Kozora Tweet…Pickett’s injury is “serious”…will miss “extended period of time”

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Re: Kozora Tweet…Pickett’s injury is “serious”…will miss “extended period of time”

Post by Jobu » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:34 am

steelmann58 wrote:
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Offense is bad now will be worse with mitch
No it won’t.


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Post by Steelperch » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:36 am

It’s very fitting this is the play Kenny Pickett got hurt on. Never came off his primary read. Had Calvin Austin uncovered WIDE THE FUCK OPEN for a walk in TD. Decides to run instead. Broke his freakin ankle. But hey, it was 3-3 when he went out. :lol:

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Post by tbsteel » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:38 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:36 am
It’s very fitting this is the play Kenny Pickett got hurt on. Never came off his primary read. Had Calvin Austin uncovered WIDE THE FUCK OPEN for a walk in TD. Decides to run instead. Broke his freakin ankle. But hey, it was 3-3 when he went out. :lol:

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But Perch, it was a really impressive 3 points.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:39 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:36 am
It’s very fitting this is the play Kenny Pickett got hurt on. Never came off his primary read. Had Calvin Austin uncovered WIDE THE FUCK OPEN for a walk in TD. Decides to run instead. Broke his freakin ankle. But hey, it was 3-3 when he went out. :lol:

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Is that The Outlier and Fry running same route, one in front of the other?

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Post by tbsteel » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:39 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:36 am
It’s very fitting this is the play Kenny Pickett got hurt on. Never came off his primary read. Had Calvin Austin uncovered WIDE THE FUCK OPEN for a walk in TD. Decides to run instead. Broke his freakin ankle. But hey, it was 3-3 when he went out. :lol:

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Kenny can't read the field, has spotty accuracy, doesn't have a great arm, and can't really run it.

Other than that, he's doing okay.
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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:39 am

Can't watch and root for losses but as I sit here now, best scenario is lose out and either trade or fire Tomlin. Second best is force him to fire his whole staff (which hopefully makes him quit) and have Khan in on who they replace them with. No Tomlin buddies to be interviewed. Let's hope something positive comes out of this.
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Post by swissvale72 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:41 am

Nice to know we'll be "less boring." Personally, I found none of the Steelers 7 one score wins this season to be boring

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Post by 955876 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:41 am

Nice example of why we’ve been chirping about his lack of TDs.

Not because we don’t like running TDs too. Duh.

But because a 1st round pick needs to make these reads and throws.

Had he, he wouldn’t be out with a busted ankle and we would have had more points on the board.
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Post by jeemie » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:43 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:36 am
It’s very fitting this is the play Kenny Pickett got hurt on. Never came off his primary read. Had Calvin Austin uncovered WIDE THE FUCK OPEN for a walk in TD. Decides to run instead. Broke his freakin ankle. But hey, it was 3-3 when he went out. :lol:

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How Calvin Austin is not his primary read pre-snap I will never know.

The Cards are in obvious zone and assuming Kenny knows the routes that will be run, it is clear as crystal before the snap that any defenders that can get to Austin will be run off by receivers coming into their space.

The route was open from jump.
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Post by tbsteel » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:44 am

swissvale72 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:41 am
Nice to know we'll be "less boring." Personally, I found none of the Steelers 7 one score wins this season to be boring
He's posting with a five hour long waterlogged ass, so it's TBD if he's in a right frame of mind or not. Mods, please add warning to all of his posts until proper studies can be completed.
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Post by langer » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:45 am

Does he actually know how to play the position?

It seems he has difficulty.

What is that QB coach doing? This is the result?
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:48 am

swissvale72 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:41 am
Nice to know we'll be "less boring." Personally, I found none of the Steelers 7 one score wins this season to be boring
Was that you punching some guy in the upper level today ?

https://x.com/cieramillerr/status/17314 ... 32773?s=46
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Post by Works At A Bank » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:49 am

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What a stupid, pointless season from Kenny Pickett.
So far that’s all the kid has to offer. Stupid and pointless

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Post by Steelperch » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:49 am

jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:43 am
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:36 am
It’s very fitting this is the play Kenny Pickett got hurt on. Never came off his primary read. Had Calvin Austin uncovered WIDE THE FUCK OPEN for a walk in TD. Decides to run instead. Broke his freakin ankle. But hey, it was 3-3 when he went out. :lol:

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How Calvin Austin is not his primary read pre-snap I will never know.

The Cards are in obvious zone and assuming Kenny knows the routes that I’ll be run, it is clear as Crystal before the snap that any defenders that can get to Austin will be run off by receivers coming into their space.

