Tomlin special tonight?

[Stlcrtn1974]

Ravens lost.
Bengals lost.
Home primetime game.
Giants oline missing starters, gave up 8 sacks last week, gave up over 200 yards rushing, getting blown out 28-3.

For just once, I would love to see the Steelers go out and dominate on both sides of the ball like they should against the Giants.

Unfortunately,something tells me we are going to see a Tomlin special.

[tbsteel]

The over/under is 36.5, the lowest line this week in the NFL.

Vegas knows. The only way this thing is a blowout is if our D 1) shuts out the Giants and/or 2) the defense forces multiple turnovers including a defensive TD.

Otherwise, this is going to be a 16-13 shitfest and we'll be right back to talking about if Russ is the answer, or how much better, if any, Russ is compared to Fields. You know, exciting, meaningless sports talk for a team that is *fine* but not really of consequence for where this NFL season ultimately goes.

[Orangesteel]

I’ll blow my lid, but agree it will likely be close. Because Tomlin.

Going into a two week break after losing at home to the Giants would be an epic failure. I think Russell Wilson is on his redemption tour and think he will play well. Don’t let Dexter take the game over and our guys should get open down field.

Start fast please!

[SteelPro]

Prime time home game isn’t a spot Tomlin typically lays an egg. Those usually happen in early 1pm games or the west coast trips against bad opponents. Honestly, I don’t see any of those normal let down games left on the schedule. For sure they will get beat and play like shit a handful of times between now and the end of the season. But they will probably be underdogs in those games.

[Stlcrtn1974]

Prime time home game isn’t a spot Tomlin typically lays an egg. Those usually happen in early 1pm games or the west coast trips against bad opponents.

I can't remember the last time Tomlin had his team play down to the Cowboys level on prime time 2 Sundays ago.

[anpsteel]

Lets hope not

The gauntlet starts in week 10

Skins
Ravens
Browns
Bengals
Browns
Eagles
Ravens
Chiefs
Bengals

IF they split their division games, which is certainly possible, there are 3 losses

I feel like the game against the skins, is the Trap game. There's a loss
Eagles... they always lose to philly L
Chiefs, that's an L

So, that's easily 6 losses in the last 9 games

Could they sweep any of the division teams?? Yeah, but that's no certainty

Could they beat the Skins?? That's the most winnable of the games, outside of the division games.

Anyway- we'll find out what this team is about, soon enough.

[Jizz Mop]

Prime time home game isn’t a spot Tomlin typically lays an egg. Those usually happen in early 1pm games or the west coast trips against bad opponents.

I can't remember the last time Tomlin had his team play down to the Cowboys level on prime time 2 Sundays ago.

Exactly. We just saw this rodeo.

Anyone predicting or expecting an easy win tonight hasn’t been following the Steelers.

Could we win big? Sure. Am I expecting it? Nope.

[swissvale72]

Ye of little faith. Steelers win by two scores, like 23-13.

[K_C_]

I also think this is gonna be a nail biter.

Whenever we should roll some downtrodden team, we don't.

I'm hoping for 31-10.

I expect 24-21

[Jizz Mop]

Ye of little faith. Steelers win by two scores, like 23-13.

I predicted 26-16 in prediction game thread.

10 point win against this shitty team isn’t exactly a blowout.

[lifelongsteel]

Tomlin special is the early window home game as a 7 pt favorite, or the late window west coast game as a 3 pt favorite. He excels in home prime time and as an underdog. that's his record.

Oddly he has gone against trend this year with the cowboys loss and wins against the broncos, raiders, chargers.

I do think tonight is a sneaky big game. Going into the bye at 6-2 with a one game lead and a 3 game winning streak is very different than 5-3.

Re: the last 9 games . . . I don't see 3-6. 3-3 in division would be disappointing, but it's probably the surest bet. I don't see them losing all 3 against the Commanders, Eagles, Chiefs.

Same old Steelers go 4-5.

