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one-score records...afc contenders

Post by swissvale72 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:56 am

For the hell of it....records in one score games for AFC teams with .500 or better record:

Dolphins 2-1
Bills 2-5

Steelers 6-0
Browns 3-2
Bengals 3-2
Ravnes 3-3

Jaguars 2-1
Texans 3-2
Colts 3-2

Chiefs 4-1
Raiders 4-2



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Post by jebrick » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:26 pm

With how the Steelers play it is one turn of luck for that to be 0-6
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Post by Texas Black & Gold » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:31 pm

Not all of it is luck. It's becoming part of the Steelers DNA. :D
NHALS secured. Check.
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:39 pm

Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:31 pm
Not all of it is luck. It's becoming part of the Steelers DNA. :D
I give all the credit to winning these close games to Tomlin

Absent his genius we could have easily lost all 6

#wearefortunatetohavehim

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:55 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:39 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:31 pm
Not all of it is luck. It's becoming part of the Steelers DNA. :D
I give all the credit to winning these close games to Tomlin

Absent his genius we could have easily lost all 6

#wearefortunatetohavehim
I hate Tomlin like a motherfucker but how fast did it take Belichick to compete for the 1st pick in the entire draft after Brady left?

Belichick's "genius" ended up being Brady all along.
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Post by Deebo » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:56 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:55 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:39 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:31 pm
Not all of it is luck. It's becoming part of the Steelers DNA. :D
I give all the credit to winning these close games to Tomlin

Absent his genius we could have easily lost all 6

#wearefortunatetohavehim
I hate Tomlin like a motherfucker but how fast did it take Belichick to compete for the 1st pick in the entire draft after Brady left?

Belichick's "genius" ended up being Brady all along.
And also having the answers to the test....

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:58 pm

Deebo wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:56 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:55 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:39 pm


I give all the credit to winning these close games to Tomlin

Absent his genius we could have easily lost all 6

#wearefortunatetohavehim
I hate Tomlin like a motherfucker but how fast did it take Belichick to compete for the 1st pick in the entire draft after Brady left?

Belichick's "genius" ended up being Brady all along.
And also having the answers to the test....
Yep.
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Post by Jobu » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:04 pm

I’ll be honest, I’m becoming a believer. Somehow, someway, week after week Tomlin’s team is able to drag their opponent down into the muck, wrestle around for 60 minutes and rise out of it with their arm raised.
It works…until it doesn’t.
We’ll deal with the “it doesn’t” when the time comes, I guess.

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Post by Steel Ubaldo » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:30 pm

The Steelers style of play is infuriating to watch. I have a hard time getting through a game before becoming so supremely frustrated it loses all entertainment value for me.

However, it has been effective in terms of wins and losses, . I think it’s fool’s gold and the regression will happen in the second half. However, your record is what it says it is. Tomlin and company deserve credit for that.

I do fear that there is a strong component of averechts Involved with this season. As a result of all this early success, Canada is safe. No meaningful changes will be made to improve the team overall in the off-season.

With that said, we can just hope that the statistical anomaly of total perfection in one score games continues until infinity and beyond! 8-)

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Post by jebrick » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:46 pm

Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:30 pm
The Steelers style of play is infuriating to watch. I have a hard time getting through a game before becoming so supremely frustrated it loses all entertainment value for me.

However, it has been effective in terms of wins and losses, . I think it’s fool’s gold and the regression will happen in the second half. However, your record is what it says it is. Tomlin and company deserve credit for that.

I do fear that there is a strong component of averechts Involved with this season. As a result of all this early success, Canada is safe. No meaningful changes will be made to improve the team overall in the off-season.

With that said, we can just hope that the statistical anomaly of total perfection in one score games continues until infinity and beyond! 8-)
There comments take me back to the Cowher days ( pre Ben). Just different players but the same things being said week in and week out.
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Post by 955876 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:00 pm

Ok great.

