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Steelers vs Arizona Cardinals Game Comments & Hyperbole
Re: Steelers vs Arizona Cardinals Game Comments & Hyperbole
"...It's very difficult to keep the line between the past and the present... Do you know what I mean...?"
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This is the equivalent of Kenny Pickett throwing the same number of TD passes as Ben and Bradshaw over the last 4 weeks so he must be good.
The Steelers were 7-4 with very few TD passes from Pickett.Steelperch wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:57 amThis is the equivalent of Kenny Pickett throwing the same number of TD passes as Ben and Bradshaw over the last 4 weeks so he must be good.
He drove them to the freaking 1 yard line and got hurt.
Shit gotta out hand quick after that.
Let's see how Mitch does.
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i don't think Mitch going to do anything
But in a real offense Mid Kenny would have like 8-9 TDs....
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Weighty downs...the lifeblood of ball possession
Weighty downs...the lifeblood of ball possession
This year was Canada's fault. Next year will be Pickett's turn.
Has clearly been the plan for almost 2 years now. In that regard, Tomlin is no dummy. It's probably why Rooney forced the Canada firing to accelerate the timeline.
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Weighty downs...the lifeblood of ball possession
Weighty downs...the lifeblood of ball possession
Yep. With Canada out I think the most realistic timeline for Pickett is one more year. Canada out definitely accelerates things. They'll give him another offseason and half a year next season to see if he can drastically improve. Otherwise, I think they'll make the call into next year and be drafting a QB in 2025.
Not what I'd do, but what I think most likely happens.
*roots for losses*
Sad part is, with a good OC Mid Kenny could potentially improve enough to give a lot of people hope. LOT of room to grow significantly and STILL suck, but people will be measuring him for a gold jacket again...tbsteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:10 amYep. With Canada out I think the most realistic timeline for Pickett is one more year. Canada out definitely accelerates things. They'll give him another offseason and half a year next season to see if he can drastically improve. Otherwise, I think they'll make the call into next year and be drafting a QB in 2025.
Not what I'd do, but what I think most likely happens.
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The bar is definitely low lol. Pretty sad.Kodiak. wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:17 amSad part is, with a good OC Mid Kenny could potentially improve enough to give a lot of people hope. LOT of room to grow significantly and STILL suck, but people will be measuring him for a gold jacket again...tbsteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:10 amYep. With Canada out I think the most realistic timeline for Pickett is one more year. Canada out definitely accelerates things. They'll give him another offseason and half a year next season to see if he can drastically improve. Otherwise, I think they'll make the call into next year and be drafting a QB in 2025.
Not what I'd do, but what I think most likely happens.
*roots for losses*
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Why did Kenny drive them to 4th down at the 1 yard line instead of throwing TD pass? Because he can’t read a defense. Because he can’t get past his first progression. Because he takes off and scrambles away from a clean pocket when he gets nervous. All of the above!K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:16 amThe Steelers were 7-4 with very few TD passes from Pickett.Steelperch wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:57 amThis is the equivalent of Kenny Pickett throwing the same number of TD passes as Ben and Bradshaw over the last 4 weeks so he must be good.
He drove them to the freaking 1 yard line and got hurt.
Shit gotta out hand quick after that.
Let's see how Mitch does.

Are you implying running a QB sneak might have yielded a different outcome?
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Orangesteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:02 amKenny is a bust. It’s official IMO. The Cards defense was so bad and he didn’t do squat in two quarters of play.Steelperch wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:58 pmBrock Purdy has 3 TD passes, 141 QB rating, and has put of 35 points on the best team in the league on the road. We are just asking Kenny to throw 1 TD per month.![]()
Steelers have any brains they will start strategizing for the next guy.
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Absolutely.
Nobody seems to answer the question.
When do you remember Pickett being stopped on a QB sneak?
