Fire Tomlin!

[Thrillsseeker]

Rich Eisen put his two cents in again, and said Steelers fans who want Tomlin gone are insane.

Most of the arguments are asinine. He's #4 among active coaches in wins. He's of course the second longest tenured coach. He has a top 30 winning percentage all time! Top 10 if you just look at guys who coach 170+ games (how many guys coach that many games?). NHALS. Other teams would line up to hire him in droves! Fucking let them.

He's not even as successful as his two predecessors. The arguments for Tomlin have always been weak. In the structure of the Steelers organization, a lot of coaches could succeed on par with Tomlin. The argument for not replacing him is you don't trust your own processes anymore (or something worse - you don't like the optics of firing a black guy who has been successful).

This is an organization that forced out Chuck Noll. They mulled over firing Cowher, and after 2004 it was Art II himself who basically demanded a Super Bowl win and said the time for it was now. That was a 15-1 season with a rookie QB that ended in the AFCCG to a team that had already won two Super Bowls in the previous three seasons.

You could do worse than Tomlin. Maybe the next head coach doesn't coach the team for a decade and a half, but maybe that guy provides the spark needed right now or has the right plan for a rebuild. A guy who lasts 7 seasons but brings in a championship that Tomlin wouldn't have would be worth it.

But the truth is that the time to ditch Tomlin was when they already had a HOF QB whose career they were essentially wasting. But very few fans were willing to buy the argument then, let alone Art II.

Most of the people that criticize us for wanting Tomlin gone are fans of other teams. They'd be happy if we stayed mediocre forever. Nobody wants the SB contender Steelers back except us. Even some of Tomlin's biggest supporter former players are calling for his head now. Most people that actually want the Steelers to win are catching up with those of us that have known he was a fraud for over a decade. Will it be enough? Rooney was finally embarrassed enough to dump a coordinator. Maybe he'll actually let Khan get us a draft pick or two for Tomlin.

The absolute very best scenario if this were to happen.

I’d be ecstatic!

[Thrillsseeker]

Send Tomlin to Carolina for their first. Take the best QB in the draft and another tackle with our first. Take a center in the 2nd and pray they hire the right coach. Franchise back on track.

^^^^all that, then sign Muncheck for the O-line coach.

Nirvana.

[Baltostiller]

Send Tomlin to Carolina for their first. Take the best QB in the draft and another tackle with our first. Take a center in the 2nd and pray they hire the right coach. Franchise back on track.

Carolina traded their first to the Bears...

Well crap. Washington would be a good partner but they won't be drafting as high.

As of now they are the 4th pick.

[alancac98]

What else can we name after Coach Mike Tomlin?

Tomlin Field.
The Coach Mike Tomlin Expressway
Coach Mike Tomlin Bridge
Mike Tomlin Avenue
Coach Mike Tomlin at Star Lake Amphitheatre
The Coach Mike Tomlin Walkway
Tomlin River
Ft. Tomlin Bridge
A series of parks and libraries named after Coach.
The Tomlin District.
Primanti's, renamed Tomlin's
Rename The Point to Tomlin Square

We could really spruce up Pittsburgh, if you will.

I feel like the Bridge of Sighs would be appropriate for Tomlin's namesake

Rename the Fort Pitt Bridge the Living in Our Fears Bridge! or Obviously, The Fort Pitt Bridge!

[steelmann58]

I totally would be estatic if he gets him traded.

[anpsteel]

.

[Steelafan77]

What else can we name after Coach Mike Tomlin?

Tomlin Field.
The Coach Mike Tomlin Expressway
Coach Mike Tomlin Bridge
Mike Tomlin Avenue
Coach Mike Tomlin at Star Lake Amphitheatre
The Coach Mike Tomlin Walkway
Tomlin River
Ft. Tomlin Bridge
A series of parks and libraries named after Coach.
The Tomlin District.
Primanti's, renamed Tomlin's
Rename The Point to Tomlin Square

We could really spruce up Pittsburgh, if you will.

I feel like the Bridge of Sighs would be appropriate for Tomlin's namesake

Rename the Fort Pitt Bridge the Living in Our Fears Bridge! or Obviously, The Fort Pitt Bridge!

How about an award?

The Tomlin NHALS man of the year award.

Awarded to that special man steeped in bullshit at the highest level.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

The Tomlin-Fisher-Schotteheimer-Franklin-Garrett award. Good but not great people do need constant affirmation whenever possible.

[langer]

The Tomlin-Fisher-Schotteheimer-Franklin-Garrett award. Good but not great people do not constant affirmation whenever possible.

The Tomlin-Fisher-Schotteheimer-Franklin-Garrett-Vrabel-Kotite-Coslet-Edwards award.

Gotta include Herm Edwards for DEI approval.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

If Tomlin were a Christmas carol he would be "Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time". Predictable, no variation, mailing it in.

[955876]

It’s amazing, by the way, the difference in perception a single game in a mediocre, playoff-free season can make. Mike Tomlin went 9-8 with a minus-38 point differential last season and got NFL Coach of the Year votes. Belichick went 8-9 with a plus-17 and got torn to pieces.

