Dropping Sunday Ticket
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swissvale72
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Dropping Sunday Ticket
Not that any of you asshats likely give a fuck, but after subscribing to NFL Sunday Ticket continuously since its inception in '94, I'm dropping it.
The main reason, honestly, is that the Steelers are on Boston network regularly enough that last year, i only needed Sunday ticket to watch the Steelers on three occasions, so $160 per game. Other reasons include this Cam Heyward bullshit and just not wanting to support the NFL.
Oh, they offered me a $30 discount, then upped that to $48. I countered with how bout giving me the introductory offer of $34.50 a month but that was a non-starter. Still wasn't going to pay like $150 a game.
So...few bar trips for me or depending on you asshats to provide a link for me on occasion.
The main reason, honestly, is that the Steelers are on Boston network regularly enough that last year, i only needed Sunday ticket to watch the Steelers on three occasions, so $160 per game. Other reasons include this Cam Heyward bullshit and just not wanting to support the NFL.
Oh, they offered me a $30 discount, then upped that to $48. I countered with how bout giving me the introductory offer of $34.50 a month but that was a non-starter. Still wasn't going to pay like $150 a game.
So...few bar trips for me or depending on you asshats to provide a link for me on occasion.
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My wife called them after our price was raised considerably. She told them; "All I have to do is cancel, have my husband sign up with his YouTube account and he'll get the introductory price you aren't going to give me."swissvale72 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:17 pmNot that any of you asshats likely give a fuck, but after subscribing to NFL Sunday Ticket continuously since its inception in '94, I'm dropping it.
The main reason, honestly, is that the Steelers are on Boston network regularly enough that last year, i only needed Sunday ticket to watch the Steelers on three occasions, so $160 per game. Other reasons include this Cam Heyward bullshit and just not wanting to support the NFL.
Oh, they offered me a $30 discount, then upped that to $48. I countered with how bout giving me the introductory offer of $34.50 a month but that was a non-starter. Still wasn't going to pay like $150 a game.
So...few bar trips for me or depending on you asshats to provide a link for me on occasion.
YouTube said basically they didn't care so my wife canceled and I signed up. They are serious dumbfucks over there.
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I wasn't a big fan of it on Youtube TV anyway. Picture quality for me was nowhere near as good and had buffering at times which is unacceptable given what you're paying.
Research VPN’s. There are free versions…but way higher quality types can be found for around $10 per month.
They’ll camouflage your IP address to match any local area so you can watch any game (from any league) being broadcast on a local channel.
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Might seem intimidating. …but it’s pretty straightforward. I’d actually suggest it just for personal Internet security.
They’ll camouflage your IP address to match any local area so you can watch any game (from any league) being broadcast on a local channel.
——
Might seem intimidating. …but it’s pretty straightforward. I’d actually suggest it just for personal Internet security.
A couple questionsOrlaco wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:35 pmResearch VPN’s. There are free versions…but way higher quality types can be found for around $10 per month.
They’ll camouflage your IP address to match any local area so you can watch any game (from any league) being broadcast on a local channel.
——
Might seem intimidating. …but it’s pretty straightforward. I’d actually suggest it just for personal Internet security.
How are you installing a vpn at the tv level?
Next- let’s say I’m running a vpn on my laptop- and set it to suggest I’m in Canada
How does that allow me to watch other games?
Genuinely curious- because I’d love to not pay $450 for the few games that aren’t broadcast
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I hear ya Swiss. Crazy. I dropped them in the offseason after charging me full price last year in week 8 or week 9. Zero discounts given and they wouldn’t budge. I told them ok, I’ll just cancel after the two months or whatever time it was and that I would not come back. Did. I won’t return out of spite.swissvale72 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:17 pmNot that any of you asshats likely give a fuck, but after subscribing to NFL Sunday Ticket continuously since its inception in '94, I'm dropping it.
The main reason, honestly, is that the Steelers are on Boston network regularly enough that last year, i only needed Sunday ticket to watch the Steelers on three occasions, so $160 per game. Other reasons include this Cam Heyward bullshit and just not wanting to support the NFL.
Oh, they offered me a $30 discount, then upped that to $48. I countered with how bout giving me the introductory offer of $34.50 a month but that was a non-starter. Still wasn't going to pay like $150 a game.
So...few bar trips for me or depending on you asshats to provide a link for me on occasion.
Good if not great question. TV can be a ‘bit’ more complicated…because they’re not as interactive. Still…it’s ALL about apps.
