Who To Keep For The Rebuild?

[bradshaw2ben]

My rules for a rebuild are basically:
1. Trade or cut everyone who is over the age of 29 and or is overpriced, although you get to keep 1 guy (or maybe 2 if they're superstars) who are cheap or a HOFer and not going to be washed up before the end of 2025 season.
2. Guarantee no starting job to anyone who isn't great.

DEFENSE
1. find Cam a decent home unless he wants to retire a Steelers for life
2. Keep TJ (although listen to offers and think long and hard about moving him for the right price)
3. Keep Minkah, Benton, JPJ, and (since no one would take him at his contract price, Highsmith

OFFENSE
1. Jaylen Warren is a Steeler until he is eligible for C$2. Sign him at the right price but don't overpay
2. bring in 3 QBs who either can play above-average football or who have tremendous physical/processing upside. Move Pickett unless he can legit beat out all three
3. Keep Broderick Jones

I think pretty much all the others aren't going to be on the team in two years anyway, so why not clean house/get what you can in return. I'm not going to miss any of them, even the ones with some talent but poor character.

[Kodiak.]

I don't have anything to add to that list.

Only caveat is there's plenty of room to keep some guys who are leaders and/or have the right attitude. I think that's why you can't trade TJ. And if Najee would accept, like $3M per year, I'd keep him too. Even if he's like an emergency RB who only gets 20 carries all year.

Point being, there will be a lot of money to go around, so I'd think about keeping some of the high character guys because that's the hardest thing to build in a locker room. And it's what's been slowly eroding from this team with Mike the great enabler.

[Steelperch]

You gonna win many football games with a 6 man roster?

[Kodiak.]

Here's a wild thought - how about trading Bos?

He's probably good for 1-2 wins per year, but wouldn't we prefer to draft after 5-12 vs. 7-10? He's worth at least an R2 to a team that has all the other pieces.

[Kodiak.]

You gonna win many football games with a 6 man roster?

That's why it's genius

[LakecrestSteeler]

My rules for a rebuild are basically:
1. Trade or cut everyone who is over the age of 29 and or is overpriced, although you get to keep 1 guy (or maybe 2 if they're superstars) who are cheap or a HOFer and not going to be washed up before the end of 2025 season.
2. Guarantee no starting job to anyone who isn't great.

DEFENSE
1. find Cam a decent home unless he wants to retire a Steelers for life
2. Keep TJ (although listen to offers and think long and hard about moving him for the right price)
3. Keep Minkah, Benton, JPJ, and (since no one would take him at his contract price, Highsmith

OFFENSE
1. Jaylen Warren is a Steeler until he is eligible for C$2. Sign him at the right price but don't overpay
2. bring in 3 QBs who either can play above-average football or who have tremendous physical/processing upside. Move Pickett unless he can legit beat out all three
3. Keep Broderick Jones

I think pretty much all the others aren't going to be on the team in two years anyway, so why not clean house/get what you can in return. I'm not going to miss any of them, even the ones with some talent but poor character.

Are coaches in this too?

[Steelersfan]

Herbig
Daniels
Saulamalu
Trice
Boswell
Holcomb
Kwan
Roberts
TJ
Cam if he considers being a sub
Benton
Warren
Minka
Jones


With real, experienced, resumed true NFL coaches:
Najee
Moore
Pickins
DJ
Kazee
Pickett
Montravius
JPJ
Maybe Austin
Connor Hayward
Muth
Darrel Washington
Killebrew
But they need real NFL level coaches.

[bradshaw2ben]

My rules for a rebuild are basically:
1. Trade or cut everyone who is over the age of 29 and or is overpriced, although you get to keep 1 guy (or maybe 2 if they're superstars) who are cheap or a HOFer and not going to be washed up before the end of 2025 season.
2. Guarantee no starting job to anyone who isn't great.

DEFENSE
1. find Cam a decent home unless he wants to retire a Steelers for life
2. Keep TJ (although listen to offers and think long and hard about moving him for the right price)
3. Keep Minkah, Benton, JPJ, and (since no one would take him at his contract price, Highsmith

OFFENSE
1. Jaylen Warren is a Steeler until he is eligible for C$2. Sign him at the right price but don't overpay
2. bring in 3 QBs who either can play above-average football or who have tremendous physical/processing upside. Move Pickett unless he can legit beat out all three
3. Keep Broderick Jones

I think pretty much all the others aren't going to be on the team in two years anyway, so why not clean house/get what you can in return. I'm not going to miss any of them, even the ones with some talent but poor character.

