I Think I Think I agree with Peter King

[Steeldrama]

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I think the more I see George Pickens loaf, the more I think I wouldn’t want the man on my team.

I Think I Think I agree.
I Think I can Think of numerous insulting words fitting for Pickens.
Sorry Peter, "loaf" is too kind, and "man" doesn't qualify.
Not a "Damn good 'Dawg."

I Think I Think" that the Steelers have some major house cleaning to do in the character department.

Bye-Bye Najee, DJ, and HOPEFULLY, George.
Any other poor character guys in need of jettisoning?

What a rudderless, sinking ship the S.S. Tomlin has devolved into.

Who are the leaders on this team?
The now suddenly brittle Minkah at least shouted it out with DJ.
Any other examples I'm missing?

Someone?
Something?

Watt? Suwanee GA's own Cam Heyward??
I THINK I THINK y'all are just there to cash your enormous checks and wash Tomlin's balls.

I Think I Think this is one hell of a mess.

WHO is going to clean it up?

[StillerInCT]

I trade Pickens, not because of his attitude, but because we can get something of value and he's wasted here. Everyone is piling on him for his attitude, but he's a young, hungry guy playing for a leader that's checked out and an offense suited for youth football. This is ultimately costing him money on contract 2. Just a poor landing spot for him. Put him on just about any other team and you're talking about a pro bowler.

Offer him to the Texans. They have 2 first rounders I believe so maybe we can entice them to part with one of those or a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Pairing Stroud and Pickens would be a sight to watch. Right now the guy is catching soft toss from Pickett.

[tbsteel]

Cam is just a puppet of Tomlin. That dude will never step out of line, for better or worse.

It cracked me up this offseason when the league's "top RBs" had that conference call about the inequality of their pay and Najee was included. 1) You know Najee had to petition to be on that call and they were begrudgingly like "Alright, let's let ole Thunder Thighs on the call just so he'll shut up about it" and 2) He has been outplayed by his UDFA backup two straight years now, maybe he should worry about his own business rather than being some spokesman for the league.

I'm out on Pickens. He's a loser 13-year-old. Dealing with adversity? Sure, no doubt about it. But he's absolutely folded and quit in response to it. You don't win big games and championships depending on a coward like that. If you can get a top 100 pick for him, I'd deal him.

Watt comes across as a natural introvert who just focuses on his work and his craft. Not a natural leader. Minkah ain't that guy either. Hell, he ran out of Miami because he wasn't getting to play they way he wanted to play.

Never before has the team needed to depend on Tomlin's leadership, and strategy/schemes more so than this year's team in all of Tomlin's 17 seasons. There is no Dick Lebeau in that locker room. No James Farrior or Hines Ward types. We're seeing the results now.

[KCSteeler]

I trade Pickens, not because of his attitude, but because we can get something of value and he's wasted here. Everyone is piling on him for his attitude, but he's a young, hungry guy playing for a leader that's checked out and an offense suited for youth football. This is ultimately costing him money on contract 2. Just a poor landing spot for him. Put him on just about any other team and you're talking about a pro bowler.

Offer him to the Texans. They have 2 first rounders I believe so maybe we can entice them to part with one of those or a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Pairing Stroud and Pickens would be a sight to watch. Right now the guy is catching soft toss from Pickett.

You are cutting him an awful lot of slack. He might be young, but there is nothing he does that would indicate he's "hungry". If anything, he isn't hungry enough. He doesn't finish blocks, takes plays off, runs poor routes and appears to be a whiner. If Tomlin really sat down with him this past week to address his attitude and this was the result, well good luck and god bless. In the words of Tom Petty, "time to move on, time to get goin'".

[Professor Half Wit]

Cam is just a puppet of Tomlin. That dude will never step out of line, for better or worse.

It cracked me up this offseason when the league's "top RBs" had that conference call about the inequality of their pay and Najee was included. 1) You know Najee had to petition to be on that call and they were begrudgingly like "Alright, let's let ole Thunder Thighs on the call just so he'll shut up about it" and 2) He has been outplayed by his UDFA backup two straight years now, maybe he should worry about his own business rather than being some spokesman for the league.

I'm out on Pickens. He's a loser 13-year-old. Dealing with adversity? Sure, no doubt about it. But he's absolutely folded and quit in response to it. You don't win big games and championships depending on a coward like that. If you can get a top 100 pick for him, I'd deal him.

Watt comes across as a natural introvert who just focuses on his work and his craft. Not a natural leader. Minkah ain't that guy either. Hell, he ran out of Miami because he wasn't getting to play they way he wanted to play.