The following is from AI (gemini.google.com free version..although I do have a subscription) ,a bit longwinded…says it better than me. A quick breakdown is that you fool a service like Youtube or Paramount+ (many others too) in regard to your location… because they show local TV stations as part of their product (including sports).
Long-winded reply from AI follows…..
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Yes, a VPN can work for your TV, but how you set it up depends entirely on the type of TV you have. Using a VPN on your TV is a great way to protect your privacy and access streaming content from different regions that might otherwise be unavailable to you.
Here’s a breakdown of the most common ways to get a VPN running on your television:
1. The Easy Way: Direct App Installation
This is the simplest method, but it only works if you have a "smart" TV that runs on an operating system that supports VPN applications.
Android TV / Google TV: Many popular TV brands like Sony, Hisense, and TCL use this operating system. You can simply go to the Google Play Store on your TV, search for your chosen VPN provider's app (like NordVPN, ExpressVPN, or Surfshark), and install it just like you would on your phone.
Amazon Fire TV: This is another popular platform with a dedicated app store. You can easily find and install VPN apps directly onto your Fire TV or Fire TV Stick.
Apple TV (tvOS 17 and newer): With the latest software updates, you can now download and install VPN apps directly from the App Store on your Apple TV.
How to do it:
On your compatible TV or streaming device, open the app store.
Search for your VPN provider.
Download and install the app.
Log in with your credentials and connect to a server.
2. The All-in-One Solution: Set Up a VPN on Your Router
This method is a bit more technical, but it has the major advantage of extending VPN protection to every device connected to your home Wi-Fi network, including your TV, game consoles, and any other smart devices.
How it works: You install the VPN on your Wi-Fi router, and any device that connects to that router will have its internet traffic routed through the VPN. This is the best option for smart TVs that don't have a native app store for VPNs, such as those from Samsung (Tizen OS) and LG (webOS).
What you'll need: A VPN-compatible router. Not all routers support this feature, so you may need to check your router's manual or consider purchasing a pre-configured VPN router.
How to do it:
Log in to your router's admin panel.
Find the VPN settings.
Configure the settings according to your VPN provider's instructions.
Connect your TV to the router's Wi-Fi network.
3. Connection Sharing: Using Your Computer as a Middleman
If the first two options aren't suitable, you can share your computer's VPN connection with your TV. This essentially turns your computer into a VPN-protected Wi-Fi hotspot.
Wireless Hotspot: You can configure your Windows or macOS computer to broadcast a Wi-Fi hotspot. First, connect to your VPN on the computer, then have your TV connect to the hotspot you've created.
Ethernet Cable: Connect your computer to your router via Wi-Fi, and then run an ethernet cable from your computer to your TV. After enabling the VPN on your computer, you can share that connection through the ethernet port.
How to do it (Wireless Hotspot on Windows):
Install and connect to your VPN on your computer.
Go to your computer's "Mobile hotspot" settings.
Turn on the hotspot.
In your network adapter settings, allow other users to connect through your computer's internet connection.
On your TV, connect to the new Wi-Fi network you just created.
Which Method is Best for You?
For Android TV, Google TV, Amazon Fire TV, or newer Apple TVs: The direct app installation is by far the easiest and most convenient option.
For Samsung, LG, and other non-app-friendly smart TVs: Setting up a VPN on your router is the most seamless and comprehensive solution.
For a temporary or less technical setup: Sharing the connection from your computer is a viable alternative.
The following is from AI (gemini.google.com free version..although I do have a subscription) ,a bit longwinded…says it better than me. A quick breakdown is that you fool a service like Youtube or Paramount+ (many others too) in regard to your location… because they show local TV stations as part of their product (including sports).
Long-winded reply from AI follows…..
————
Yes, a VPN can work for your TV, but how you set it up depends entirely on the type of TV you have. Using a VPN on your TV is a great way to protect your privacy and access streaming content from different regions that might otherwise be unavailable to you.
Here’s a breakdown of the most common ways to get a VPN running on your television:
1. The Easy Way: Direct App Installation
This is the simplest method, but it only works if you have a "smart" TV that runs on an operating system that supports VPN applications.
Android TV / Google TV: Many popular TV brands like Sony, Hisense, and TCL use this operating system. You can simply go to the Google Play Store on your TV, search for your chosen VPN provider's app (like NordVPN, ExpressVPN, or Surfshark), and install it just like you would on your phone.
Amazon Fire TV: This is another popular platform with a dedicated app store. You can easily find and install VPN apps directly onto your Fire TV or Fire TV Stick.
