Titans at Steelers Game Comments & Misery

[CKSteeler]

I'm not grading him on a curve. He did what he could with the limitations of his players to attack what the Titans were doing. The underthrown pass to Austin was a TD left on the field dialed up specifically for what the defense is giving.

It hit him in the hands! Catch it.

Canada is responsible for the sloppiness at the end of the day. Something is amiss in their practices and that is under Canada’s remit.

That pass to Austin hit him in the hands and the stomach and he still somehow dropped it.

1. I never saw a clear replay to tell if that hit Austin or the DB's hands first, and neither did you.
2. It isn't tough for any WR to come to a complete stop and cut back inside and drop to the ground to catch a poorly thrown pass that needs to be dropped in a bucket over your shoulder.

It was a shit ball.

[jmacinwbp]

hey leave all those potential will levis interceptions out of this.

In the NFL you often have to almost throw an INT to be great.

Ben did that for 18 years, threw a lot of picks.

And if you don’t you largely have a very vanilla career, a lot like what we see from Kenward right now.

Yes.

Those 5 picks Levis tried to throw tonight were certainly Hall of Fame worthy

Yep, sorta like inferring it's time to be fitting purdy and his dead arm for a HOF jacket, and thinking his year would end with better passing stats than Rogers last MVP season & more rushing tds than ljs MVP season. Sometimes it's mind boggling .

[Boukman]

The playcalling tonight was an abortion. Constantly putting us in 3rd downs as usual. Thank God for Jaylen Warren's spark.

Canada called a good game and if guys made the plays on the field they should have, routine shit, they put up 30 points.

No he did not. He constantly ran on 2nd to set up 3rd down. I can't remember an aggressive middle of the field pass he called on early downs. Maybe the Austin ball over the middle? Wasn't much. He's still not using the whole field.

He called some good plays but not a good overall GAME. Almost nothing downfield. 3 good drives but otherwise no consistent rhythym and keeping the defense guessing. How much play action was called tonight? Also not throwing enough on 1st down, running too often on 2nd and long. But I'll take the win....

[K_C_]

In the NFL you often have to almost throw an INT to be great.

Ben did that for 18 years, threw a lot of picks.

And if you don’t you largely have a very vanilla career, a lot like what we see from Kenward right now.

Yes.

Those 5 picks Levis tried to throw tonight were certainly Hall of Fame worthy

Yep, sorta like inferring it's time to be fitting purdy and his dead arm for a HOF jacket, and thinking his year would end with better passing stats than Rogers last MVP season & more rushing tds than ljs MVP season. Sometimes it's mind boggling .

POST OF THE WEEK!!

Brock Trubisky rules!!

[StillerDownSouth]

Short version: Broderick Jones made a huge difference. Najee Harris thanks you.

Kenny gets away with a win, having thrown basically one terrific pass… again. It’s a theme.

Defense stepped up without Minkah and losing Holcomb. Really sped up Levis’s clock. Levis showed well but ultimately that’s a rookie QB with a beat up OL and not much to work with at receiver. I think he’s going to be good though.

Wish I had thought about rookie QB vs Steelers in PIT factor. 1 win ever vs Mike Tomlin’s teams… could that stat possibly be correct?

1-13 against Tomlin at Heinz field

[RemoAZ]

Canada called a good game and if guys made the plays on the field they should have, routine shit, they put up 30 points.

No he did not. He constantly ran on 2nd to set up 3rd down. I can't remember an aggressive middle of the field pass he called on early downs. Maybe the Austin ball over the middle? Wasn't much. He's still not using the whole field.

I liked Canada's playcalling better in the first half. The run game was working much better in general. You have to admit he's creative in finding new ways to shit the bed in the RZ...the Wildcat was a sun-launching offense.

Kenny was more frustrating tonight even if he did button it up late. I like that he's clutch when it counts, and that he suited up hurt tonight, but like a lot of you I am still not sure he is going to be anything more than the second coming of Bubby Brister. With the turnovers we're generating we would be winning much more convincingly if Pickett could just put a complete game together.

I think he started calling more short, easy throws because of the ones Kenny missed early.

[Steelperch]

In the NFL you often have to almost throw an INT to be great.