Never before has the team needed to depend on Tomlin's leadership, and strategy/schemes more so than this year's team in all of Tomlin's 17 seasons. There is no Dick Lebeau in that locker room. No James Farrior or Hines Ward types. We're seeing the results now.

Hard disagree on Minkah.

[StillerInCT]

I trade Pickens, not because of his attitude, but because we can get something of value and he's wasted here. Everyone is piling on him for his attitude, but he's a young, hungry guy playing for a leader that's checked out and an offense suited for youth football. This is ultimately costing him money on contract 2. Just a poor landing spot for him. Put him on just about any other team and you're talking about a pro bowler.

Offer him to the Texans. They have 2 first rounders I believe so maybe we can entice them to part with one of those or a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Pairing Stroud and Pickens would be a sight to watch. Right now the guy is catching soft toss from Pickett.

You are cutting him an awful lot of slack. He might be young, but there is nothing he does that would indicate he's "hungry". If anything, he isn't hungry enough. He doesn't finish blocks, takes plays off, runs poor routes and appears to be a whiner. If Tomlin really sat down with him this past week to address his attitude and this was the result, well good luck and god bless. In the words of Tom Petty, "time to move on, time to get goin'".

I'm cutting him a lot of slack. He was a immature at Georgia and went to a leaderless team. He should have never been drafted here in the first place. It seems like we drafted him to block which is insane to me.

[RemoAZ]

I don't trade him unless I get a high pick until I get a new coaching staff to work with him. I still say there's talent on this team a new coach can win with after a solid off season.

[Jobu]

Cam is just a puppet of Tomlin. That dude will never step out of line, for better or worse.

Of course he won’t…Shades did him a solid by giving his JAG younger brother a job when very likely, no one else would have.

[langer]

I thought the official sf style guide requires the name "Peter King" to be replaced with "The Fat Fuck Peter King" in all instances.

[Steeldrama]

I trade Pickens, not because of his attitude, but because we can get something of value and he's wasted here. Everyone is piling on him for his attitude, but he's a young, hungry guy playing for a leader that's checked out and an offense suited for youth football. This is ultimately costing him money on contract 2. Just a poor landing spot for him. Put him on just about any other team and you're talking about a pro bowler.

Offer him to the Texans. They have 2 first rounders I believe so maybe we can entice them to part with one of those or a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Pairing Stroud and Pickens would be a sight to watch. Right now the guy is catching soft toss from Pickett.

You are cutting him an awful lot of slack. He might be young, but there is nothing he does that would indicate he's "hungry". If anything, he isn't hungry enough. He doesn't finish blocks, takes plays off, runs poor routes and appears to be a whiner. If Tomlin really sat down with him this past week to address his attitude and this was the result, well good luck and god bless. In the words of Tom Petty, "time to move on, time to get goin'".

This ^

Kids like Pickens and Najee were not only spoiled by
an established culture of winning at Bama and Georgia but they were enabled and afforded every luxury amenity that even NFL teams can’t match.

At least Kirby benched Pickens a time or two for his dawgshit attitude

Were they hungry?
For titles??
Maybe
But think titles just a biproduct of the coaches and progrums they were well paid to play for.

More like hungry to beat out fellow 5 stars so they could get drafted to the NFL then easy street with Tomlin

“Stay late and watch film coach?”
“Sorry Najee gotta get home to watch the Flintstones with my boy Dino”

[DP39]

Regarding Pickens:

Let me first say that I don't like seeing him give a really shitty effort on some/many plays. I think he's smart enough to see how things worked in college, and now in the NFL. There are plenty of dumb (or misguided), lazy, immature players out there (Claypool), but I really feel like Pickens is being partially calculated in his actions (acting out). In college he knew he could act out a little, but he also knew that college (in a top 5 FB program) was a means to an end -- getting paid in the NFL.

Now that he's in the NFL, and playing under MT, he's realized that he's not going to get paid (in 1-2 years) what his true market value is/should be, given his obvious FB talent. I believe he's smart enough to see the writing on the wall and has decided several plans of action that HE can control. Not saying I agree with his plans, but I could understand them.

He's chosen plans that have seemed to work with talented players in the NFL, and ones that also seem to have very little downside for him/his career. One, make it so they HAVE to trade you (to a team that has a better O -- so, basically any team ). And two, while you do that, make sure you don't get hurt/take unnecessary body damage while doing so -- thus limited blocking/tackling.