Are coaches in this too?

Why would keep any of these coaches? FIRE THEM ALL.

[bradshaw2ben]

Herbig
Daniels
Saulamalu
Trice
Boswell
Holcomb
Kwan
Roberts
TJ
Cam if he considers being a sub
Benton
Warren
Minka
Jones


With real, experienced, resumed true NFL coaches:
Najee
Moore
Pickins
DJ
Kazee
Pickett
Montravius
JPJ
Maybe Austin
Connor Hayward
Muth
Darrel Washington
Killebrew
But they need real NFL level coaches.

Some of those are worth giving a chance to step it up. Guys like Killebrew though? Sorry I do not want STs veterans. That’s where I want to develop young players. Some of those guys you list might work out but I’m not holding my breath.

[RemoAZ]

I don't know how you guys can count anyone on this roster out the way they've been coached. Trade Tomlin for a high pick, have a good draft and offseason and this roster isn't that far away from competing with a really good coaching staff. They've been the opposite of coached up. I wouldn't do a complete rebuild until the new coach has a season to see what he can do with what they have.

[shellwagnerblount]

I don't know how you guys can count anyone on this roster out the way they've been coached. Trade Tomlin for a high pick, have a good draft and offseason and this roster isn't that far away from competing with a really good coaching staff. They've been the opposite of coached up. I wouldn't do a complete rebuild until the new coach has a season to see what he can do with what they have.

I agree. Munchak opened my eyes WIDE at what an actual great position coach can do to motivate and train up what was previously regarded as lost causes. I don't trust the STeelers to take a player and make him better. WE have, by a wide margin, the worst group of coaches in the league. Including NHALS who seems to be melting down further each game...

[Orangesteel]

Am I reading this right that some of you would actually bring Najee back?!?!?!

I wouldn’t give him a soggy English muffin and dudes wanna give him C2? Dear lord no.

[Steelperch]

My rules for a rebuild are basically:
1. Trade or cut everyone who is over the age of 29 and or is overpriced, although you get to keep 1 guy (or maybe 2 if they're superstars) who are cheap or a HOFer and not going to be washed up before the end of 2025 season.
2. Guarantee no starting job to anyone who isn't great.

DEFENSE
1. find Cam a decent home unless he wants to retire a Steelers for life
2. Keep TJ (although listen to offers and think long and hard about moving him for the right price)
3. Keep Minkah, Benton, JPJ, and (since no one would take him at his contract price, Highsmith

OFFENSE
1. Jaylen Warren is a Steeler until he is eligible for C$2. Sign him at the right price but don't overpay
2. bring in 3 QBs who either can play above-average football or who have tremendous physical/processing upside. Move Pickett unless he can legit beat out all three
3. Keep Broderick Jones

I think pretty much all the others aren't going to be on the team in two years anyway, so why not clean house/get what you can in return. I'm not going to miss any of them, even the ones with some talent but poor character.

Are coaches in this too?

Why would keep any of these coaches? FIRE THEM ALL.

Danny Smith’s unit has blocked so damn many kicks I keep him around for sure.

[Steelersfan]

Never expect Najee to be the 2nd coming of "sweetness" or even Franco, but he can be useful. Even as a #2. We have never seen him with a real RB coach.

He has talent.

His coach ran Jalen Samuels, Benny Snell, Ant McFarland, Trey Edmunds, Derek Watt & others, out of the league. I mean, were they ALL bad. WHO has Faulkner EVER coached up in his lifetime?

I wanna see him coached by a NFL level running back coach before he's discarded. His coach has ruined to many careers. Najee is hanging on, by a thread, but hanging on. That tells me there's something there to work with. Coaching can be that influentially important. I don't think he'd be near as bad if he was coached by Dick Hoak or Kirby Wilson.

Tomlin's coaching nobody, scrapheap buddy hire is ruining him too, in my opinion.

[Orangesteel]

Never expect Najee to be the 2nd coming of "sweetness" or even Franco, but he can be useful. Even as a #2. We have never seen him with a real RB coach.

He has talent.

His coach ran Jalen Samuels, Benny Snell, Ant McFarland, Trey Edmunds, Derek Watt & others, out of the league. I mean, were they ALL bad. WHO has Faulkner EVER coached up in his lifetime?

I wanna see him coached by a NFL level running back coach before he's discarded. His coach has ruined to many careers. Najee is hanging on, by a thread, but hanging on. That tells me there's something there to work with. Coaching can be that influentially important. I don't think he'd be near as bad if he was coached by Dick Hoak or Kirby Wilson.