Apple TV (tvOS 17 and newer): With the latest software updates, you can now download and install VPN apps directly from the App Store on your Apple TV.
How to do it:
On your compatible TV or streaming device, open the app store.
Search for your VPN provider.
Download and install the app.
Log in with your credentials and connect to a server.
2. The All-in-One Solution: Set Up a VPN on Your Router
This method is a bit more technical, but it has the major advantage of extending VPN protection to every device connected to your home Wi-Fi network, including your TV, game consoles, and any other smart devices.
How it works: You install the VPN on your Wi-Fi router, and any device that connects to that router will have its internet traffic routed through the VPN. This is the best option for smart TVs that don't have a native app store for VPNs, such as those from Samsung (Tizen OS) and LG (webOS).
What you'll need: A VPN-compatible router. Not all routers support this feature, so you may need to check your router's manual or consider purchasing a pre-configured VPN router.
How to do it:
Log in to your router's admin panel.
Find the VPN settings.
Configure the settings according to your VPN provider's instructions.
Connect your TV to the router's Wi-Fi network.
3. Connection Sharing: Using Your Computer as a Middleman
If the first two options aren't suitable, you can share your computer's VPN connection with your TV. This essentially turns your computer into a VPN-protected Wi-Fi hotspot.
Wireless Hotspot: You can configure your Windows or macOS computer to broadcast a Wi-Fi hotspot. First, connect to your VPN on the computer, then have your TV connect to the hotspot you've created.
Ethernet Cable: Connect your computer to your router via Wi-Fi, and then run an ethernet cable from your computer to your TV. After enabling the VPN on your computer, you can share that connection through the ethernet port.
How to do it (Wireless Hotspot on Windows):
Install and connect to your VPN on your computer.
Go to your computer's "Mobile hotspot" settings.
Turn on the hotspot.
In your network adapter settings, allow other users to connect through your computer's internet connection.
On your TV, connect to the new Wi-Fi network you just created.
Which Method is Best for You?
For Android TV, Google TV, Amazon Fire TV, or newer Apple TVs: The direct app installation is by far the easiest and most convenient option.
For Samsung, LG, and other non-app-friendly smart TVs: Setting up a VPN on your router is the most seamless and comprehensive solution.
For a temporary or less technical setup: Sharing the connection from your computer is a viable alternative.
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Please look up IPTV. I have a IPTV box and I live in So Cal and watched every Steelers game last 2 years on my LG OLED TV for FREE. All I paid was $250 for the IPTV box and I'm good to go. I actually watch the feed from the Steelers games that Pittsburgers watch.
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Thanks- and got itOrlaco wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:42 pmGood if not great question. TV can be a ‘bit’ more complicated…because they’re not as interactive. Still…it’s ALL about apps.
The following is from AI (gemini.google.com free version..although I do have a subscription) ,a bit longwinded…says it better than me. A quick breakdown is that you fool a service like Youtube or Paramount+ (many others too) in regard to your location… because they show local TV stations as part of their product (including sports).
Long-winded reply from AI follows…..
————
Yes, a VPN can work for your TV, but how you set it up depends entirely on the type of TV you have. Using a VPN on your TV is a great way to protect your privacy and access streaming content from different regions that might otherwise be unavailable to you.
Here’s a breakdown of the most common ways to get a VPN running on your television:
1. The Easy Way: Direct App Installation
This is the simplest method, but it only works if you have a "smart" TV that runs on an operating system that supports VPN applications.
Android TV / Google TV: Many popular TV brands like Sony, Hisense, and TCL use this operating system. You can simply go to the Google Play Store on your TV, search for your chosen VPN provider's app (like NordVPN, ExpressVPN, or Surfshark), and install it just like you would on your phone.
Amazon Fire TV: This is another popular platform with a dedicated app store. You can easily find and install VPN apps directly onto your Fire TV or Fire TV Stick.
Apple TV (tvOS 17 and newer): With the latest software updates, you can now download and install VPN apps directly from the App Store on your Apple TV.
How to do it:
On your compatible TV or streaming device, open the app store.
Search for your VPN provider.
Download and install the app.
Log in with your credentials and connect to a server.
2. The All-in-One Solution: Set Up a VPN on Your Router
This method is a bit more technical, but it has the major advantage of extending VPN protection to every device connected to your home Wi-Fi network, including your TV, game consoles, and any other smart devices.
