oof. I hadn't heard that storySteeldrama wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 11:47 ambradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 4:19 amWill Campbell is in fact that bad. It wasn't that hard to see on his college film. Still trying to figure out how he got hyped into an early first rounder. Christian Gonzalez, on the other hand, is a stud.Steelperch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 2:49 amIs the Seahawks D this good or are the Pats last two first round picks this bad?
Gotta love Tomlin taking Gonzalez off the draft board after what he deemed a poor visit.
Tomlin apparently went so far as to tell Minkah that Gonzalez lacked the "competitive edge" to be a Steeler.
Sure looked competitive to me breaking up all those passes in a game called the SUPER BOWL.
Good call, Mike.
Ya barrel of monkey nuts.
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The selection was MARKETING. 600M potential viewers.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 10:02 pmOutside the Neocons who aren't even really "conservative", I don't know of anyone on the right side of the political spectrum who would shed a tear over Puerto Rico no longer being our burden.Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 9:54 pm"The only political statement i caught was using the PR flag for indepentance"
His terms are acceptable. Unfortunately PR independence is polling at 15 percent on the island.
Take Minnesota with you and we can focus on Alberta.
The entire performance being in Spanish and his selection in the first place were political. Not much else to say on it. I don't care about Bad Bunny whatsoever. If I have any ire to direct, it's at Goodell and his minions who thought this was a good choice.
But yea that music is terrible to my white ears.
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Actually Mike McDonald thanked God.
His actual words were "yah mo be there"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SPYSrcxhzY
The other Michael McDonald would have been a better halftime act.
His actual words were "yah mo be there"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SPYSrcxhzY
The other Michael McDonald would have been a better halftime act.
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There's a lot of bullshit being spread on social media about the supposed ratings for the halftime show and the "alternative" hosted by Kid Rock. Online viewership totals from all platforms are estimated at around 25 million. Youtube alone was 5-6 million at its peak.Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 10:40 pmI'm confused. Apparently the lyrics are about Puerto Rico leaving the US but also about stopping ICE to keep people in the US.
Make up your mind already.
In the end, this was Roger Goodell's epic fail at reading the zeitgeist and trying to be a cool dad.
If the NFL really wanted to get eyeballs from Europe, they'd book Dua Lipa or Rita Ora or someone like that.
Or even Steve Aoki.
Think about that. The ratings for that were never going to be what the Super Bowl's will end up being, but that's a whole lot of people who were alienated enough to watch that shit mostly out of spite.
We don't have the actual numbers or even estimates for the halftime show yet and won't have anything really until tomorrow. But social media is filled with lies and propaganda on the subject.
But try as they might, the Super Bowl remains an American event. Over 2-3x as many people watch the game in America than globally. They picked a performer who was GUARANTEED to piss off roughly half the country on principle.
How do you pass that off as a "good" business decision? I just don't see it. Old white dudes griping about the half time show is one thing. Pissing them off by politicizing it (and I'm real tired of the left leaning douches saying there was nothing political about it - not aimed at people here on this site really) was just beyond stupid to me.
Some decentportion of the audience paid less attention and/or turned off the game to watch an alternative event that still had a bunch of music they probably don't care for just to say fuck you to the NFL.
Not all controversy is a good thing. Even if all of Latin America tuned in to see Bad Bunny perform, which we know they didn't, it'd still be a pretty stupid decision to alienate a huge portion of your core audience and the people who keep the money rolling in to get some eyeballs from outsiders who normally wouldn't care and who will go back to not caring as soon as it's over.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 11:13 pmThe selection was MARKETING. 600M potential viewers.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 10:02 pmOutside the Neocons who aren't even really "conservative", I don't know of anyone on the right side of the political spectrum who would shed a tear over Puerto Rico no longer being our burden.Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 9:54 pm"The only political statement i caught was using the PR flag for indepentance"
His terms are acceptable. Unfortunately PR independence is polling at 15 percent on the island.
Take Minnesota with you and we can focus on Alberta.
The entire performance being in Spanish and his selection in the first place were political. Not much else to say on it. I don't care about Bad Bunny whatsoever. If I have any ire to direct, it's at Goodell and his minions who thought this was a good choice.