Tomlin's coaching nobody, scrapheap buddy hire is ruining him too, in my opinion.

Don’t see it. And not for C2. There are like 4 running backs in the league right now that I’d throw money to. The rest? Scout and draft better and don’t get married to the idea of drafting a guy because he “looks like a Steeler”.

How’s that going?

Why is Warren so much more effective in the same offense, same coaching, same line? Because he’s the better running back!

[chippedhamsandwich]

No way Cam Heyward goes anywhere, he see’s this to the next group or retires, Tomlin fucked him just like he fucked Ben’s last years.

Everyone MUST Go in coaching, we need an entirely new staff, get on with it.

I don’t hate Tomlin but I am incredibly frustrated with WHY he has not progressed as a Head Coach in a league where he has really seen a lot in his time.

It is in his best interest and the Steelers if he would just evolve a little and he has chosen not to.

He obviously has wanted to coach but since 2016 has not put the Steeler in a position to win deep into the playoffs.

This has been the most frustrating thing as a fan of the Steelers, and for the life of me I cannot understand why Tomlin has not taken the steps to get his team in the right position to win.

Looking back that loss against the Jacksonville Jaguars when the Steelers should’ve gone to the Super Bowl quite possibly is a downfall of his decision-making.

I can’t explain why hasn’t learned anything since that loss he’s screwed by the last year‘s have been Ben’s career, and now doesn’t have any kind of path with a new quarterback or offensive scheme.

Seriously wondering if I am seeing what happened to Chuck Noll and the late 80s I hope so because for the life of me I don’t think there’s any other direction for the Steelers go.

[Steelafan77]

NO current Coaching Staff would remain.

Players currently on the roster worth keeping.

DL Keanu Benton
OL Dylan Cook
SAF Minkah Fitzpatrick
LB Nick Herbig
LB Alex Highsmith
OL Broderick Jones
DL DeMarvin Leal
DL Larry Ogunjobi
CB Joey Porter Jr.
CB Darius Rush
OL Darnell Washington
LB T.J. Watt
TE Rodney Williams
CB Luq Barcoo
LB Tariq Carpenter
OL Kellen Diesch
OL Ryan McCollum

[LakecrestSteeler]

No way Cam Heyward goes anywhere, he see’s this to the next group or retires, Tomlin fucked him just like he fucked Ben’s last years.

Everyone MUST Go in coaching, we need an entirely new staff, get on with it.

I don’t hate Tomlin but I am incredibly frustrated with WHY he has not progressed as a Head Coach in a league where he has really seen a lot in his time.

It is in his best interest and the Steelers if he would just evolve a little and he has chosen not to.

He obviously has wanted to coach but since 2016 has not put the Steeler in a position to win deep into the playoffs.

This has been the most frustrating thing as a fan of the Steelers, and for the life of me I cannot understand why Tomlin has not taken the steps to get his team in the right position to win.

Looking back that loss against the Jacksonville Jaguars when the Steelers should’ve gone to the Super Bowl quite possibly is a downfall of his decision-making.

I can’t explain why hasn’t learned anything since that loss he’s screwed by the last year‘s have been Ben’s career, and now doesn’t have any kind of path with a new quarterback or offensive scheme.

Seriously wondering if I am seeing what happened to Chuck Noll and the late 80s I hope so because for the life of me I don’t think there’s any other direction for the Steelers go.

Probably because Art II wasn’t challenging him in the way that he should have been. Should have been having talks about doing more thru other people…building a coaching tree etc. Art II hould have been exporting coaches too to keep the flow fresh. He is part of the failure.

[Kodiak.]

Probably because Art II wasn’t challenging him in the way that he should have been. Should have been having talks about doing more thru other people…building a coaching tree etc. Art II hould have been exporting coaches too to keep the flow fresh. He is part of the failure.

This is just wrong.

Tomlin should - and almost certainly does - have nearly complete autonomy over coaching decisions. If he did his job to develop coaches - and impressed other teams with his innovations - his assistants would naturally get poached. And, ideally, you'd skim the cream. That's what Cowher did, basically.

The simplest explanation is usually best: Tomlin doesn't have a coaching tree because he just not good and never has been. My guess is it's a combination of not wanting to hire someone who might replace him, and the same attitude that shoes Najee out of his office to "figure it out" on his own.