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The screen shot you provided might show a receiver open to the far left (Pickens?), but you can already see the DB heading in that direction and the receiver heading inside is covered. Pickett might have had a clean pocket, but nobody was open.Steelperch wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:18 amWhy did Kenny drive them to 4th down at the 1 yard line instead of throwing TD pass? Because he can’t read a defense. Because he can’t get past his first progression. Because he takes off and scrambles away from a clean pocket when he gets nervous. All of the above!K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:16 amThe Steelers were 7-4 with very few TD passes from Pickett.Steelperch wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:57 am
This is the equivalent of Kenny Pickett throwing the same number of TD passes as Ben and Bradshaw over the last 4 weeks so he must be good.
He drove them to the freaking 1 yard line and got hurt.
Shit gotta out hand quick after that.
Let's see how Mitch does.
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He made the right decision to pull it down and almost scored. It just blows he got hurt in the process.
All that happens now is we'll get a little better draft choice to address the enormous amount of needs this team has. That's it.
Pickett will be the starter next season. That's the reality.
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This screen cap is discussed in the cubicle kid injury thread
Don’t lie KC. We all saw Austin was the first read from this formation as the play was designed to go there as he’s wide open from the snap. Tuck and tail Ken screws it up.
Kid sees ghosts and is afraid, he tries to succeed but can’t get past his own issues
Don’t lie KC. We all saw Austin was the first read from this formation as the play was designed to go there as he’s wide open from the snap. Tuck and tail Ken screws it up.
Kid sees ghosts and is afraid, he tries to succeed but can’t get past his own issues
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Um....not lying. I will have to look at the play again on replay because this screen shot literally shows NOBODY wide the fuck open.BethlehemSteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:00 amThis screen cap is discussed in the cubicle kid injury thread
Don’t lie KC. We all saw Austin was the first read from this formation as the play was designed to go there as he’s wide open from the snap. Tuck and tail Ken screws it up.
Kid sees ghosts and is afraid, he tries to succeed but can’t get past his own issues
If that is Austin open up top, you can see the corner in the end zone headed that way. If the pass is on target, Austin is going to have to catch it then beat the DB to the corner and will probably have to fight to get in. If you think he walks in, you're smoking better shit than I am and I seriously doubt that you have better stuff than I do.
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You refused to comment on this exact discussion in t that thread, come here and drum it up. Go look at it 100 times.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:14 amUm....not lying. I will have to look at the play again on replay because this screen shot literally shows NOBODY wide the fuck open.BethlehemSteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:00 amThis screen cap is discussed in the cubicle kid injury thread
Don’t lie KC. We all saw Austin was the first read from this formation as the play was designed to go there as he’s wide open from the snap. Tuck and tail Ken screws it up.
Kid sees ghosts and is afraid, he tries to succeed but can’t get past his own issues
If that is Austin open up top, you can see the corner in the end zone headed that way. If the pass is on target, Austin is going to have to catch it then beat the DB to the corner and will probably have to fight to get in. If you think he walks in, you're smoking better shit than I am and I seriously doubt that you have better stuff than I do.
The play was busted by Cubicle Ken
Anything else is disingenuous, but keep clowning !!
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I refused to comment?BethlehemSteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:28 amYou refused to comment on this exact discussion in t that thread, come here and drum it up. Go look at it 100 times.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:14 amUm....not lying. I will have to look at the play again on replay because this screen shot literally shows NOBODY wide the fuck open.BethlehemSteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:00 amThis screen cap is discussed in the cubicle kid injury thread
Don’t lie KC. We all saw Austin was the first read from this formation as the play was designed to go there as he’s wide open from the snap. Tuck and tail Ken screws it up.
Kid sees ghosts and is afraid, he tries to succeed but can’t get past his own issues
If that is Austin open up top, you can see the corner in the end zone headed that way. If the pass is on target, Austin is going to have to catch it then beat the DB to the corner and will probably have to fight to get in. If you think he walks in, you're smoking better shit than I am and I seriously doubt that you have better stuff than I do.
The play was busted by Cubicle Ken
Anything else is disingenuous, but keep clowning !!
I saw no one wide open during the play and I see no one wide open on Perch's screen shot.
I mean, tough shit if you feel differently. You'll survive.
The closest to wide open is probably Austin who was probably Kenny's 4th read. I'll acknowledge that if Pickett can get the ball to Austin that might be a TD. Emphasis on "might" but the idea Kenny seriously fucked up here by running the ball and missing a TD by a pussy hair is ridiculous and just dumb.