Ben did that for 18 years, threw a lot of picks.

And if you don’t you largely have a very vanilla career, a lot like what we see from Kenward right now.

Yes.

Those 5 picks Levis tried to throw tonight were certainly Hall of Fame worthy

Yep, sorta like inferring it's time to be fitting purdy and his dead arm for a HOF jacket, and thinking his year would end with better passing stats than Rogers last MVP season & more rushing tds than ljs MVP season. Sometimes it's mind boggling .

Quite literally nobody here ever said any of that. You Kenny ballwashers sure have to do a lot of gymnastics to try to make a point. Purdy has a better season QB rating than lil Ken has ever had in a single game. And he’s Mr Irrelevant from the same draft class. And you’re angry about that, but not because the Steelers drafted a stiff, you’re mad that others are pointing it out.

[CKSteeler]

Rookie QB's have lit up Tomlin's defenses on the road.

Dick Lebeau legitimately owned rookie QB's, though it was a different era.

[RemoAZ]

Tomlin Presser:
https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1720287457826984128
Lots of really good info and analysis here.



Just kidding. 5 minutes of BS as usual. They are going to bring refs into practice to cut down penalties. Maybe wine and dine them after?

[CKSteeler]

I think he started calling more short, easy throws because of the ones Kenny missed early.

Bingo. The play calling was toned down heavily after that miss. Because the safest and most effective way to attack the Titans defense and get them to change things up schematically failed because the QB couldn't make the throw. Hell, even blame Austin if you want to, though it would have been a tremendous effort if he made the play.

[zeke5123]

It hit him in the hands! Catch it.

Canada is responsible for the sloppiness at the end of the day. Something is amiss in their practices and that is under Canada’s remit.

That pass to Austin hit him in the hands and the stomach and he still somehow dropped it.

1. I never saw a clear replay to tell if that hit Austin or the DB's hands first, and neither did you.
2. It isn't tough for any WR to come to a complete stop and cut back inside and drop to the ground to catch a poorly thrown pass that needs to be dropped in a bucket over your shoulder.

It was a shit ball.

Yeah I thought live the defender got a hand to deflect. Ball was about five yards short. But Kenny defenders will ball wash.

[RemoAZ]

I think he started calling more short, easy throws because of the ones Kenny missed early.

Bingo. The play calling was toned down heavily after that miss. Because the safest and most effective way to attack the Titans defense and get them to change things up schematically failed because the QB couldn't make the throw. Hell, even blame Austin if you want to, though it would have been a tremendous effort if he made the play.

Sometimes you need to make a good catch to help your QB out and get him some confidence. Let's fact it, none of the downfield throws have connected unless Kenny lays it in there perfect. The only contested catches he gets is Pickens on those back shoulder throws. Now they are doubling Pickens and Dionte can't be counted on to make tough catches. Not sure if anyone else has the ability to step up and I think that affects what Canada is calling. That being said, deciding to stop calling plays down the field will only help beat bottom dwellers like the Titans. We're not beating any good teams this way and Kenny isn't going to grow in a dink and dunk offense. Of course, the standard is 9-8 so Tomlin's plan is working as intended.

[14Thumb]

It hit him in the hands! Catch it.

Canada is responsible for the sloppiness at the end of the day. Something is amiss in their practices and that is under Canada’s remit.

That pass to Austin hit him in the hands and the stomach and he still somehow dropped it.

1. I never saw a clear replay to tell if that hit Austin or the DB's hands first, and neither did you.
2. It isn't tough for any WR to come to a complete stop and cut back inside and drop to the ground to catch a poorly thrown pass that needs to be dropped in a bucket over your shoulder.

It was a shit ball.

Apparently KC has better eyes than the rest of us when he can prove his QB threw a tremendous ball. Easy throw that Kenny butchered.

We get it. You like KP. It's ok to be a realist and realize there's a LOT of room for improvement.

[jmacinwbp]

For those who can't understand the purdy comments aren't about ball washing Pickett, they might want to review the "purdy is God" thread, for some context. And BTW, the whole purdy story has been mostly a great one for a mr. irrelevant, playing for a next level offense, & stud filled roster (can't fuckin believe they picked up Young to go with the rest of their edges).