How it works: You install the VPN on your Wi-Fi router, and any device that connects to that router will have its internet traffic routed through the VPN. This is the best option for smart TVs that don't have a native app store for VPNs, such as those from Samsung (Tizen OS) and LG (webOS).
What you'll need: A VPN-compatible router. Not all routers support this feature, so you may need to check your router's manual or consider purchasing a pre-configured VPN router.
How to do it:
Log in to your router's admin panel.
Find the VPN settings.
Configure the settings according to your VPN provider's instructions.
Connect your TV to the router's Wi-Fi network.
3. Connection Sharing: Using Your Computer as a Middleman
If the first two options aren't suitable, you can share your computer's VPN connection with your TV. This essentially turns your computer into a VPN-protected Wi-Fi hotspot.
Wireless Hotspot: You can configure your Windows or macOS computer to broadcast a Wi-Fi hotspot. First, connect to your VPN on the computer, then have your TV connect to the hotspot you've created.
Ethernet Cable: Connect your computer to your router via Wi-Fi, and then run an ethernet cable from your computer to your TV. After enabling the VPN on your computer, you can share that connection through the ethernet port.
How to do it (Wireless Hotspot on Windows):
Install and connect to your VPN on your computer.
Go to your computer's "Mobile hotspot" settings.
Turn on the hotspot.
In your network adapter settings, allow other users to connect through your computer's internet connection.
On your TV, connect to the new Wi-Fi network you just created.
Which Method is Best for You?
For Android TV, Google TV, Amazon Fire TV, or newer Apple TVs: The direct app installation is by far the easiest and most convenient option.
For Samsung, LG, and other non-app-friendly smart TVs: Setting up a VPN on your router is the most seamless and comprehensive solution.
For a temporary or less technical setup: Sharing the connection from your computer is a viable alternative.
I’m still a bit perplexed that a vpn on either the television or other device would supersede the ip identification on the router or cable box
I’m going to try it for one of the preseason games and see if I can get it to work
Will report back next week lol
Great suggestiongojira5150 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:55 pmPlease look up IPTV. I have a IPTV box and I live in So Cal and watched every Steelers game last 2 years on my LG OLED TV for FREE. All I paid was $250 for the IPTV box and I'm good to go. I actually watch the feed from the Steelers games that Pittsburgers watch.
Thanks!
5150 just gave an awesome alternative… …long as you just use the box on your tv without ever giving personal info. Malware (and such) is a concern.
The use of those boxes gets incredible positive feedback… I just can’t get over the hump of losing personal information. … as if it isn’t already all out there anyway.
The use of those boxes gets incredible positive feedback… I just can’t get over the hump of losing personal information. … as if it isn’t already all out there anyway.
I will have to find a stream for precisely one game this season...Week 2 against Seattle.
It is the only game on Fox for the Steelers this season.
Every other game is either on CBS, NFLN (the Ireland game against the Vikings) or is a night time national broadcast.
It is the only game on Fox for the Steelers this season.
Every other game is either on CBS, NFLN (the Ireland game against the Vikings) or is a night time national broadcast.
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Thx. I have never had to put personal info on my IPYV unit. I use Tanggula IPTV box and use their app. Just have to update app from, time to time.Orlaco wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 6:10 pm5150 just gave an awesome alternative… …long as you just use the box on your tv without ever giving personal info. Malware (and such) is a concern.
The use of those boxes gets incredible positive feedback… I just can’t get over the hump of losing personal information. … as if it isn’t already all out there anyway.
Obliteration Is Imminent
If you guys have YouTuvbe TV, all you have to do is use a location spoofer to change your location wherever, and you get the locals games free (like PIT, or if you want to watch SEC sports).
Heck, it's a neat trick even if you just want to follow local news where you grew up.
Heck, it's a neat trick even if you just want to follow local news where you grew up.
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You can install VPNs via smart TVs or a Fire stick / cube / roku etc.anpsteel wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:47 pmA couple questionsOrlaco wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:35 pmResearch VPN’s. There are free versions…but way higher quality types can be found for around $10 per month.
They’ll camouflage your IP address to match any local area so you can watch any game (from any league) being broadcast on a local channel.
——
Might seem intimidating. …but it’s pretty straightforward. I’d actually suggest it just for personal Internet security.
How are you installing a vpn at the tv level?
Next- let’s say I’m running a vpn on my laptop- and set it to suggest I’m in Canada
How does that allow me to watch other games?
Genuinely curious- because I’d love to not pay $450 for the few games that aren’t broadcast
If you set it for Canada then you could get whatever is on in Canadian markets for streaming and such. Like Monday night Hockey or whatever they call it on Amazon prime.
