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Post by steelmann58 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:01 am

Ray Fittipaldo on 937 said he is getting the sense Teryl Austin and Pat Meyer aren't going to be fired. Added he hasn’t heard anyone who’s under contract is going to be let go: “I haven’t heard anything like that. That anyone who’s under contract is gonna be let go.” #Steelers #NFL 



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Post by Obviously » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:28 am

Well they're just easing in to all those changes.
#NoMoTomlin

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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:32 am

steelmann58 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:01 am
Ray Fittipaldo on 937 said he is getting the sense Teryl Austin and Pat Meyer aren't going to be fired. Added he hasn’t heard anyone who’s under contract is going to be let go: “I haven’t heard anything like that. That anyone who’s under contract is gonna be let go.” #Steelers #NFL 
I heard that too this evening. Tomlin must be an extraordinary bull shit artist to be able to keep this going for almost a decade, hats off to him. 3 more years of this garbage and hopefully he leaves along with Rooney.

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Post by jeemie » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:35 am

Dulac reported Tomlin's contract extension through 2027 is worth $50 million.

Why he's not going anywhere, and why he could act like an arrogant bastard in his end of year presser.

He's in control and knows it.
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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:17 am

I hope he starts eating shit sandwiches

This organization is a joke with its cucked operations
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Post by steelmann58 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:24 am

jeemie wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:35 am
Dulac reported Tomlin's contract extension through 2027 is worth $50 million.

Why he's not going anywhere, and why he could act like an arrogant bastard in his end of year presser.

He's in control and knows it.
5o million to a guy who has won nothing in years proving Art is clueless

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:30 am

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:32 am
steelmann58 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:01 am
Ray Fittipaldo on 937 said he is getting the sense Teryl Austin and Pat Meyer aren't going to be fired. Added he hasn’t heard anyone who’s under contract is going to be let go: “I haven’t heard anything like that. That anyone who’s under contract is gonna be let go.” #Steelers #NFL 
I heard that too this evening. Tomlin must be an extraordinary bull shit artist to be able to keep this going for almost a decade, hats off to him. 3 more years of this garbage and hopefully he leaves along with Rooney.
Pray for the younger Daniel to step in and stop this madness
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Post by tbsteel » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:45 am

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LOSE
LOSE
LOSE

This whole organization needs to lose, and lose again, and then lose some more, and then after they're done losing they can try losing again, and then the week after that lose, and then turn right around and lose again, and then they can switch it up by losing, follow it up by losing again, and then take all the coupons they've saved up and turn them in so they can lose again, and lose right after that, and wouldn't you know it by god they lose again, and then consider losing the next one too right after they end up losing.

We have to pour all of our collective efforts, hopes, and dreams into an apocalyptic level of despair and ugliness for this franchise.

The entire organization needs to be humbled hard. Humbled in a way that makes them question everything they've ever thought they've known or believed in.

The idea of sincerely rooting for Mike Tomlin's team to win another game 16-13 is literally sickening to me.

Lose often.
Lose ugly.
Lose. Lose. Lose. Lose. Lose.

We need next year to be the worst season in Steelers history, or at least since 1969.

We're not crawling out of this. Abandon all hope ye who enter here. We are but a cur'sed lot that deserve no pity and certainly no forgiveness. Only a desolate, unending road that winds itself through the cold, pitch black darkness.

Shall we take a stroll?
*reserves the right to roots for losses*

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Post by RemoAZ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:48 am

If this organization cared about winning Super Bowls anymore they would at the very least force top notch coordinators on him with a mandate he let them coach. The team is run by a bunch of pussies living in their fears.
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Post by Stillchest » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:32 am

RemoAZ wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:48 am
If this organization cared about winning Super Bowls anymore they would at the very least force top notch coordinators on him with a mandate he let them coach. The team is run by a bunch of pussies living in their fears.
I agree but I also, think there is politics involved.

It's sickening and makes it difficult to root for this team.