Thinking stats like those in the image below mean anything of historic note, at that point of a season, isn't all that realistic for anyone who has watched years of NFL games, and seen the GOAT & those MVP seasons referred to.



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[Orangesteel]

Purdy, as Mr. Irrelevant, has had a number of really damn good games, and he’s barely lost.

And he went to the NFCCG last season before having his elbow bent backwards.

Kenny has shown nothing so far. Or, if he’s shown you something, perhaps reevaluate what you are looking for in a QB to actually compete for trophies in the current NFL. Don’t forget who your head coach is.

[jmacinwbp]

Purdy, as Mr. Irrelevant, has had a number of really damn good games, and he’s barely lost.

And he went to the NFCCG last season before having his elbow bent backwards.

Kenny has shown nothing so far. Or, if he’s shown you something, perhaps reevaluate what you are looking for in a QB to actually compete for trophies in the current NFL. Don’t forget who your head coach is.

"Purdy, as Mr. Irrelevant, has had a number of really damn good games, and he’s barely lost."

Want to tell me how many more wins all those great stat games this year have netted his team vs the number of wins the Steelers currently have? Is there any doubt which roster has more impact level players on both offense and defense, which team has a better head coach, or OC?

"Kenny has shown nothing so far. Or, if he’s shown you something, perhaps reevaluate what you are looking for in a QB "

I'd disagree. I think the low hanging nutsack he's consistently shown when games are on the line is one of the most important traits to look for in a QB, and can't see how anyone could reasonably argue that the same low hanging nutsack isn't directly related to why the wins number are the same for both teams.

As mentioned, the purdy story has mostly been an amazing one so far, but comparing him vs Pickett, as a way to show how the Steeler royally f'd up by passing on purdy, and taking KP8 without any context for roster or coaching staff seems to be an incredibly biased POV to me.

[Ice]

I admit I only watch the 4th quarter of Steelers games anymore. Spent the first 3 quarters listening to the 71 show on the new Dave's Picks. Really great Other One.

Looked like another fun 4th quarter comeback by Kenny Heisman tonight.

[zeke5123]

I admit I only watch the 4th quarter of Steelers games anymore. Spent the first 3 quarters listening to the 71 show on the new Dave's Picks. Really great Other One.

Looked like another fun 4th quarter comeback by Kenny Heisman tonight.

He had one good pass. It was mostly Warren.

[jeemie]

You can enjoy the Steelers winning and also be critical of Kenny.

He was largely shit. It’s not a good trend.

What is startling is how he still misses a ton of easy throws.

Keep Broderick in and maybe the line will gel a bit. The line has been the worst unit all season.

Yep.

The streak of no 400+ yard game continues…and this time it’s largely on Kenny.

The offensive game plan last night had plenty of potential for 400+ yards and more points…Kenny left those yards and points on the field (with an assist from Pickens).

[LakecrestSteeler]

I admit I only watch the 4th quarter of Steelers games anymore. Spent the first 3 quarters listening to the 71 show on the new Dave's Picks. Really great Other One.

Looked like another fun 4th quarter comeback by Kenny Heisman tonight.

That is a funny thought. Almost like the old line about aliens that do recon through a telescope and see dog owners bagging the poop during the walk. Which species is in charge?

A strict 4th quarter only fan would be prettay prettay prettaaay impressed with KP8; leaving a couple posters on this board asking what the hell are people watching when evaluating!

[LakecrestSteeler]

…liars and statistics….

[franco32]

Wow, that is crazy. Brady and Mahomes is good company.

[bradshaw2ben]

Wow, that is crazy. Brady and Mahomes is good company.

It doesn't go back far enough to include Tim Tebow, or it would.

[Kodiak.]

It doesn't go back far enough to include Tim Tebow, or it would.

I could be encouraged that Q4 is more indicative of his ability when we aren't playing it safe and/or a better OC.

But his putrid play the first 3 quarters clearly goes way beyond the OC and OL. Slow to process, like REALLY slow, and scattershot accuracy over 10 yards.