I don't think you can stream NFL games from a Canadian (Geo-located) account unless you have the international package.
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What do you use to view the local channels out of market?Orlaco wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:35 pmResearch VPN’s. There are free versions…but way higher quality types can be found for around $10 per month.
They’ll camouflage your IP address to match any local area so you can watch any game (from any league) being broadcast on a local channel.
——
Might seem intimidating. …but it’s pretty straightforward. I’d actually suggest it just for personal Internet security.
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Is your Tanggula box still working? It looks like they have disappeared??!!gojira5150 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 18, 2025 4:16 pmThx. I have never had to put personal info on my IPYV unit. I use Tanggula IPTV box and use their app. Just have to update app from, time to time.Orlaco wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 6:10 pm5150 just gave an awesome alternative… …long as you just use the box on your tv without ever giving personal info. Malware (and such) is a concern.
The use of those boxes gets incredible positive feedback… I just can’t get over the hump of losing personal information. … as if it isn’t already all out there anyway.
I have Nordvpn and there are no servers in Pittsburgh or Pennsylvania, how do yo VPN into local Pittsburgh??
Orlaco wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:42 pmGood if not great question. TV can be a ‘bit’ more complicated…because they’re not as interactive. Still…it’s ALL about apps.
The following is from AI (gemini.google.com free version..although I do have a subscription) ,a bit longwinded…says it better than me. A quick breakdown is that you fool a service like Youtube or Paramount+ (many others too) in regard to your location… because they show local TV stations as part of their product (including sports).
Long-winded reply from AI follows…..
————
Yes, a VPN can work for your TV, but how you set it up depends entirely on the type of TV you have. Using a VPN on your TV is a great way to protect your privacy and access streaming content from different regions that might otherwise be unavailable to you.
Here’s a breakdown of the most common ways to get a VPN running on your television:
1. The Easy Way: Direct App Installation
This is the simplest method, but it only works if you have a "smart" TV that runs on an operating system that supports VPN applications.
Android TV / Google TV: Many popular TV brands like Sony, Hisense, and TCL use this operating system. You can simply go to the Google Play Store on your TV, search for your chosen VPN provider's app (like NordVPN, ExpressVPN, or Surfshark), and install it just like you would on your phone.
Amazon Fire TV: This is another popular platform with a dedicated app store. You can easily find and install VPN apps directly onto your Fire TV or Fire TV Stick.
Apple TV (tvOS 17 and newer): With the latest software updates, you can now download and install VPN apps directly from the App Store on your Apple TV.
How to do it:
On your compatible TV or streaming device, open the app store.
Search for your VPN provider.
Download and install the app.
Log in with your credentials and connect to a server.
2. The All-in-One Solution: Set Up a VPN on Your Router
This method is a bit more technical, but it has the major advantage of extending VPN protection to every device connected to your home Wi-Fi network, including your TV, game consoles, and any other smart devices.
How it works: You install the VPN on your Wi-Fi router, and any device that connects to that router will have its internet traffic routed through the VPN. This is the best option for smart TVs that don't have a native app store for VPNs, such as those from Samsung (Tizen OS) and LG (webOS).
What you'll need: A VPN-compatible router. Not all routers support this feature, so you may need to check your router's manual or consider purchasing a pre-configured VPN router.
How to do it:
Log in to your router's admin panel.
Find the VPN settings.
Configure the settings according to your VPN provider's instructions.
Connect your TV to the router's Wi-Fi network.
3. Connection Sharing: Using Your Computer as a Middleman
If the first two options aren't suitable, you can share your computer's VPN connection with your TV. This essentially turns your computer into a VPN-protected Wi-Fi hotspot.
Wireless Hotspot: You can configure your Windows or macOS computer to broadcast a Wi-Fi hotspot. First, connect to your VPN on the computer, then have your TV connect to the hotspot you've created.
Ethernet Cable: Connect your computer to your router via Wi-Fi, and then run an ethernet cable from your computer to your TV. After enabling the VPN on your computer, you can share that connection through the ethernet port.
How to do it (Wireless Hotspot on Windows):
Install and connect to your VPN on your computer.
Go to your computer's "Mobile hotspot" settings.
Turn on the hotspot.
In your network adapter settings, allow other users to connect through your computer's internet connection.
On your TV, connect to the new Wi-Fi network you just created.
Which Method is Best for You?
For Android TV, Google TV, Amazon Fire TV, or newer Apple TVs: The direct app installation is by far the easiest and most convenient option.