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Post by Orangesteel » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:48 am

To hell with this dumb franchise.
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Post by CKSteeler » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:42 am

I will remind you guys that Art II promised Franco32 of Steerlfury that Tomlin and his boys are doing everything in their power to bring a Super Bowl back to Pittsburgh and not just spinning their wheels endlessly doing the same shit over and over again.

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Post by langer » Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:20 am

Why would they get rid of anyone when they overachieved, made it to the playoffs and had a winning season!

Lol
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Post by CKSteeler » Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:43 am

The people who argue that the team overachieved given their talent are so damn dumb that they don't even realize that they are insulting Tomlin. Not just because he is the defacto decision maker on the roster, which they refuse to believe anyway, but because the entire braintrust thought the moves they were making in the off-season up into the regular season were making them a contender.

This was an all-chips in year for Tomlin. This is what he thought would be his best chance in years to contend. That's what all of his decisions were based on.

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Post by langer » Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:42 am

People seem to forget the slow decline since Arians, even Haley...

Six years wasted on Fichtner and Canada.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:33 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:43 am
The people who argue that the team overachieved given their talent are so damn dumb that they don't even realize that they are insulting Tomlin. Not just because he is the defacto decision maker on the roster, which they refuse to believe anyway, but because the entire braintrust thought the moves they were making in the off-season up into the regular season were making them a contender.

This was an all-chips in year for Tomlin. This is what he thought would be his best chance in years to contend. That's what all of his decisions were based on.
Exactly. This was the number 1 paid defense in the league. This was Tomlin's year to prove he could win like with it like the 2000 Ravens. This is the offense Tomlin wants. This is the defense Tomlin wants. The defense didn't even have any significant injuries- all the starters played in the Ravens game. And they got absolutely humiliated. Tomlin is never winning anything again, and wouldn't even if you gave him Mahomes on a vet minimum contract.

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:34 pm

langer wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:42 am
People seem to forget the slow decline since Arians, even Haley...

Six years wasted on Fichtner and Canada.
Fichtner and Canada, two unqualified nepotism hires who will never coach in the NFL again. Yet Tomlin gets no blame for selecting and keeping them.

It's still hard to believe that the top three Steelers coaches from 2018-2020 (Tomlin, Fichtner, Butler) were all from the 1998 Arkansas State coaching staff. That powerhouse team went 4-8 with Fichtner as OC, Butler as DC, and Tomlin as DB coach. You could feel greatness in the air!

Pat Meyer was the graduate assistant at Memphis in 1997, the year after Tomlin finished his tenure there as GA. They probably knew each other then, and definitely know the same Memphis people who hired both of them. Whenever there's a questionable coaching hire with Tomlin, nepotism is almost always the root cause.
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Post by Mick » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:42 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:34 pm
langer wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:42 am
People seem to forget the slow decline since Arians, even Haley...

Six years wasted on Fichtner and Canada.
Fichtner and Canada, two unqualified nepotism hires who will never coach in the NFL again. Yet Tomlin gets no blame for selecting and keeping them.
how was canada a nepotism hire? Or fichtner. Or are we just using words wrong for fun.

Possible arthur smith interviewing for HC jobs is delaying some coaching decisions.

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:50 pm

Mick wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:42 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:34 pm
langer wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:42 am
People seem to forget the slow decline since Arians, even Haley...

Six years wasted on Fichtner and Canada.
Fichtner and Canada, two unqualified nepotism hires who will never coach in the NFL again. Yet Tomlin gets no blame for selecting and keeping them.
how was canada a nepotism hire?
He was Tomlin's son's college coach at UMD and gave Dino a scholarship. After Canada was fired from UMD, Dino transferred to BC and Tomlin hired Canada.

https://www.audacy.com/937thefan/sports ... -has-a-job
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:52 pm

Mick wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:42 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:34 pm
langer wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:42 am
People seem to forget the slow decline since Arians, even Haley...