Also, he probably realizes that IF he doesn't get traded that his plan may cause another secondary reaction that helps his cause -- getting MT removed (traded/fired/retired) from his future money problem equation!

That's what I think he's doing, as he see's them as options with lesser downside, and quicker results, than the status quo he's been dealing with. I could wrong.

[955876]

The pre-draft scouting reports had red flags due to him being an immature baby who’s been enabled his whole life.

And he’s done nothing to prove that wrong since he’s been here.

For all the jabberin Jibbs does about elevating young black men he sure as shit doesn’t do a good job of it.

Just more coddling and enabling.

[Louis Lipps Service]

Trading Pickens only forces us to draft yet another talented WR who will promptly whine and sulk when he plays for this offense...and realizes he can do just that and get away with it.

How many times do we have to see it happen under this leadership group before we realize it's the symptom, not the disease?

Now, if your reasoning is that Tomlin isn't getting fired this year, and it's perfectly obvious that Pickens isn't going to work under Tomlin, so might as well get a draft pick for him now (which we hopefully use on more linemen), then I can buy into that.

But I'm personally not going to label Pickens when he's clearly just following the same path nearly every other talented WR under the Tomlin reign has followed.

As I said in another thread, if it's an exception, blame the person/player. If it's a trend, blame the leadership.

[Steelperch]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... peter-king

I think the more I see George Pickens loaf, the more I think I wouldn’t want the man on my team.

I Think I Think I agree.
I Think I can Think of numerous insulting words fitting for Pickens.
Sorry Peter, "loaf" is too kind, and "man" doesn't qualify.
Not a "Damn good 'Dawg."

I Think I Think" that the Steelers have some major house cleaning to do in the character department.

Bye-Bye Najee, DJ, and HOPEFULLY, George.
Any other poor character guys in need of jettisoning?

What a rudderless, sinking ship the S.S. Tomlin has devolved into.

Who are the leaders on this team?
The now suddenly brittle Minkah at least shouted it out with DJ.
Any other examples I'm missing?

Someone?
Something?

Watt? Suwanee GA's own Cam Heyward??
I THINK I THINK y'all are just there to cash your enormous checks and wash Tomlin's balls.

I Think I Think this is one hell of a mess.

WHO is going to clean it up?

Out of couriousity, which quality NFL WRs out there do you think would happily come to Pittsburgh, run 0-5 yard routes, get 3 targets a game, play with shitty QB play, and do it with a smile on their face week after week for multiple years and give maximum effort running routes where they know they won’t get the ball and block their hardest?

Can you name one?

[the-other-burg]

As much as this team needs talent at WR, they need the kind of talent that acts mature, especially since they wont be playing with an established QB.

As it stands right now, Pickens contributions on this team don't outweigh the negatives. In his defense, thats not his fault. He can be a star WR with a good experienced QB.

If they can get good draft value for him, they should definitely consider trading him,

We need players that can thrive during a rebuild.

[StillerInCT]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... peter-king

I think the more I see George Pickens loaf, the more I think I wouldn’t want the man on my team.

I Think I Think I agree.
I Think I can Think of numerous insulting words fitting for Pickens.
Sorry Peter, "loaf" is too kind, and "man" doesn't qualify.
Not a "Damn good 'Dawg."

I Think I Think" that the Steelers have some major house cleaning to do in the character department.

Bye-Bye Najee, DJ, and HOPEFULLY, George.
Any other poor character guys in need of jettisoning?

What a rudderless, sinking ship the S.S. Tomlin has devolved into.

Who are the leaders on this team?
The now suddenly brittle Minkah at least shouted it out with DJ.
Any other examples I'm missing?

Someone?
Something?

Watt? Suwanee GA's own Cam Heyward??
I THINK I THINK y'all are just there to cash your enormous checks and wash Tomlin's balls.

I Think I Think this is one hell of a mess.

WHO is going to clean it up?

Out of couriousity, which quality NFL WRs out there do you think would happily come to Pittsburgh, run 0-5 yard routes, get 3 targets a game, play with shitty QB play, and do it with a smile on their face week after week for multiple years and give maximum effort running routes where they know they won’t get the ball and block their hardest?

Can you name one?

None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

We drafted an uber-talented, yet immature 21-year old wide receiver last year. You have a head coach who notoriously will not mentor his players even though he's a "players" coach. Then you stick said WR in an offense that hardly utilizes him and when they do it's either to bail us out on 3rd and a mile or as an extension of the running game. He should be pissed.

He should be a focal point of the offense. This team just shows how unserious they are about winning when they refuse to use his best asset.