Two things you have to be able to do well to be a good NFL QB is throwing off platform, and changing your arm angle to find throwing windows. Kenny is practically a 0 out of 10 on both.

[Mick]

Wow, that is crazy. Brady and Mahomes is good company.

It doesn't go back far enough to include Tim Tebow, or it would.

tebow improved up to QB rating of 84 with 53% completion in the 4th quarter. Pickett is a bit over 108 QB rating with 73% completion rating.

I get the ‘increase relative to earlier quarters’ comparison, but there’s no comparison in an absolute sense.

[bradshaw2ben]

Wow, that is crazy. Brady and Mahomes is good company.

It doesn't go back far enough to include Tim Tebow, or it would.

tebow improved up to QB rating of 84 with 53% completion in the 4th quarter. Pickett is a bit over 108 QB rating with 73% completion rating.

I get the ‘increase relative to earlier quarters’ comparison, but there’s no comparison in an absolute sense.

Pickett is 90%+ at throws at or behind the line. And he has an outlier amount of them that skew both his completion percentage and QB rating.

Anyway, my point is: the same arguments used to defend Tim Tebow's play are the go-tos for defending Pickett's play, from clutch/4QComebacks to bad OC to receivers not making plays for him to OL.

[Kodiak.]

Anyway, my point is: the same arguments used to defend Tim Tebow's play are the go-tos for defending Pickett's play, from clutch/4QComebacks to bad OC to receivers not making plays for him to OL.

Here's a crazy thought....what if Canada actually isn't the problem and it's trying to run Tomlin's neanderthal ball with a backup QB that's the main issue? Not saying Canada is good, but Kenny has left more than his share of yards and points on the field.

Remember, Canada is calling the plays in all these Q4 comebacks that sends a tingle down the leg of Kenny ballwashers. As for the counter argument with Ben in 2021 - that OL was even worse and no running game with a QB with virtually no mobility.

[SteelPro]

I’ve seen enough of Pickett to know he will never be elite. He’s not a guy that a team can win a Super Bowl with. With all that said he isn’t as bad as some folks make him out to be. He’s a bottom tier starting QB. Maybe he can improve to mid tier. He’d be an excellent backup. He does have a bit of the clutch gene. I’d feel a whole lot better with him coming in relief for an injured star QB than say Turd Biscuit or Rudolph. But I just don’t see Pickett as the guy to lead us anywhere significant. Of course we don’t have that kind of coach either. So I guess this is the purgatory we will be in for a while.

[Kodiak.]

He’s a bottom tier starting QB.

That's exactly it. And those are guys who shouldn't be starting. Some, like you said, can be top backups.

I'm not optimistic that Kenny halfway through Yr2 after 5 years in college is going to improve even marginally. Maybe he can improve on his processing and reads, but again he's not really a young, inexperienced QB. And there's nothing he can do to improve his arm talent, which is pretty limited.

I think if Kenny didn't play for Pitt there'd be exactly one poster still swinging from his nuts while everyone else would want to move on.

Just wait until they crack open the ATM for Kenny's C2 and we can't afford the highest paid defense in the league any more....

[Orangesteel]

Anyway, my point is: the same arguments used to defend Tim Tebow's play are the go-tos for defending Pickett's play, from clutch/4QComebacks to bad OC to receivers not making plays for him to OL.

Here's a crazy thought....what if Canada actually isn't the problem and it's trying to run Tomlin's neanderthal ball with a backup QB that's the main issue? Not saying Canada is good, but Kenny has left more than his share of yards and points on the field.

Remember, Canada is calling the plays in all these Q4 comebacks that sends a tingle down the leg of Kenny ballwashers. As for the counter argument with Ben in 2021 - that OL was even worse and no running game with a QB with virtually no mobility.

After last night this is percent where I am at. Is Tomlin’s patented NHALSballz offense but there are points/yards out there.

Go back to the broadcast on the first drive Canada called a screen pass and there was a TON of room there. Kenny drifted to his right and his pass got knocked down.

Camera pans to Canada and he was irate.

Canada is not good. Nowhere near a premier OC. But there are opportunities there and our players are fucking up. DJ drops, Pickens can’t toe drag, etc.

Biggest issue is Kenny.