Six years wasted on Fichtner and Canada.
Fichtner and Canada, two unqualified nepotism hires who will never coach in the NFL again. Yet Tomlin gets no blame for selecting and keeping them.
how was canada a nepotism hire? Or fichtner. Or are we just using words wrong for fun.
Read my edit. Tomlin hires his old buddies. And fuck off with your "just using words wrong for fun"- that's very arrogant for a guy who obviously knows nothing about the situation

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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:02 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:52 pm
Mick wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:42 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:34 pm


Fichtner and Canada, two unqualified nepotism hires who will never coach in the NFL again. Yet Tomlin gets no blame for selecting and keeping them.
how was canada a nepotism hire? Or fichtner. Or are we just using words wrong for fun.
Read my edit. Tomlin hires his old buddies. And fuck off with your "just using words wrong for fun"- that's very arrogant for a guy who obviously knows nothing about the situation
I keep saying Dino will be following in his pops footsteps, May take us into the 2040's with no playoff wins in 25 years but Never having a losing season like his Dad.

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:10 pm

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:02 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:52 pm
Mick wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:42 pm
how was canada a nepotism hire? Or fichtner. Or are we just using words wrong for fun.
Read my edit. Tomlin hires his old buddies. And fuck off with your "just using words wrong for fun"- that's very arrogant for a guy who obviously knows nothing about the situation
I keep saying Dino will be following in his pops footsteps, May take us into the 2040's with no playoff wins in 25 years but Never having a losing season like his Dad.
Mick apparently is the only person who refuses to acknowledge Tomlin's nepotism. Tomlin brought Arkansas State pal Fichtner to the Steelers in 2007 and kept him around for 13 years. Fichtner also coached at Memphis after Tomlin left and knew the same people. Fichtner never worked for another NFL team in his career, to my knowledge was never interviewed for a promotion by any other NFL team during his tenure with the Steelers, and will likely never work in the NFL again. Apparently, to other NFL teams he's not an NFL quality coach.

Canada, the man Ed Orgeron publicly said he regretted hiring and who rarely lasted more than a year at any given college, gives Tomlin's son a scholarship and ends up hired by the Steelers after getting canned yet again. What a crazy coincidence! I'm sure the fact that Tomlin and Canada probably were familiar with each other from Canada's year at Pitt didn't hurt either.

Tomlin selects poor assistants who are basically never hired by other NFL teams after leaving the Steelers. When you look at some his prior connections, it's hard not to see the nepotism at play in some of the key hires.

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Post by smithessmokin » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:48 pm

Obviously wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:28 am
Well they're just easing in to all those changes.
Love the profile pic, that's great.

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Post by TTP » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:10 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:33 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:43 am
The people who argue that the team overachieved given their talent are so damn dumb that they don't even realize that they are insulting Tomlin. Not just because he is the defacto decision maker on the roster, which they refuse to believe anyway, but because the entire braintrust thought the moves they were making in the off-season up into the regular season were making them a contender.

This was an all-chips in year for Tomlin. This is what he thought would be his best chance in years to contend. That's what all of his decisions were based on.
Exactly. This was the number 1 paid defense in the league. This was Tomlin's year to prove he could win like with it like the 2000 Ravens. This is the offense Tomlin wants. This is the defense Tomlin wants. The defense didn't even have any significant injuries- all the starters played in the Ravens game. And they got absolutely humiliated. Tomlin is never winning anything again, and wouldn't even if you gave him Mahomes on a vet minimum contract.
This. All of this. Tomlin isn't saddled with a subpar team. He build the subpar team. This is the kind of team that he thinks can win a SB.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:17 pm

langer wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:42 am
People seem to forget the slow decline since Arians, even Haley...

Six years wasted on Fichtner and Canada.
Arians took all the risk-taking with him when he left the building. He was an incredible counter-weight to Tomlin’s risk aversion… but lost the power struggle and you see where the franchise is now.

Arians: 6-3 an postseason as a head coach and 5-3 as a Steelers OC (plus damn near won as CLE OC with Kelly Holcomb vs a superior Steelers team).