If they are the new and improved Steelers they go 6-3.

[Deebo]

Prime time home game isn’t a spot Tomlin typically lays an egg. Those usually happen in early 1pm games or the west coast trips against bad opponents. Honestly, I don’t see any of those normal let down games left on the schedule. For sure they will get beat and play like shit a handful of times between now and the end of the season. But they will probably be underdogs in those games.

I swore I read a stat that the Steelers at home on Monday nights are 29-0. Maybe I dreamt it haha

Edit: wasn't 29-0, it was 19-0. here is the article https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news ... -football/

[swissvale72]

Ye of little faith. Steelers win by two scores, like 23-13.

I predicted 26-16 in prediction game thread.

10 point win against this shitty team isn’t exactly a blowout.

Who said anything about a blowout??

[Pabst]

Prime time home game isn’t a spot Tomlin typically lays an egg. Those usually happen in early 1pm games or the west coast trips against bad opponents. Honestly, I don’t see any of those normal let down games left on the schedule. For sure they will get beat and play like shit a handful of times between now and the end of the season. But they will probably be underdogs in those games.

I swore I read a stat that the Steelers at home on Monday nights are 29-0. Maybe I dreamt it haha

They've won 21 straight Monday Night home games. Tomlin is 20-3 overall in MNF games.

The last time the Steelers lost at home on Monday Night was October 14, 1991 to....The New York Giants.

[Works At A Bank]

Crazy talk. Tomlin & Co. will come into the game well prepared. Russ will have the offense firing on all cylinders. TJ will have 2 sacks and a forced fumble. Special teams blocks another kick and also returns a punt for a TD. Final score Steelers 33 Giants 13

/sarca

[jmacinwbp]

The over/under is 36.5, the lowest line this week in the NFL.

Vegas knows. The only way this thing is a blowout is if our D 1) shuts out the Giants and/or 2) the defense forces multiple turnovers including a defensive TD.

Otherwise, this is going to be a 16-13 shitfest and we'll be right back to talking about if Russ is the answer, or how much better, if any, Russ is compared to Fields. You know, exciting, meaningless sports talk for a team that is *fine* but not really of consequence for where this NFL season ultimately goes.

Once Russ "started cooking", was there anything specific from the O, D, STs, or even Tomlin in last week's game that supports this will be the scenario? Because after watching the replay, can't say that I saw something to worry about.

Even with the performance against the J-E-T-S last week, personally, I'm nervous about this game, not as much from Tomlin dumbShittiness of toning down what Russell is allowed to do with the O, but more so, with the long standing stars from this group getting waaaaay over confident when they've been able to string together a few good games.

Watt, Hayward, Minkah, Highsmith, Naj, and the WR 1s (locker room cancerMan/Dionte and Pickens) seem to mostly lay eggs soon after the team begins to get even minimal positive pub about their possible standing WRT the rest of the AFC. It's been inexplicable how large chunks of that group plays piss poor when they could be in a position to really begin to control their post season chances over the last three seasons.

Almost like there hasn't been any star veterans showing by example, that every game needs to be considered as a realistic loss, each of them requiring maximum effort and preparation to ensure the desired outcome, e.g. no players should be thinking any week is a gimme based on what's been shown on the field in the last couple of games. You'd think this would be an easy sell to a group that has won nuttin in the POs for virtually their entire careers, but for some reason Tomlin, and the rest of the coaching staff, haven't been able to get them to buy into the concept.

To counter this mostly negative take some, I'll offer this. Maybe the main reason for consistently playing down to opponents, when you're a supposedly ascending team, has been the very poor, and/or inexperienced QB play and peewee league OC concepts. I think there have been some positive signs, and reason for tempered optimism that the team may have found solutions to these offensive killing issues (Russ & Artie).