The route was open from jump.
This is the exact type of play I see other teams run around the league every week and am jealous of. Receiver schemed wide open vs a zone. Easy dump off and score. Kenny never looked at him, had no reason to run the ball. This is a weekly occurrence with a Kenny in the redzone, they actually call a good play and have somebody wide the hell open, he never even looks at them. The guy is 25 and racking up overtime hours in his cubicle. No reason he shouldn’t be locating the right receivers by now.

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Post by jeemie » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:53 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:49 am
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:43 am
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:36 am
It’s very fitting this is the play Kenny Pickett got hurt on. Never came off his primary read. Had Calvin Austin uncovered WIDE THE FUCK OPEN for a walk in TD. Decides to run instead. Broke his freakin ankle. But hey, it was 3-3 when he went out. :lol:

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How Calvin Austin is not his primary read pre-snap I will never know.

The Cards are in obvious zone and assuming Kenny knows the routes that I’ll be run, it is clear as Crystal before the snap that any defenders that can get to Austin will be run off by receivers coming into their space.

The route was open from jump.
This is the exact type of play I see other teams run around the league every week and am jealous of. Receiver schemed wide open vs a zone. Easy dump off and score. Kenny never looked at him, had no reason to run the ball. This is a weekly occurrence with a Kenny in the redzone, they actually call a good play and have somebody wide the hell open, he never even looks at them. The guy is 25 and racking up overtime hours in his cubicle. No reason he shouldn’t be locating the right receivers by now.
What’s especially sad about this is I think Kenny may have actually looked that way for a split second.

But he shouldn’t have been looking anywhere else. Pre-snap, knowing the routes, that’s the only route that will be obviously wide open.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:56 am

langer wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:16 am
It's as if he doesn't want to do the job or something.

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Kenny Pickett in 24 career starts…
• Games with multiple TD passes: 1
• Games with passer rating higher than 100: 1
• Games with more than 300 yards passing: 1
• Games in which he’s left with an injury: 4
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Circa April 28 2022 KP drafted thread:
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according to the moron's at nflnetwork.com

NFL Comparison
Andy Dalton (in prime years)

our very own red ryder b-b gun... :lol:
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Asinine post
This didn’t age well. Maybe the assclown puppets over at nfl network were over estimating him?

Question going forward is, What to do now?

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Post by Steelperch » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:00 am

Former Steelers Olinemen dumping on Pickett’s inability to identify a blitz. Is he sleeping in that cubicle or what?

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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:02 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:00 am
Former Steelers Olinemen dumping on Pickett’s inability to identify a blitz. Is he sleeping in that cubicle or what?

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Essex also just took a shot at Tomlin FYI

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Post by langer » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:02 am

I go back to that story of Najee asking Coach for help and Tomlin blowing him off.

If that's how he treated Najee, he treated Kenny the same way.

Coach Mike isn't exactly the guy to develop talent. Figuring out how to get Kenny to even a backup level will take someone who was a QB and knows how to play the position.

I don't see the team doing that soon.
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Post by tbsteel » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:05 am

Steelafan77 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:56 am


Question going forward is, What to do now?
Lose out.

Fire the entire offensive staff. Khan/Weidl get authority from Rooney to bring in outside coaches and make hires outside of Tomlin, pushing Mike to consider retirement or moving on after 2024.

Scout QBs like a motherfucker.

Trade what picks you need to, including any player as needed to be included to get the QB you need.

Bring in a new WR. Trade Najee after declining his fifth year, start Jaylen Warren, sign a bruiser RB in FA.

Then hope Burrow, Watson, and Jackson all get hurt.
*roots for losses*

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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:06 am

jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:53 am
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:49 am
jeemie wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:43 am


How Calvin Austin is not his primary read pre-snap I will never know.

The Cards are in obvious zone and assuming Kenny knows the routes that I’ll be run, it is clear as Crystal before the snap that any defenders that can get to Austin will be run off by receivers coming into their space.

The route was open from jump.
This is the exact type of play I see other teams run around the league every week and am jealous of. Receiver schemed wide open vs a zone. Easy dump off and score. Kenny never looked at him, had no reason to run the ball. This is a weekly occurrence with a Kenny in the redzone, they actually call a good play and have somebody wide the hell open, he never even looks at them. The guy is 25 and racking up overtime hours in his cubicle. No reason he shouldn’t be locating the right receivers by now.
What’s especially sad about this is I think Kenny may have actually looked that way for a split second.