"Exporting coaches"?!? WTF - if you're good and innovative, other teams naturally want your coaches to try to copy what you're doing.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Probably because Art II wasn’t challenging him in the way that he should have been. Should have been having talks about doing more thru other people…building a coaching tree etc. Art II hould have been exporting coaches too to keep the flow fresh. He is part of the failure.

This is just wrong.

Tomlin should - and almost certainly does - have nearly complete autonomy over coaching decisions. If he did his job to develop coaches - and impressed other teams with his innovations - his assistants would naturally get poached. And, ideally, you'd skim the cream. That's what Cowher did, basically.

The simplest explanation is usually best: Tomlin doesn't have a coaching tree because he just not good and never has been. My guess is it's a combination of not wanting to hire someone who might replace him, and the same attitude that shoes Najee out of his office to "figure it out" on his own.

"Exporting coaches"?!? WTF - if you're good and innovative, other teams naturally want your coaches to try to copy what you're doing.

How can you make such a bullheaded statement as this is just wrong? No you are wrong! Come on!

Every successful person has champions above pulling them and/or people below pushing them up.

My point is Art II should have been challenging him or mentoring him is whole career. If Tomlin did indeed did have full autonomy than that makes my point. We of course can only speculate. Art II should have intervened in an opportunity area, exported or fired some coaches and told Tomlin that he needs to work on getting more people with certain characteristics that would flourish into a coaching tree or would take more of role in the organization.

Or Art II could have warned about not delegating or meddling too much in other squads. Art II shares blame whether he was too hands off or Tomlin was too stubborn…he is the damn owner. Up to him to course correct too.

If he is not hiring innovative coaches where the hell is the owner to course correct on that? If Tomlin is using good ole boy hiring practices…where is the course correction on that from HR at NFL and/or Steeler level?

[cop1211]

Offense keep Jones and the two guards, and Warren. Everyone else on offense can go/be traded.

Defense keep Benton, Porter,Herbig, everyone else can go/traded.
Create as much cap space possible this year, and next.
Load up on as many draft picks as possible, trade down in this draft in the first (maybe twice) and do the same in the second to again get as many picks possible in this draft, and the next.
Become the youngest team in the league, and emphasize speed on the entire roster.
Fire the entire coaching staff.

None of which is going to happen.
Tomlin and Pickett will be back next year. Only difference will be a new OC which if Tomlin has any input will suck.

[bradshaw2ben]

I don't know how you guys can count anyone on this roster out the way they've been coached. Trade Tomlin for a high pick, have a good draft and offseason and this roster isn't that far away from competing with a really good coaching staff. They've been the opposite of coached up. I wouldn't do a complete rebuild until the new coach has a season to see what he can do with what they have.

To me this is the 1969 team upon Noll’s arrival: “Most of you won’t be here.”

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

I don't know how you guys can count anyone on this roster out the way they've been coached. Trade Tomlin for a high pick, have a good draft and offseason and this roster isn't that far away from competing with a really good coaching staff. They've been the opposite of coached up. I wouldn't do a complete rebuild until the new coach has a season to see what he can do with what they have.

It should be absolutely alarming to hear Kevin Dotson, playing well, talking about being moved back to RG in LA. That alone should be get anyone associated with this offensive line fired tomorrow. Terrible asset management, and given the money and draft picks thrown at the offensive line, the results are downright season destroying.

That's where I start, I get rid of Pat Meyer and I spend for an offensive line coach, and for the most part I replace the entire offensive position coach tree from the coordinator on down. No more friends and family hiring.

Defensively I don't think it's quite as bad... for an NFL defense at least.. I think there are depth issues for sure, but the league isn't made for shut down defenses... so I'd rather focus on the offense to start. Personnel wise, the only must is to upgrade at C for sure.... that's killing them right now,

[RemoAZ]

I don't know how you guys can count anyone on this roster out the way they've been coached. Trade Tomlin for a high pick, have a good draft and offseason and this roster isn't that far away from competing with a really good coaching staff. They've been the opposite of coached up. I wouldn't do a complete rebuild until the new coach has a season to see what he can do with what they have.

It should be absolutely alarming to hear Kevin Dotson, playing well, talking about being moved back to RG in LA. That alone should be get anyone associated with this offensive line fired tomorrow. Terrible asset management, and given the money and draft picks thrown at the offensive line, the results are downright season destroying.

That's where I start, I get rid of Pat Meyer and I spend for an offensive line coach, and for the most part I replace the entire offensive position coach tree from the coordinator on down. No more friends and family hiring.