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I think Mike Tomlin says it best when he says the NFL is a result oriented business. Taking off running with a bum ankle because you can't read the field is pathetic.
IF you don't see that Austin is open there, that the ball should have already been out of Kenny's hand to his wide fucking open WR so he could walk into the endzone, then you have blinders on.
IF you don't see that Austin is open there, that the ball should have already been out of Kenny's hand to his wide fucking open WR so he could walk into the endzone, then you have blinders on.
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Kc comes to restate bullshit
Nothing new there. I should know better than to call it out
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Nothing new there. I should know better than to call it out
I was at a movie I didn’t see it. Comments in game thread during movie time
Hilarious
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He is open up top.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:14 amUm....not lying. I will have to look at the play again on replay because this screen shot literally shows NOBODY wide the fuck open.BethlehemSteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:00 amThis screen cap is discussed in the cubicle kid injury thread
Don’t lie KC. We all saw Austin was the first read from this formation as the play was designed to go there as he’s wide open from the snap. Tuck and tail Ken screws it up.
Kid sees ghosts and is afraid, he tries to succeed but can’t get past his own issues
If that is Austin open up top, you can see the corner in the end zone headed that way. If the pass is on target, Austin is going to have to catch it then beat the DB to the corner and will probably have to fight to get in. If you think he walks in, you're smoking better shit than I am and I seriously doubt that you have better stuff than I do.
What you’re ignoring is that by the time of this screen cap, the ball should already be most of the way to Austin because it should have been thrown already.
Like how Trubisky threw his TD to Johnson with anticipation (not the same play, but Mitch threw trusting Johnson would be open at the spot of the throw because he read that DJ was open).
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Cardinals players were talking crap in their locker room referencing the Matt Canada firing. Saying these guys still suck.
Getting smack talked by one of the worst teams in the league, and you have no response.
Jaylen Warren is the only one who will publicly say they may have overlooked Cardinals. How you can overlook any team with the way you've played this year, I'll never know. This is a team capable of losing any week no matter how bad the team is.
Getting smack talked by one of the worst teams in the league, and you have no response.
Jaylen Warren is the only one who will publicly say they may have overlooked Cardinals. How you can overlook any team with the way you've played this year, I'll never know. This is a team capable of losing any week no matter how bad the team is.
Hopefully I get under your skin.BethlehemSteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:03 pmKc comes to restate bullshit
Nothing new there. I should know better than to call it out
I was at a movie I didn’t see it. Comments in game thread during movie time
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I don't disagree that the ball should already be out to Austin if he were going to go there, but when that is probably Pickett's fourth read, I don't think it's quite as simple as you put it.jeemie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:17 pmHe is open up top.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:14 amUm....not lying. I will have to look at the play again on replay because this screen shot literally shows NOBODY wide the fuck open.BethlehemSteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:00 amThis screen cap is discussed in the cubicle kid injury thread
Don’t lie KC. We all saw Austin was the first read from this formation as the play was designed to go there as he’s wide open from the snap. Tuck and tail Ken screws it up.
Kid sees ghosts and is afraid, he tries to succeed but can’t get past his own issues
If that is Austin open up top, you can see the corner in the end zone headed that way. If the pass is on target, Austin is going to have to catch it then beat the DB to the corner and will probably have to fight to get in. If you think he walks in, you're smoking better shit than I am and I seriously doubt that you have better stuff than I do.
What you’re ignoring is that by the time of this screen cap, the ball should already be most of the way to Austin because it should have been thrown already.
Like how Trubisky threw his TD to Johnson with anticipation (not the same play, but Mitch threw trusting Johnson would be open at the spot of the throw because he read that DJ was open).
If Pickett also leaves the pocket a split second sooner, he absolutely scores on that run up the middle.
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What part of “if this is Pickett’s fourth read, it shows he sucks at reading defenses” aren’t you getting?
Additionally, it would be a shit ass play design for that route to be the fourth read. Teams use that route combo at the goal line to get a guy open in the flat ALL THE TIME.
Earlier you said you thought his first reads were middle of the field and that “this makes sense”.