[Deebo]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... peter-king

I think the more I see George Pickens loaf, the more I think I wouldn’t want the man on my team.

I Think I Think I agree.
I Think I can Think of numerous insulting words fitting for Pickens.
Sorry Peter, "loaf" is too kind, and "man" doesn't qualify.
Not a "Damn good 'Dawg."

I Think I Think" that the Steelers have some major house cleaning to do in the character department.

Bye-Bye Najee, DJ, and HOPEFULLY, George.
Any other poor character guys in need of jettisoning?

What a rudderless, sinking ship the S.S. Tomlin has devolved into.

Who are the leaders on this team?
The now suddenly brittle Minkah at least shouted it out with DJ.
Any other examples I'm missing?

Someone?
Something?

Watt? Suwanee GA's own Cam Heyward??
I THINK I THINK y'all are just there to cash your enormous checks and wash Tomlin's balls.

I Think I Think this is one hell of a mess.

WHO is going to clean it up?

So I'm in no way condoning his effort on the block or the INT. It's flat out inexcusable.

But this story is being used to deflect criticism of Tomlin. It's the national media who creates storylines so people avoid discussing Tomlin.

Also note this is the 2nd time in like 3 weeks (DJ vs Cincy) that we're questioning a WR's effort. I was told that Tomlin's strength is getting players to play hard? Is that no longer true?

[Steeldrama]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... peter-king



I Think I Think I agree.
I Think I can Think of numerous insulting words fitting for Pickens.
Sorry Peter, "loaf" is too kind, and "man" doesn't qualify.
Not a "Damn good 'Dawg."

I Think I Think" that the Steelers have some major house cleaning to do in the character department.

Bye-Bye Najee, DJ, and HOPEFULLY, George.
Any other poor character guys in need of jettisoning?

What a rudderless, sinking ship the S.S. Tomlin has devolved into.

Who are the leaders on this team?
The now suddenly brittle Minkah at least shouted it out with DJ.
Any other examples I'm missing?

Someone?
Something?

Watt? Suwanee GA's own Cam Heyward??
I THINK I THINK y'all are just there to cash your enormous checks and wash Tomlin's balls.

I Think I Think this is one hell of a mess.

WHO is going to clean it up?

Out of couriousity, which quality NFL WRs out there do you think would happily come to Pittsburgh, run 0-5 yard routes, get 3 targets a game, play with shitty QB play, and do it with a smile on their face week after week for multiple years and give maximum effort running routes where they know they won’t get the ball and block their hardest?

Can you name one?

None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

We drafted an uber-talented, yet immature 21-year old wide receiver last year. You have a head coach who notoriously will not mentor his players even though he's a "players" coach. Then you stick said WR in an offense that hardly utilizes him and when they do it's either to bail us out on 3rd and a mile or as an extension of the running game. He should be pissed.

He should be a focal point of the offense. This team just shows how unserious they are about winning when they refuse to use his best asset.

Sooo now Jaylen Warren can come to work next week and not do his job because he’s upset that Pickens failure to do his job is going to cost HIM money on his C2?

That’d be a helluva domino effect.
What if the whole team took George’s sore loser approach?

My guess is Warren will come in and bust his ass like he always does and you know not quit during a nationally televised game.

Neither of you are incorrect in your line of thinking but George is taking the unprofessional/highly immature way to dealing with his discontent no matter how justified you both feel he is.

Whiole team is fucked with Tomlin coaching
You don’t see the whole team acting like a complete George Pickens jerkoff

What makes him so special?

[StillerInCT]

Out of couriousity, which quality NFL WRs out there do you think would happily come to Pittsburgh, run 0-5 yard routes, get 3 targets a game, play with shitty QB play, and do it with a smile on their face week after week for multiple years and give maximum effort running routes where they know they won’t get the ball and block their hardest?

Can you name one?

None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

We drafted an uber-talented, yet immature 21-year old wide receiver last year. You have a head coach who notoriously will not mentor his players even though he's a "players" coach. Then you stick said WR in an offense that hardly utilizes him and when they do it's either to bail us out on 3rd and a mile or as an extension of the running game. He should be pissed.

He should be a focal point of the offense. This team just shows how unserious they are about winning when they refuse to use his best asset.

Sooo now Jaylen Warren can come to work next week and not do his job because he’s upset that Pickens failure to do his job is going to cost HIM money on his C2?

That’d be a helluva domino effect.
What if the whole team took George’s sore loser approach?