For Samsung, LG, and other non-app-friendly smart TVs: Setting up a VPN on your router is the most seamless and comprehensive solution.
For a temporary or less technical setup: Sharing the connection from your computer is a viable alternative.
I have Nordvpn and there are no servers in Pittsburgh or Pennsylvania, how do yo VPN into local Pittsburgh??CASTEELER wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 12:21 amI have Nordvpn and there are no servers in Pittsburgh or Pennsylvania, how do yo VPN into local Pittsburgh??
Orlaco wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:42 pmGood if not great question. TV can be a ‘bit’ more complicated…because they’re not as interactive. Still…it’s ALL about apps.
The following is from AI (gemini.google.com free version..although I do have a subscription) ,a bit longwinded…says it better than me. A quick breakdown is that you fool a service like Youtube or Paramount+ (many others too) in regard to your location… because they show local TV stations as part of their product (including sports).
Long-winded reply from AI follows…..
————
Yes, a VPN can work for your TV, but how you set it up depends entirely on the type of TV you have. Using a VPN on your TV is a great way to protect your privacy and access streaming content from different regions that might otherwise be unavailable to you.
Here’s a breakdown of the most common ways to get a VPN running on your television:
1. The Easy Way: Direct App Installation
This is the simplest method, but it only works if you have a "smart" TV that runs on an operating system that supports VPN applications.
Android TV / Google TV: Many popular TV brands like Sony, Hisense, and TCL use this operating system. You can simply go to the Google Play Store on your TV, search for your chosen VPN provider's app (like NordVPN, ExpressVPN, or Surfshark), and install it just like you would on your phone.
Amazon Fire TV: This is another popular platform with a dedicated app store. You can easily find and install VPN apps directly onto your Fire TV or Fire TV Stick.
Apple TV (tvOS 17 and newer): With the latest software updates, you can now download and install VPN apps directly from the App Store on your Apple TV.
How to do it:
On your compatible TV or streaming device, open the app store.
Search for your VPN provider.
Download and install the app.
Log in with your credentials and connect to a server.
2. The All-in-One Solution: Set Up a VPN on Your Router
This method is a bit more technical, but it has the major advantage of extending VPN protection to every device connected to your home Wi-Fi network, including your TV, game consoles, and any other smart devices.
How it works: You install the VPN on your Wi-Fi router, and any device that connects to that router will have its internet traffic routed through the VPN. This is the best option for smart TVs that don't have a native app store for VPNs, such as those from Samsung (Tizen OS) and LG (webOS).
What you'll need: A VPN-compatible router. Not all routers support this feature, so you may need to check your router's manual or consider purchasing a pre-configured VPN router.
How to do it:
Log in to your router's admin panel.
Find the VPN settings.
Configure the settings according to your VPN provider's instructions.
Connect your TV to the router's Wi-Fi network.
3. Connection Sharing: Using Your Computer as a Middleman
If the first two options aren't suitable, you can share your computer's VPN connection with your TV. This essentially turns your computer into a VPN-protected Wi-Fi hotspot.
Wireless Hotspot: You can configure your Windows or macOS computer to broadcast a Wi-Fi hotspot. First, connect to your VPN on the computer, then have your TV connect to the hotspot you've created.
Ethernet Cable: Connect your computer to your router via Wi-Fi, and then run an ethernet cable from your computer to your TV. After enabling the VPN on your computer, you can share that connection through the ethernet port.
How to do it (Wireless Hotspot on Windows):
Install and connect to your VPN on your computer.
Go to your computer's "Mobile hotspot" settings.
Turn on the hotspot.
In your network adapter settings, allow other users to connect through your computer's internet connection.
On your TV, connect to the new Wi-Fi network you just created.
Which Method is Best for You?
For Android TV, Google TV, Amazon Fire TV, or newer Apple TVs: The direct app installation is by far the easiest and most convenient option.
For Samsung, LG, and other non-app-friendly smart TVs: Setting up a VPN on your router is the most seamless and comprehensive solution.
For a temporary or less technical setup: Sharing the connection from your computer is a viable alternative.
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10 years ago, I would never go without it. I will see all games again this year, the schedule makers somehow managed to make it where the Steelers and Browns won't conflict with one another. I'll listen to the game on the radio next time they aren't on. This isn't the dame NFL I grew up watching.