Now tell me how we can keep a playoff game against the Chiefs, Dolphins, Texans etc. within 1 score.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:01 pm

jebrick wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:46 pm
Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:30 pm
The Steelers style of play is infuriating to watch. I have a hard time getting through a game before becoming so supremely frustrated it loses all entertainment value for me.

However, it has been effective in terms of wins and losses, . I think it’s fool’s gold and the regression will happen in the second half. However, your record is what it says it is. Tomlin and company deserve credit for that.

I do fear that there is a strong component of averechts Involved with this season. As a result of all this early success, Canada is safe. No meaningful changes will be made to improve the team overall in the off-season.

With that said, we can just hope that the statistical anomaly of total perfection in one score games continues until infinity and beyond! 8-)
There comments take me back to the Cowher days ( pre Ben). Just different players but the same things being said week in and week out.
History may not repeat... but it does rhyme.
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Post by Pabst » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:16 pm

Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:30 pm
I do fear that there is a strong component of averechts Involved with this season. As a result of all this early success, Canada is safe. No meaningful changes will be made to improve the team overall in the off-season.
FWIW, Haley was let go after the team finished 13-3, boasted a top-5 offense, and had made (at least) the divisional round of the playoffs three straight years.

Canada has been at the helm for an historic run of offensive ineptitude and the team hasn't sniffed post season success. His contract is up after this season.

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Post by Smashmouth21 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:24 pm

If you want to call any team a fraud, look no further than the Dolphins. They have not beaten one good team. All those yards and points scored mean nothing. Lost to every quality team they’ve faced.

Bills also showing how not taking care of the ball affects the win/loss record.

Jags just played the Niners about as good as the Steelers did.

Ravens blowing fourth quarter leads like some of you do Colin Cowherd and Mark Madden.

Grass isn’t always greener.

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Post by Texas Black & Gold » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:38 pm

955876 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:00 pm
Ok great.

Now tell me how we can keep a playoff game against the Chiefs, Dolphins, Texans etc. within 1 score.
At the very least you must take away there strongest weapon. And play a perfect game. Then hope things break your way.

It will be a challenge no doubt.
NHALS secured. Check.
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
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Post by Texas Black & Gold » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:40 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:39 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:31 pm
Not all of it is luck. It's becoming part of the Steelers DNA. :D
I give all the credit to winning these close games to Tomlin

Absent his genius we could have easily lost all 6

#wearefortunatetohavehim
Tomlin deserves some credit but not all the credit. It is a team sport.
NHALS secured. Check.
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
Here We Go Steelers

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Post by Smashmouth21 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:41 pm

Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:38 pm
955876 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:00 pm
Ok great.

Now tell me how we can keep a playoff game against the Chiefs, Dolphins, Texans etc. within 1 score.
At the very least you must take away there strongest weapon. And play a perfect game. Then hope things break your way.

It will be a challenge no doubt.
Name one good team the Dolphins have beat… I’ll wait with bated breath. All of those teams are flawed. The best thing going for the Steelers this year is that there are no truly great teams in the NFL.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:43 pm

Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:40 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:39 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:31 pm
Not all of it is luck. It's becoming part of the Steelers DNA. :D
I give all the credit to winning these close games to Tomlin

Absent his genius we could have easily lost all 6

#wearefortunatetohavehim
Tomlin deserves some credit but not all the credit. It is a team sport.
Does he get the credit for Minkah calling a diff defensive play on the last play of the game?

How fucking pathetic is it that a player overrules a DC who is a Tomlin underling?

Shitshow

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:14 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:43 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:40 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:39 pm


I give all the credit to winning these close games to Tomlin

Absent his genius we could have easily lost all 6

#wearefortunatetohavehim
Tomlin deserves some credit but not all the credit. It is a team sport.
Does he get the credit for Minkah calling a diff defensive play on the last play of the game?

How fucking pathetic is it that a player overrules a DC who is a Tomlin underling?

Shitshow
You know, there's another way of looking at the final play of the game, right?

Fitzpatrick told Austin not to play man (Austin probably wanted to send pressure vs the rookie QB, which is understandable. The last thing you want is a QB standing back there for 5 seconds with time to survey the whole field.) Fitzpatrick was animated and you know what?