Defensively I don't think it's quite as bad... for an NFL defense at least.. I think there are depth issues for sure, but the league isn't made for shut down defenses... so I'd rather focus on the offense to start. Personnel wise, the only must is to upgrade at C for sure.... that's killing them right now,

The defense is coached just as poorly as the offense imo. Unless they get several big time individual efforts that result in turnovers and/or points, they have a bad game. You rarely see anyone moving around or exotic blitzes or coverages. It's a basic, line them up and let them play scheme. That's why Tomlin gets shredded in big games/playoffs. Other teams are changing things up and scheming to win. Tomlin is doing what he does which means nothing.

[Stallworth16]

Rebuilding is what teams call it when they suck for 2 to 8 years. No rebuild. You get the best players you can and build your depth chart, with young and older players. It starts with the players we already have. The goal is to win games, not rebuild.

The elephant in the room is Mike Tomlin and the coaching staff. If they are fired, Steelers have to choose that next hire correctly. if you screw that up, nothing else is going to matter as far as rebuilding.

[tbsteel]

(since no one would take him at his contract price, Highsmith

Great post overall, but I do think we could get a solid return for Highsmith if we were interested. Any team that's big on analytics would love him and he's arguably having his best year yet overall. He's still in that second tier of EDGE guys, maybe towards the lower end of that group. Teams are going to have plenty of cap space next year and his cap hit is only in the mid teens. Two years from now that contract will look like a steal!

[meanjustinbarlow]

My rules for a rebuild are basically:
1. Trade or cut everyone who is over the age of 29 and or is overpriced, although you get to keep 1 guy (or maybe 2 if they're superstars) who are cheap or a HOFer and not going to be washed up before the end of 2025 season.
2. Guarantee no starting job to anyone who isn't great.

DEFENSE
1. find Cam a decent home unless he wants to retire a Steelers for life
2. Keep TJ (although listen to offers and think long and hard about moving him for the right price)
3. Keep Minkah, Benton, JPJ, and (since no one would take him at his contract price, Highsmith

OFFENSE
1. Jaylen Warren is a Steeler until he is eligible for C$2. Sign him at the right price but don't overpay
2. bring in 3 QBs who either can play above-average football or who have tremendous physical/processing upside. Move Pickett unless he can legit beat out all three
3. Keep Broderick Jones

I think pretty much all the others aren't going to be on the team in two years anyway, so why not clean house/get what you can in return. I'm not going to miss any of them, even the ones with some talent but poor character.

Steelers are the 7th oldest team in the league so there is definitely a need for a youth movement.

DEFENSE
If you are looking at what the bones of the defense are, I agree, Minkah, Benton, JPJ, Herbig and Highsmith aren't going anywhere. Watt should not, but if there is a Herschel Walker-like deal to be had, think it over. It is just so hard to get an elite EDGE in the NFL and without one you are at such a deficit. But in any event you have the following defense

EDGE - Strong w Watt, Highsmith, and Herbig
DT - Benton and then a lot of work needed. Heyward deserves to be traded to the Eagles or Lions where he can be part of a championship team. or maybe the Falcons if they end up getting Fields too. Hook him up. Let him win a title.
ILB - start over - Holcomb/Kwon are injury prone and cant be trusted
Nickel/SS - I lump these two together because they are coalescing into the same position in the NFL. Need long fluid players here. Perhaps they can find overlooked tweeners in the same way the 90s Steelers cultivated DE/OLB tweeners. These are LB/Safety guys.
CB - JPJ will need a sidekick.
FS - Minkah needs an understudy. Maybe it can be Pat P? Surely he is done as a man-to-man guy.

Thats 5 guys you can count on defensively and a need to grab around 10 legit contributors starters/depth. Lots of work to do.

OFFENSE
It's not pretty here, but I think at least TE and RB are in decent shape. I actually see more worth keeping on reflection than I originally thought.