But he shouldn’t have been looking anywhere else. Pre-snap, knowing the routes, that’s the only route that will be obviously wide open.
My question is still, is that because of how he's coached or not coached? I don't know. I do know that I don't trust this coaching staff coaching up anyone. Kendrick Green, Kelvin Dotson, Robert Spillane...just from last season then look at how often our #1 and #2 receivers have miscommunications, turn the wrong way, stop, give up or just don't run routes/block when they're supposed to. Even if he's not already fucked up by this coaching staff, his inability to stay healthy has me most concerned. He's missing a lot without really taking a beating. Not a good sign for the future.
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Post by tbsteel » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:06 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:00 am
Former Steelers Olinemen dumping on Pickett’s inability to identify a blitz. Is he sleeping in that cubicle or what?

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Footage is out there showing what Kenny is up to at the office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0OSfbPJFa4
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Post by BethlehemSteel » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:07 am

tbsteel wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:05 am
Steelafan77 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:56 am


Question going forward is, What to do now?
Lose out.

Fire the entire offensive staff. Khan/Weidl get authority from Rooney to bring in outside coaches and make hires outside of Tomlin, pushing Mike to consider retirement or moving on after 2024.

Scout QBs like a motherfucker.

Trade what picks you need to, including any player as needed to be included to get the QB you need.

Bring in a new WR. Trade Najee after declining his fifth year, start Jaylen Warren, sign a bruiser RB in FA.

Then hope Burrow, Watson, and Jackson all get hurt.
It’s long past midnight for Tomlin. The long knives should be out because you can’t make excuses for his inept / lazy faire approach
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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:08 am

tbsteel wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:05 am
Steelafan77 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:56 am


Question going forward is, What to do now?
Lose out.

Fire the entire offensive staff. Khan/Weidl get authority from Rooney to bring in outside coaches and make hires outside of Tomlin, pushing Mike to consider retirement or moving on after 2024.

Scout QBs like a motherfucker.

Trade what picks you need to, including any player as needed to be included to get the QB you need.

Bring in a new WR. Trade Najee after declining his fifth year, start Jaylen Warren, sign a bruiser RB in FA.

Then hope Burrow, Watson, and Jackson all get hurt.
If it actually happened what qb is targeted?

Draft one in 24 or sign a vet? Or both?

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Post by Kodiak. » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:09 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:30 am
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:17 am
Someone give Ben a call. He could sit in a rocking chair behind center and be better than Mitch / Mason.
TD passes the last 4 weeks
Mitch 1
Ben 0
Kenny 0

:lol:
Even DJ scores TDs when Mitch is playing...
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Post by Kodiak. » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:10 am

Steelafan77 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:08 am
If it actually happened what qb is targeted?

Draft one in 24 or sign a vet? Or both?
LOL people acting like it hasn't already been decided to draft Brock Purdy's brother
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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:12 am

A stretch to say the least :? :D

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:13 am

tbsteel wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:06 am
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:00 am
Former Steelers Olinemen dumping on Pickett’s inability to identify a blitz. Is he sleeping in that cubicle or what?

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Footage is out there showing what Kenny is up to at the office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0OSfbPJFa4
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Post by tbsteel » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:17 am

Steelafan77 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:08 am
tbsteel wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:05 am
Steelafan77 wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:56 am


Question going forward is, What to do now?
Lose out.

Fire the entire offensive staff. Khan/Weidl get authority from Rooney to bring in outside coaches and make hires outside of Tomlin, pushing Mike to consider retirement or moving on after 2024.

Scout QBs like a motherfucker.

Trade what picks you need to, including any player as needed to be included to get the QB you need.

Bring in a new WR. Trade Najee after declining his fifth year, start Jaylen Warren, sign a bruiser RB in FA.

Then hope Burrow, Watson, and Jackson all get hurt.
If it actually happened what qb is targeted?

Draft one in 24 or sign a vet? Or both?

I think a lot of it depends on who declares and who is realistically available. B2B and others can better respond to that, I don't follow the college game that closely. Can't imagine Williams or Maye would be available. Jayden Daniels looks intriguing.

I've got to admit, Penix (though over-aged like Kenny, and having a bad injury histor) is pretty interesting as well. I think he's more of a late first/early day 2 guy though.
*roots for losses*

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Post by BethlehemSteel » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:20 am

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:02 am
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:00 am
Former Steelers Olinemen dumping on Pickett’s inability to identify a blitz. Is he sleeping in that cubicle or what?

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Essex also just took a shot at Tomlin FYI
https://x.com/traiday79/status/1731435347022577928?s=46

Respected him but railroaded him
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