Austin could have pulled rank on Minkah and could have told him to shut the fuck up.

....but he didn't. At some point, Austin (I doubt Tomlin was involved in this call. I didn't see him near Austin and Fitzpatrick although I might have missed him) must have said to FItzpatrick; "You're right."

Minkah doesn't have the power to "overrule" a fucking coach.

Austin didn't need to listen to Minkah but he did. I'm sure plenty of hard ass coaches would have told 39 to sit the fuck down and to leave the coaching to him.

But he went with what Minkah wanted and I guarantee you, the players are going to remember that.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:23 pm

That of course is one way of looking at it

I look at it this way

Texans had 59 seconds to drive the field

They got within 15/16 yards of doing it

So whatever Austin was calling up to that point sure wasn’t working

Now I get that the players have to make plays….but

My personal perspective is that both our coordinators blow and perhaps players are tired of it

See also - Okorafor speaking out about play calling

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:31 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:23 pm
That of course is one way of looking at it

I look at it this way

Texans had 59 seconds to drive the field

They got within 15/16 yards of doing it

So whatever Austin was calling up to that point sure wasn’t working

Now I get that the players have to make plays….but

My personal perspective is that both our coordinators blow and perhaps players are tired of it

See also - Okorafor speaking out about play calling
The running game began to click once that useless fuck Okorafor was replaced by Broderick Jones.

That motherfucker has NO ROOM to talk about play calling or really any aspect of an NFL game.

Okorafor is not only a paycheck thief, he's a fuckin oxygen thief.

Also, while it's true that Green Bay moved the ball, the Steelers are 6-0 in one score games this year.

They're pretty fucking good at shutting you down when they absolutely have to.

Also you have to acknowledge that the defense is pretty banged up now up the middle.

Cole Holcomb and Kwon Alexander were playing GREAT this year. Both are gone for the season.

Minkah Fitzpatrick, only the best safety/center fielder in the entire NFL, isn't on the field.

Other guys stepped up but it wasn't pretty because it never, ever is with this team.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:55 pm

Meh

49ers and Texans blew our doors off w all three playing

Minkah
Holcomb
Alexander

Timely turnovers have willed us to wins

Great but hard to count on

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Post by Quixotic » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:00 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:14 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:43 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:40 pm

Tomlin deserves some credit but not all the credit. It is a team sport.
Does he get the credit for Minkah calling a diff defensive play on the last play of the game?

How fucking pathetic is it that a player overrules a DC who is a Tomlin underling?

Shitshow
You know, there's another way of looking at the final play of the game, right?

Fitzpatrick told Austin not to play man (Austin probably wanted to send pressure vs the rookie QB, which is understandable. The last thing you want is a QB standing back there for 5 seconds with time to survey the whole field.) Fitzpatrick was animated and you know what?

Austin could have pulled rank on Minkah and could have told him to shut the fuck up.

....but he didn't. At some point, Austin (I doubt Tomlin was involved in this call. I didn't see him near Austin and Fitzpatrick although I might have missed him) must have said to FItzpatrick; "You're right."

Minkah doesn't have the power to "overrule" a fucking coach.

Austin didn't need to listen to Minkah but he did. I'm sure plenty of hard ass coaches would have told 39 to sit the fuck down and to leave the coaching to him.

But he went with what Minkah wanted and I guarantee you, the players are going to remember that.
Minkah is one of the smartest defensive football minds I’ve ever seen. He’s like having Tony Dungy back there, except with athletic ability. Anyone who doesn’t at least listen to him in a game-on-the-line situation is a megalomaniacal moron.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:09 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:55 pm
Meh

49ers and Texans blew our doors off w all three playing

Minkah
Holcomb
Alexander

Timely turnovers have willed us to wins

Great but hard to count on
The 49ers are one of the best teams in the league. Easily the most talented and it isn’t even close.

They are elite at basically every position on the field except they too are breaking in a 2nd year QB.

As talented as the Niners are, they have just as many losses as the Steelers, unless I’m mistaken.

