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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:58 pm

The injuries are his fault!
The shitty talent is his fault!
The shitty practice this week is his fault!
The shitty decisions are his fault!
His shitty decisions on player and coaching talent are his fault!

Force this football malpractice out the door!



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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:59 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:58 pm
The injuries are his fault!
The shitty talent is his fault!
The shitty practice this week is his fault!
The shitty decisions are his fault!
His shitty decisions on player and coaching talent are his fault!

Force this football malpractice out the door!
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Post by Kodiak. » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:01 pm

His team and coaches. Has been for a long time.

Get used to 1 playoff win every 4-5 years.
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Post by Smashmouth21 » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:21 pm

Bad game by Tomlin. Sloppy coaching. Too many presnap penalties and wasted TOs. Hard to judge the game plan given the way the contest unfolded.

The players sucked too. Didn’t execute the simple things. Injuries hamstrung already depleted units.

Nealry all the bounces went Arizona’s way. It was one of those games.

Silver lining is that it was a loss to a NFC team. But the margin for error gets slimmer.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:27 pm

Smashmouth21 wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:21 pm
Bad game by Tomlin. Sloppy coaching. Too many presnap penalties and wasted TOs. Hard to judge the game plan given the way the contest unfolded.

The players sucked too. Didn’t execute the simple things. Injuries hamstrung already depleted units.

Nealry all the bounces went Arizona’s way. It was one of those games.

Silver lining is that it was a loss to a NFC team. But the margin for error gets slimmer.
These injuries are on Tomlin! They have been happening all year for the last decade. He needs to be pushed out and we need to go a new way!

He was just completely bitch slapped by Conner who represents all that is wrong with this organization. They chose to get rid of Conner, and waste a number 1 pick on Harris. Conner still essentially leads the league or is top 3 in yards per game. So we waste a #1 pick on Harris and could have kept Conner. We have Warren and Conner right now with an all world center and this would have been a blow out!

Conner is a bitch slap and anyone who doesn’t see that needs a smelling salt. Tomlin, scouting, philosophy, development, and ownership all bitch slapped!
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Post by Steelperch » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm

If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!

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Post by Jizz Mop » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:31 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
Amen

I’m turning 60 next year

I want a new coach before dementia sets in and I’m asking for Stallworth to make a play

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Post by RemoAZ » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:31 pm

This is Tomlin's MO. They will always be a basic, vanilla team that wins on great individual play while limiting mistakes. That will keep them close in most games no matter how good or bad the competition is. He'll never be able to out coach anyone including exploiting weaknesses to blow out another team. He will occasionally get blown out when the other team doesn't make any mistakes and his team has zero individual "splash" plays again, no matter how good or bad the other team is. When it comes to needing a big time game plan to beat a good team in the playoffs, Tomlin will fall flat on his face as he has no ability to come up with anything and of course, he refuses to higher top notch coordinators that could do it for him. We've seen this same pattern play out so many times there's no denying it will never change. We are stuck with no chance at a championship contender until he's gone. And that my friends fucking sucks.
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Post by rooneytunes » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:37 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:31 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
Amen

I’m turning 60 next year

I want a new coach before dementia sets in and I’m asking for Stallworth to make a play
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Post by RemoAZ » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:38 pm

Howard Griffith had to resort to chop-blocking him during the 1997 AFC Championship Game. An incredulous Kirkland asked Griffith, “Why do you have to use cheap tactics like chop-blocking?” Griffith replied “Why do you have to be a 300-pound linebacker?”

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Post by Obviously » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:39 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
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Post by langer » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:39 pm

He would get hired immediately!!!
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Post by Obviously » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:40 pm

RemoAZ wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:31 pm
This is Tomlin's MO. They will always be a basic, vanilla team that wins on great individual play while limiting mistakes. That will keep them close in most games no matter how good or bad the competition is. He'll never be able to out coach anyone including exploiting weaknesses to blow out another team. He will occasionally get blown out when the other team doesn't make any mistakes and his team has zero individual "splash" plays again, no matter how good or bad the other team is. When it comes to needing a big time game plan to beat a good team in the playoffs, Tomlin will fall flat on his face as he has no ability to come up with anything and of course, he refuses to high to notch coordinators that could do it for him. We've seen this same pattern play out so many times there's no denying it will never change. We are stuck with no chance at a championship contender until he's gone. And that my friends fucking sucks.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:40 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
The sad part is I watched the Super Bowl XIII last night, and this offense, even with Pickett is not that far off from that seventies offense. If they just embraced the talent they have and run Harris and Blier then hit Grossman or Cunningham with a splash of Stallworth and Sawnn to keep the defense honest… it could easily be Harris and Warren, Muuth and Washington….upgrade at Center and swap DJ in the draft or FA and we could move to a top 1/3 offense. I realize Pickens and DJ are not Swann and Stallworth, but Pickens has enough talent to be one of them.

