Divisional Round Thread - More Complaints

[Dshiner]

Other than that, isn't it about time for a classic rock act, or is that not permitted. Def Leppard, Billy Joel, AC/DC...

Feel like they've done that, and they've often been way too far past their primes. It also is a little weird to have an act who's heyday pre-dates when any of the players were born.

I'm sure Eminem will be the big surprise for Rhianna's performance.

Bring back Up With People!

I was at 76 SB Up With People's Tribute to the Bicentennial. Thank jeebus for weed and cheap beer and win.

Back to the Orange Bowl in 79 for another Steeler win and Ken Hamilton's Tribute the Caribbean or Up With People, Haiti.

At least these shows had camp value. Every SB halftime show is shit since they went pop.

To the poster thinking GNR needs to reform. They have been touring for last couple years with Axl, Duff and Slash on board. Terrible.

Olsen rhapsodizing about Rihanna was cringey. She is from the Carribean too!

[Dshiner]

Does anything really think the "Brain Trust" /snark of Tomlin and Co. have any chance of defeating the Bengals anytime in the next decade? I would say the Bengals ain't the Bungles any longer.

LOL why worry about the Bungles when we haven't even won a playoff game in 6+ years?!?

Take some solace knowing Tomlin isn't good enough to seriously disappoint you.

By the time the Steelers are legit contenders, Burrow will probably be getting fitted for his yellow jacket.
Anyone that watched the real contenders this weekend and thinks the Steelers are anywhere close, is delusional.

They all seem to play so much crisper and faster than the Steelers, even the Bills and Giants. I enjoyed watching the Steelers this season even when they were going 2-6 but every game was such a slog.

[Jobu]

LOL why worry about the Bungles when we haven't even won a playoff game in 6+ years?!?

Take some solace knowing Tomlin isn't good enough to seriously disappoint you.

By the time the Steelers are legit contenders, Burrow will probably be getting fitted for his yellow jacket.
Anyone that watched the real contenders this weekend and thinks the Steelers are anywhere close, is delusional.

They all seem to play so much crisper and faster than the Steelers, even the Bills and Giants. I enjoyed watching the Steelers this season even when they were going 2-6 but every game was such a slog.

Exactly. They block better, tackle better, they are so much more explosive off the ball. They are at a different level, even the Bengals with three backup offensive linemen on the field. They play with a swagger. The Steelers play like their coach…a boring, stupid cliche, that makes no sense.

[anpsteel]

LOL why worry about the Bungles when we haven't even won a playoff game in 6+ years?!?

Take some solace knowing Tomlin isn't good enough to seriously disappoint you.

By the time the Steelers are legit contenders, Burrow will probably be getting fitted for his yellow jacket.
Anyone that watched the real contenders this weekend and thinks the Steelers are anywhere close, is delusional.

They all seem to play so much crisper and faster than the Steelers, even the Bills and Giants. I enjoyed watching the Steelers this season even when they were going 2-6 but every game was such a slog.

The thing I noticed the most watching these games, was the team speed of almost every remaining team.

[Jobu]

By the time the Steelers are legit contenders, Burrow will probably be getting fitted for his yellow jacket.
Anyone that watched the real contenders this weekend and thinks the Steelers are anywhere close, is delusional.

They all seem to play so much crisper and faster than the Steelers, even the Bills and Giants. I enjoyed watching the Steelers this season even when they were going 2-6 but every game was such a slog.

The thing I noticed the most watching these games, was the team speed of almost every remaining team.

Yep.

[langer]

Someone once said something about how speed can't be coached.

[bradshaw2ben]

The 4 remaining QBs couldn't be more different from one another:
The league MVP gunslinger with otherworldly
The dual-threat archetype
The cool under pressure but less than elite arm maestro
The undersized, overlooked tookie with the quick processor

One thing all four of these teams have in common: offensive minded–– even offensive genius-- Head Coaches.

[bradshaw2ben]

Yep.

Remember how the podcast crew orgasm over those measurables?

How is he a turnover machine? He’s still a great QB. Wasn’t bad but just didn’t have the magic today vs a kickass QB. WTF is your problem with the people creating content and our opinions? I don’t get the vitriol.

Not sure Allen is a great QB.

He was fucking AWFUL against a Miami team led by a 3rd string QB and probably should have lost that game.

Won by 3.

One week earlier, Miami won a nail biter against Joe Flacco to get the chance to play Allen in Buffalo.

Allen has great tools. He isn't a great QB.

Playing hurt-- throwing elbow.

He's unorthodox but I think he's really good.

[Professor Half Wit]

Cinci is the hottest team in the league right now. Burrow and Chase are better than any Steelers offensive player. Maybe they remember they are the Bungles but I think they will be the class of the division for the next several years.

Bunglers don’t repeat AFCCGs.