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swissvale72
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That's about where I am as well. The advent of Sunday Ticket was a joyous day for me in the hinterlands of New England, and I was on record in saying I would pay three times the then cost of $300. Well...now the cost has nearly doubled and the final straw was hearing a guy who makes $15M yearly and was just paid a $13M roster bonus talk about needing to support his family.Stlcrtn1974 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 10:07 am10 years ago, I would never go without it. I will see all games again this year, the schedule makers somehow managed to make it where the Steelers and Browns won't conflict with one another. I'll listen to the game on the radio next time they aren't on. This isn't the dame NFL I grew up watching.
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LakecrestSteeler
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I sound like a broken record on this esteemed website, but IPTV is the answer not VPN! Every channel, broadcasted Sports Leagues, and streaming service in the world, and large video on demand services including adult for around $8 a month. Zero hyperbole!
Question 1. How do I get IPTV? Download an app for your SmartTV, Roku, FireStick/TV or AppleTV. start with Smarters app…usually free and on most platforms.
Quick answer for AppleTV - For AppleTV UHF is a great app. $34 last I checked. Pay for lifetime because once you IPTV you aren’t going back. You can get free IPTV apps too.
Q2. I got the IPTV App now what? Then you need to find a provider. Quick answer below. Google best IPTV providers or TroyPoint top20 IPTV providers and pick one to try…most of them offer easy free trials for 24-72 hours. Test them out for picture quality, lag, buffering, offerings, languages, adult, sports leagues, VOD library size etc.
Q3 There are so many how do I choose? I have been on Fury for awhile and have done the work.
Paranoid and want to pay crypto and anonymously? It is fairly difficult to pay truly anonymously, and if you are reading about this on Fury, I would guess that ship has sailed, but try this service: https://thetvapp.to/
and hit the subscribe button.
Just want to pay with credit card? I can vouch for both this one and the one above: https://wizardtv.net/plans/
I paid for 6 months and 3 connections for $8 a month over 6 months.
Q4. Now what do I do? Plug your credentials into the IPTV app and start watching amazing nearly freeTV. The longer your term the less you pay. Risk goes up however if they closeup shop. Hasn’t happened to me and I have tried 10-15 on the top 20 from TroyPoint.
Bonus Question: What do I use a VPN for or what is the biggest bang for the buck?
If you love watching YouTube videos set your VPN to Andora or Albania where Google does not monetize YT. Commercial free YouTube. Confirmed with NordVPN!
Question 1. How do I get IPTV? Download an app for your SmartTV, Roku, FireStick/TV or AppleTV. start with Smarters app…usually free and on most platforms.
Quick answer for AppleTV - For AppleTV UHF is a great app. $34 last I checked. Pay for lifetime because once you IPTV you aren’t going back. You can get free IPTV apps too.
Q2. I got the IPTV App now what? Then you need to find a provider. Quick answer below. Google best IPTV providers or TroyPoint top20 IPTV providers and pick one to try…most of them offer easy free trials for 24-72 hours. Test them out for picture quality, lag, buffering, offerings, languages, adult, sports leagues, VOD library size etc.
Q3 There are so many how do I choose? I have been on Fury for awhile and have done the work.
Paranoid and want to pay crypto and anonymously? It is fairly difficult to pay truly anonymously, and if you are reading about this on Fury, I would guess that ship has sailed, but try this service: https://thetvapp.to/
and hit the subscribe button.
Just want to pay with credit card? I can vouch for both this one and the one above: https://wizardtv.net/plans/
I paid for 6 months and 3 connections for $8 a month over 6 months.
Q4. Now what do I do? Plug your credentials into the IPTV app and start watching amazing nearly freeTV. The longer your term the less you pay. Risk goes up however if they closeup shop. Hasn’t happened to me and I have tried 10-15 on the top 20 from TroyPoint.
Bonus Question: What do I use a VPN for or what is the biggest bang for the buck?
If you love watching YouTube videos set your VPN to Andora or Albania where Google does not monetize YT. Commercial free YouTube. Confirmed with NordVPN!
I'm just going to promote Youtube TV again. I honestly don't know if there's a [legit] better service out there for the price. And the kicker is, by spoofing your location you can get any college or pro game free. Admittedly I don't know how it works with ESPN and things like B1G or SEC networks, although I think they give you the conference channel in your area (so PIT would get B1G, but if you go Alabama you probably get SEC).
Wish I would have thought of it during the Tour de France - it wasn't on any local US stations (at least not offered on YTTV basic package).
Sorry Apple people, I use Android. PM me if you want details how to do this (presumably it's the same process, but you'll have to find a location spoofer that works with IOS).