But yea that music is terrible to my white ears.
I guess there could be one little child named Diego who tuned into to see Bad Bunny who said to himself hey this sport is pretty awesome and will pick it up. But I don't think we are talking about a significant number at all.
The Bad Bunny fiasco reminds me of Star Wars under Disney. They bought this epic franchise with a massive built in largely male fan group. All they needed to do was tell a decent story and pay some minor respect to the old story.
Instead, they thought "that fanbase will always show up -- would be great if we could expand the fanbase to include others." So they decided to make it about a Mary Sue while shitting all over the heroes of old thereby alienating the original fanbase. The new fanbase never showed up. They managed to seriously tarnish a brand that should've been impossible to tarnish for very little profit.
Bad Bunny per se may not cause a similar fall out. But if that attitude remains and isn't corrected, it will only be a matter of time.
Instead, they thought "that fanbase will always show up -- would be great if we could expand the fanbase to include others." So they decided to make it about a Mary Sue while shitting all over the heroes of old thereby alienating the original fanbase. The new fanbase never showed up. They managed to seriously tarnish a brand that should've been impossible to tarnish for very little profit.
Bad Bunny per se may not cause a similar fall out. But if that attitude remains and isn't corrected, it will only be a matter of time.
Good example.zeke5123 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 1:50 amThe Bad Bunny fiasco reminds me of Star Wars under Disney. They bought this epic franchise with a massive built in largely male fan group. All they needed to do was tell a decent story and pay some minor respect to the old story.
Instead, they thought "that fanbase will always show up -- would be great if we could expand the fanbase to include others." So they decided to make it about a Mary Sue while shitting all over the heroes of old thereby alienating the original fanbase. The new fanbase never showed up. They managed to seriously tarnish a brand that should've been impossible to tarnish for very little profit.
Bad Bunny per se may not cause a similar fall out. But if that attitude remains and isn't corrected, it will only be a matter of time.
Star Wars should have been very difficult to fuck up yet they managed to do so.
Walt is rolling over in his grave over what Disney has become.
Star Wars and Marvel together were basically a license to print money at a time when the rest of the industry was in rapid decline. They killed both almost entirely. I mean I get why Marvel keeps their guy in charge. It's past the point where he should have been removed regardless of prior success, but Kathleen Kennedy was a glorified coffee fetcher and hand job provider who probably has dirt on Spielberg and Lucas.955876 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 2:20 amGood example.zeke5123 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 1:50 amThe Bad Bunny fiasco reminds me of Star Wars under Disney. They bought this epic franchise with a massive built in largely male fan group. All they needed to do was tell a decent story and pay some minor respect to the old story.
Instead, they thought "that fanbase will always show up -- would be great if we could expand the fanbase to include others." So they decided to make it about a Mary Sue while shitting all over the heroes of old thereby alienating the original fanbase. The new fanbase never showed up. They managed to seriously tarnish a brand that should've been impossible to tarnish for very little profit.
Bad Bunny per se may not cause a similar fall out. But if that attitude remains and isn't corrected, it will only be a matter of time.
Star Wars should have been very difficult to fuck up yet they managed to do so.
Walt is rolling over in his grave over what Disney has become.
The attitude permeates every "business" decision they make. I get it that a lot of people are cutting the cord with TV's, but going to 12 different streaming services is a real bad choice for the long term health of the league. I don't care if the WWE is doing the same shit. Or other sports leagues with far more games do it. That's just one example.
A slightly bigger broadcasting contract isn't worth losing a significant number of eyeballs on your product by balkanizing it.
I could provide examples all day like this in every choice they make. If or maybe even when the NFL falls or declines, it will be death by a thousand paper cuts directed at the fans who were the bedrock of everything who they took for granted in efforts to court this or that alternative market.
It may seem like something that comes suddenly or rapidly all at once, but it'll be the end result of a large number of arrogant and shortsighted decisions.
Bad Bunny is what you get when you're the NFL and you pay Jay-Z to decide on the halftime shows.
Not my words...
"Jay-Z has never performed in a Super Bowl halftime show, but his company, Roc Nation, has produced the, Apple Music halftime show since 2020. As the NFL's live music strategist, he has curated critically acclaimed performances for Super Bowl LIV through LX, focusing on cultural relevance and diversifying the lineup."
