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Post by Deebo » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:15 pm

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/18513 ... _&ref_url=

I think DJ is a pretty good idea for Baltimore. They have a good WR in Flowers, but now they get a possession monster with DJ. That should help Lamar.

But if they were adding anyone it should be to their defense. It's bad



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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:17 pm

Steelers need to MAKE A MOVE
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Post by Deebo » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:18 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:17 pm
Steelers need to MAKE A MOVE
It's insane this hasn't happened yet.
Got to get this done soon so you can integrate him during the bye week

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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:19 pm

Deebo wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:18 pm
Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:17 pm
Steelers need to MAKE A MOVE
It's insane this hasn't happened yet.
Got to get this done soon so you can integrate him during the bye week
I think it is in the works. Question is I don’t know who they are aggressively going after.
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Post by Deebo » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:20 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:19 pm
Deebo wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:18 pm
Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:17 pm
Steelers need to MAKE A MOVE
It's insane this hasn't happened yet.
Got to get this done soon so you can integrate him during the bye week
I think it is in the works. Question is I don’t know who they are aggressively going after.
Slayton or Mike Williams would be my preference/guess

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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:20 pm

It's not happening with Steelers. They're good with their WR room, with both CA III & Jefferson stepping up recently.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:23 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:20 pm
It's not happening with Steelers. They're good with their WR room, with both CA III & Jefferson stepping up recently.
With Roman Wilson going on the shelf, this might force their hand.

I could seriously see Slayton in the black and gold in a few days.

We have zero depth.
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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:29 pm

Stefan Diggs is out for year with an ACL.

There are a few other WR hungry teams (HOU, SF, etc.)

If you want Slayton you need to go get him. DONT lose out on another.
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Post by Deebo » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:31 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:20 pm
It's not happening with Steelers. They're good with their WR room, with both CA III & Jefferson stepping up recently.
Van Jefferson fucking sucks. He's a borderline NFL player.

Sometimes the best move you can make is the little one where you improve on the margins. This is an easy upgrade with little investment.

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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:34 pm

Deebo wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:31 pm
swissvale72 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:20 pm
It's not happening with Steelers. They're good with their WR room, with both CA III & Jefferson stepping up recently.
Van Jefferson fucking sucks. He's a borderline NFL player.

Sometimes the best move you can make is the little one where you improve on the margins. This is an easy upgrade with little investment.
And even if we think Van is not great, he’s a serviceable veteran who can make plays. Roman Wilson isn’t doing a damn thing for us this season; that ship has sailed (or train).

Scotty Miller adds very little.

You go into the meat of the schedule with Pickens - Slayton - Jefferson - Austin - (current) Najee - Warren - Muth - Outlier?

This is a solid offensive group. GET IT DONE.
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Post by Pabst » Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:03 pm

Hang on....

The Panthers gave up Dionte Jackson and moved back 62 spots in the draft to get DJ in the offseason.
Then, they send DJ to Baltimore for a swap of 5th and 6th round picks, which will probably end up being around 20 spots.


So they essentially gave up a starting CB & moved back a round in the draft in order to get 30 catches from a WR.

That is some next level GM work.

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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:12 pm

Just when you think there is a new low in terms of NFL franchises you remember shit like this from the Panthers and say…WOW that is a mess over there.

David Tepper, everyone.
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Post by StillerDownSouth » Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:28 pm

WR, OL, DL could all use help/depth, I would think they are feeling like they have a shot to maybe win a playoff game or two this year, wouldn't shock me to see them try to upgrade a couple of these groups.

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Post by Steelperch » Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:33 pm

The Ravens gave up what will likely be 10 draft slots in the 6th round to get half a season of clank. My least favorite Steelers receiver ever. I can only hope he costs them a big game.

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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:08 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:33 pm
The Ravens gave up what will likely be 10 draft slots in the 6th round to get half a season of clank. My least favorite Steelers receiver ever. I can only hope he costs them a big game.
Less so than limas sweed? My least fave steeler receiver ever is mark fuckin stock....prob cost Steelers an improbable AFCCG appearance at Cleveland in 89

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:24 pm

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It's not happening with Steelers. They're good with their WR room, with both CA III & Jefferson stepping up recently.
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Post by Steelperch » Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:37 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:08 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:33 pm
The Ravens gave up what will likely be 10 draft slots in the 6th round to get half a season of clank. My least favorite Steelers receiver ever. I can only hope he costs them a big game.
Less so than limas sweed? My least fave steeler receiver ever is mark fuckin stock....prob cost Steelers an improbable AFCCG appearance at Cleveland in 89
Limas Sweed wasn’t a raging vagina. Remember him decapitating that defender in a playoff game? He had a few physical blocks during his time here. He just couldn’t catch. Dionte is very talented, but he is soft. Very soft. And a bad attitude guy. And ran backwards or out of bounds. And fumbled, and had drops, and quit on fumbles. He was the softest wr in franchise history. I hate him. The bad part is, he could’ve been a great player with his quickness and separation. That’s why I despise him.