YTTV has increased prices. I think I'm around $82 per month all-in with taxes. Which is still at least $50 per month lower than Comcast or AT&T. But take a look at Xfinity mobile - I have a bundled cell/internet package for like $100 per month with taxes. No complaints at all on the cell service, internet is great, too, though 1.2TB data limit might not be enough for families.
Wish I would have thought of it during the Tour de France - it wasn't on any local US stations (at least not offered on YTTV basic package).
Sorry Apple people, I use Android. PM me if you want details how to do this (presumably it's the same process, but you'll have to find a location spoofer that works with IOS).
YTTV has increased prices. I think I'm around $82 per month all-in with taxes. Which is still at least $50 per month lower than Comcast or AT&T. But take a look at Xfinity mobile - I have a bundled cell/internet package for like $100 per month with taxes. No complaints at all on the cell service, internet is great, too, though 1.2TB data limit might not be enough for families.
Interesting. I've been struggling to figure out how to watch youtube without signing in - it refuses to work with VPN or Firefox multi-containers (fuck you Google - you WILL NOT track me across the internet, although you're probably doing it by fingerprinting my browser anyway).LakecrestSteeler wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:02 pmIf you love watching YouTube videos set your VPN to Andora or Albania where Google does not monetize YT. Commercial free YouTube. Confirmed with NordVPN!
I'm not using NordVPN, so I don't know if it's a bit more customizable than mine. Problem is, I don't want to change or toggle my VPN location just for Youtube. It might work if I chose one of the locations you mention or similar, but I need a set-and-forget solution.
Hmmm...this gives me an idea because Firefox multi-containers have an option for VPN, so that could work if I set a site-specific VPN for it.
Doesn't even have to be that complicated.stillthere wrote: ↑Mon Aug 18, 2025 8:24 pmYou can install VPNs via smart TVs or a Fire stick / cube / roku etc.
Most newish TVs - or if not with a chromecast - can easily be "cast" from your phone. It's actually harder on your computer, generally. And also much much more difficult to "trick" your computer's location. But with a phone you can do it either with a location spoofer app or VPN app, and in some cases maybe both.
So spoof location on your phone. Start watching game on phone. Then cast to TV. I have youtube tv, and there's an extra step or two to change my chromestick location to PIT and watch it natively from my TV.
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LakecrestSteeler
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AppleTV allows toggling the VPN pretty easily. Double square press, left 2 clicks and down and then enter on pop-up screen. I can do it in my sleep. It always reconnects to your last VPN connection..Kodiak wrote: ↑Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:02 amInteresting. I've been struggling to figure out how to watch youtube without signing in - it refuses to work with VPN or Firefox multi-containers (fuck you Google - you WILL NOT track me across the internet, although you're probably doing it by fingerprinting my browser anyway).LakecrestSteeler wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:02 pmIf you love watching YouTube videos set your VPN to Andora or Albania where Google does not monetize YT. Commercial free YouTube. Confirmed with NordVPN!
I'm not using NordVPN, so I don't know if it's a bit more customizable than mine. Problem is, I don't want to change or toggle my VPN location just for Youtube. It might work if I chose one of the locations you mention or similar, but I need a set-and-forget solution.
Hmmm...this gives me an idea because Firefox multi-containers have an option for VPN, so that could work if I set a site-specific VPN for it.
So I just do that for YouTube. It works for most everything else bandwidth wise, but then when stuff depends on a US zone you have to remember it is on and toggle it back off.
I couldn’t watch YouTube without my subscription list. But then you watch one Norm McDonald video and they think you are a fanatic and hook you up with every Norm video known to mankind, every comedy store channel etc. that gets annoying. Sometimes you just want to watch videos without tweaking an algorithm. Conversely, sometimes you don’t mind the YT recommendations.
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stillthere
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I have a big plex server for TV and Movies. I use an antennae for local broadcast TV. I can stream if I have to. I have amazon so that covers Thursday. games. Monday I can just go to a bar and grab a few beers and watch if need be.tango_mike wrote: ↑Mon Aug 18, 2025 10:02 pmWhat do you use to view the local channels out of market?Orlaco wrote: ↑Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:35 pmResearch VPN’s. There are free versions…but way higher quality types can be found for around $10 per month.
They’ll camouflage your IP address to match any local area so you can watch any game (from any league) being broadcast on a local channel.
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Might seem intimidating. …but it’s pretty straightforward. I’d actually suggest it just for personal Internet security.
I also hooked a Homerun box to my plex server so I can stream local TV across the internet where ever I am.