WR - starting here because it is the root of the cultural rot. Trade Diontae and Pickens asap. The attitudes are so broken it's not worth trying to salvage. These kids don't care, and it's beyond standard WR diva stuff. We will rebuild it later. Burn it all down.
OC - Poaching from Kyle Shannahan or Mike McDaniel's staff, McVay or even Demeco Ryans is a must. The modern game needs to come to town or we will just ruin more players.
QB - Send Mitch to a gulag for his lazy, disinterested performance. What an insult from this man to throw that many balls off his back foot into coverage. Just admit you dont want to play football. Jacoby Brissett can come in and be a huge upgrade. Draft whatever reachable QB carries the most upside in round 3 but save the big swing at the position for 2025.
OL - There are actually 3 pieces here I am not against keeping. Jones is the centerpiece and has been a stud. Daniels can be moved to center, and Seumalu has played well. Move jones to LT and rebuild the right side of the line. That isnt as bad as it sounds. Herbig could move to RG and RT could be drafted. Coaching can help a lot here.
RB - Warren is a keeper, and Harris's value is so low now that I think it will be fine to just ride him out another year and see if the turnaround of the team can bring him back. I think he gets an unfair amount of shit, and he is like a Terrel Edmunds. If he had been picked in the 3rd people would be happy to have him. The 1st round pedigree is an albatross around his neck.
TE - Washington will be a stud, and Friermuth needs to stay healthy. Heyward is a valuable piece. Not much needed here thankfully.

So 7-8 keepers. 2 TEs, 2 RBs, and 3-4 OL. A lot of this is QB play and coaching. Fix that and the team can dramatically improve. But the WRs need to go because they are clearly toxic. It will suck to take the talent downgrade (and it will be a downgrade), but give me guys with a Hines Ward attitude vs these losers. They are the definition of losers. Let them go ruin someone else's team.

[StillerInCT]

Any rebuild has to start with clearing out the entire coaching staff minus position guys who may have potential. Until that happens there's no point in even starting. I'll preface this by saying I appreciate Tomlin's service to the organization. He won us a ring and brought us to another Super Bowl which not if not for Socrates in Pads we may have won (Cowher's players or not, it's not an easy feat). But Tomlin has essentially already failed one rebuild, I'm not interested in seeing him do it to another. He's not a motivated coach anymore. He's just not. The evidence is all there on Sundays. 17 years of minimal, if any growth. This entire situation is screaming for a parting of ways.

IF, IF, IF that move happens then I think we have a few pieces we can build around at each level of the team...

1.) Keep Pickett or don't, doesn't matter. We just need someone to keep the seat warm while we do the rest of my project. I say run out his contract and maybe there's a chance his career can be salvaged by a motivated coach.
2.) Re-build the offensive line around Jones. DO NOT get the QB until the line is established. I firmly believe in this. A huge reason Ben succeeded was because he built the early confidence behind a top-tier, veteran offensive line.
3.) Keep Jaylen Warren steps in as the starting RB. Don't care what happens to Najee. Cut him if it saves money.
4.) Re-Build the defensive line with pieces like Benton. Ask Cam to take a massive pay cut or cut him if it saves money. I feel for Cam. Never played enough football that mattered but he's a Steelers legend in my book. Will always love the guy. He deserves to retire in Heinz field and frankly, he'd be good to have around to mentor the young d-line.
5.) Re-build the LBs around Highsmith. Nick Herbig might be a nice piece too. The conundrum becomes TJ Watt. I'd love to keep him, but if we're intent on a rebuild, I'd trade him for the draft picks we can get.
6.) Secondary has a few nice pieces already. JPJ is a nice piece to build around. Fitzpatrick, see if he'll take a pay cut. Very smart player that the younger guys we bring in can learn from.
7.) Special teams. Not sure I really care. I like Boswell so I'm keeping him. He's reliable in a stadium that's not the easiest to kick in.

Another thing I consider:

- Trade Pickens. This relationship looks very sour and he's clearly not happy. I don't think he'll sign $C2 so let's get the picks we can for him and call it a win given where he was drafted. Elite talent, but he's being wasted more than any other player in the NFL. Send him to the Texans. They might be willing to part ways with one of their 2 first rounders and Stroud would flourish with Pickens.

[W&M_Steeler]

Warren and B. Jones are the only two from the offense I'd definitely keep. DJ and Pickens have to go, and I'd put Muth (who also seems to be a pouter) on the GTFO Bus as well. The offense needs a purging and an exorcism.

Defense,: Watt, Minkah, JPJ, Benton, Highsmith. Cam should retire. Everyone else is replaceable.

This team is on the precipice of a full-blown rebuild.

[StillerInCT]

Warren and B. Jones are the only two from the offense I'd definitely keep. DJ and Pickens have to go, and I'd put Muth (who also seems to be a pouter) on the GTFO Bus as well. The offense needs a purging and an exorcism.

Defense,: Watt, Minkah, JPJ, Benton, Highsmith. Cam should retire. Everyone else is replaceable.

This team is on the precipice of a full-blown rebuild.

Offense I'd like to see us figure out how to get the best out of Washington. Physical freak.