But they won’t embrace what they have and get Warren and Harris on the field at the same time because it is 2023 NFL. Bradshaw’s offense was so well balanced and any offense as balanced as that will work in any era. The playbook and path are in the damn office Tomlin…go do some homework!

Hard to believe Bradshaw had 2 (correction) turnovers, and still got MVP!

Great quality link…watch the offense and sub in our offensive players and it wouldn’t take much. Notice the over throws by TB and then the moonball dimes!


https://youtu.be/ICEYy4l3G8g?si=LC0qUUlaHJoqp-6r
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Post by Obviously » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:40 pm

langer wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:39 pm
He would get hired immediately!!!
That's awesome! Let him fuck some other team up. Immediately.
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Post by Obviously » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:47 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:40 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
The sad part is I watched the Super Bowl XIII last night, and this offense, even with Pickett is not that far off from that seventies offense. If they just embraced the talent they have and run Harris and Blier then hit Grossman or Cunningham with a splash of Stallworth and Sawnn to keep the defense honest… it could easily be Harris and Warren, Muuth and Washington….upgrade at Center and swap DJ in the draft or FA and we could move to a top 1/3 offense. I realize Pickens and DJ are not Swann and Stallworth, but Pickens has enough talent to be one of them.

But they won’t embrace what they have and get Warren and Harris on the field at the same time because it is 2023 NFL. Bradshaw’s offense was so well balanced and any offense as balanced as that will work in any era. The playbook and path are in the damn office Tomlin…go do some homework!

Hard to believe Bradshaw had 3 turnovers, and still got MVP!

Great quality link…watch the offense and sub in our offensive players and it wouldn’t take much. Notice the over throws by TB and then the moonball dimes!


https://youtu.be/ICEYy4l3G8g?si=LC0qUUlaHJoqp-6r
If you were watching a replay of a Super Bowl where the real TB12 had three turnovers and got MVP then you were watching SB XIV vs. Rams not SB XIII vs. Cowboys.

As far as your comparison goes, not a one of these clowns on offense can compare to the '79 squad. You should have started with the offensive line led by one of the greatest centers of all time in Mike Webster, and the comparisons would die there.
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Post by Steeldrama » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:52 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:31 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
I want a new coach before dementia sets in and I’m asking for Stallworth to make a play
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Post by BethlehemSteel » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:52 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
Yes, as I alluded to in game thread

There is nothing any steeler fan can say that can dispute it

I hope there is a meeting of the ownership group to decide to not offer a contract / get Rooney to wake up / and “retire”
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We deserve current age offensive coach while preserving a strong defense.
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Post by stillthere » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:56 pm

langer wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:39 pm
He would get hired immediately!!!
Then trade him.

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Post by Steelperch » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:58 pm

If Rooney had balls (he doesn’t)

He’d pump up Mike Tomlin in public, talk about what a great leader of men he is, then shop him in the off-season. Some poverty franchise would love to give a round 1 pick for Tomlin. Publicly just say it’s time and the franchise wants to shift to a more offensive philosophy. Get the hottest shot young OC you can find as the next HC and let him draft the next QB.

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:59 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:58 pm
If Rooney had balls (he doesn’t)

He’d pump up Mike Tomlin in public, talk about what a great leader of men he is, then shop him in the off-season. Some poverty franchise would love to give a round 1 pick for Tomlin. Publicly just say it’s time and the franchise wants to shift to a more offensive philosophy. Get the hottest shot young OC you can find as the next HC and let him draft the next QB.
This is best PR way to do it too. Rooney needs a visit from the syndicate lol
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:01 pm

Obviously wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:47 pm
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:40 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
The sad part is I watched the Super Bowl XIII last night, and this offense, even with Pickett is not that far off from that seventies offense. If they just embraced the talent they have and run Harris and Blier then hit Grossman or Cunningham with a splash of Stallworth and Sawnn to keep the defense honest… it could easily be Harris and Warren, Muuth and Washington….upgrade at Center and swap DJ in the draft or FA and we could move to a top 1/3 offense. I realize Pickens and DJ are not Swann and Stallworth, but Pickens has enough talent to be one of them.

But they won’t embrace what they have and get Warren and Harris on the field at the same time because it is 2023 NFL. Bradshaw’s offense was so well balanced and any offense as balanced as that will work in any era. The playbook and path are in the damn office Tomlin…go do some homework!

Hard to believe Bradshaw had 3 turnovers, and still got MVP!

Great quality link…watch the offense and sub in our offensive players and it wouldn’t take much. Notice the over throws by TB and then the moonball dimes!


https://youtu.be/ICEYy4l3G8g?si=LC0qUUlaHJoqp-6r
If you were watching a replay of a Super Bowl where the real TB12 had three turnovers and got MVP then you were watching SB XIV vs. Rams not SB XIII vs. Cowboys.