…..and big plays from the Niners defense has helped them win plenty of games.
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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:47 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:23 pm
That of course is one way of looking at it

I look at it this way

Texans had 59 seconds to drive the field

They got within 15/16 yards of doing it

So whatever Austin was calling up to that point sure wasn’t working

Now I get that the players have to make plays….but

My personal perspective is that both our coordinators blow and perhaps players are tired of it

See also - Okorafor speaking out about play calling
Yeah, but they needed those final 15/16 yards to score, and win the game.....and didn't fuckin' get it!! This is reminiscent of Santonio didn't catch the first endzone pass in SB XLIII

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Post by Deebo » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:56 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:14 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:43 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:40 pm

Tomlin deserves some credit but not all the credit. It is a team sport.
Does he get the credit for Minkah calling a diff defensive play on the last play of the game?

How fucking pathetic is it that a player overrules a DC who is a Tomlin underling?

Shitshow
You know, there's another way of looking at the final play of the game, right?

Fitzpatrick told Austin not to play man (Austin probably wanted to send pressure vs the rookie QB, which is understandable. The last thing you want is a QB standing back there for 5 seconds with time to survey the whole field.) Fitzpatrick was animated and you know what?

Austin could have pulled rank on Minkah and could have told him to shut the fuck up.

....but he didn't. At some point, Austin (I doubt Tomlin was involved in this call. I didn't see him near Austin and Fitzpatrick although I might have missed him) must have said to FItzpatrick; "You're right."

Minkah doesn't have the power to "overrule" a fucking coach.

Austin didn't need to listen to Minkah but he did. I'm sure plenty of hard ass coaches would have told 39 to sit the fuck down and to leave the coaching to him.

But he went with what Minkah wanted and I guarantee you, the players are going to remember that.
Here's further context though: the Steelers were down to a practice squad guy in their secondary. Why in the fuck would you think to even call man coverage with guys who are barely in the league?

How they came to the conclusion in the first place is frighteningly dumb

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Post by drmalba » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:16 pm

Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:31 pm
Not all of it is luck. It's becoming part of the Steelers DNA. :D
Pretty sure that's what the Vikings said last year.

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Post by Deebo » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:32 pm

drmalba wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:16 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:31 pm
Not all of it is luck. It's becoming part of the Steelers DNA. :D
Pretty sure that's what the Vikings said last year.
I read an article on ESPN about this very topic before the season started. The writer referenced the Vikes likely to come crashing down this season. I'll see if I can find it.
Here are the main points:

- Historically, teams that have a bunch of 1 score wins in 1 year are due for a major regression the following year. Witness the Steelers in 2020 vs 2021
- Turnovers (committing them or causing them) generally are not repeatable year to year. Again, beware the team that causes a ton of turnovers in 1 year as it'll not likely to happen the next

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:36 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:43 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:40 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:39 pm


I give all the credit to winning these close games to Tomlin

Absent his genius we could have easily lost all 6

#wearefortunatetohavehim
Tomlin deserves some credit but not all the credit. It is a team sport.
Does he get the credit for Minkah calling a diff defensive play on the last play of the game?

How fucking pathetic is it that a player overrules a DC who is a Tomlin underling?

Shitshow
That is a talking out of both sides of your mouth comment.

To me, that shows maturity, collaboration, and if they were able to get that idea onto the field that quickly, orchestration, and says Austin is a pretty good coach in my opinion based on that transaction of events.

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Post by Smashmouth21 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:41 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:36 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:43 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:40 pm

Tomlin deserves some credit but not all the credit. It is a team sport.
Does he get the credit for Minkah calling a diff defensive play on the last play of the game?

How fucking pathetic is it that a player overrules a DC who is a Tomlin underling?

Shitshow
That is a talking out of both sides of your mouth comment.

To me, that shows maturity, collaboration, and if they were able to get that idea onto the field that quickly, orchestration, and says Austin is a pretty good coach in my opinion based on that transaction of events.
Agree. Much crazier shit goes down in the heat of competition.

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