Not my words...
"Jay-Z has never performed in a Super Bowl halftime show, but his company, Roc Nation, has produced the, Apple Music halftime show since 2020. As the NFL's live music strategist, he has curated critically acclaimed performances for Super Bowl LIV through LX, focusing on cultural relevance and diversifying the lineup."
I see why they were promoting Gonzalez in every single ad....makes sense now.
They could have at least closed-captioned Big Bunny's groundbreaking and cultural enriching performance...
Oh wait, no they couldn't have done that.
Defining deviancy down, one day at a time. But hey, they had sugar cane there, and EBT card signs, things of that nature.
Who pulls Goodell's strings...
They could have at least closed-captioned Big Bunny's groundbreaking and cultural enriching performance...
Oh wait, no they couldn't have done that.
Defining deviancy down, one day at a time. But hey, they had sugar cane there, and EBT card signs, things of that nature.
Who pulls Goodell's strings...
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Goodell is a globalist. He wants to put teams in Europe and anywhere else so he can rake more cash. Grow the game bullshitlanger wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 10:31 amI see why they were promoting Gonzalez in every single ad....makes sense now.
They could have at least closed-captioned Big Bunny's groundbreaking and cultural enriching performance...
Oh wait, no they couldn't have done that.
Defining deviancy down, one day at a time. But hey, they had sugar cane there, and EBT card signs, things of that nature.
Who pulls Goodell's strings...
He’s a puppet on a string too, Must have been some back door deal for this bunny shit……BB was a construct of Maduro cash and cartel constructs. Bad people and bad Business decision by goofwell But maybe they threatened him
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We shall see Nielsen but https://x.com/samba_tv/status/2021007799476682972?s=46bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 11:13 pmThe selection was MARKETING. 600M potential viewers.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 10:02 pmOutside the Neocons who aren't even really "conservative", I don't know of anyone on the right side of the political spectrum who would shed a tear over Puerto Rico no longer being our burden.Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 9:54 pm"The only political statement i caught was using the PR flag for indepentance"
His terms are acceptable. Unfortunately PR independence is polling at 15 percent on the island.
Take Minnesota with you and we can focus on Alberta.
The entire performance being in Spanish and his selection in the first place were political. Not much else to say on it. I don't care about Bad Bunny whatsoever. If I have any ire to direct, it's at Goodell and his minions who thought this was a good choice.
But yea that music is terrible to my white ears.
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Goodell's thinking is wrong but here it is in a nutshell:
Old white guys like us are going to watch the game anyway and skip the halftime show unless its a Dad Rock act but that will alienate the prized gullible 18-35 demo that advertisers crave. I bet most of you guys are immune to advertising at this point in your lives but the consequence of that is they now have license to not care what you think.
So he figures get a "global" artist for eyeballs in that vulnerable.group. But he misread the audience. Dua Lipa or Taylor Swift would have worked much better especially with females who watch less football.
Having been to many countries, I can tell you that he lives in a bubble and is delusional about the expansion of the NFL. How many years has he had London Games? If it were going to work it would have by now. Most of the world is far more into soccer and even cricket. I don't understand the appeal but I didn't grow up with those sports but at least I realize I don't know what I don't know. One advantage soccer has over football is that it is far cheaper to play and get your kid into. We've wrecked that in the US with these fucking clubs.
One Dad Rock Act that might get a lot of eyeballs is a Police reunion but I can't think of too many more. Greta Van Fleet to bridge the gap? How old is Jay Z now anyway? It's not like his musical tastes are current and hip at the moment anyway.
Old white guys like us are going to watch the game anyway and skip the halftime show unless its a Dad Rock act but that will alienate the prized gullible 18-35 demo that advertisers crave. I bet most of you guys are immune to advertising at this point in your lives but the consequence of that is they now have license to not care what you think.
So he figures get a "global" artist for eyeballs in that vulnerable.group. But he misread the audience. Dua Lipa or Taylor Swift would have worked much better especially with females who watch less football.