My guess is Warren will come in and bust his ass like he always does and you know not quit during a nationally televised game.

Neither of you are incorrect in your line of thinking but George is taking the unprofessional/highly immature way to dealing with his discontent no matter how justified you both feel he is.

Whiole team is fucked with Tomlin coaching
You don’t see the whole team acting like a complete George Pickens jerkoff

What makes him so special?

Who on this team do you think is working hard besides maybe 3 or 4 guys? Despite what the record says this is one of the worst Steelers teams in the Super Bowl era. He's not the only one who has quit. He was just the one that was easy to spot. Hell, Tomlin himself has basically quiet quit. So no, I'm not going to single out a 22 year old Pickens, who we knew had maturity issues, and drafted him to a team without a leader into an offense that was never going to utilize his strengths.

[KCSteeler]

Regarding Pickens:

Let me first say that I don't like seeing him give a really shitty effort on some/many plays. I think he's smart enough to see how things worked in college, and now in the NFL. There are plenty of dumb (or misguided), lazy, immature players out there (Claypool), but I really feel like Pickens is being partially calculated in his actions (acting out). In college he knew he could act out a little, but he also knew that college (in a top 5 FB program) was a means to an end -- getting paid in the NFL.

Now that he's in the NFL, and playing under MT, he's realized that he's not going to get paid (in 1-2 years) what his true market value is/should be, given his obvious FB talent. I believe he's smart enough to see the writing on the wall and has decided several plans of action that HE can control. Not saying I agree with his plans, but I could understand them.

He's chosen plans that have seemed to work with talented players in the NFL, and ones that also seem to have very little downside for him/his career. One, make it so they HAVE to trade you (to a team that has a better O -- so, basically any team ). And two, while you do that, make sure you don't get hurt/take unnecessary body damage while doing so -- thus limited blocking/tackling.

Also, he probably realizes that IF he doesn't get traded that his plan may cause another secondary reaction that helps his cause -- getting MT removed (traded/fired/retired) from his future money problem equation!

That's what I think he's doing, as he see's them as options with lesser downside, and quicker results, than the status quo he's been dealing with. I could wrong.

Great stuff.

What makes it more annoying for me is the fact that there is PLENTY of film out there where Pickens would destroy guys blocking straight off the line. On the Warren play, literally all he has to do is get in the way and Warren cuts outside of him for a cake, easy touchdown. Lazy and sloppy is a piss poor combination of attributes, especially for someone with his ability.

These guys are lost and don't care. Tomlin is lost. While I think he cares, there is nothing he can do. He basically admitted that at the press conference Saturday. He said the team lacked fundamental soundness. He followed that up with saying he didn't have answers. His message is stale, the team doesn't care. It is time for him to move on.

[cop1211]

Trade his ass. What’s the over/ under he is a locker room cancer.

I called it on this dude his rookie year.

[CKSteeler]

I think the biggest indictment of Tomlin that no one is talking about is that he's built a team full of low-character idiots.

TJ Watt supposedly told Rich Eisen it's "wild" to him that guys on the team aren't responding to Tomlin's message. But that's the rub...it isn't wild because Tomlin has brought in guys like Pickens. And he shrugs off all their transgressions and defends them.

And Mike Tomlin does pick his groceries. No one is being forced on him. He had George Pickens over to his house for Thanksgiving. Diontae Johnson is supposedly a Tomlin favorite. From top to bottom, the roster is a reflection of Tomlin for better or worse.

[Gonzo]

The Pittsburgh Steelers need a QB and a HC …. And go from there
They don’t have either right now and the tape is the tape
Shitcan the lot …. Maybe keep Warren. jones and Benton
The rest can go

[StillerDownSouth]

I'd trade his ass the day the season ends, need to send a message that his type of attitude and effort will not be accepted, I'd also make sure I traded him to the next shittiest team in the league, which would be the Giants, who need receivers.

[955876]

And Mike Tomlin does pick his groceries. No one is being forced on him. He had George Pickens over to his house for Thanksgiving. Diontae Johnson is supposedly a Tomlin favorite. From top to bottom, the roster is a reflection of Tomlin for better or worse.

That right there displays a serious lack of character that most likely can’t be fixed as it is simply who they are.

You break bread with someone on Thanksgiving then shit on them that takes a serious turd of a person.

[CKSteeler]

And Mike Tomlin does pick his groceries. No one is being forced on him. He had George Pickens over to his house for Thanksgiving. Diontae Johnson is supposedly a Tomlin favorite. From top to bottom, the roster is a reflection of Tomlin for better or worse.