My question to you would be “WHY do you think this ‘makes sense’”?
Which of those middle of the field routes looked like they’d be open pre snap?
Additionally, it would be a shit ass play design for that route to be the fourth read. Teams use that route combo at the goal line to get a guy open in the flat ALL THE TIME.
Earlier you said you thought his first reads were middle of the field and that “this makes sense”.
My question to you would be “WHY do you think this ‘makes sense’”?
Which of those middle of the field routes looked like they’d be open pre snap?
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Why would a throw to the middle of the field "make sense?"jeemie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:36 pmWhat part of “if this is Pickett’s fourth read, it shows he sucks at reading defenses” aren’t you getting?
Additionally, it would be a shit ass play design for that route to be the fourth read. Teams use that route combo at the goal line to get a guy open in the flat ALL THE TIME.
Earlier you said you thought his first reads were middle of the field and that “this makes sense”.
My question to you would be “WHY do you think this ‘makes sense’”?
Which of those middle of the field routes looked like they’d be open pre snap?
Because it's the fucking shortest pass. In Euclidian geometry the shortest distance between two points is a straight line.
Darnell Washington is a mountain of a man. Throwing it to him there probably should have been the first read. Throw the fucking ball up to that guy and hope he comes down with it. I think Freiermuth was on the field too and couldn't get open.
I hope that answers your question.
Pressure had been getting to PIckett quickly. Christ both Jones and Warren whiffed on a block causing a sack and Arizona's pressure early was plenty successful in making Pickett uncomfortable.
That's why I believe Pickett looked in front of him, saw both TE's covered, looked to the back....and he was covered and then decided to try and score by himself....and nearly did.
I've said throwing it outside was probably the best play in hindsight and if you want to blame Pickett's inability to process his reads fast enough, I have no problem with that.
I just think it's a little more complicated. Outside throws have a much higher chance of being picked and Calvin Austin ain't running through anybody if that DB can get to the corner in time to challenge him.
Agree to disagree on how bad Pickett's decision was. If he scores on the ground, which he damn near did, we aren't having this discussion.
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The goal line is the one situation where everything changes.
The middle of the field is more congested...outside routes are more likely to be open...unless middle routes are being schemed open- in this case they weren't- the outside route to Austin is the one that was being schemed open.
And again, remember, Kenny DID look left for the briefest instant...if he can't make that pass, he has no business being in the NFL.
Sorry the injury DID happen...and it didn't have to.
You don't want your QB running unless he absolutely has to- and Kenny should have known he didn't have to.
The play to Austin is as basic a goal line play as there is...plays like that are how good QBs get more TD passes and save themselves from getting injured.
The middle of the field is more congested...outside routes are more likely to be open...unless middle routes are being schemed open- in this case they weren't- the outside route to Austin is the one that was being schemed open.
And again, remember, Kenny DID look left for the briefest instant...if he can't make that pass, he has no business being in the NFL.
Sorry the injury DID happen...and it didn't have to.
You don't want your QB running unless he absolutely has to- and Kenny should have known he didn't have to.
The play to Austin is as basic a goal line play as there is...plays like that are how good QBs get more TD passes and save themselves from getting injured.
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You don’t. You’re not a serious person. You’re just another fucking idiot on a message board who talks tough and in circles.K_C_ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:24 pmHopefully I get under your skin.BethlehemSteel wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 12:03 pmKc comes to restate bullshit
Nothing new there. I should know better than to call it out
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I can't believe ANYONE is defending KP on this play. There's zero way to spin thisjeemie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:24 pmThe goal line is the one situation where everything changes.
The middle of the field is more congested...outside routes are more likely to be open...unless middle routes are being schemed open- in this case they weren't- the outside route to Austin is the one that was being schemed open.
And again, remember, Kenny DID look left for the briefest instant...if he can't make that pass, he has no business being in the NFL.
Sorry the injury DID happen...and it didn't have to.
You don't want your QB running unless he absolutely has to- and Kenny should have known he didn't have to.
The play to Austin is as basic a goal line play as there is...plays like that are how good QBs get more TD passes and save themselves from getting injured.
It's the epitome of "Can't Read Zone Defenses"