Having been to many countries, I can tell you that he lives in a bubble and is delusional about the expansion of the NFL. How many years has he had London Games? If it were going to work it would have by now. Most of the world is far more into soccer and even cricket. I don't understand the appeal but I didn't grow up with those sports but at least I realize I don't know what I don't know. One advantage soccer has over football is that it is far cheaper to play and get your kid into. We've wrecked that in the US with these fucking clubs.
One Dad Rock Act that might get a lot of eyeballs is a Police reunion but I can't think of too many more. Greta Van Fleet to bridge the gap? How old is Jay Z now anyway? It's not like his musical tastes are current and hip at the moment anyway.
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Green Day and Kid Rock are Dad Rock at this point. Boomer bands are Grandad Rock, approaching Great-Grandad Rock. Steven Tyler of Aerosmith is damn near 80 years old, and Aerosmith is one of the younger Boomer bands. Even older Gen X bands like the Police are solidly Grandad Rock. Sting is 75, and I was a toddler when the Police were big (I'm in my mid-40s now). I don't think many people under 55 would care about a Police reunion.Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 2:05 pmGoodell's thinking is wrong but here it is in a nutshell:
Old white guys like us are going to watch the game anyway and skip the halftime show unless its a Dad Rock act but that will alienate the prized gullible 18-35 demo that advertisers crave.
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One Dad Rock Act that might get a lot of eyeballs is a Police reunion but I can't think of too many more. Greta Van Fleet to bridge the gap? How old is Jay Z now anyway? It's not like his musical tastes are current and hip at the moment anyway.
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Green Day was WAY better than Bad Bunny.
You are correct about the Grandad rock timeline.
You are correct about the Grandad rock timeline.
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I agree, and I think Green Day should have been the Halftime show, but I have always liked Green Day. I was in middle school when they first hit it big 30 years ago. I have a kid getting ready to start college now, which puts in perspective how much time has passed. Green Day playing Super Bowl LX was almost the equivalent of The Rolling Stones playing Super Bowl XL.Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 4:28 pmGreen Day was WAY better than Bad Bunny.
You are correct about the Grandad rock timeline.
Setting aside the political issues, Bad Bunny's music sounded generic and boring to me. My kids don't care for his music either.
I remember when a bunch of us were like "crap, we're the target demo now". Think that was when they had The Who, maybe ACDC and a few others from that era and they all sounded TERRIBLE. What's the point of giving people a legendary band if they're just going to complain they are too past their prime?
So maybe it's as simple as the NFL is more interested in an enetertainment spectacle since it seems to be such a struggle to actually produce good music in that set-up.
So maybe it's as simple as the NFL is more interested in an enetertainment spectacle since it seems to be such a struggle to actually produce good music in that set-up.
I understand that the NFL half time show isn't for the old (white) guy demographic or even those who will watch the game anyway because they actually like the game.
I've always viewed it as I said earlier - something to appeal to the normies who tune in because it's an event or because they are married/dating someone who is going to watch. People at parties who end up captive audiences.
But you could still pick an act with more appeal to that group than Bad Bunny despite his popularity "globally" without pissing off a sizable portion of your fanbase. The ones who you rely on week to week throughout the season.
Taylor Swift would have produced eyerolls from many guys, but would have been pretty non-controversial. That's just one example of many different acts they could have used.
That's what I think the people defending this as a good business decision (and I know Dan was just saying what he thinks Goodell thinks) miss entirely. This isn't a situation where you have to alienate the other group to the extent that we end up with 25 million people tuning in online to an alternative half time.
I've always viewed it as I said earlier - something to appeal to the normies who tune in because it's an event or because they are married/dating someone who is going to watch. People at parties who end up captive audiences.
But you could still pick an act with more appeal to that group than Bad Bunny despite his popularity "globally" without pissing off a sizable portion of your fanbase. The ones who you rely on week to week throughout the season.
Taylor Swift would have produced eyerolls from many guys, but would have been pretty non-controversial. That's just one example of many different acts they could have used.
That's what I think the people defending this as a good business decision (and I know Dan was just saying what he thinks Goodell thinks) miss entirely. This isn't a situation where you have to alienate the other group to the extent that we end up with 25 million people tuning in online to an alternative half time.