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Post by lifelongsteel » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:01 pm

I think DJ is going to go off in Baltimore unfortunately.

If you hit him on the run or in space, he's great. all the stuff the Steelers never did post Ben.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:20 pm

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Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:01 pm
I think DJ is going to go off in Baltimore unfortunately.

If you hit him on the run or in space, he's great. all the stuff the Steelers never did post Ben.
DJ's a helluva talent, but let me ask you something.....

He wasn't happy as the #1 option in Pittsburgh. Wasn't going 100%.

Baltimore already has a Diontae Johnson who goes 100% in Zay Flowers. They still love Rashod Bateman.

Mark Andrews, even though his numbers are down because the Ravens are so run heavy, is Lamar's favorite receiver (unless that position has been taken by Flowers, who is absolutely electric......I wanted him instead of Broderick Jones...badly) and then you still have to add in Likely and Agholor.

I haven't looked but I'd have to imagine the Ravens run the ball more than any team in the league.

You think Diontae Johnson is going to be good with being, at best, option #4 or #5?

I absolutely do not.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:23 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:37 pm
swissvale72 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:08 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:33 pm
The Ravens gave up what will likely be 10 draft slots in the 6th round to get half a season of clank. My least favorite Steelers receiver ever. I can only hope he costs them a big game.
Less so than limas sweed? My least fave steeler receiver ever is mark fuckin stock....prob cost Steelers an improbable AFCCG appearance at Cleveland in 89
Limas Sweed wasn’t a raging vagina. Remember him decapitating that defender in a playoff game? He had a few physical blocks during his time here. He just couldn’t catch. Dionte is very talented, but he is soft. Very soft. And a bad attitude guy. And ran backwards or out of bounds. And fumbled, and had drops, and quit on fumbles. He was the softest wr in franchise history. I hate him. The bad part is, he could’ve been a great player with his quickness and separation. That’s why I despise him.
DJ and his backwards runs were infuriating, but I cut him a little slack for his bad attitude last season because he had been subjected to the Pickett and Canada show for two years and snapped. That's understandable.

Donte Moncrief is probably the worst receiver I can remember playing for the Steelers, so he's above DJ in the list of hated Steelers receivers. Ladarius Green totally defrauded the Steelers, but he was technically a TE so I don't know if he counts, but he's high on my list of all time most hated Steelers.

My all time most hated Steeler is Rashard Mendenhall, and it's not even close. Spinderella was a disappointment of a first round pick, he lost a critical fumble in the Super Bowl that cost the Steelers the game (not entirely his fault, but still), and he was an annoying pseudo-intellectual idiot who gave a hot take in favor of Osama Bin Laden and later called Ben a racist and then had to awkwardly backtrack.
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:26 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:23 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:37 pm
swissvale72 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:08 pm


Less so than limas sweed? My least fave steeler receiver ever is mark fuckin stock....prob cost Steelers an improbable AFCCG appearance at Cleveland in 89
Limas Sweed wasn’t a raging vagina. Remember him decapitating that defender in a playoff game? He had a few physical blocks during his time here. He just couldn’t catch. Dionte is very talented, but he is soft. Very soft. And a bad attitude guy. And ran backwards or out of bounds. And fumbled, and had drops, and quit on fumbles. He was the softest wr in franchise history. I hate him. The bad part is, he could’ve been a great player with his quickness and separation. That’s why I despise him.
DJ and his backwards runs were infuriating, but I cut him a little slack for his bad attitude last season because he had been subjected to the Pickett and Canada show for two years and snapped. That's understandable.

Donte Moncrief is probably the worst receiver I can remember playing for the Steelers, so he's above DJ in the list of hated Steelers receivers. Lardarius Green totally defrauded the Steelers, but he was technically a TE so I don't know if he counts.
George Pickens did okay with Pickett.

