear, I am not anointing KP as the PS new franchise QB, but I am anointing him to the mantle of the Steelers best chance to have an enjoyable, exciting, and entertaining season, and maybe even successful!

I'm not sure if I agree with your point, but that was funny.

It sure was!