Good point from Starkey.

Especially when one considers the substantial amount of post-season success BB has had vs Jibbs “lost decade”.

1 bad season and he’s on the hot seat vs perpetual medicore Mike who gets heaps of praise from the talking heads.

It’s almost as if there is a concerted effort to never utter a negative word about the man.

Very privileged position he’s found himself in.

[swissvale72]

It’s amazing, by the way, the difference in perception a single game in a mediocre, playoff-free season can make. Mike Tomlin went 9-8 with a minus-38 point differential last season and got NFL Coach of the Year votes. Belichick went 8-9 with a plus-17 and got torn to pieces.

Good point from Starkey.

Especially when one considers the substantial amount of post-season BB has had vs Jibbs “lost decade”.

1 bad season and he’s on the hot seat vs perpetual medicore Mike who gets heaps of praise from the talking heads.

It’s almost as if there is a concerted effort to never utter a negative word about the man.

Very privileged position he’s found himself in.

You notice, '95, how no one else on this esteemed website refers to Tomlin as "Jibbs?"

[955876]

1) That is actually incorrect. I’ve seen quite a few adopt it from time to time over the years.

2) Why do you even care? Does it trigger you somehow?

3) I couldn’t care less if anyone else uses it. Not like I get a royalty or some shit if they do.

4) I like it. Find it a very fitting description for the master wordsmiff.

5) Is it somehow worse than “The Fucking Potted Plant”?

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

In the period of 2011-2023, the Steelers managed to make 1 AFCC game, no Super Bowls (these numbers could change depending on the outcome of this season, but I strongly doubt the Steelers make the AFCC game this year, let alone the Super Bowl). During that span, the Steelers' playoff appearances were mostly embarrassing and included getting Tebowed in 2011, getting Bortled in 2017, and getting Bakered in 2020 (with the Browns head coach home with COVID)

And lest it should not be forgotten, he had a hall of fame quarterback in his prime for much of the 2011-2023 span, and probably two of the more dynamic players at WR/RB during some of those years. Simply put, the talent was obviously there to do better, that wasn't the problem.

[W&M_Steeler]

In the period of 2011-2023, the Steelers managed to make 1 AFCC game, no Super Bowls (these numbers could change depending on the outcome of this season, but I strongly doubt the Steelers make the AFCC game this year, let alone the Super Bowl). During that span, the Steelers' playoff appearances were mostly embarrassing and included getting Tebowed in 2011, getting Bortled in 2017, and getting Bakered in 2020 (with the Browns head coach home with COVID)

And lest it should not be forgotten, he had a hall of fame quarterback in his prime for much of the 2011-2023 span, and probably two of the more dynamic players at WR/RB during some of those years. Simply put, the talent was obviously there to do better, that wasn't the problem.

No doubt. Tomlin massively underperformed in the 2010s. At the minimum, the Steelers of that era should have had multiple AFCC game appearances. The fact that they only made one (and were blown out in a laugher of a game- the first Steelers playoff game I ever turned off in frustration) is a severe indictment of Tomlin's career.

Cowher had much more postseason success than Tomlin despite having mediocre at best QBs for most of his tenure. Remember when out biggest gripe was that we had a coach who tended to choke in the AFCC game? That seems like a luxury now compared to the past decade+.

[steelheadtrout]

The ideal location for Tomlin is a college coach. He'd get to mentor young athletes (which is what I think really gets his juices going). Some college needs to pursue him.

[W&M_Steeler]

The ideal location for Tomlin is a college coach. He'd get to mentor young athletes (which is what I think really gets his juices going). Some college needs to pursue him.

He needs to coach W&M. He'd be a great recruiter and could dominate the CAA.

[DP39]

The ideal location for Tomlin is a college coach. He'd get to mentor young athletes (which is what I think really gets his juices going). Some college needs to pursue him.

He needs to coach W&M. He'd be a great recruiter and could dominate the CAA.

Not doubt, and I know you're just dreaming. But we all know he's too big of a fish (in his mind/ego, at least) to go back into that small pond.

[W&M_Steeler]

The ideal location for Tomlin is a college coach. He'd get to mentor young athletes (which is what I think really gets his juices going). Some college needs to pursue him.

He needs to coach W&M. He'd be a great recruiter and could dominate the CAA.

Not doubt, and I know you're just dreaming. But we all know he's too big of a fish (in his mind/ego, at least) to go back into that small pond.

Agreed, I doubt we'll see Tomlin walking the sidelines at Zable stadium.

[gojira5150]

It’s amazing, by the way, the difference in perception a single game in a mediocre, playoff-free season can make. Mike Tomlin went 9-8 with a minus-38 point differential last season and got NFL Coach of the Year votes. Belichick went 8-9 with a plus-17 and got torn to pieces.

Good point from Starkey.

Especially when one considers the substantial amount of post-season BB has had vs Jibbs “lost decade”.

1 bad season and he’s on the hot seat vs perpetual medicore Mike who gets heaps of praise from the talking heads.

It’s almost as if there is a concerted effort to never utter a negative word about the man.

