Had JF stayed #1

[swissvale72]

Don't know that we've ever had this convo. I think Steelers end up still 10-7, losing to commanders and at bengals, winning in Cleveland and against bengals in the finale.

[Deebo]

JF is an objectively worse QB than Wilson.
So I'd argue NHALS would have very much been in jeopardy had Fields kept being the starter.

[Gonzo]

JF is an objectively worse QB than Wilson.
So I'd argue NHALS would have very much been in jeopardy had Fields kept being the starter.

i agree
hoping this magical thinking about Fields stops soon
he is what you have seen years

[W&M_Steeler]

JF is an objectively worse QB than Wilson.
So I'd argue NHALS would have very much been in jeopardy had Fields kept being the starter.

i agree
hoping this magical thinking about Fields stops soon
he is what you have seen years

I don't understand people arguing that Fields was improving. His two worst games- Dallas and Oakland- were the last two he started. Fields played one very good half- second half vs Indy. Other than that, he played like the back-up he is. Sign him for $10 million to start next year, fine, but don't pay him $30 million a year for multiple years.

[.Kodiak]

Another example of Tomlin Dissonance....you wanted more from the QB than Fields was giving you, Wilson appeared to give you that...and then you handcuff him to be a game manager like Fields was.

[Ovie]

Hmmmm... so JF regressed and played his two worst games at the end of his run. Sounds like KP. Sounds like Russ. I wonder what they could possibly have in common?

[955876]

Another example of Tomlin Dissonance....you wanted more from the QB than Fields was giving you, Wilson appeared to give you that...and then you handcuff him to be a game manager like Fields was.

Jibba is the QB “Cooler”…

What will be especially funny is when we outbid ourselves and sign him to a pretty big deal.

That’ll be funny as shit. And guarantee an end to NHALS…

[SteelerDayTrader]

Fields can’t read a full field well

That can be compensated for if you have great coaching and scheme diversity to maximize other talents against various defenses AND you have elite level other talents

Guess which one of those ^^^ we are lacking

Almost all Lombardi level reclamation projects are older guys who can excel with the playbook, have really developed a true veteran experience knowledge edge, AND have a big arm and good accuracy

[Ice]

Hmmmm... so JF regressed and played his two worst games at the end of his run. Sounds like KP. Sounds like Russ. I wonder what they could possibly have in common?

Exactly.

You could actually add Duck and Bibberty to this list from the season they were alternating, too.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Another example of Tomlin Dissonance....you wanted more from the QB than Fields was giving you, Wilson appeared to give you that...and then you handcuff him to be a game manager like Fields was.

Jibba is the QB “Cooler”…

What will be especially funny is when we outbid ourselves and sign him to a pretty big deal.

That’ll be funny as shit. And guarantee an end to NHALS…

Tomlin really is the NFL’s version of Bernie Lootz for QB development!

[LakecrestSteeler]

Don't know that we've ever had this convo. I think Steelers end up still 10-7, losing to commanders and at bengals, winning in Cleveland and against bengals in the finale.

I think we could have gotten 2 more wins.

Fields would have gotten some backyard ball TDs and gotten the corners in crucial game winning drives.

The futility of having Tomlin ball forced down his throat would have eventually forced him to get to the corners and force it to Pickens, which would have yielded probably 80% success for a completion or a rushing 1st down….which would have translated to better red zone production.

Would never have gone on a five game skid with Fields and he might have pulled out an A game performance with LJ too.

[Steelperch]

Fields can’t read a defense and doesn’t have the accuracy Wilson has. The only way to win with Fields is ball control, dominating defense, and low scoring games against mediocre opponents. There is no path to beating a good team with Fields, especially with Tomlin as coach.

Fields certainly loses the final 6 games. And don’t forget that opening 4-2 is easily 5-1 possibly 6-0 with Wilson as well. Fields is a nobody as a QB, just a very athletic runner.

[tbsteel]

So I guess this is the current version of Steelers copium in trying to ignore reality... if only Tomlin would have stayed with Fields, think of all the POSSIBILITIES! It would have been different! Give Fields 17 games and just watch him SOAR!

In four years of playing QB in the NFL, he has not won a single game where his opponent scores 21 or more points.

0-23.

So, if Justin Fields is our QB and our opponent score the NFL average points per game (league average is 23), we literally have 0.00% chance of winning the game.