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You've got it backwards. The Network TV audience is old and downscale, The streaming audience is younger, bigger, and allows for curated marketing & advertising.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 4:11 amThe attitude permeates every "business" decision they make. I get it that a lot of people are cutting the cord with TV's, but going to 12 different streaming services is a real bad choice for the long term health of the league. I don't care if the WWE is doing the same shit. Or other sports leagues with far more games do it. That's just one example.
A slightly bigger broadcasting contract isn't worth losing a significant number of eyeballs on your product by balkanizing it.
I could provide examples all day like this in every choice they make. If or maybe even when the NFL falls or declines, it will be death by a thousand paper cuts directed at the fans who were the bedrock of everything who they took for granted in efforts to court this or that alternative market.
It may seem like something that comes suddenly or rapidly all at once, but it'll be the end result of a large number of arrogant and shortsighted decisions.
The NFL trying to diversify its broadcasts is their attempt to follow and grow their audience. Network TV is dying, simply because its audience is getting older and older on average and dying off.As of late 2025/early 2026, streaming services dominate U.S. TV viewership, accounting for over 47% of total viewing time, while broadcast (network) TV has dropped below 20%. Streaming, led by services like YouTube and Netflix, has become the primary choice for 83% of American adults, far outpacing traditional cable and broadcast combined.
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Did you miss the NFL scheduling games in Mexico & Brazil? Missed their spanish-language broadcasts, spanish-language sports talk, and ESPN Desportes?CKSteeler wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 5:15 pmI understand that the NFL half time show isn't for the old (white) guy demographic or even those who will watch the game anyway because they actually like the game.
I've always viewed it as I said earlier - something to appeal to the normies who tune in because it's an event or because they are married/dating someone who is going to watch. People at parties who end up captive audiences.
But you could still pick an act with more appeal to that group than Bad Bunny despite his popularity "globally" without pissing off a sizable portion of your fanbase. The ones who you rely on week to week throughout the season.
Taylor Swift would have produced eyerolls from many guys, but would have been pretty non-controversial. That's just one example of many different acts they could have used.
That's what I think the people defending this as a good business decision (and I know Dan was just saying what he thinks Goodell thinks) miss entirely. This isn't a situation where you have to alienate the other group to the extent that we end up with 25 million people tuning in online to an alternative half time.
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Mini-political rant- sorry mods, but I've had enough of this "oh woe is me" crap from the people who support a party that has pretty much all the political power in the country at the moment. Even when they win, that's not enough for them to stop feeling victimized.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 11:16 pmThere's a lot of bullshit being spread on social media about the supposed ratings for the halftime show and the "alternative" hosted by Kid Rock. Online viewership totals from all platforms are estimated at around 25 million. Youtube alone was 5-6 million at its peak.Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 10:40 pmI'm confused. Apparently the lyrics are about Puerto Rico leaving the US but also about stopping ICE to keep people in the US.
Make up your mind already.
In the end, this was Roger Goodell's epic fail at reading the zeitgeist and trying to be a cool dad.
If the NFL really wanted to get eyeballs from Europe, they'd book Dua Lipa or Rita Ora or someone like that.
Or even Steve Aoki.
Think about that. The ratings for that were never going to be what the Super Bowl's will end up being, but that's a whole lot of people who were alienated enough to watch that shit mostly out of spite.
We don't have the actual numbers or even estimates for the halftime show yet and won't have anything really until tomorrow. But social media is filled with lies and propaganda on the subject.
But try as they might, the Super Bowl remains an American event. Over 2-3x as many people watch the game in America than globally. They picked a performer who was GUARANTEED to piss off roughly half the country on principle.
How do you pass that off as a "good" business decision? I just don't see it. Old white dudes griping about the half time show is one thing. Pissing them off by politicizing it (and I'm real tired of the left leaning douches saying there was nothing political about it - not aimed at people here on this site really) was just beyond stupid to me.
Some decentportion of the audience paid less attention and/or turned off the game to watch an alternative event that still had a bunch of music they probably don't care for just to say fuck you to the NFL.
No- the NFL picked a performer that has a global audience second only to that of Taylor Swift.
And half of Trump's supporters had never heard of Bad Bunny until the President told them to be angry that he was selected, so just stop it.