Very privileged position he’s found himself in.

You notice, '95, how no one else on this esteemed website refers to Tomlin as "Jibbs?"

I use Jibbs or Jibba quite often. Fits him to a T

[langer]

Too much work for the philosophizin' Coach Mike to take on a college program.

It does not befit a man of his stature, if you will.

[Quixotic]

He would get hired immediately!!!

So what? Why do we care if our trash is another team’s treasure. We would be rid of him.

[LakecrestSteeler]

He needs to coach W&M. He'd be a great recruiter and could dominate the CAA.

Not doubt, and I know you're just dreaming. But we all know he's too big of a fish (in his mind/ego, at least) to go back into that small pond.

Agreed, I doubt we'll see Tomlin walking the sidelines at Zable stadium.

Just watched “It Ain’t Over”. Yankees fired beloved Yogi Berra and war hero, who had the Midas touch when it came to baseball and championships either playing or coaching, this after winning the pennant in his first year!

Anything is possible!

[Jizz Mop]

He would get hired immediately!!!

So what? Why do we care if our trash is another team’s treasure. We would be rid of him.

Getting rid of him is my only wish right now w the Steelers

As one of the older fans here, I have lived through the Noll, Cowher and Tomlin eras.

We need a 4th. Badly.

[Stosh-67]

He would get hired immediately!!!

So what? Why do we care if our trash is another team’s treasure. We would be rid of him.

Getting rid of him is my only wish right now w the Steelers

As one of the older fans here, I have lived through the Noll, Cowher and Tomlin eras.

We need a 4th. Badly.

Only 4 coaches in 54 years has a nice ring too.....
If thats what they like to say.
I would think every other team has had at least 6 or 7? 8-9?

What other team even comes close to that esteemed coaching tidbit.

[Stosh-67]

this is an article from 2016 about the "only 3 coaches in....."

https://www.espn.com/blog/afcnorth/post ... -nfl-peers

THE LONG GAME
The Steelers have had three head coaches since 1969, a figure no one in the NFL can touch. Here are the leaders in this category among Super-Bowl-winning franchises (not including the Ravens, who entered the league in 1996, or interim coaches).

TEAM NUMBER OF COACHES
Steelers 3
*Seahawks 7
Cowboys 8
Packers 9
Broncos 9
* - first year was 1976

We still have 3 more coaching changes in our back pocket to keep that lead.

[BethlehemSteel]

So what? Why do we care if our trash is another team’s treasure. We would be rid of him.

Getting rid of him is my only wish right now w the Steelers

As one of the older fans here, I have lived through the Noll, Cowher and Tomlin eras.

We need a 4th. Badly.

Only 4 coaches in 54 years has a nice ring too.....
If thats what they like to say.
I would think every other team has had at least 6 or 7? 8-9?

What other team even comes close to that esteemed coaching tidbit.

All fan efforts should be about a new regime and ousting Tomlin. The local media seem to be worm turning now

Brian Billick even said with cook and joe that change for changes sake notion would serve STEELERS AND TOMLIN WELL!!

Let’s get a fourth coach since 1969. It’s time.

No more FOT “friends of Tomlin “ speak

Let Tomlin move on to his life’s work

His daughter is college age now…….his nest is empty and time to move on

Im sick and tired of this fucking insanity week after week, year after year

[anpsteel]

He would get hired immediately!!!

So what? Why do we care if our trash is another team’s treasure. We would be rid of him.

Getting rid of him is my only wish right now w the Steelers

As one of the older fans here, I have lived through the Noll, Cowher and Tomlin eras.

We need a 4th. Badly.

Indeed

My general concern, is that the powers that be will focus on Diversity hiring, over Capability hiring.

I don't give a rip what color the dude's skin is, I just want whoever it is, to be the best candidate, not the best minority candidate.

[Jizz Mop]

So what? Why do we care if our trash is another team’s treasure. We would be rid of him.

Getting rid of him is my only wish right now w the Steelers

As one of the older fans here, I have lived through the Noll, Cowher and Tomlin eras.

We need a 4th. Badly.

Indeed

My general concern, is that the powers that be will focus on Diversity hiring, over Capability hiring.

I don't give a rip what color the dude's skin is, I just want whoever it is, to be the best candidate, not the best minority candidate.

I’m with you

Don’t care about the race of the “new coach” someday

(Let’s out sigh)

I just want to see the team win and be put in the best position to accomplish that

What I’m seeing and hearing doesn’t indicate that’s the current situation

[Quixotic]

this is an article from 2016 about the "only 3 coaches in....."

https://www.espn.com/blog/afcnorth/post ... -nfl-peers

THE LONG GAME
The Steelers have had three head coaches since 1969, a figure no one in the NFL can touch. Here are the leaders in this category among Super-Bowl-winning franchises (not including the Ravens, who entered the league in 1996, or interim coaches).

TEAM NUMBER OF COACHES
Steelers 3
*Seahawks 7
Cowboys 8
Packers 9
Broncos 9
* - first year was 1976

We still have 3 more coaching changes in our back pocket to keep that lead.

Yeah. Now would be a great time to use one.