...and Donte Moncrief sucked but he shouldn't have been on the field. The guy was playing with a broken finger inside of some goddamn makeshift cast and Tomlin insisted on trotting him out there anyway over some young guy on the bench. I forget who it was now but everybody wanted Moncrief to wait to be on the field until finger was healed. Ben threw some kind of heater to Moncrief in practice that mangled his finger and he was still out there.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:28 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:26 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:23 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:37 pm


Limas Sweed wasn’t a raging vagina. Remember him decapitating that defender in a playoff game? He had a few physical blocks during his time here. He just couldn’t catch. Dionte is very talented, but he is soft. Very soft. And a bad attitude guy. And ran backwards or out of bounds. And fumbled, and had drops, and quit on fumbles. He was the softest wr in franchise history. I hate him. The bad part is, he could’ve been a great player with his quickness and separation. That’s why I despise him.
DJ and his backwards runs were infuriating, but I cut him a little slack for his bad attitude last season because he had been subjected to the Pickett and Canada show for two years and snapped. That's understandable.

Donte Moncrief is probably the worst receiver I can remember playing for the Steelers, so he's above DJ in the list of hated Steelers receivers. Lardarius Green totally defrauded the Steelers, but he was technically a TE so I don't know if he counts.
George Pickens did okay with Pickett.

...and Donte Moncrief sucked but he shouldn't have been on the field. The guy was playing with a broken finger inside of some goddamn makeshift cast and Tomlin insisted on trotting him out there anyway over some young guy on the bench. I forget who it was now but everybody wanted Moncrief to wait to be on the field until finger was healed. Ben threw some kind of heater to Moncrief in practice that mangled his finger and he was still out there.
Pickens was also losing his mind last year.

And are you sure Moncrief broke his fingers? I thought that was Sammie Coates, who looked pretty good for a few games, then mangled his hand and never recovered from it.

EDIT:
You're right, Moncrief did have a hand injury. I had forgotten that. Sammie Coates also had a bad hand injury- that sticks in my mind because I remember him having a great game against the Jets in 2016, then totally disappearing.

https://www.nfl.com/news/donte-moncrief ... 0001053827

Moncrief got benched for DJ.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/279 ... e-moncrief
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:33 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:28 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:26 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:23 pm


DJ and his backwards runs were infuriating, but I cut him a little slack for his bad attitude last season because he had been subjected to the Pickett and Canada show for two years and snapped. That's understandable.

Donte Moncrief is probably the worst receiver I can remember playing for the Steelers, so he's above DJ in the list of hated Steelers receivers. Lardarius Green totally defrauded the Steelers, but he was technically a TE so I don't know if he counts.
George Pickens did okay with Pickett.

...and Donte Moncrief sucked but he shouldn't have been on the field. The guy was playing with a broken finger inside of some goddamn makeshift cast and Tomlin insisted on trotting him out there anyway over some young guy on the bench. I forget who it was now but everybody wanted Moncrief to wait to be on the field until finger was healed. Ben threw some kind of heater to Moncrief in practice that mangled his finger and he was still out there.
Pickens was also losing his mind last year.

And are you sure Moncrief broke his fingers? I thought that was Sammie Coates, who looked pretty good for a few games, then mangled his hand and never recovered from it.
PIckens had an excellent rookie year and while Kenny was no great shakes, he got better and better later in the year against weaker competition after Mitch was benched permanently. Had like 5 TD catches. DJ had none....on like 75 receptions.

Yes, last year Pickett was bad and that got Canada fired. Pickett had an impressive game, then sucked for less than a half vs Arizona and his season was over. Trubisky then performed as though he was throwing games and Mason Almighty saved the season.

Yes, Pickens was frustrated and I don't blame him but Diontae Johnson was the elder statesman in that receiver room. He's supposed to lead by example. His effort and attitude is why he's no longer a Pittsburgh Steeler.
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Post by swissvale72 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:51 pm

I obv thought a lot more of DJ than did many of you. I think his deficits, like running backwards, have been overstated. Last season, couldn't wait to get him back from injury, and I HATE that the ravens got him so cheap.

ONLY reason that I'm still not pissed about losing him is donte Jackson, who's been a much better addition than I anticipated.

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Post by Rod & Wire Mill » Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:03 am

DJ to the Ravens! I tremble with fear within my den

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Post by stillthere » Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:53 am

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:20 pm
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Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:01 pm
I think DJ is going to go off in Baltimore unfortunately.