Not everything that is done in the world is done with the expressed point of pissing MAGAs off.
And stop letting political talking heads convince you that they are done for that purpose.
Don't like Bad Bunny? Don't watch him.
Simple as that.
It was not a thing that was important enough to even think about until the leaders of one side of our political spectrum decided to turn it into yet another personal/cultural grievance.
End rant. Punish me if you want, mods, but I've had it.
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Going to streaming = pretty much inevitable. Putting games on like 6+ different streaming services to watch NFL games, though? That's what I'm criticizing in particular and that's what you need if you don't have your corded TV. The most underrated appeal NFL games have is that their games each feel like events. People plan the entire day around sitting down and watching the NFL on Sundays (plus the other games they host on different days).bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 6:05 pmYou've got it backwards. The Network TV audience is old and downscale, The streaming audience is younger, bigger, and allows for curated marketing & advertising.
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The NFL trying to diversify its broadcasts is their attempt to follow and grow their audience. Network TV is dying, simply because its audience is getting older and older on average and dying off.
At a certain point when you paywall all of your products on all those services you are going to reduce the eyeballs overall. And that will erode the massive broad appeal the NFL currently enjoys.
The only thing I did miss is that the NFL is actually kind of popular in Mexico itself. Though given the situation on the border and how many people "travel" between I guess that shouldn't be so surprising. Yet the overall point I made stands. The majority of the international audience isn't coming from Mexico and is surpassed by the English speaking countries (Canada, Europe). Given the populations of the two countries, NFL football is *far* more popular in Canada than Mexico but I don't see any attempt to appeal and grow that market. Strange how that works. Nearly half of Canada apparently tunes in to the Super Bowl already.Did you miss the NFL scheduling games in Mexico & Brazil? Missed their spanish-language broadcasts, spanish-language sports talk, and ESPN Desportes?
The NFL and the Super Bowl remain a predominantly American phenomenon and costing yourself significant support in the home country to maybe appeal to a secondary market isn't what I'd consider a good business decision. Though given the level of strategery we've seen from corporate America of late, I guess it's par the course.
I didn't watch Bad Bunny. Or the game itself for that matter. I couldn't have cared less about this game to be honest Bad Bunny or no Bad Bunny.jeemie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 6:25 pmMini-political rant- sorry mods, but I've had enough of this "oh woe is me" crap from the people who support a party that has pretty much all the political power in the country at the moment. Even when they win, that's not enough for them to stop feeling victimized.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 11:16 pmThere's a lot of bullshit being spread on social media about the supposed ratings for the halftime show and the "alternative" hosted by Kid Rock. Online viewership totals from all platforms are estimated at around 25 million. Youtube alone was 5-6 million at its peak.Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑Mon Feb 09, 2026 10:40 pmI'm confused. Apparently the lyrics are about Puerto Rico leaving the US but also about stopping ICE to keep people in the US.
Make up your mind already.
In the end, this was Roger Goodell's epic fail at reading the zeitgeist and trying to be a cool dad.
If the NFL really wanted to get eyeballs from Europe, they'd book Dua Lipa or Rita Ora or someone like that.
Or even Steve Aoki.
Think about that. The ratings for that were never going to be what the Super Bowl's will end up being, but that's a whole lot of people who were alienated enough to watch that shit mostly out of spite.
We don't have the actual numbers or even estimates for the halftime show yet and won't have anything really until tomorrow. But social media is filled with lies and propaganda on the subject.
But try as they might, the Super Bowl remains an American event. Over 2-3x as many people watch the game in America than globally. They picked a performer who was GUARANTEED to piss off roughly half the country on principle.
How do you pass that off as a "good" business decision? I just don't see it. Old white dudes griping about the half time show is one thing. Pissing them off by politicizing it (and I'm real tired of the left leaning douches saying there was nothing political about it - not aimed at people here on this site really) was just beyond stupid to me.
Some decentportion of the audience paid less attention and/or turned off the game to watch an alternative event that still had a bunch of music they probably don't care for just to say fuck you to the NFL.
No- the NFL picked a performer that has a global audience second only to that of Taylor Swift.
And half of Trump's supporters had never heard of Bad Bunny until the President told them to be angry that he was selected, so just stop it.