One thing that stood out in game vs the J-E-T-S , and was reinforced on the replay; Tomlin/Artie trusted Russ enough to open up the offense way more than anything we've seen in the last 3years, with the exceptions being when they had to play hero/catch up ball in the late 3rd, and all of the 4th quarters. Shit, it looked like there were multiple presnap mods to the original play call, and a couple of full audibles; it was unexpectedly nice too see Russ allowed to take the reigns like that in his first start with the team.

Truely dominate teams, that rarely experience false overconfidence, which dooms their performance against a supposed low performing "bottom feeder", usually have a strong QB presence who sets the tone of the O, and team in general during the week, to ensure they are adequately putting in the work leading up to the game; instead of letting positive hot takes on the performance from the last week infect the team's practice sessions and opponent prep. Its kinda like a dialed in wife's wicked sixth sense when their spouse is thinking about doing something really stupid.

I think there's a chance that with his experience, and top level RZ capable play, Russ might be that "dialed in wife" this team has needed to keep things under control, and the O focused during the JJ Walker "DynoMite" good times. And maybe, just maybe, a few of the new vet additions on D, who have been on teams that know how to deal with prosperity, like Elliot & Queen, will help blunt the overconfidence issues on D our core group has consistently displayed, and have them ready to kick ass, and take no prisoners.

If the O cums out and starts the game strong, I'm not sure what the vets on D are going to do. Hopefully they won't be too occupied Jizzing all over the place, like our buddy Mop, and a few others of us will assuredly be occupied with, and they shut down that KP8 poser D.Jones, along with the rest of that piss poor Dabo managed Gmen O. Guess we'll find out tonight. I for one am fired up too see how this team finishes up the pre bye portion of their schedule

[LakecrestSteeler]

Ye of little faith. Steelers win by two scores, like 23-13.

I think the Russ will have feet from the first snap onward...last week it took 2 quarters to get rid of the cement boots. Based on last game, I think we might get another 30 points.

[LakecrestSteeler]

The over/under is 36.5, the lowest line this week in the NFL.

Vegas knows. The only way this thing is a blowout is if our D 1) shuts out the Giants and/or 2) the defense forces multiple turnovers including a defensive TD.

Otherwise, this is going to be a 16-13 shitfest and we'll be right back to talking about if Russ is the answer, or how much better, if any, Russ is compared to Fields. You know, exciting, meaningless sports talk for a team that is *fine* but not really of consequence for where this NFL season ultimately goes.

Once Russ "started cooking", was there anything specific from the O, D, STs, or even Tomlin in last week's game that supports this will be the scenario? Because after watching the replay, can't say that I saw something to worry about.

Even with the performance against the J-E-T-S last week, personally, I'm nervous about this game, not as much from Tomlin dumbShittiness of toning down what Russell is allowed to do with the O, but more so, with the long standing stars from this group getting waaaaay over confident when they've been able to string together a few good games.

Watt, Hayward, Minkah, Highsmith, Naj, and the WR 1s (locker room cancerMan/Dionte and Pickens) seem to mostly lay eggs soon after the team begins to get even minimal positive pub about their possible standing WRT the rest of the AFC. It's been inexplicable how large chunks of that group plays piss poor when they could be in a position to really begin to control their post season chances over the last three seasons.

Almost like there hasn't been any star veterans showing by example, that every game needs to be considered as a realistic loss, each of them requiring maximum effort and preparation to ensure the desired outcome, e.g. no players should be thinking any week is a gimme based on what's been shown on the field in the last couple of games. You'd think this would be an easy sell to a group that has won nuttin in the POs for virtually their entire careers, but for some reason Tomlin, and the rest of the coaching staff, haven't been able to get them to buy into the concept.

To counter this mostly negative take some, I'll offer this. Maybe the main reason for consistently playing down to opponents, when you're a supposedly ascending team, has been the very poor, and/or inexperienced QB play and peewee league OC concepts. I think there have been some positive signs, and reason for tempered optimism that the team may have found solutions to these offensive killing issues (Russ & Artie).