[Professor Half Wit]

The 4 remaining QBs couldn't be more different from one another:
The league MVP gunslinger with otherworldly
The dual-threat archetype
The cool under pressure but less than elite arm maestro
The undersized, overlooked tookie with the quick processor

One thing all four of these teams have in common: offensive minded–– even offensive genius-- Head Coaches.

Burrow sure looks like he’s legit and not a one outstanding year wonder. Maybe his arm is not elite but he can launch the ball just fine. No outlier measurables or outlier athletic gifts, but the entire package of tools sure looks to put him in the elite category.

[K_C_]

How is he a turnover machine? He’s still a great QB. Wasn’t bad but just didn’t have the magic today vs a kickass QB. WTF is your problem with the people creating content and our opinions? I don’t get the vitriol.

Not sure Allen is a great QB.

He was fucking AWFUL against a Miami team led by a 3rd string QB and probably should have lost that game.

Won by 3.

One week earlier, Miami won a nail biter against Joe Flacco to get the chance to play Allen in Buffalo.

Allen has great tools. He isn't a great QB.

Playing hurt-- throwing elbow.

He's unorthodox but I think he's really good.

He is really good. No one will ever doubt that, but he lacks something. He lacks that killer instinct and confidence that guys like Brady, Roethlisberger, Mahomes and Burrow have. Makes too many mistakes. LOVES throwing INTS. 6 freaking games where he threw double digit picks. I forget if he had 1 or 2 yesterday.

Allen’s very good. I don’t think he’s great.

[Steelperch]

The 4 remaining QBs couldn't be more different from one another:
The league MVP gunslinger with otherworldly
The dual-threat archetype
The cool under pressure but less than elite arm maestro
The undersized, overlooked tookie with the quick processor

One thing all four of these teams have in common: offensive minded–– even offensive genius-- Head Coaches.

Might just be the best four offensive coaches/staffs in the league in the final four. That’s no coincidence.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Speed can't be coached, but separation can be. And that's more important. Otherwise, Hunter Renfro is asking you if you want extra protein with your order at Smoothie King.

Note that all four finalists are probably in the top five in receivers getting free into space. Which correlates with RAC, YPA and WINNING.

[Ice]

Not sure Allen is a great QB.

He was fucking AWFUL against a Miami team led by a 3rd string QB and probably should have lost that game.

Won by 3.

One week earlier, Miami won a nail biter against Joe Flacco to get the chance to play Allen in Buffalo.

Allen has great tools. He isn't a great QB.

Playing hurt-- throwing elbow.

He's unorthodox but I think he's really good.

He is really good. No one will ever doubt that, but he lacks something. He lacks that killer instinct and confidence that guys like Brady, Roethlisberger, Mahomes and Burrow have. Makes too many mistakes. LOVES throwing INTS. 6 freaking games where he threw double digit picks. I forget if he had 1 or 2 yesterday.

Allen’s very good. I don’t think he’s great.

Also led the NFL in games under 60% passing. 8, if I'm not mistaken.

[bradshaw2ben]

@Ice

Allen was 5th the league in DYAR, 5th in DVOA, 2nd in QBR. He also had a completion percentage higher than Kenny QB God Pickett, despite having a YPA of 7.6 vs 6.2 and a TD% of 6.2 % vs 1.8%.

And did I mention he was arguably the most effective QB runner in the NFL this side of Justin Fields?

I think we're nitpicking.

[El Kabong]

@Ice

Allen was 5th the league in DYAR, 5th in DVOA, 2nd in QBR. He also had a completion percentage higher than Kenny QB God Pickett, despite having a YPA of 7.6 vs 6.2 and a TD% of 6.2 % vs 1.8%.

And did I mention he was arguably the most effective QB runner in the NFL this side of Justin Fields?

I think we're nitpicking.

Who calls Kenny Pickett God?

[Ice]

@Ice

Allen was 5th the league in DYAR, 5th in DVOA, 2nd in QBR. He also had a completion percentage higher than Kenny QB God Pickett, despite having a YPA of 7.6 vs 6.2 and a TD% of 6.2 % vs 1.8%.

And did I mention he was arguably the most effective QB runner in the NFL this side of Justin Fields?

I think we're nitpicking.

Overreaction Monday

I do find myself a little partial to Burrow, though.

[bradshaw2ben]

You probably don't spend enough time on twitter or SteelersDepot if you have to ask.

He's the Golden Child, that's for sure. I hope he lives up to the billing.

[K_C_]

@Ice

Allen was 5th the league in DYAR, 5th in DVOA, 2nd in QBR. He also had a completion percentage higher than Kenny QB God Pickett, despite having a YPA of 7.6 vs 6.2 and a TD% of 6.2 % vs 1.8%.