Not everything that is done in the world is done with the expressed point of pissing MAGAs off.
And stop letting political talking heads convince you that they are done for that purpose.
Don't like Bad Bunny? Don't watch him.
Simple as that.
It was not a thing that was important enough to even think about until the leaders of one side of our political spectrum decided to turn it into yet another personal/cultural grievance.
End rant. Punish me if you want, mods, but I've had it.
I do in fact find the uproar over the halftime show in most years to be over the top because it has never really appealed to me and I readily admit that they aren't even trying to. Doesn't bother me on a personal level. But this selection clearly *did* bother a significant portion of the audience and a large chunk of it in the largest market tuned out.
More people watched the Kid Rock halftime show than all of the people who watched the Super Bowl in Mexico. Tell me more about how brilliant of a business decision this was.
And the final point - you can blame Trump for supposedly politicizing an obviously political decision if you choose.
Completely predictable consequences are in no way shape or form "unintended." They picked a performer who had waded into politics before Trump said anything about him. They picked a performer who performs mostly in Spanish and who was going to sing in Spanish at a time when the most hot button political issue was immigration from Spanish speaking countries.
I don't care how you feel about those issues. They are very real controversies in America that have divided people for a long time now and when you pick a guy who not only had been speaking on them but was fully intending to continue to do so with the platform you were giving him you do not get to sit here and blame the either side alone for politicizing that decision. Even if it wasn't a factor in their picking him, the best you could say was that it was incredibly naive.
So let's repeat - you can't claim that entirely predictable and foreseen consequences of your decision are unintended. Especially when you are a corporate executive. It's the height of naivety to try and argue that the NFL didn't realize they were going to receive a lot of backlash when they picked or allowed Bad Bunny to be picked to perform at the Super Bowl.
Frankly, not all viewership is equal. If I can get someone with 100K of disposal income watching v someone with 10K of disposal income, the first person is more valuable than the latter person all other things equal. Mexico is a middle income country. A single viewer from Mexico is probably less valuable than a single viewer from Canada.CKSteeler wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 7:08 pmGoing to streaming = pretty much inevitable. Putting games on like 6+ different streaming services to watch NFL games, though? That's what I'm criticizing in particular and that's what you need if you don't have your corded TV. The most underrated appeal NFL games have is that their games each feel like events. People plan the entire day around sitting down and watching the NFL on Sundays (plus the other games they host on different days).bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Tue Feb 10, 2026 6:05 pmYou've got it backwards. The Network TV audience is old and downscale, The streaming audience is younger, bigger, and allows for curated marketing & advertising.
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The NFL trying to diversify its broadcasts is their attempt to follow and grow their audience. Network TV is dying, simply because its audience is getting older and older on average and dying off.
At a certain point when you paywall all of your products on all those services you are going to reduce the eyeballs overall. And that will erode the massive broad appeal the NFL currently enjoys.
The only thing I did miss is that the NFL is actually kind of popular in Mexico itself. Though given the situation on the border and how many people "travel" between I guess that shouldn't be so surprising. Yet the overall point I made stands. The majority of the international audience isn't coming from Mexico and is surpassed by the English speaking countries (Canada, Europe). Given the populations of the two countries, NFL football is *far* more popular in Canada than Mexico but I don't see any attempt to appeal and grow that market. Strange how that works. Nearly half of Canada apparently tunes in to the Super Bowl already.Did you miss the NFL scheduling games in Mexico & Brazil? Missed their spanish-language broadcasts, spanish-language sports talk, and ESPN Desportes?
The NFL and the Super Bowl remain a predominantly American phenomenon and costing yourself significant support in the home country to maybe appeal to a secondary market isn't what I'd consider a good business decision. Though given the level of strategery we've seen from corporate America of late, I guess it's par the course.
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It's always smelt it/dealt it with the usual brainwashed poasters.