One thing that stood out in game vs the J-E-T-S , and was reinforced on the replay; Tomlin/Artie trusted Russ enough to open up the offense way more than anything we've seen in the last 3years, with the exceptions being when they had to play hero/catch up ball in the late 3rd, and all of the 4th quarters. Shit, it looked like there were multiple presnap mods to the original play call, and a couple of full audibles; it was unexpectedly nice too see Russ allowed to take the reigns like that in his first start with the team.

Truely dominate teams, that rarely experience false overconfidence, which dooms their performance against a supposed low performing "bottom feeder", usually have a strong QB presence who sets the tone of the O, and team in general during the week, to ensure they are adequately putting in the work leading up to the game; instead of letting positive hot takes on the performance from the last week infect the team's practice sessions and opponent prep. Its kinda like a dialed in wife's wicked sixth sense when their spouse is thinking about doing something really stupid.

I think there's a chance that with his experience, and top level RZ capable play, Russ might be that "dialed in wife" this team has needed to keep things under control, and the O focused during the JJ Walker "DynoMite" good times. And maybe, just maybe, a few of the new vet additions on D, who have been on teams that know how to deal with prosperity, like Elliot & Queen, will help blunt the overconfidence issues on D our core group has consistently displayed, and have them ready to kick ass, and take no prisoners.

If the O cums out and starts the game strong, I'm not sure what the vets on D are going to do. Hopefully they won't be too occupied Jizzing all over the place, like our buddy Mop, and a few others of us will assuredly be occupied with, and they shut down that KP8 poser D.Jones, along with the rest of that piss poor Dabo managed Gmen O. Guess we'll find out tonight. I for one am fired up too see how this team finishes up the pre bye portion of their schedule

My general feeling. Also...how will the team do if the ball bounces the other way this game? I think we get 30 plus points, but if lady luck is against us, it will be a squeaker, but we still win. Not feeling the trap game vibe because of your points above.

[stairway 2 seven]

I think we win tonight but there is the dreaded loss before the bye week cliffhanger that i pray doesnt happen.

[Texas Black & Gold]

I think we win tonight but there is the dreaded loss before the bye week cliffhanger that i pray doesnt happen.

I think the dreaded loss before the bye week happened already, Colts or Cowboys, you pick which one was most dreaded. LOL

Tonight the Black & Gold roll again in a big way.

[bradshaw2ben]

Lets hope not

The gauntlet starts in week 10

Skins
Ravens
Browns
Bengals
Browns
Eagles
Ravens
Chiefs
Bengals

IF they split their division games, which is certainly possible, there are 3 losses

I feel like the game against the skins, is the Trap game. There's a loss
Eagles... they always lose to philly L
Chiefs, that's an L

So, that's easily 6 losses in the last 9 games

Could they sweep any of the division teams?? Yeah, but that's no certainty

Could they beat the Skins?? That's the most winnable of the games, outside of the division games.

Anyway- we'll find out what this team is about, soon enough.

I think the Commandos are better than the Steelers, so beating them in Washington would be a bit of an upset. Also, splitting the division games is doable but it would surprise me at this point. As I've been saying, I think that stretch is somewhere between 2 and 4 wins max.

[anpsteel]

O/U is still at 36.5 and the Steelers -6

and from what I've read, 90% of the early money was on the Steelers


Vegas is looking for the Giants to cover

S-20
G-16

keeps it Under and the Giants cover

S-23
G13

Under and Steelers Cover

I don't bet, so I don't follow these things generally

I'm going to now-

The officiating this season, has seemed to be worse than usual. With a lot of game impacting calls / non-calls.

[jmacinwbp]

Lets hope not

The gauntlet starts in week 10

Skins
Ravens
Browns
Bengals
Browns
Eagles
Ravens
Chiefs you
Bengals

IF they split their division games, which is certainly possible, there are 3 losses

I feel like the game against the skins, is the Trap game. There's a loss
Eagles... they always lose to philly L
Chiefs, that's an L

So, that's easily 6 losses in the last 9 games

Could they sweep any of the division teams?? Yeah, but that's no certainty

Could they beat the Skins?? That's the most winnable of the games, outside of the division games.