So no, nothing would have been different, and it likely would have been worse. We aren't beating Burrow with Fields, we aren't beating Jackson with him, we don't win the Washington game, we still lose in Cleveland, we still get slaughtered by the Chiefs and Eagles.

Hopefully, fingers crossed, we re-sign him to an overpriced contract and next year he is a turnover machine who barely looks comfortable taking a snap under center and looks like a total disaster. You know, how he's basically looked his first four years in the league. And hopefully we lose and lose and lose and lose some more. Because despite what the Stockholm Syndrome folks will tell you, if we go 4-13 next year Tomlin will be gone and regardless he won't be coaching here 3-5 years from now. The sooner the change happens, the sooner we have a chance to actually rebuild.

[SteelerDayTrader]

That’s what I’m hoping for Farty

5 yrs 25 30 35 40 50

[Gonzo]

i am also hoping these rubes sign fields for too much money or better yet sign rodgers. both have a high likelihood of bad failure and egg on face

[CoolShades]

So I guess this is the current version of Steelers copium in trying to ignore reality... if only Tomlin would have stayed with Fields, think of all the POSSIBILITIES! It would have been different! Give Fields 17 games and just watch him SOAR!

In four years of playing QB in the NFL, he has not won a single game where his opponent scores 21 or more points.

0-23.

So, if Justin Fields is our QB and our opponent score the NFL average points per game (league average is 23), we literally have 0.00% chance of winning the game.

So no, nothing would have been different, and it likely would have been worse. We aren't beating Burrow with Fields, we aren't beating Jackson with him, we don't win the Washington game, we still lose in Cleveland, we still get slaughtered by the Chiefs and Eagles.

Hopefully, fingers crossed, we re-sign him to an overpriced contract and next year he is a turnover machine who barely looks comfortable taking a snap under center and looks like a total disaster. You know, how he's basically looked his first four years in the league. And hopefully we lose and lose and lose and lose some more. Because despite what the Stockholm Syndrome folks will tell you, if we go 4-13 next year Tomlin will be gone and regardless he won't be coaching here 3-5 years from now. The sooner the change happens, the sooner we have a chance to actually rebuild.

That is an incredible stat. 0-23!

My God, it’s hopeless. I feel like the Steelers have been doing their best to get the fans to accept Fields as the inevitable choice as next year’s QB since the season ended through their media stooges.

I’m with you. This must implode. Bring on the pain of a 3-4 win season. Go winless in the division. Have Cleveland wipe their ass with the Steelers. Humiliation is the only way.

If the Steelers are going to insist that Mike Tomlin has a job for life, I can’t support that. No, as long as he continues to haunt the sidelines, the only thing I can do is root for his and the team’s demise. I want Tomlin to ruin his legacy and lose his gold jacket. That arrogant prick could have walked into a network job a couple of years ago and he would have maintained the lie. The longer he sticks around, the bigger the stink, and the bigger the stink, the more people will dig into his record. The more people that dig, the more will realize what a fraud he has always been. Maybe it will be enough to cost him what he always thought he had guaranteed…. A bust in Canton. That’s something I can root for.

By the way, tb… your avatar is the best one on this site that represents what this franchise has turned into. Groundhog Day.

[steelmann58]

I am not crazy with the idea of Fields but seems to be the best of a bad situation

[Stlcrtn1974]

I am not crazy with the idea of Fields but seems to be the best of a bad situation

Yes kind of like like which is better drowning or being burned to death.

[jebrick]

Don't know that we've ever had this convo. I think Steelers end up still 10-7, losing to commanders and at bengals, winning in Cleveland and against bengals in the finale.

If what is reported is true ( grain of salt), the Steelers won the first Bengals match-up because Wilson went off script. I do not think Fields would ever go off script.

[Deebo]

Don't know that we've ever had this convo. I think Steelers end up still 10-7, losing to commanders and at bengals, winning in Cleveland and against bengals in the finale.

If what is reported is true ( grain of salt), the Steelers won the first Bengals match-up because Wilson went off script. I do not think Fields would ever go off script.

Justin Fields isn't even smart enough to know what going off script even fucking means. Dude is an idiot from an NFL IQ standpoint.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Tomlin wouldn't have won shit if Tom Brady was the QB from '07-'22. Run first to Mendenhall Glacier and Dookie.