And did I mention he was arguably the most effective QB runner in the NFL this side of Justin Fields?

I think we're nitpicking.

Why would you compare veteran Josh Allen who broke the bank in Buffalo to rookie Kenny Pickett?

…..and it’s telling you’d go there.

Allen has elite size, mobility and arm skills. He also fucks up a lot (2 INT’s in 6 or 7 games this year is ridiculous) and just played two awful playoff games. Even a concussed Tua would have probably beaten Josh had he got out there instead of Skylar Thompson.

I know you’re a big fan and Allen is a high level QB.

I don’t think he’s great by any means and Joe Burrow has clearly moved past Allen as the second best QB in the AFC and I don’t think it’s particularly close at this point.

Allen has the talent to win big but he has a lot to clean up. A lot.

[Pickett's Platoon]

@Ice

Allen was 5th the league in DYAR, 5th in DVOA, 2nd in QBR. He also had a completion percentage higher than Kenny QB God Pickett, despite having a YPA of 7.6 vs 6.2 and a TD% of 6.2 % vs 1.8%.

And did I mention he was arguably the most effective QB runner in the NFL this side of Justin Fields?

I think we're nitpicking.

Why would you compare veteran Josh Allen who broke the bank in Buffalo to rookie Kenny Pickett?

…..and it’s telling you’d go there.

Pickett's gonna be jizzing on some people next year.

He does need a burner WR to do it though. Someone that can run away from dudes.

Hopefully Austin can be that guy, but if I were them I'd be drafting another just to be double sure.

[Mick]

It’s not really a criticism to just point out the reality.

Over the past five years, we’ve gotten to see what Josh Allen could accomplish with one of the best rosters in the league around him. Over the next five to ten years, we’ll get to see what he can accomplish with a below average roster around him. The Bills fanbase is well aware that this is their situation.

[Ice]

Let's not discount Brian Daboll moving on.

[bradshaw2ben]

It’s not really a criticism to just point out the reality.

Over the past five years, we’ve gotten to see what Josh Allen could accomplish with one of the best rosters in the league around him. Over the next five to ten years, we’ll get to see what he can accomplish with a below average roster around him. The Bills fanbase is well aware that this is their situation.

This is true. He had the roster this year and it will only get worse (although black hole Edmunds will be gone and he was the primary victim on Sunday). Something rare happened: Buffalo got outcoached in this game. Plan was bad, team was flat.

[Ice]

Offensively, Josh Allen pretty much is Buffalo's plan.

[jeemie]

Cinci is the hottest team in the league right now. Burrow and Chase are better than any Steelers offensive player. Maybe they remember they are the Bungles but I think they will be the class of the division for the next several years.

Bunglers don’t repeat AFCCGs.

This season is the first time the Bengals have won a postseason game in back to back seasons…ever.

[Pabst]

Cinci is the hottest team in the league right now. Burrow and Chase are better than any Steelers offensive player. Maybe they remember they are the Bungles but I think they will be the class of the division for the next several years.

Next 2 or 3 years, for sure. The problem for the Bengals is that they'll need to back up the Brinks Truck to keep these guys around.

They'll be shelling out $80m/year to keep Burrow, Chase, and Higgins around at a minimum.

[Professor Half Wit]

You probably don't spend enough time on twitter or SteelersDepot if you have to ask.

He's the Golden Child, that's for sure. I hope he lives up to the billing.

Alex and Dave at Steelers Depot are far from having anointed Kenny and have critiqued him puh-lenty. Not sure where this take is coming from.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Let's not forget Burrow lost a year due to a serious knee injury. I am not 100 percent convinced open receiver>stalwart line when you do all the math.

[DP39]

It’s not really a criticism to just point out the reality.

Over the past five years, we’ve gotten to see what Josh Allen could accomplish with one of the best rosters in the league around him. Over the next five to ten years, we’ll get to see what he can accomplish with a below average roster around him. The Bills fanbase is well aware that this is their situation.

This is true. He had the roster this year and it will only get worse (although black hole Edmunds will be gone and he was the primary victim on Sunday). Something rare happened: Buffalo got outcoached in this game. Plan was bad, team was flat.

For years, I've been telling folks that both Terrell and Tremaine are great athletes but below average players of football. Tremaine is thrice the athlete Milano is, but not half the football player.

God I pray Tomlin doesn't do what I think Tomlin will/has shown us he'll do and spend our (what should be) decent cap space on Tremaine. I can't believe I'm typing this, but I think I would rather bring back Bush -- for a quarter of the price -- than have Tomlin doing Tomlin type things by signing Tremaine.

[Mick]

Right now my FA target for ILB is Lavonte David.

Would rather not lock us into someone whose team didn’t want him long term, and this draft class is bad at the top at ILB. In the mean time, just want someone that isn’t actively bad.