Step 1: It's not really happening (Bad Bunny wasn't a political stunt)
Step 2: Yeah, it's happening, but it's not a big deal (look at TPUSA silly boys creating an alternative)
Step 3: It's a good thing, actually ("he killed")
Step 4: People freaking out about it are the real problem (yeah, you should just turn off the TV, even asking for real noncontroversial entertainment is racist or something and shows you are not one of the enlightened like us)
Sick of this bullshit "my shithole is better than fascist America but we demand to come there, impose new rules and never go back"
Step 1: It's not really happening (Bad Bunny wasn't a political stunt)
Step 2: Yeah, it's happening, but it's not a big deal (look at TPUSA silly boys creating an alternative)
Step 3: It's a good thing, actually ("he killed")
Step 4: People freaking out about it are the real problem (yeah, you should just turn off the TV, even asking for real noncontroversial entertainment is racist or something and shows you are not one of the enlightened like us)
Sick of this bullshit "my shithole is better than fascist America but we demand to come there, impose new rules and never go back"
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.
Nietzsche
Nietzsche
If this gets broken down to a very simple level can we ummmm have a SB performer perform their show in English?
Do we get a Somali superstar next year doin their thang in native tongue?
Do we get a Somali superstar next year doin their thang in native tongue?
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It would make sense to perform in Spanish if the Super Bowl was being played somewhere like Spain or Mexico.
Halftime is when I step outside and smoke a doobie.
If the NFL wants my eyes glued to the screen then they should schedule a wardrobe malfunction with some hot babes.
A good alternative broadcast could have a good old fashioned wet T-Shirt competition or naked mud wrestling.
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Bad bunny lyrics translated from superbowl.
Bad bunny lyrics translated from superbowl.
[Verse 4: Bad Bunny]
My dick is being chased and I want you to hide it
Grab it like a bonga
She took a pill that made her horny
She fucks in the Audi, not in the Honda, ayy (Tra)
If I give it to you, don't call me (Tra)
'Cause this is not to make you love me, ayy (Tra)
If your boyfriend doesn't eat your ass
He better fuck off
[Bridge: Bad Bunny]
Come down to my house, l'll lick it all up Mami, I'll lick it all up
Come down to my house, l'll wear you out, ayy
I'll wear you out
Come down to my house, I'll lick it all up (Papi, keep going!)
Mami, I'll lick it all up (Papi, keep going!)
Tell me, servant (Papi, keep going)
If you smoke weed (Papi, pa-papi)
]Verse 5: Jowell]
Jowell, baby, baby, baby, haha, hahahahaha!
The dealer is twerking (Hard!)
It seems like she fucks well while high
I want to take a selfie with that huge ass (Tra, tra; wow)
Erect, erect, I'm erect, and it shows (Woh, woh)
What are we gonna do with that huge ass? (What?)
In university they're all A, A, A (Tra)
But those tits are C
You are super horny (Woo), mami, I already know (Eh) I'm also horny (Tra), what are we gonna do? (You know, eh)
With that bum-bum, go crazy, bum-bum
Go crazy with that bum-bum, go crazy, bum-bum If you have that bum-bum, go crazy, bum-bum If you have that bum-bum, go crazy, buoh!
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Wow I bet the Catholic women in Latin America said, wow, now I have to watch the NFL after listening to that.
The idea that this is acceptable for a national broadcast in Spanish but not in English really shows how little lefties respect Hispanics.
I can compartmentalize. If it had been Lin Manuel Miranda putting on a show I would have been down even though I hate his politics.
To be fair I though the TPUSA lineup was a bit reactionary.
Back to the point, I don't know how the NFL can make Europe work. The whole realignment crisis in NCAAF was due to people not watching games due to time zone issues.
I can see Toronto, San Antonio/Austin, San Diego, Salt Lake for expansion, I can't see Europe or even Mexico City because of revenue issues.
The idea that this is acceptable for a national broadcast in Spanish but not in English really shows how little lefties respect Hispanics.
I can compartmentalize. If it had been Lin Manuel Miranda putting on a show I would have been down even though I hate his politics.
To be fair I though the TPUSA lineup was a bit reactionary.
Back to the point, I don't know how the NFL can make Europe work. The whole realignment crisis in NCAAF was due to people not watching games due to time zone issues.
I can see Toronto, San Antonio/Austin, San Diego, Salt Lake for expansion, I can't see Europe or even Mexico City because of revenue issues.
The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.
Nietzsche
Nietzsche