That right there displays a serious lack of character that most likely can’t be fixed as it is simply who they are.

You break bread with someone on Thanksgiving then shit on them that takes a serious turd of a person.

That's the thing. Tomlin is really trying to reach Pickens, I suspect, and he just can't break through. But Tomlin probably almost certainly had a big hand in drafting the guy and dismissed any questions about his character outright (though, what was he really going to do there?).

I do not hate Tomlin the man, though I think he has a lot of ego and shakes off accountability.

Some talking heads have made references to things they've "heard" from sources, but no specifics. So we are likely only scratching the surface of what an asshole the guy truly is.

I may be too hard n Tomlin with the assessment of the character of the team overall. But there are a few very noticeable assholes and they are guys associated with him. Mainly the two dumbass WR's.

[955876]

That's the thing. Tomlin is really trying to reach Pickens, I suspect, and he just can't break through

That says either (a) Jibbs is really bad at this shit or (b) Pickens is of such poor character that he becomes not worth the trouble.

Or both.

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

Pickens probably ran more complicated stuff at Georgia, was probably more communicated with at Georgia.

Then he gets here, and as a football guy (same with Najee), they are introduced to Matt Canada and his high school offense. They aren't talked to, there is no detail in what they are doing, the work ethic of the team is not at all what they are used to, Matt Canada has that stupid hat on during preseason, Mike Tomlin doesn't seem to work, ever. The offensive line has guys switching positions for no reason, then some of those guys go to other teams and suddenly look great... at their old position.

During the season, you start losing games, you start seeing the same pointless plays being called again and again, your easily covered by 2 or 3 guys because they know exactly where you are going, they are laughing at you... calling the play out right in front of you. You don't see any adjustment from the coaching staff, hell they don't even talk like its a problem... it's just "execution". You talk to a few guys from college, all with much difference experiences in their coaching staff and what they are doing on offense.

You finally see the idiot in the stupid hat get fired, but nothing really changes... there is no time.. it's too late to change the high school offense, and the guys who took over are pretty much the same.

You take routes off, you don't block... what's the point, the whole thing is a rudderless ship... the players know, this is clueless coaching staff, demanding "execution" to cover for their failing attempt of running an NFL team.

[langer]

Pickets probably ran more complicated stuff at Georgia, was probably more communicated with at Georgia.

Then he gets here, and as a football guy (same with Najee), they are introduced to Matt Canada and his high school offense. They aren't talked to, there is no detail in what they are doing, the work ethic of the team is not at all what they are used to, Matt Canada has that stupid hat on during preseason, Mike Tomlin doesn't seem to work, ever. The offensive line has guys switching positions for no reason, then some of those guys go to other teams and suddenly look great... at their old position.

During the season, you start losing games, you start seeing the same pointless plays being called again and again, your easily covered by 2 or 3 guys because they know exactly where you are going, they are laughing at you... calling the play out right in front of you. You don't see any adjustment from the coaching staff, hell they don't even talk like its a problem... it's just "execution". You talk to a few guys from college, all with much difference experiences in their coaching staff and what they are doing on offense.

You finally see the idiot in the stupid hat get fired, but nothing really changes... there is no time.. it's too late to change the high school offense, and the guys who took over are pretty much the same.

You take routes off, you don't block... what's the point, the whole thing is a rudderless ship... the players know, this is clueless coaching staff, demanding "execution" to cover for their failing attempt of running an NFL team.

You can only ask someone to take so much shit before they find a way to have an equilibrium. If it is a "fuck it, this sucks" attitude, that's what will happen. Most likely if Pickens were on a team with Ben things would be different. At least he'd have someone advocating on his side and managing expectations and personality.

I've said it for years that the team needs a squad of sports psychologists to correct things.

I look at both Coach and Rooney and can see why that hasn't happened. They're just low-IQ and low-EQ people. idiots. We're not talking progressive thinkers that can deal with the psychology of athletes.

They can bullshit all day long though.

How about this...the reason AB didnt lose it all those years wasn't Coach but Ben. There is no one on the offense that has that kind of stature. Maybe they thought Mitch would be that guy. Idiots.

[Steeldrama]

I guess I don’t get the logic some of you have excusing Pickens because he has bad coaches:

I’ve had a couple bad principals during my time
I didn’t pout or mail it in and just show movies all day.

Students count on me to do my job so that’s what all of us do as professionals right?

We do our jobs to the best of our ability because that’s what we get paid to do.

Don’t get why Pickens is the exception here.
Fuck him.