Anyway- we'll find out what this team is about, soon enough.

I think the Commandos are better than the Steelers, so beating them in Washington would be a bit of an upset. Also, splitting the division games is doable but it would surprise me at this point. As I've been saying, I think that stretch is somewhere between 2 and 4 wins max.

Not saying you're wrong with the analysis, but what is it about the Ravens and Bengals D that really scares you into thinking this version of the Steelers can't at least split with them? The Raven's O didn't look all that spectacular against a suspect/below average stains D on Sunday, and the Bengals D is simply atrocious, maybe one of the worst Pittsburgh will face in the entire season. From his play on Sunday, were you sold on Jaimeson not throwing as many picks as TDs vs the Norf?

I think Stephanski giving up the play calling to Dorsey, might make the stains the most difficult team to not get swept by, but that's only if Chubb is fully healed from the knee, and back to his All Pro form. One of the stains main problems was their coach thinking he was way too smart, and fucking up a rolling game plan that had Chubb crushing things on the ground, by trying to be more "pass friendly" with suspect play @Qb. Not too mention doing this plays right into Pittsburgh's strength of a strong pass rush from their OLBs.

[Ice]

Prime time home game isn’t a spot Tomlin typically lays an egg. Those usually happen in early 1pm games or the west coast trips against bad opponents. Honestly, I don’t see any of those normal let down games left on the schedule. For sure they will get beat and play like shit a handful of times between now and the end of the season. But they will probably be underdogs in those games.

I swore I read a stat that the Steelers at home on Monday nights are 29-0. Maybe I dreamt it haha

They've won 21 straight Monday Night home games. Tomlin is 20-3 overall in MNF games.

The last time the Steelers lost at home on Monday Night was October 14, 1991 to....The New York Giants.

During the Neil O'Donnell vs Bubby Brister QB controversy, Chuck Noll's final year. I watched that game. I was 8.

All things come back to the Bubster, by the way.

[SteelPro]

Prime time home game isn’t a spot Tomlin typically lays an egg. Those usually happen in early 1pm games or the west coast trips against bad opponents.

I can't remember the last time Tomlin had his team play down to the Cowboys level on prime time 2 Sundays ago.

Your definition of a Tomlin special isn’t the same as mine. Losing a close game in the final seconds against a team you were barely favored against isn’t what I consider shitting the bed.

[Stlcrtn1974]

Prime time home game isn’t a spot Tomlin typically lays an egg. Those usually happen in early 1pm games or the west coast trips against bad opponents.

I can't remember the last time Tomlin had his team play down to the Cowboys level on prime time 2 Sundays ago.

Your definition of a Tomlin special isn’t the same as mine. Losing a close game in the final seconds against a team you were barely favored against isn’t what I consider shitting the bed.

What do you consider this?

[TimmayLake]

Looking like a good prediction so far.

[SteelPro]

I can't remember the last time Tomlin had his team play down to the Cowboys level on prime time 2 Sundays ago.

Your definition of a Tomlin special isn’t the same as mine. Losing a close game in the final seconds against a team you were barely favored against isn’t what I consider shitting the bed.

What do you consider this?

I consider it the 22nd consecutive Monday Night home victory

[Stlcrtn1974]

Your definition of a Tomlin special isn’t the same as mine. Losing a close game in the final seconds against a team you were barely favored against isn’t what I consider shitting the bed.

What do you consider this?

I consider it the 22nd consecutive Monday Night home victory

That it was.

[Texas Steel]

Ye of little faith. Steelers win by two scores, like 23-13.

I predicted 26-16 in prediction game thread.

10 point win against this shitty team isn’t exactly a blowout.

26-18... so close i'll give it to you.