Malik Willis

[swissvale72]

Still say it's Rodgers...he works with haaard, see what we got. Either. Haaard going into 27 or a draftee next year.

[Gonzo]

The more I listen to news and the Steelers speak
The more I think they intend to draft a qb in one of first 2-3 rounds
Allar may well be a late round possibility with a thought he needs a real coach to help him reach potential
I can’t believe - yet - they are dumb enough sign tua Murray or Willis for good money
Anyone wanting Willis needs to go watch his games when he was a titan
Rodger’s and cousins are just bullshit that has no real hope of any playoff making or victories
Big Mike was picked for offense and to develop a QB.
I am not advocating for Allar … he has been one of the biggest chokers I have ever seen … stroud-like
Just saying I smell a drafted qb coming
And I do see them bringing in a vet qb but as a back-up plan … and someone who is OK with that role

[955876]

Dunce Rooney will do whatever he thinks gets this team one game over .500

[Jobu]

Dunce Rooney will do whatever he thinks gets this team one game over .500

Aaron Rodgers

[.Kodiak]

Dunce Rooney will do whatever he thinks gets this team one game over .500

I hope that's in the rearview mirror at this point. PIT holds the record all to themselves at 22 straight non-losing seasons.

Not that it's an accomplishment worth ever speaking of again....

[955876]

Dunce Rooney will do whatever he thinks gets this team one game over .500

Aaron Rodgers

And by golly we will give AR as much time as he needs to make his decision.

It’s not like we have a football team to run or something

Dunce Rooney just wants comfort. Jibba Jabber was was his security blanket. Just so happy to have him.

The Buck Cluck hire was all bout comfort as well.

So is AR.

Anything to not have to make a real decision or stick his neck out.

He’s a feckless coward.

Sell the team or hand the reigns over to a Rooney that isn’t a pussy.

[bradshaw2ben]

Maybe. They're not always that quick to admit mistakes. If they convince themselves that Willis still has potential despite having a crappy season, then I could see them choosing to not take a QB they'd otherwise take. After all, they tried to re-sign Fields. At least they weren't dumb enough to break the bank for him.

Maybe so, maybe not. So what? Rodgers does not solve the problem you're so worried about, so I don't know why you keep arguing for it. It's worse - Rodgers kicks the can down the road another year, for what?

If a top QB fell in their lap, they would still take him even if they think Willis had potential. Two potential franchise QBs is a nice problem to have.

You are wetting yourself that PIT is going to somehow miss out on the next Dan Marino because Malik fucking Willis has a good game. Willis isn't going to factor into that decision in any meaningful way.

Goodness people.... If Ben Roethlisberger is sitting there at #20, you take him EVEN IF you already have 2007 Ben on the roster. You take the future HOFer and then figure out what to do with your "problem" at QB.

Have you met the Steelers? Familiar with the way they do business?

[.Kodiak]

Have you met the Steelers? Familiar with the way they do business?

This is the same Roomey that told Cowher it was "time to win a SB"?

I think they fell in love with that NHALS record. That's behind us now. Yes, I'm familiar with how they do business and hope they are returning to that now that Tomlin is gone.

[Jobu]

This is the same Roomey that told Cowher it was "time to win a SB"?

I’ve asked this before…did this really happen, or is this just another media fueled, fanboy myth? Because it’s kind of a ridiculous notion.
Well the owner says we have to win the Super Bowl, so we’ll just go ahead and win the Super Bowl!

[Gonzo]

i thought it was Dan that did that ?

[Dan Smith--BYU]

I know, right? As if Dan Rooney had spent 1980-2005 telling coaches not to win one for the thumb and don't worry be happy.

[Gonzo]

The Steelers have not won a playoff game under art II sole watch as head owner … right ?

[955876]

i thought it was Dan that did that ?

Pretty sure (almost positive) it was Art that said that after 2004 season. At the time it was considered a shot across Cowher’s bow.

I recall him being praised for it at the time.

That was before he got lazy and content with the diversity hire and being 1 game above .500

[Deebo]

Have you met the Steelers? Familiar with the way they do business?

This is the same Roomey that told Cowher it was "time to win a SB"?

I think they fell in love with that NHALS record. That's behind us now. Yes, I'm familiar with how they do business and hope they are returning to that now that Tomlin is gone.

I'm not so sure.

I'm starting to think that NHALS was Art's goal and Tomlin was just the guy to execute that to a T. This was a perfect co-dependent relationship: Art gets to rake in his millions with the stadium full and say "they're always competitive" while Tomlin gets his job security and his millions to be risk averse.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Yeah Art is like an investor in government bonds for the last thirty years who won't change his mind when you point out that those who took risks in stocks and gold greatly outperformed his lazyass strategy that actually lost to real inflation.

[lifelongsteel]

We can all agree that there are no great options. The best option depends on how much pain you are willing to endure and how much humor you can find in Steeler folly

Rodgers if you want to compete this year
Willis or Murray if you want to compete this year, but are also ok with tanking, bad attitudes and spending some cap
Howard if you are hoping to tank and get a top 10 pick in '27

[Gonzo]

that is part of the disconnect
rodgers does not = competing this year

[lifelongsteel]

that is part of the disconnect
rodgers does not = competing this year

Got it - easy word to interpret differently. This is how I look at it:

Win ranges with different QBs in 2026
Rodgers: 8-11
Murray: 7-12
Willis: 6-10
Howard: 5-9

Odds of playoff victory in 2026:
Rodgers: 15%
Murray: 15%
Willis: 7%
Howard: 2%

Odds of winning the SB in 2026
Rodgers: 2%
Murray: 2%
Willis: 1%
Howard: .0005%

Odds of being long term high end starter past 2026
Rodgers: 0
Murray: 30%
Willis: 15%
Howard: 5%

I don't think Murray is even a consideration. He is the closest to Darnold available in this cycle, and he's quite a bit more successful now than Darnold had been prior to Minn.

[Jobu]

This is where I’m choosing to point out that most here (justifiably) hated the Steelers acquiring Justin Fields because he was a running QB that can’t throw, but want the Steelers to sign/trade/draft all these running QBs that can’t throw. (Willis, Murray, Green…)

[Stlcrtn1974]

This is where I’m choosing to point out that most here (justifiably) hated the Steelers acquiring Justin Fields because he was a running QB that can’t throw, but want the Steelers to sign/trade/draft all these running QBs that can’t throw. (Willis, Murray, Green…)

I don't get it either

[lifelongsteel]

This is where I’m choosing to point out that most here (justifiably) hated the Steelers acquiring Justin Fields because he was a running QB that can’t throw, but want the Steelers to sign/trade/draft all these running QBs that can’t throw. (Willis, Murray, Green…)

Willis might be able to throw. Murray can throw. Fields can't throw - but probably worth a bet a few years back.

Outside of the top 15-20 guys, your options generally come down to a) tools guys with little feel for the game who can't read defenses (likely where Willis is) or b) poor tools guys who do have a feel for the game and can read defenses (likely where Howard is) or c) both. This is called the Mason Rudolph zone.

RN i'd a) sign Rodgers b) Make Howard the clear #2 and give him a ton of preseason snaps c) draft a toolsy former high end prospect in R4 or so (Allar, Nuss) and d) draft a R1 guy in 2027 if options b/c don't show promise.

[jebrick]

Arizona is going to go after Willis in a big way. I would not want to pay him more than backup money but I'm sure the Cards will throw some stupid money at him. Good for Willis.