As far as your comparison goes, not a one of these clowns on offense can compare to the '79 squad. You should have started with the offensive line led by one of the greatest centers of all time in Mike Webster, and the comparisons would die there.
My bad. He had an INT and a fumble…I had just watched the AFC championship game against Houston and then SBXIII and I think I conflated one the turnovers there. They played Dallas back to back I believe and Houston back to back and then throw in the 79 season goes into 1980 and I would never want Steelers stats and dates as a topic on Jeopardy!

I did…hence the upgrade at center comment. The trap offense would work again in 2023 with Warren and Harris.

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Post by Orangesteel » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:01 pm

BethlehemSteel wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:52 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
Yes, as I alluded to in game thread

There is nothing any steeler fan can say that can dispute it

I hope there is a meeting of the ownership group to decide to not offer a contract / get Rooney to wake up / and “retire”
Soft Mike

We deserve current age offensive coach while preserving a strong defense.
I caught the Steelers vs. Cardinals SB on Friday evening.

It’s amazing how close he came to blowing that game as well.

Now the hero is gone, dropped the cape. And Tomlin is who he is; a total fucking fraud.
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Post by BethlehemSteel » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:02 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:01 pm
BethlehemSteel wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:52 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
Yes, as I alluded to in game thread

There is nothing any steeler fan can say that can dispute it

I hope there is a meeting of the ownership group to decide to not offer a contract / get Rooney to wake up / and “retire”
Soft Mike

We deserve current age offensive coach while preserving a strong defense.
I caught the Steelers vs. Cardinals SB on Friday evening.

It’s amazing how close he came to blowing that game as well.

Now the hero is gone, dropped the cape. And Tomlin is who he is; a total fucking fraud.
I was too and I was also examining the what if and how close we came to having her slip away
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Post by StillerDownSouth » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:04 pm

Kodiak. wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:01 pm
His team and coaches. Has been for a long time.

Get used to 1 playoff win every 4-5 years.

They won't win another playoff game with Cool Shades at the helm.

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Post by StillerDownSouth » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:06 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:28 pm
If not for inheriting Ben, Lebeau and a legendary defense Tomlin is Marvin Lewis at best. His time has passed. I’d like to see a 4th Steelers Head coach in my lifetime. And an offensive mind at that!
I'd love to see the 4th in my lifetime as well, but an offensive minded one won't get hired by the dope in charge.

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Post by Steeldrama » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:07 pm

StillerDownSouth wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:04 pm

They won't win another playoff game with Cool Shades at the helm
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Post by anpsteel » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:08 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:27 pm
Smashmouth21 wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:21 pm
Bad game by Tomlin. Sloppy coaching. Too many presnap penalties and wasted TOs. Hard to judge the game plan given the way the contest unfolded.

The players sucked too. Didn’t execute the simple things. Injuries hamstrung already depleted units.

Nealry all the bounces went Arizona’s way. It was one of those games.

Silver lining is that it was a loss to a NFC team. But the margin for error gets slimmer.
These injuries are on Tomlin! They have been happening all year for the last decade. He needs to be pushed out and we need to go a new way!

He was just completely bitch slapped by Conner who represents all that is wrong with this organization. They chose to get rid of Conner, and waste a number 1 pick on Harris. Conner still essentially leads the league or is top 3 in yards per game. So we waste a #1 pick on Harris and could have kept Conner. We have Warren and Conner right now with an all world center and this would have been a blow out!

Conner is a bitch slap and anyone who doesn’t see that needs a smelling salt. Tomlin, scouting, philosophy, development, and ownership all bitch slapped!
I agree on the James Connor point

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Post by RemoAZ » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:08 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:58 pm
If Rooney had balls (he doesn’t)

He’d pump up Mike Tomlin in public, talk about what a great leader of men he is, then shop him in the off-season. Some poverty franchise would love to give a round 1 pick for Tomlin. Publicly just say it’s time and the franchise wants to shift to a more offensive philosophy. Get the hottest shot young OC you can find as the next HC and let him draft the next QB.
That's my dread scenario. To someone like Washington for their 1st and we get the QB of the future and another OT. Grab a stud center in the 2nd and we're off to the races.
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Post by StillerDownSouth » Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:10 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:58 pm
If Rooney had balls (he doesn’t)

He’d pump up Mike Tomlin in public, talk about what a great leader of men he is, then shop him in the off-season. Some poverty franchise would love to give a round 1 pick for Tomlin. Publicly just say it’s time and the franchise wants to shift to a more offensive philosophy. Get the hottest shot young OC you can find as the next HC and let him draft the next QB.

This is exactly what the Pats are about to do with Bill, if you can do it to a 6 time super winning coach, the Steelers can damn sure do the same with Tomlin.

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