Steelers with Ben, after Arians: 3-6 in postseason
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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:30 pm

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:02 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:52 pm
Mick wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:42 pm
how was canada a nepotism hire? Or fichtner. Or are we just using words wrong for fun.
Read my edit. Tomlin hires his old buddies. And fuck off with your "just using words wrong for fun"- that's very arrogant for a guy who obviously knows nothing about the situation
I keep saying Dino will be following in his pops footsteps, May take us into the 2040's with no playoff wins in 25 years but Never having a losing season like his Dad.
And Let’s not lose sight of this new strength coach (wpa native) so known to the Steelers, and currently from BC. (Dino Tomlin). There is your latest nepo hire.

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2024/ ... ing-coach/

Article says it’s not based on connection. Guy does have a good resume. But you cannot disconnect the quick move here based on Dino Tomlin
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Post by langer » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:32 pm

TTP wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:10 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:33 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:43 am
The people who argue that the team overachieved given their talent are so damn dumb that they don't even realize that they are insulting Tomlin. Not just because he is the defacto decision maker on the roster, which they refuse to believe anyway, but because the entire braintrust thought the moves they were making in the off-season up into the regular season were making them a contender.

This was an all-chips in year for Tomlin. This is what he thought would be his best chance in years to contend. That's what all of his decisions were based on.
Exactly. This was the number 1 paid defense in the league. This was Tomlin's year to prove he could win like with it like the 2000 Ravens. This is the offense Tomlin wants. This is the defense Tomlin wants. The defense didn't even have any significant injuries- all the starters played in the Ravens game. And they got absolutely humiliated. Tomlin is never winning anything again, and wouldn't even if you gave him Mahomes on a vet minimum contract.
This. All of this. Tomlin isn't saddled with a subpar team. He build the subpar team. This is the kind of team that he thinks can win a SB.


I think this is up for debate, as strange as it sounds.

Does he really want a team that wins a SB. To me, I see someone who is ok with clocking out early. He hits the playoffs then the mentality is to get out as quickly as possible. He may not even realize he's doing it.

I maintain this team is in dire need of a team of sports psychologists to do a forensic study of how everything is run. He only answers to someone who may not be all there.

He's Col Kurtz in Apocalypse Now.
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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:33 pm

Tomlin has everyone fooled and under a spell

Convince me otherwise
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Post by StillerInCT » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:37 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:17 pm
langer wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:42 am
People seem to forget the slow decline since Arians, even Haley...

Six years wasted on Fichtner and Canada.
Arians took all the risk-taking with him when he left the building. He was an incredible counter-weight to Tomlin’s risk aversion… but lost the power struggle and you see where the franchise is now.

Arians: 6-3 an postseason as a head coach and 5-3 as a Steelers OC (plus damn near won as CLE OC with Kelly Holcomb vs a superior Steelers team).

Steelers with Ben, after Arians: 3-6 in postseason
Yeah you know what...you nailed it. Tomlin/Arians was truly a yin/yang relationship.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:06 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:17 pm
langer wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:42 am
People seem to forget the slow decline since Arians, even Haley...

Six years wasted on Fichtner and Canada.
Arians took all the risk-taking with him when he left the building. He was an incredible counter-weight to Tomlin’s risk aversion… but lost the power struggle and you see where the franchise is now.

Arians: 6-3 an postseason as a head coach and 5-3 as a Steelers OC (plus damn near won as CLE OC with Kelly Holcomb vs a superior Steelers team).

Steelers with Ben, after Arians: 3-6 in postseason
It's telling that the most obvious power struggle during Tomlin's tenure was with the one good OC he had.

Arians after Steelers: 2 COTY awards, won a Super Bowl with the Bucs, took the Cardinals to the NFCC game.

Tomlin since: 3 playoff wins, 1 AFCC game, no COTY.

Steelers should have kept Arians and let Tomlin walk after 2011. Probably would have won a Super Bowl during the 2010s had they done so.

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