If you hit him on the run or in space, he's great. all the stuff the Steelers never did post Ben.
DJ's a helluva talent, but let me ask you something.....

He wasn't happy as the #1 option in Pittsburgh. Wasn't going 100%.

Baltimore already has a Diontae Johnson who goes 100% in Zay Flowers. They still love Rashod Bateman.

Mark Andrews, even though his numbers are down because the Ravens are so run heavy, is Lamar's favorite receiver (unless that position has been taken by Flowers, who is absolutely electric......I wanted him instead of Broderick Jones...badly) and then you still have to add in Likely and Agholor.

I haven't looked but I'd have to imagine the Ravens run the ball more than any team in the league.

You think Diontae Johnson is going to be good with being, at best, option #4 or #5?

I absolutely do not.
I am buying all you are selling here except there will be 2 games a year he wants more than most.

Michael Pettaway Tomlin (Petty-way) is a common theme in a lot of his motivational stories over the years. Why does Ryan Maulet show up against MPT led PIT? The answer is how MPT got Maulet to make plays in PIT by poking easily irritated issues. (Works well with real talent. Less so with underwear olympics champs).

Don't get me wrong Coach Cowher pulled the ultra petty move when the Brahns came back and The Chin said all the Brahns can be announced. Then told the Stillers that they were not even gonna announce the team at all and got them all juiced up to go kill them on primetime in Cleveland. Legit that was an amazing petty move but Cowher pulled it out once and again. Tomlin seems to rely on it more than most. I may be wrong but I seem to hear the theme more than once.

I guess once the AFC North hard knocks starts this month we will maybe know more.

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Post by stillthere » Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:05 am

W&M_Steeler wrote:
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but he's high on my list of all time most hated Steelers.

My all time most hated Steeler is Rashard Mendenhall, and it's not even close. Spinderella was a disappointment of a first round pick, he lost a critical fumble in the Super Bowl that cost the Steelers the game (not entirely his fault, but still), and he was an annoying pseudo-intellectual idiot who gave a hot take in favor of Osama Bin Laden and later called Ben a racist and then had to awkwardly backtrack.
I can get with the Mendenhall hate but we would not have been in the Superb-Owl without him. (He did contribute to that team)
[He is still an ass-hat or douche-canoe whatever the current vernacular is today]

Tim McKyer <-- This mother fucker though

I will never stop hating. That AFCCG vs SD when he just let Anthony Miller roll down the field for like a fucking 70-yarder in the 4th QTR??????? From whomever the JAG on SD at QB was STan Humphries???? Fuck Me all to hell.
That was unacceptable. (We also as an organization could have won the Super Bowl vs. that San Francisco 49ers team)

Like Ace Ventura-style fucking ball cancer shit fuck that guy so much.

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Post by swissvale72 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:17 am

stillthere wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:05 am
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 11:23 pm
but he's high on my list of all time most hated Steelers.

My all time most hated Steeler is Rashard Mendenhall, and it's not even close. Spinderella was a disappointment of a first round pick, he lost a critical fumble in the Super Bowl that cost the Steelers the game (not entirely his fault, but still), and he was an annoying pseudo-intellectual idiot who gave a hot take in favor of Osama Bin Laden and later called Ben a racist and then had to awkwardly backtrack.
I can get with the Mendenhall hate but we would not have been in the Superb-Owl without him. (He did contribute to that team)
[He is still an ass-hat or douche-canoe whatever the current vernacular is today]

Tim McKyer <-- This mother fucker though

I will never stop hating. That AFCCG vs SD when he just let Anthony Miller roll down the field for like a fucking 70-yarder in the 4th QTR??????? From whomever the JAG on SD at QB was STan Humphries???? Fuck Me all to hell.
That was unacceptable. (We also as an organization could have won the Super Bowl vs. that San Francisco 49ers team)

Like Ace Ventura-style fucking ball cancer shit fuck that guy so much.
Good choice!!

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Post by langer » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:35 am

I think every player on the Panthers wants out of that madhouse. How that team has fallen....

Anything would be better.
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Post by punum123 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 11:59 am

lifelongsteel wrote:
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I think DJ is going to go off in Baltimore unfortunately.

If you hit him on the run or in space, he's great. all the stuff the Steelers never did post Ben.
I agree. He'll drop a few...but he'll make some splash plays for sure. Just hope it's not against us.

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